Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on July 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

[T]oo often over the past five years, the President has circumvented the American people and their elected representatives through executive action, changing and creating his own laws, and excusing himself from enforcing statutes he is sworn to uphold — at times even boasting about his willingness to do it, as if daring the American people to stop him.

That’s why, later this month, we will bring legislation to the House floor that would authorize the House of Representatives to file suit in an effort to compel President Obama to follow his oath of office and faithfully execute the laws of our country

[T]he President’s habit of ignoring the law as written hurts our economy and jobs even more. Washington taxes and regulations always make it harder for private sector employers to meet payrolls, invest in new initiatives and create jobs — but how can those employers plan, invest and grow when the laws are changing on the President’s whim at any moment?…

There must be accountability.

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Jonathan Turley, a professor of law at The George Washington University Law School, said Republicans could find the best chance to have their case heard if it targets the Affordable Care Act, particularly because language negotiated by Congress has being changed by the administration, opening up a balance of powers question…

“If the lawsuit comes out as a peddler’s wagon with every possible grievance against the president, it will have a poor chance of success,” he said. “The more issues that are piled into these lawsuits the more it looks like a political question.”

Boehner mentioned the House’s prior attempts to check Obama’s power, but complained in his CNN op-ed that the Senate has yet to act. That kind of an argument is not likely to convince a court to give a case standing, said Greg Magarian, professor of law at Washington University of St. Louis.

The irony, then, could be that the very dysfunction Obama uses to justify skirting Congress would be the case’s undoing; the courts could hold that Congress is simply too dysfunctional to defend itself against a powerful executive.

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John Boehner would never cop to it, but his pending lawsuit against President Obama will be the final word on whether the GOP is the party of maximum deportations, including of immigrants eligible for the Obama administration’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals directive—the group of upstanding undocumented immigrants who were brought to this country when they were children known as “Dreamers.”

Boehner will either include the DACA program among his list of the president’s supposedly illegal executive actions, and thus cement his party’s standing as one that represents the reactionary anti-immigrant minority in the country; or he’ll leave DACA out, giving tacit consent to the program and infuriating the anti-immigrant faction of his own conference…

Immigration enforcement is the biggest outstanding issue, and the one that most animates the GOP base. Last year, House Republicans passed a bill that would defund DACA. Leaving it out of the lawsuit would run at odds with all of the GOP’s past actions. But including it—suing the president to deport Dreamers—would doom the party’s already floundering efforts to rehabilitate its standing in immigrant communities.

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While the legal case for suing Obama over DACA may be strong, I highly doubt someone as sympathetic to immigration reform as Boehner would choose that issue to sue Obama over. Instead I’d bet on two other possibilities.

1) Obama’s No Child Left Behind rewrite. Covered in more detail here, Obama essentially rewrote President Bush’s NCLB law in 2011 to match his own Race to the Top education policies whose own legal authority had expired with the end of the stimulus program. Obama is currently using his rewritten version of NCLB to force Common Core curriculum on schools nationwide. Given the bipartisan opposition to elements of Race to the Top and Common Core, this would be a definite possibility.

2) The Obamacare employer mandate delay. Also covered in more detail here, Obama’s decision not to enforce the job killing employer mandate to buy health insurance is exactly the kind of “benevolent suspension” of the law this novel theory of congressional standing was designed to counteract. This issue would rile up the Republican base and put an almost universally despised policy on trial.

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But what few point out is that in an attempt to marginalize Congressional Republicans with whom he disagrees, he’s simultaneously managed to marginalize Congressional Democrats as well.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein and other Democrats have complained about a variety of presidential runs around Congress – including military intervention in Libya, withholding details of the NSA spying program and an unaccountable drone program, making the Gitmo prisoner exchange for Bowe Bergdahl without informing them, etc.

While going it alone on these things prevented Republicans from challenging the President, it also left Democrats holding a pretty odious bag, which then had to be explained to alarmed constituents back home.

Republicans can perhaps understand why the President has locked them out. But Democrats – many of whom have doggedly defended the President’s controversial and in some cases failed agenda for years – should be equally as offended.

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227 years ago, when the founders of the nation set about drafting the constitution, they gave the House of Representatives the exclusive power to initiate revenue bills and impeach the Executive. That the House would sue the President over his use of executive power is an indication that its leadership no more values their own powers under constitution than the President they sue…

I realize John Boehner and the House Republicans may lack the testicular fortitude to fight President Obama, but I would kindly ask that he save the taxpayers further money on a political stunt solely designed to incite Republican voters who might otherwise stay home given the establishment’s bungling of Mississippi and abandonment of their constitutionally derived powers.

John Boehner’s lawsuit is nothing more than political theater and a further Republican waste of taxpayer dollars. If the Republican leaders in the House are too chicken to use their constitutional powers to rein in the President, they should just call it a day and go home.

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Think about this for just a second: House Republicans are using taxpayer dollars to fund a lawsuit against a President who has literally done not only what every president before him has done but has done it less often and is doing so now only because House Republicans repeatedly refuse to even vote on legislation, let alone pass anything.

And you have the gall to accuse the President of being the one in violation of the Constitution?…

Some 57% of Americans supported his administrative relief for young undocumented immigrants brought to the United States when they were children. And according to a poll conducted by the LGBT advocacy group the Human Rights Campaign, 73% of Americans support an executive order to ban discrimination by federal contractors on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity.

If House Republicans don’t like these executive orders, then pass immigration reform and the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. Don’t sue the President. Passing laws that our nation wants and needs is doing your job. Suing the President just because you don’t like him is irresponsible partisan petulance.

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Daring the American people to stop him? We had that chance twice – as recently as 2012. Obama won the popular vote then by 5 million voters and the electoral college vote by 126. Was the problem paramount in the public’s collective mind to be solved by the election an administration on the loose or a society desperately seeking one person who would do something about the problems that beset them? Problems which, by the way, most fair minded folks would agree did not derive with the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

It’s a time-tested feature of the American Presidency that holders of the office are judged by what they do for people and not how they do it. Lincoln is remembered in the consciousness of the public for ending the Civil War not suspending habeas corpus. FDR is lionized for the New Deal and his leadership against fascism not the court-packing plan. And even ol’ unpopular ‘W” himself has received a popularity renaissance of sorts for his efforts to combat terrorism with hardly a mention of the dubious methods he employed. Why would the public in the last two elections be looking for anything different? Give us someone who can bring about positive change in Washington and the society it oversees was the order from the populace…

So Obama acts alone. Constitutional? We’ll see, but, the structural problem remains. Can the voters fix it? Maybe, they did in 1948, but the country was less polarized along ideological lines. A recipe for disaster? Probably and one not likely to be fixed no matter how the conservative dominated Supreme Court rules. And action to address the nation’s woes? Well, that seems to be neither the concern of the court, nor the Congress, and, for well-articulated doctrinal reasons, perhaps not even the President’s. So who is charged with performing the duties of the Constitution? Perhaps it’s just us.

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Any Republican attempt at impeachment would go up against a stacked deck. And the GOP would be throwing away a winning hand for a losing one.

For while the American people have shown no interest in impeaching Obama, they are coming to believe they elected an incompetent executive and compulsive speechmaker who does not know what the presidency requires and who equates talk with action.

With the economy shrinking 3 percent in the first quarter, with Obama sinking in public approval, and with the IRS, NSA and VA scandals bubbling, why would Republicans change the subject to impeachment?

The effect would be to enrage and energize the Democratic base, bring out the African-American vote in force and cause the major media to charge the GOP with a racist scheme to discredit and destroy our first black president.

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Presidential regimes invite executive dominance by combining the roles of “head of state” and “head of government” in one figure. “As heads of government,” Buckley writes, “presidents are the most powerful officials in their countries. As heads of state, they are also their countries’ ceremonial leaders,” and claim “the loyalty and respect of all patriots.” Where parliamentary systems cleave off power from ceremony, presidential ones make the chief executive the living symbol of nationhood: the focal point of national hopes, dreams, fears—and occasionally fantasies…

The PM’s Question Time is but one facet of the superior executive accountability offered by parliamentary systems, Buckley argues. Such systems, he maintains, also do a better of restraining executives’ proclivity for launching wars…

Finally, parliamentary systems do better on the ultimate question of accountability: They make it easier to “throw the bum out” if all else fails. “Prime ministers may be turfed out at any time by a majority in the House of Commons”; they can also be replaced by their party without bringing down the government. Presidents serve for fixed terms, and since we’ve never, in 225 years, successfully used the impeachment process to remove one, anyone who’s not demonstrably crazy or catatonic gets to ride out his term. We’re stuck with the guy, thanks to our peculiar system of separated powers.

That system isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. It’s not even what the Framers wanted, Buckley argues. Madison’s Virginia Plan featured an executive chosen by the legislature. The Framers repeatedly rejected the idea of a president elected by the people—that option failed in four separate votes in Philadelphia.

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The political slogan of “no compromise” has migrated into legal strategy with disastrous results. That is precisely what happened in the recess appointments decision in NLRB vs. Canning. I testified on the President’s recess appointments in Congress after they were made and said that the nominations in my view were flagrantly unconstitutional.

The fact that the administration decided to force a confrontation on such a weak case shows not just a lack of judgment but a cavalier attitude towards the costs of such losses. While he clearly has authority to set enforcement priorities in areas like immigration law, Obama has repeatedly stepped well over the line of separation…

While Obama did not create the uber-presidency, he has pushed it to a new level of autonomy and authority. It is a model that Democrats may soon regret. Just as Obama has unilaterally rewritten federal laws and ordered the nonenforcement of others, the next President could use the same authority to gut environmental or employment discrimination laws. An uber-President is only liberating when he is your uber-President.

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Via Reason TV.


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I wish we’d just elected Valerie President. Then we wouldn’t need to elect Hillary to get a woman.

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 6:29 AM

Love the deluxe! And the greasy fries. Did they check your 20.00 bill to see if it was counterfeit?

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 6:25 AM

Fortunately not ;)

DarkCurrent on July 8, 2014 at 6:29 AM

They always check mine. They hold it up to the light. Maybe they don’t do it anymore now that they’re paid 15.00 an hour.

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 6:31 AM

Kcewa :)

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 6:36 AM

They always check mine. They hold it up to the light. Maybe they don’t do it anymore now that they’re paid 15.00 an hour.

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 6:31 AM

They always do that with 50 and 100 RMB notes everywhere in China. A couple of weeks ago I was caught trying to (unwittingly, I swear) pass a fake 20 RMB note at the grocery store.

DarkCurrent on July 8, 2014 at 6:38 AM

Then we wouldn’t need to elect Hillary to get a woman.

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 6:29 AM

Hey! Bill Clinton had no problems getting women.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 6:58 AM

F&F reports that Valerie HAS invited Rick Perry to a ‘substantive meeting’ including faith leaders, in Dallas, on Weds.

pambi on July 8, 2014 at 7:07 AM

pambi on July 8, 2014 at 7:07 AM

just heard that too….so the lsm will bash Perry if he doesn’t attend that, natch….

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 7:16 AM

F&F reports that Valerie HAS invited Rick Perry to a ‘substantive meeting’ including faith leaders, in Dallas, on Weds.

pambi on July 8, 2014 at 7:07 AM

Perry should tell the evil whore to pack sand. Faith leaders implies that this is an issue which calls for letting these parasites into the nation instead of loading up busses and sending them back to Mexico (yes I know they are not all Mexican but they got through that nation without documentation somehow).

Obama should visit the border and take responsibilty for what his policies have done. After all, this crisis was deliberately planned.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 7:18 AM

just heard that too….so the lsm will bash Perry if he doesn’t attend that, natch….

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 7:16 AM

Nonsense. Perry should send a “top deputy” to attend the meeting. Why should the Chief Executive of Texas attend if the filthy stupid rat-eared bastard isn’t even concerned enough to go to the border that is a mere 200 miles away from where he is whoring for the DNC?

And BTW, Congress should refuse to give him the money he is demanding to tend to these parasites until he comes up with a “substantive plan” to seal the southern border.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 7:20 AM

Preezy can’t handle a one-on-one with an actual leader.
Hasta stack the room in his favor.
What an a$$.
Would love for Rick to answer with something along the lines of ‘alone, or nothing’, but of course then HE’s the obstructionist.
Don’t you think Rick’s ALREADY met with these faith leaders and elected officials ??
Argh.

pambi on July 8, 2014 at 7:26 AM

That system isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. It’s not even what the Framers wanted, Buckley argues. Madison’s Virginia Plan featured an executive chosen by the legislature. The Framers repeatedly rejected the idea of a president elected by the people—that option failed in four separate votes in Philadelphia.

But it WAS a feature of the system they lived under: the Articles of Confederation.

That was a system that was falling apart and giving a rise not just to the Shaysites but to other problems within States where a group of landed wealthy controlled State legislatures and imposed their will on the under-represented poor. Shaysites were not just about Shays or the rebellion that was localized, at this had been flaring up over the years since 1783 and was threatening to collapse the entire Nation.

A strong national legislature with the power to tax was seen as having tremendous power which would need to be limited and put into check, and you cannot expect a President elected by Congress to be an effective check on the powers of those who put him INTO office. And any system that just put in State representatives on the basis of allowing those with power and influence to get their representatives elected would tend to favor the exact, same set of laws and problems that came with them, that led to the Shaysite problem. No President as executive put in by a Congress could do that.

Yet placing so much power in an Executive was also a troubling problem and the antidote to it was checks and balances, plus elections. In our modern times BOTH of those remedies have FAILED due to a political class that would prefer to be a form of landed aristocracy rather than representatives of the States and the people. With a political class that votes its own laws into place and then secures the legislative from actually having to abide by those laws, the basis for the rule of law is fractured at its basis and no parliamentary system would have stopped THAT especially when it involves crony kick-backs and swaying voters with self-voted pork doled out by the government to favorites in districts and States. A President has his hands tied by a corrupt legislative branch against such items unless he vetoes such legislation and is willing to stand up to the wrath of voters and the ire of Congress. That has not happened in modern times.

Now that a President is utilizing funds put in by Congress to go to his own cronies and to his own agenda, the way to stop that is to STOP FUNDING THEM. That is the sole power of the House and it can achieve that either via legislation or by yanking the contract spending by agencies until they comply with the letter of the law and run contracts on a free and open basis for the best value to the government and NOT to reward some and punish others. Yet the US House does NEITHER of those things under Democrats or Republicans, and must be seen as complicit in such cronyism, kick-backs and the slow corrosion of their power because they simply refuse to EXERCISE IT.

A remedy faithful to the Constitution would see a House acting to protect the taxpayer’s wealth that has been transferred for presumably legitimate ends… but that would also mean cutting off THEIR OWN cronies that benefit from their spending. What you want is an anti-corruption led House willing to suffer the losses of their own cronies to cut off the Executive’s rewards system and cronies so that the federal government is forced to actually DO THE WORK that Congress has handed them to do. Going hand-in-hand with that is some form of civil service reform that would see federal employees as temporary workers and have them adhere to a short term as employees followed by an ‘Up or Out’ rule after some initial service period so that they show their value to the government or find themselves put out to pasture when they can’t achieve the next level of work inside the government. This would also cap the amount of time anyone could ever spend as a government employee as well as make them fireable.

I don’t see the House cutting off cronies. Which means they won’t exercise their own power to cut graft and corruption because they are complicit in it. Nor do I expect to see civil service reform and the putting into place of statutes to limit time in service to government employees nor put a lifetime service cap for government service which would include time in the President’s cabinet or as an advisor to the President, all the way through all of the Presidential and Congressional staff. Because that would require an anti-corruption and anti-incumbent mood in the electorate which is being whipped into submission by a Congress that feels it should be exempted from its own laws and a President who is unwilling to execute the laws he is given and wants to be a tyrant in his own right with the active collusion of members of Congress who support the corrupt system that is in place and neuters them when they try and stop the corruption as it would also end their own landed positions of power.

If you want a change to government then the American People need to be a better people. And ‘throwing the bums out’ means a lot more than just Congress or just the President, but also all the cronies that have wormed their way into the system so that there is a revolving door between government employment, lobbyists and advisers in service to companies growing fat off the public trough. Only a good people can walk away from a corrupt government or force it out lock, stock and two smoking barrels. And once you get to the two smoking barrels, you aren’t talking about a civil means any more as those in power will fight to stop any movement away from the corrupt system they created, live by and adore at public expense.

Many of the Anti-Federalists were worried about just this and proposed means to ENHANCE the federal system so that the corruption would have to take longer and be much more obvious to all involved. Sadly those at the Convention decided that selling their plan was far more important than addressing the problems being brought up by its critics. They did a great job of salesmanship and no one, today, takes the Anti-Federalists worries seriously because they haven’t READ THEM. And that is our own damned fault for believing the Framers to be Saints and not just men.

ajacksonian on July 8, 2014 at 7:29 AM

The good guys like Perry need to stop deciding what to do by what anyone thinks of them.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 7:31 AM

Good Morning, Patriots, Sockpuppets, and Trolls!

Indecision may or may not be my problem.

- Jimmy Buffett

My take: The Illegal Alien Invasion and The Consequences of Voting “Present”

kingsjester on July 8, 2014 at 7:32 AM

** NUTS **!!

Retweeted by Jordan Fabian
Dan Nowicki @dannowicki · 16h

9th US Circuit Court of Appeals blocks @GovBrewer’s denial of driver licenses to #DACA migrants: http://bit.ly/1oBR5AI (via @yvonnewingett)

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/2014/07/07/arizonas-denial-drivers-licenses-immigrants-appeals-court-rules-state/12291683/

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 7:36 AM

** Immigration **

Le Map:

Retweeted by Jordan Fabian
PewResearch FactTank @FactTank · Jul 2

Many child migrants detained at the US border are from violent & poor areas in Central America http://pewrsr.ch/1mGedd1

https://twitter.com/FactTank/status/484346823134674945/photo/1

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 7:39 AM

My take: The Illegal Alien Invasion and The Consequences of Voting “Present”

kingsjester on July 8, 2014 at 7:32 AM

I think we need to stress the fact that these parasites are illegal aliens. It is a legal status (compare to resident aliens). The left tries very hard to paint them as undocumented migrants but that implies that somebody invited or welcomed them to come into this country.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 7:40 AM

Many child migrants detained at the US border are from violent & poor areas in Central America http://pewrsr.ch/1mGedd1

https://twitter.com/FactTank/status/484346823134674945/photo/1

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 7:39 AM

As I posted above, these are not migrants. They are illegal aliens. It is a legal status. That being said, I’m sure something could be done if Canada wants to welcome these migrants.

And BTW, that these parasites come from violent and poor nations really isn’t an issue here. There are lots of human beings in this world living in violent and poor nations. Why should these parasites be treated differently than those living in refugee camps in Sudan, for example.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 7:43 AM

that implies that somebody invited or welcomed them to come into this country.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 7:40 AM

Somebody did.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 7:44 AM

And BTW, Congress should refuse to give him the money he is demanding to tend to these parasites until he comes up with a “substantive plan” to seal the southern border.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 7:20 AM

yepper

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 7:44 AM

Results for #executiveoverreach

https://twitter.com/hashtag/executiveoverreach?src=hash

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 7:51 AM

Somebody did.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 7:44 AM

Then send all the bills to Obama. The American people don’t want these disease-ridden parasites, the Democrats do.

On July 4th, the lazy stupid bastard talked about the need for amnesty to attract the brightest and best to this nation. I would argue that some HIV positive illiterate teen from El Salvador does not fall into that catagory.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 7:52 AM

And BTW, do you think assimilating all these parasites will help or hurt employment among blacks and Hispanics here legally?

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 7:54 AM

Storms moving in. Supposed to be gone by noon.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 7:54 AM

F&F reports that Valerie HAS invited Rick Perry to a ‘substantive meeting’ including faith leaders, in Dallas, on Weds.

pambi on July 8, 2014 at 7:07 AM

If I were Perry – I would say move the meeting down to the border and let the cameras in so the American people can see and then I’ll attend.

Perry has hit every note perfectly on this so far IMO. Hope that continues.

gophergirl on July 8, 2014 at 7:55 AM

Perry has hit every note perfectly on this so far IMO. Hope that continues.

gophergirl on July 8, 2014 at 7:55 AM

I agree though I do think that Perry could do one thing more….. name the northbound stretch of I-10 around El Paso the Barak Hussein Obama expressway.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 8:01 AM

Storms moving in. Supposed to be gone by noon.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 7:54 AM

I hope you mean the storms and not you! ;0

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 8:01 AM

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 7:39 AM

As I posted above, these are not migrants. They are illegal aliens. It is a legal status. That being said, I’m sure something could be done if Canada wants to welcome these migrants.

And BTW, that these parasites come from violent and poor nations really isn’t an issue here. There are lots of human beings in this world living in violent and poor nations. Why should these parasites be treated differently than those living in refugee camps in Sudan, for example.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 7:43 AM

Happy Nomad:—–:0

Good Morning, I do hope that Canada, turns away, every single one.

While from some,…(Lefties), its an emotional bullsh*t story!

Either enter Legally,..or Boink Off!!

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 8:04 AM

Oh,…Btw,

Good Morning EveryOne———–:)

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 8:06 AM

that implies that somebody invited or welcomed them to come into this country.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 7:40 AM

Somebody did.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 7:44 AM

Yep. Our business and political leaders.

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 8:22 AM

Well one thing is a sure bet…”SARC”.

Not one Mexican illegal will join in at the wide open border and claim they are Juan from El Salvador and claim they were in fear and had to leave and jump the border and never appear at the ICE hearing.

ps

Rick Perry is not up to his job, he got elected by “I’ll do something about the border”, then a week after elected,,

“It is crazy to think the border can be secured”, and you know those people just come to do the work Texans will not do.”

clown and a long time Democrat…..prior,,,,

Goat farmer and a fake to boot.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 8, 2014 at 8:34 AM

Why not impeach Dem Obama’s appointees? Sooner or later one of them will sing. Start w/ IRS, then Justice, then INS, then EPA, – just start filing impeachment proceedings.

This democrat behavior must be stopped – I am always hopeful but suing the president is not the way to go – it’s a cover for something. Just impeach appointees. See what happens. Guaranteed, someone will finally talk.

MN J on July 8, 2014 at 9:56 AM

Defund.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Tornado sirens were going off here. Unfortunately it was after the alert and it was only a watch not a warning.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 11:29 AM

I’m watching America Unearthed. This episode is about whether or not polynesians made it to the New World. These 2 kids in Hawaii had an obsidian spear point they picked up in a park. The park service invited them to come in and show their evidence and when they found out the kids had the point with them they showed them a badge and threatened to arrest them if they didn’t turn it over. Not only that they said these kids and anybody with them are not allowed in the park. So these people were storm troopers even before recently.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 11:36 AM

remember when Barry wanted only 2 billion dollars
to cover the costs of his southern invasion….

well today the cost has gone up…
the WH now wants 3.7 BILLION….

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 12:29 PM

lol!;)

thatsafactjack on July 8, 2014 at 2:37 AM

Script deviation :)

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Good night, indubitable one …

ShainS on July 8, 2014 at 1:01 AM

Best compliment possible. Thank you friend.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 12:36 PM

and

Cleveland will host the 2016 Republican National Convention

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 12:36 PM

and

Cleveland will host the 2016 Republican National Convention

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 12:36 PM

If Mitt runs, I’m out.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 12:37 PM

goodafternoon mr schad… hope your day is going well..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 12:38 PM

image of the day

http://www.space.com/34-image-day.html

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 12:40 PM

If Mitt runs, I’m out.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 12:37 PM

ask yourself this …
would we be where we are if Mitt had won…?

and if its Mitt or Cankles… it should be a no brainer..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 12:42 PM

what if its Mitt or Warren….

never say never…

and on Cleveland… it was that or Dallas…
the RNC needs Ohio… Texas (hopefully) will still be red in 2016

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM

If Mitt runs, I’m out.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 12:37 PM

two terms of Barry worked out so well for those who said that in the past..
and two terms of Warren should be great for the republic too…
or maybe you cant wait for the Clintons to return to the WH..

until YOUR name mr Schad appears on the ballot,
we are going to have to choose between lesser candidates..

its not that way because its good or I like it..
it is ..what it is..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

and on Cleveland… it was that or Dallas…
the RNC needs Ohio… Texas (hopefully) will still be red in 2016

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM

All the cities are blue. Unless they want to meet in the desert. There’s a thought. Palm Springs.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM

ask yourself this …
would we be where we are if Mitt had won…?

Romney and the Rinos don’t want the border secured either.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 1:16 PM

afternoon COL..

hope you enjoyed the rains… I did..

Romney never said he wanted open borders..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM

lets try it this way…

write down 20 political bullet points..
put them in order of importance to you…
your list will not match most Americans…
truth is, your list will probably only match 10-20% of the country exactly..
so you can cry and stomp your feet and wish for your list to be liked by everyone else..
but that ..isn’t reality…
if you can find a candidate that matches half your list of 20,
that is 10 topics Barry scored a ZERO on…
15 bullet points would be nice…
18 would be wonderful…
but unless your name is on that ballot…
your not getting 20…

I have said it before and i’ll say it again…
you (us,,,we) do not have the votes..

you can vote to turn the ship some in your direction
or watch it fall off the edge of the planet..

if you do not vote…you have no place to say ..I don’t like where the ship is heading..

this nation is not a toy boat in the bath tub
you can not just pick it up, out of the water, and turn it in a new direction..
courage and a steady hand will help guide the rudder..
we didn’t get into this mess in a day
and were not getting out of it in a day either..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM

goodafternoon mr schad… hope your day is going well..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Likewise for you, I hope.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 1:59 PM

ask yourself this …
would we be where we are if Mitt had won…?

and if its Mitt or Cankles… it should be a no brainer..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 12:42 PM

He and his stupid team fought us better than the Dummy who is Chief.

End of story.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Meh, go for another RINO/DIABLO and lose, again. Look at history in the last 40 years.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM

his “stupid team”, like much of America..
didn’t want to be called racist…

why isn’t Barry stopped on any of these issues now…
because its bad form to call out the 1st black president..

you still have not answered the question…
barry or mitt…..
which is better for the nation..
(not better for me or you…but the country)

if you are ok with barry…then your right it is the end of the story..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Meh, go for another RINO/DIABLO and lose, again. Look at history in the last 40 years.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Schad… I respect ya and all…but..
our side does not have the votes

how many Americans do you think would vote your way on 20 topics??
maybe 5 or 10%…?? maybe

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Romney never said he wanted open borders..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM

None of them ever say that in so many words but they imply it by their actions.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 2:20 PM

None of them ever say that in so many words but they imply it by their actions.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 2:20 PM

is there anyone in DC or politics that you believe would shut down that border??..
they believe, rightly or wrongly, that they will loose the Hispanic vote for ever…
RR gave millions amnesty.. and that didn’t get repubs the majority of the Hispanic vote..
and the border was not shut down…

I think its a winning bullet point (SHUT DOWN THE BORDER)…but who am I?

shipping those out who are here.. is problematic at best..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Meh, go for another RINO/DIABLO and lose, again. Look at history in the last 40 years.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 2:02 PM

we can not vote for you…as you are not on the ballot…

and if you were on the ticket…
do you really believe 20 bullet points from Schad is a winning ticket??
you think you have the votes to cover what you say?? honestly??

I am not asking what is right or wrong..
I am not saying anything you say or have said is wrong…
I would vote for you in a minute..
but my friend…
you would never win in America….sadly..
you do not have the votes (numbers)

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 2:33 PM

I can see you are done with me.. and my opinions..

>>>>back to the drawing board/work..cheers

have a nice afternoon…

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 2:56 PM

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Nobody’s done with you, G2M. ((((big hugs))))))

Some realities are harder to face than others….they’re heart-wrenchingly painful. Takes your breath away and you can’t seem to get it back kind of painful.

That’s not about you personally, you know.

Voting for moderates/Liberal-leaning Repubs has now moved into that definition of insanity for a lot of Conservatives. That’s reality, too.

lineholder on July 8, 2014 at 3:09 PM

KCB on July 7, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Hey, Ken. Sorry I missed you. Be around on the weekend. Hope to see ya’ then. Hope your trip is going well!

OmahaConservative on July 7, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Thank you, OC!

oscarwilde on July 7, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Heh! Thought you might like that one.

XXX and OOO so everyone! Looks like y’all flirted with fantasy most of the night! Serves as a great stress reliever, eh? Take care, y’all. Out for today.

lineholder on July 8, 2014 at 3:18 PM

I know G2 means well but we have gone beyond voting to get out of this and we have to stop being afraid that this or that group won’t like us and just do the right thing.

crankyoldlady on July 8, 2014 at 4:21 PM

you still have not answered the question…
barry or mitt…..
which is better for the nation..
(not better for me or you…but the country)

if you are ok with barry…then your right it is the end of the story..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 2:09 PM

I’m not in kindergarten.

I voted for Mitt, kicking and dragging.

There is NO more “Barry or Mitt” question.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 5:17 PM

his “stupid team”, like much of America..
didn’t want to be called racist…

why isn’t Barry stopped on any of these issues now…
because its bad form to call out the 1st black president..

Screw them then. They like him better than the well-being of the land.

you still have not answered the question…
barry or mitt…..

Water down the bridge and will never be again. I didn’t stay home.

which is better for the nation..
(not better for me or you…but the country)

Why do you ask me this when you know the answer.

if you are ok with barry…then your right it is the end of the story..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 2:09 PM

If you believe that I was ever ok with barry then I can’t do anything about it.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 5:20 PM

If you believe that I was ever ok with barry then I can’t do anything about it.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Whatever gave G2M that idea?

OmahaConservative on July 8, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Whatever gave G2M that idea?

OmahaConservative on July 8, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Good question. He also this

I can see you are done with me.. and my opinions..

going2mars on July 8, 2014 at 2:56 PM

and bizarrely accused me of “yelling” at him last week, too.

g2m, you jump to conclusions too quickly. I say this kindly: please relax!

non-nonpartisan on July 8, 2014 at 8:44 PM

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