Poll: Liberals out of step with America on race relations

posted at 5:21 pm on July 7, 2014 by Noah Rothman

To document all of the societal ills that MSNBC and its like-minded contributors have blamed on American racism is to commit to writing a doctoral thesis. That network and its viewership, suffice it to say, is consumed with the impact anti-minority bias has on the public discourse and on society as a whole.

Online and print publications, too, generate sorely needed readership by focusing on issues, both substantive and fleeting, relating to racial bias. According to a recent Pew Research Center poll, however, an audience’s dark fascination with racism is distinct from believing that it is the fundamental challenge of our time.

Pew, which recently performed a detailed study on how American politics has grown sharply more polarized in the last 10 years, also found that Democratic groups are sharply divided on the issue of race and how racism hampers personal development among minorities.

The survey discovered that 91 percent of “solid liberals” and 72 percent of “faith and family left,” or those with a mix of conservative and liberal views on social issues, agree that the country “needs to continue making changes to give blacks equal rights.” But only 56 percent of “hard-pressed skeptics,” Democrats critical of interventionist foreign policy and the solvency of the social safety net, agree. Those who make up what Pew defines as the “next generation left,” those who generally support government activism, foreign engagement, and the social safety net, disagree.

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Moreover, while there is broad agreement among all Democratic groups for the need for affirmative action programs, only the “solidly liberal” believe racial discrimination is the “main reason blacks can’t get ahead.”

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That is 49 points more supportive of this assertion than any other political group, placing “solid liberals” wildly out of step with the rest of the country on the issue of racial discrimination.

“[E]ven as 59% are left-of-center (with the remainder holding about an equal number of liberal and conservative positions), just 7% have down-the-line liberal political values,” Pew wrote. That does not stop the hosts and guests on the nation’s most solidly liberal cable network from catering to that extraordinarily narrow point of view.

MSNBC host Touré landed squarely in the “solidly liberal” camp when he scolded President Barack Obama for being too conservative on racial issues. “When the president speaks to the black community, there’s often a dive into the politics of personal responsibility. I cringe at that, as if effort and excuses have been the problem,” the host said in February. “No. It’s been structural racism.”

MSNBC host Chris Hayes recently interviewed Dr. Ben Carson and marveled over his insistence that racial relations in the United States have improved dramatically in the last 50 years. His fellow guest, Demos President Heather McGhee countered with the majority MSNBC viewpoint that the U.S. remains plagued by “vast disparities predicated on race.”

This “solidly liberal” impulse to craft and denounce episodes of racial animus in American life extends beyond politics.

The plight of the film 12 Years a Slave was recently elevated as an example of how it is an “uphill battle” for a movie with uncomfortable racial themes to generate acclaim. Two days after that segment aired, that film won Best Picture and Best Actress at the Academy Awards. So, the segment was more about wishing a racial problem into existence than objectively highlighting one.

The nation’s first African-American Attorney General, appointed by the nation’s first African-American president, recently hurled the bloody tunic of racism into a crowd of supporters when he implied that a panel of congressional Republicans subjected him to a thorough grilling over a law enforcement matter because he was black. He recently echoed Touré’s assertion that subtle, virtually undetectable racism — the kind requiring paid experts to both identify and decipher — was a greater threat than the overt racism displayed by Donald Sterling.

The usual suspects attempted to tar Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) as a covert racist because he acknowledged that poverty in inner city neighborhoods is often trans-generational – a claim the president has also made, but did not result in similar denunciations.

Famed linguist and iconoclast John McWhorter was recently drafted to address the truly serious concerns expressed by truly serious people over the tune “Turkey in the Straw,” which often blares from ice cream trucks in the summer, and its shamefully racist past.

If you listen closely, you can hear the sound of “solidly liberal” heads exploding as they infer from this column the assertion that racism does not exist or is not a problem in America. That conclusion is self-evidently untrue and serves as a convenient means by which they can avoid confronting this poll and its comprehensive rebuke of their worldview.

And Pew is not alone. A poll conducted by CBS News in March revealed that six in 10 Americans believe race relations in America are “generally good.” That figure included 60 percent of whites and 55 percent of blacks.

We often hear about how out of step Republicans and conservative organizations are with the views of a majority of Americans on social policy. On issues ranging from gun ownership rights to gay marriage, we are regularly inundated with the assertion that liberals are more in tune with the cultural philosophy of most Americans. On at least one social issue, a fundamental and central one at that, the left is not representative of America.


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Yes, everything is racist.

Bishop on July 7, 2014 at 5:23 PM

At some point you have to take off the training wheels.

jmtham156 on July 7, 2014 at 5:28 PM

main reason blacks can’t get ahead

I cant wait until someone reads about the First Black President in the newspaper.

The oceans have receded, and such. We are all filled with hope for a change.

faraway on July 7, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Everything isn’t racist.

Not everything – the rest is homophobic.

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Ward Cleaver on July 7, 2014 at 5:30 PM

This poll is racist.

MT on July 7, 2014 at 5:31 PM

They need to believe in that. It is what gets them votes. If they admit everything is looking good then they can’t continue to tell blacks that they need their help and keep them on their plantation.

The Notorious G.O.P on July 7, 2014 at 5:31 PM

The usual suspects attempted to tar Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) as a covert racist because he acknowledged that poverty in inner city neighborhoods is often trans-generational – a claim the president has also made, but did not result in similar denunciations.

Insulting trannies – see what I mean about homophobic?

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Ward Cleaver on July 7, 2014 at 5:32 PM

How about “US reverts some of the changes it made to please blacks to achieve an equality”?

Rix on July 7, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Poll: Liberals out of step with America on race relations

Pew wasted money on this poll? Of course liberals think that we are still a long way from giving blacks everything they want. That only comes with race-based quotas, disproportionate voting blocs, and reparations. Pew’s poll does have a glaring error- there is no such thing as a “faith and family” Democrat. You can’t support the Dem agenda and still support faith or family. That’s why Democrats hate God (and Christians in particular) and continually seek to re-define family along terms that include baby daddies, gay marriage, and state-rearing of all children no matter what the parents believe in. For Democrats the state is both the religion and the family.

Because of the above motives, racial relations remain stuck in a time when lunch counters were segregated, blacks were expected to sit at the back of the bus, and blacks had no economic or educational opportunities. There are snarling police dogs continually on patrol at the Edmund Pettis bridge.

Happy Nomad on July 7, 2014 at 5:34 PM

…main reason blacks can’t get ahead…

There could be a misprint here…

*ducks*

Rix on July 7, 2014 at 5:34 PM

“Faith and Family Left”: LOL!

What does that mean? One kid, four cats, and members of the Unitarian Universalist Church (the UUs)?

Ward Cleaver on July 7, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Yes, everything is racist.

Bishop on July 7, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Well, I’m pretty sure a large carbon footprint is the result of white privilege, and since global warming causes droughts, floods, warm winters, cold winters, fallen souffles and war, yes, the weather is bad because we’re racist.

I’m just trying to figure out what a “faith and family leftist” is.

trubble on July 7, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Poll: Liberals Leftist thugs out of step with America on race relations

There are NO liberals/progressives on the thuggish Left of today.

Schadenfreude on July 7, 2014 at 5:35 PM

I’m just trying to figure out what a “faith and family leftist” is.

trubble on July 7, 2014 at 5:35 PM

See my post above.

Ward Cleaver on July 7, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Amnesty shills, all of you, you undermine all the minorities in the USA.

Therefore, with NO exceptions, you are all racists.

Schadenfreude on July 7, 2014 at 5:36 PM

You undermine the legal minorities in the USA.

Schadenfreude on July 7, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Blacks vote for Democrats.
Democrats love racism (i.e. whites are racists type racism) because it gets Blacks to vote for Democrats.
So Democrats keep screaming racism (i.e. whites are racists type racism) and Blacks keep voting for Democrats.
If Blacks would vote for Republicans, the topic of racism would most likely fade away as a national voting issue.

albill on July 7, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Liberals believe that statistics prove racism.

See the “disparate impact” legal theory being used as evidence of institutional racism.

From test scores, to college admission ratios, to ratios of minorities in prison, to HUD regulating banks giving home loans, liberal critics, and now government regulators, are using the disparate impact theory to “prove” racism without any proof of a single racist act.

sonof1073rd on July 7, 2014 at 5:41 PM

I’m just trying to figure out what a “faith and family leftist” is.

trubble on July 7, 2014 at 5:35 PM

A lib who believes in the family of nations and has faith that government can fix everything.

What are you, stupid, try reading a book sometime.

Bishop on July 7, 2014 at 5:41 PM

The usual suspects attempted to tar Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) as a covert racist because he acknowledged that poverty in inner city neighborhoods is often trans-generational – a claim the president has also made, but did not result in similar denunciations.

Tar? That’s pretty racist!

I would argue that it isn’t an issue of poverty. That’s a cop out. The poor, including blacks, built thriving neighborhoods and cultures. Harlem ring a bell? Or New Orleans (where the we mark today just the 50th first beignet served to a black at Café Du Mond). No! The biggest problem with inner-city blacks started with LBJ’s war on poverty where he made inner city blacks wards of the state. Not expected to work or contribute to society beyond breeding the next generation of parasites that can be rounded up and convinced to vote Democrat.

Happy Nomad on July 7, 2014 at 5:41 PM

When red gets fed, when yellow becomes mellow, when black hits the sack, when white becomes tight….or whatever it is. You know what I mean.

Bishop on July 7, 2014 at 5:44 PM

I’m just trying to figure out what a “faith and family leftist” is.

trubble on July 7, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Those would be the misguided idjits that have Pro-life bumper stickers next to their Obama 2012 stickers.

Laura in Maryland on July 7, 2014 at 5:47 PM

See my post above.

Ward Cleaver on July 7, 2014 at 5:36 PM

A lib who believes in the family of nations and has faith that government can fix everything.

What are you, stupid, try reading a book sometime.

Bishop on July 7, 2014 at 5:41 PM

I think we all might be missing the obvious. Is the guy in the middle a Faith and Family Leftist?

trubble on July 7, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Those would be the misguided idjits that have Pro-life bumper stickers next to their Obama 2012 stickers.

Laura in Maryland on July 7, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Driven to mass at their local Catholic church.

Happy Nomad on July 7, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Poll: Liberals out of step with America on race relations

…because generally speaking…they are the most bigoted people you will ever know!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 7, 2014 at 5:51 PM

When red gets fed, when yellow becomes mellow, when black hits the sack, when white becomes tight….or whatever it is. You know what I mean.

Bishop on July 7, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Yeah, hate whitey you all!

Happy Nomad on July 7, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Is the guy in the middle a Faith and Family Leftist?

trubble on July 7, 2014 at 5:47 PM

I do believe you have identified one.

Happy Nomad on July 7, 2014 at 5:56 PM

On at least one social issue, a fundamental and central one at that, the left is not representative of America.

Overall, the US seems to be essentially tied as to whether further changes are needed (46% yes to 49% no). Or are you saying that the left is out of step on the main reason blacks can’t get ahead (27% to 63%)?

jim56 on July 7, 2014 at 6:01 PM

They’re “out of step” by design.

Re-posting … again . . . . . :
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In post World War II America, some Godly Christian people began to affect a change in American cultural standards and practices that they believe needed changing.

These Christian believers made no secret of the fact that they believed that they were following God, and that God was leading them.

Other Christians didn’t agree with the type of change that this first group of Christians wanted to bring to pass. They resisted and fought against their fellow Christian brethren over this “cultural change” that they did not wish to come to pass.
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Some time after this first movement was started, another movement for change in American cultural standards and practices began to take shape.
The leaders of this movement were NOT Christian believers. In fact they made no secret of their contempt for Christianity, and all that it stood for.

Gradually, over time the leaders of the UN-Godly movement began to infiltrate the Godly movement. A little more time (and a few assassinations later), the UN-Godly leaders completely hi-jacked what had started out as a Godly movement, and claimed it as their own.

And that’s where we’ve been for the last forty some odd years . The UN-Godly hiding behind the former Godly, claiming that if you oppose them (the UN-Godly), then you must be in opposition to the former Godly movement as well. They (the UN-Godly) claim that the two different movements are in fact one, and cannot be separated.

Well, I reject, renounce, and DEFY the “premise”, that the Civil Rights Movement as defined by the Reverend and Doctor Martin Luther King Jr is in ANY way connected to the faithless, unbelieving, Socialized Government, anti-capitalist, anti-’recognition-of-God’ movement.

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The Civil Rights movement was hi-jacked for the expressed purpose of using it as a cloak/cover/camoflage … over top of the un-Godly, liberal, socialized government movement.

All they have had for years is “Why do you hate black people? you must be racist” … everytime you opposed them on some kind of socialized government cause.

They’re not about to give it up as a weapon, in political arguments.

listens2glenn on July 7, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Where is pervfessor libsfree to tell us what horrible homophobic racists we all are for even commenting in this thread?

oscarwilde on July 7, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Well Eric Holder sure as hell is suing Texas over laws the Supreme Court upheld.

sorrowen on July 7, 2014 at 6:06 PM

The survey discovered that 91 percent of “solid liberals” and 72 percent of “faith and family left,” or those with a mix of conservative and liberal views on social issues, agree that the country “needs to continue making changes to give blacks equal rights.”

 
Would one of our (D)s make a list of which ones they don’t have, please?

rogerb on July 7, 2014 at 6:10 PM

If lazy people are considered a race, then I suppose I’m racist.. otherwise, I say people are responsible for their own success. It shouldn’t be handed to anyone.

Effay5 on July 7, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Overall, the US seems to be essentially tied as to whether further changes are needed (46% yes to 49% no). Or are you saying that the left is out of step on the main reason blacks can’t get ahead (27% to 63%)?

jim56 on July 7, 2014 at 6:01 PM

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The left are “out of step” as to the correct METHODS OF STRATEGY BY WHICH TO ACCOMPLISH AND ACHIEVE POSITIVE CHANGE … for everyone … includes black Americans.
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Number ONE … is “public recognition of God” . . . . . the “Warren Court” be damned.

listens2glenn on July 7, 2014 at 6:10 PM

OT: Float in Norfolk, NE July 4th parade depicts Obama presidential library as an out house. Hurray for Norfolkthey got it right.

http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/obama-presidential-library-float-at-norfolk-parade-draws-criticism/article_22f03464-04ab-11e4-bf54-0017a43b2370.html

bgibbs1000 on July 7, 2014 at 6:16 PM

No reason to worry about black Americans. Apparently half of them intend to own their own business in two years:

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/07/07/americans-think-the-countrys-best-days-are-behind-it/

will77jeff on July 7, 2014 at 6:26 PM

the country “needs to continue making changes to give blacks equal rights.”

Keep on making those excuses for those who won’t get off their dead asses!

How long have “the boat people” of Vietnam been here? Oh, look, they’ve got sons and daughters GRADUATING FROM WEST POINT! How about those who fled Castro? Oh, look, they’ve got sons and daughters GRADUATING FROM WEST POINT!

Yeah, we’ve got a RACIST! society! BULLSHIT!

Bill Cosby got pilloried by Blacks – “How dare you wash our dirty linen in public!”

It’s time to stop the excuses!

GarandFan on July 7, 2014 at 6:30 PM

This thread should bring out the race-boaters……

itsspideyman on July 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Baiters. … hate word assist. …

itsspideyman on July 7, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Overall, the US seems to be essentially tied as to whether further changes are needed (46% yes to 49% no). Or are you saying that the left is out of step on the main reason blacks can’t get ahead (27% to 63%)?

jim56 on July 7, 2014 at 6:01 PM

No, the left is just out of step….period

itsspideyman on July 7, 2014 at 6:47 PM

It would be fun if some conservative wiseacre appeared on MSNBC and answered every single question as if it was a racist slap.

Q: “I hope you had a nice flight”
A: “What a condescending raaacist thing for you to say”
Q: “Well, you people flew all the way over here to…”
A: “What do you mean you people ?”

and on and on. Every single question be taken as some kind of horrible slight.

kurtzz3 on July 7, 2014 at 6:53 PM

I figured brainfree would be around here foaming at the mouth all over this post. Maybe he’s at a pot party bogarting like a Choomster pro.

NotCoach on July 7, 2014 at 6:53 PM

…blacks can’t get ahead…

jim56 on July 7, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Sorry, but your precious savior King Barry shot that meme all to hell.

CurtZHP on July 7, 2014 at 6:59 PM

You just figured it out?

formwiz on July 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Liberals out of step with America on race relations nearly EVERYTHING!!

(repaired headline to match reality)

landlines on July 7, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Social cons are wildly out of step on gay civil rights, no ones telling them to back down. Also really dumb poll questions.

libfreeordie on July 7, 2014 at 7:45 PM

toure and msnbc equals devils spawn….

crosshugger on July 7, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Social cons are wildly out of step on gay civil rights, no ones telling them to back down. Also really dumb poll questions.

libfreeordie on July 7, 2014 at 7:45 PM

Libtards are totally out of step on gun owners’ rights – a far larger portion of the population than gays, blacks, or any other “minority” group in this country.

dentarthurdent on July 7, 2014 at 8:01 PM

…blacks can’t get ahead…

jim56 on July 7, 2014 at 6:01 PM

In what Godawful reality do you LIVE in?

If there is a scintilla of truth to your statement, its because Blacks have been treated like an endangered species so long, we damn well are nearly one for REAL.

We’re people, just like anyone else, we have good people, we have GREAT people, and we have bumbling jack-wagons…

Just. Like. Everyone. Else. Period, effin dot.

BlaxPac on July 7, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Everything isn’t racist.

Not true. leftists have no capacity to see things as they are. They must always look through their own racist optics. I find the folks who dwell so much on race to be racist. They actually spend energy and time doing so. That it seems to me is the first qualifier for being a racist. To actively engage in behavior which promotes racism. Without the threat of racism they have little else.

Bmore on July 7, 2014 at 9:45 PM

…blacks can’t get ahead…

jim56 on July 7, 2014 at 6:01 PM

In what Godawful reality do you LIVE in?

If there is a scintilla of truth to your statement, its because Blacks have been treated like an endangered species so long, we damn well are nearly one for REAL.

We’re people, just like anyone else, we have good people, we have GREAT people, and we have bumbling jack-wagons…

Just. Like. Everyone. Else. Period, effin dot.

BlaxPac on July 7, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Hey, don’t jump all over me. I was just repeating one of the poll’s questions.

jim56 on July 7, 2014 at 10:28 PM

That does not stop the hosts and guests on the nation’s most solidly liberal cable network from catering to that extraordinarily narrow point of view.

Well, them and all the HotAir folks who help keep their ratings up……

If Blacks would vote for Republicans conservatives, the topic of racism would most likely fade away as a national voting issue.

albill on July 7, 2014 at 5:40 PM

FIFY

GWB on July 8, 2014 at 9:12 AM

I assume that “solidly liberal” equates to “communist” because stupid amerikans don’t know what “liberal” really means.

earlgrey on July 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM