Obama administration looking for Plan B for, er, Plan B after Hobby Lobby

posted at 1:01 pm on July 5, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Narrowly decided?” The White House apparently knows better than to buy into the media’s rush into a comforting consensus over the applicability of the Hobby Lobby decision. The New York Times reports today that the Obama administration has begun looking into large-scale alternatives to the HHS contraceptive mandate after the Supreme Court blew a big hole in it this week:

The Obama administration, reeling from back-to-back blows from the Supreme Court this week, is weighing options that would provide contraceptive coverage to thousands of women who are about to lose it or never had it because of their employers’ religious objections.

The administration must move fast. Legal and health care experts expect a rush to court involving scores of employers seeking to take advantage of the two decisions, one involvingHobby Lobby Stores, which affects for-profit businesses, and the other on Wheaton Collegethat concerns religiously affiliated nonprofit groups. About 100 cases are pending.

One proposal the White House is studying would put companies’ insurers or health plan administrators on the spot for contraceptive coverage, with details of reimbursement to be worked out later.

Another would give the administration itself a larger role in offering cost-free coverage to women who cannot get it through their employers, although the option for a new government entitlement appears unrealistic for financial and political reasons.

The White House is under such pressure that no one has been able to work out details of how the alternatives would be financed or administered.

No one bothered before now to look into a Plan B for, er, Plan B and coverage for other contraceptives? Granted, there have been conflicting rulings from district and appellate courts on this issue, but the large majority of rulings foreshadowed both Hobby Lobby and Wheaton College. The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which has been fighting these cases on behalf of business owners, has this helpful infographic to show the lopsided results so far:

becket-hhs-mandate

The problem for the administration before now was that any alternative would have proven Becket Fund and other attorneys for business owners correct. Under the RFRA, HHS had to argue that their current mandate both served a compelling governmental interest and that their solution was the least burdensome method to serve that interest in relation to the right to free religious expression. Had they been working on another, intermediate solution such as those outlined in this article, the courts would have chewed up HHS and spit out the contraception mandate and its so-called “accommodation” long before now.

In fact, that’s exactly what Justice Samuel Alito did by highlighting the “accommodation” that never got offered to Hobby Lobby or other for-profit businesses. That reference was initially misunderstood as an endorsement of the accommodation, but it was instead a demonstration of the failure of HHS to meet the “least burdensome” test. The injunction for Wheaton College strongly suggests that the accommodation will fall too, at least in part because it’s still not the least burdensome way that the government can serve their interest in providing contraception for free, and perhaps because scrutiny on that claim may eliminate even that basic issue for reasons I described in my Fiscal Times column this week:

Contraception in almost all of its forms is inexpensive and widely available. Furthermore, although HHS considers contraception preventive medicine, it doesn’t prevent disease or block the spread of contagion, unless one considers babies a plague.

Besides, there is no crisis in accessing contraception. As noted above, the CDC’s 26-year study of unplanned pregnancies (1982-2008) shows that 99 percent of all sexually active women seeking to avoid pregnancy accessed contraception. Access to contraception is such a non-issue that the word “access” only appears once in the entire report, and that in a footnote about access to health insurance. So despite all of the shouts of doom, nothing in this decision impacts the already-universal access to contraception Americans have had for the last four decades.

Furthermore, even if this were some kind of contraception-access crisis in the US, HHS chose the most burdensome method of addressing it. The federal government already subsidizes contraception for low-income Americans through Title X; the Obama administration or Congress could have expanded that program. They could have reclassified birth-control pills as over-the-counter rather than requiring a prescription, as Bobby Jindal and other Republicans have proposed.

Instead of trying those intermediate remedies, HHS instead forced employers and their insurers to provide contraception for free regardless of their religious beliefs, while at the same time arguing hypocritically that any resistance to that idea was tantamount to interfering in a private transaction between a woman and her doctor.

The White House knows this. Their sudden desire to find a completely new workaround for the HHS contraception mandate shows that they’re not buying the “narrowly decided” hype now. Now that they’ve lost, they are going back to the drawing board in a way which future courts can cite to show just how far off the mark the Obama administration was in satisfying the RFRA in the first place. The desperate attempt to redraft the HHS contraception mandate is a surrender to a complete loss.

Addendum: By the way, the administration’s argument that contraception should be free because it saves money has also run into reality, which the NYT notes in its conclusion:

The situation is more complicated when employers self-insure. There, the administration says, outside plan administrators may obtain a “compensating reduction” in the fees paid by insurers to participate in the insurance exchanges established by the health care law. Those adjustments, the administration has said, will not cost much.

Some religious organizations are using that arrangement. But employee benefits experts said it was not working well, in part because insurers and third-party administrators have had to foot the bill for contraceptive coverage without any immediate offset or reimbursement. …

The Obama administration says the cost of providing contraceptives will be offset by savings that result from greater use of birth control, “fewer unplanned pregnancies” and improvement in women’s health. But, Mr. Condeluci said, “It may be years before the savings are realized.”

If ever. This was part of the White House’s argument that contraception is preventive medicine, on par with vaccinations and regular exams, except those actually prevent disease. They save money because the costs of disease are (a) substantial and dramatic, (b) near term, (c) always unplanned, and (d) not a lifestyle choice being merely postponed rather than entirely avoided. All of the costs for contraception are incurred up front, while the savings are theoretically occurring over 20-30 years, and even then only if the consumer chooses to have no children ever. Even so, insurers have to raise enough money in premiums in the current year to satisfy up-front outlays, so “free” contraception will raise premiums no matter what.


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Buy your own fu*ki*g pills, all of you.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:02 PM

The majority never wanted obama’care’.

Throw all out who voted for it.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:03 PM

obama fancies himself the Pimp of the Land.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:03 PM

That 4 justices were as thuggish as to decide differently on HL is incredibly illebaral and anti-progressive.

It’s stunning.

The only good thing is that now the leftist thugs agree that the Taliban and sharia are bad…for the first time in history. Until now they always said “Just other cultures, rubes”. Now they compare the conservatives with the Taliban/sharia, thanks to Hobby Lobby.

One has to thank God for little progress from the ‘advanced’ left.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:06 PM

It’s the Supreme Court Obama…not the district the supreme…there is no work around.

sorrowen on July 5, 2014 at 1:06 PM

illebaral illiberal

Never call leftists liberals or progressives; the thugs are always leftist fascist dictators.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM

errr Ed, contraceptives DO prevent disease

condoms are some of the best protection against STDs

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:09 PM

illebaral illiberal
Never call leftists liberals or progressives; the thugs are always leftist fascist dictators.
Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM
Obama’s narcissism and ego know no bounds there is no way around this even with executive action. Any action he takes to do the same thing is gutted on signing. He might not follow rule of law but rule of law is kicking his ass in the courts and that’s ironic.

sorrowen on July 5, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Buy your own fu*ki*g pills, all of you.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:02 PM

That!

rplat on July 5, 2014 at 1:11 PM

So by this “logic” we are all a disease that simply wasn’t treated or prevented in time.

UnderstandingisPower on July 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Shame there wasn’t a constitutional law professor available to look at the ACA before passing it.

rogerb on July 5, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Cassidy Says Teenage Daughter is Pregnant

GOP Rep. Bill Cassidy, who is challenging Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) in one of this year’s most competitive Senate races, revealed late Thursday that his 17-year-old daughter became pregnant out of wedlock and is due later this summer.

Where the hell were the aspirins? The GOP parents need to provide aspirins for their daughters’ knees!..

I wonder if she wanted to get pregnant at 17..?!?!?! It is Louisiana you know…..
Wonder if she or the father have jobs..!?!?! It seems like they would have waited until they graduated high school…..and got married…..
Wonder what kind of person Rep. Cassidy is by teaching his daughter this kind of values…

Guess she didnt catch Bristol on her Abstinence Tour?

Ned Pepper on July 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Also, I thought we needed the illegals to come in because we won’t have enough people to pay into Social Security. Wouldn’t it be better if we just had our own kids to sustain this program?

Liberals make no sense!

UnderstandingisPower on July 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM

errr Ed, contraceptives DO prevent disease

condoms are some of the best protection against STDs

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Duh. Once again you prove yourself one of the dimmest posters ever.

And no, chemical contraceptives do not prevent disease. Now go the phuck away SB.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM

errr Ed, contraceptives DO prevent disease

condoms are some of the best protection against STDs

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Yeah, and they’re also over-the-counter. No one needs prescription coverage for condoms.

Ed Morrissey on July 5, 2014 at 1:15 PM

less abortions = more welfare babies = greater debt

I thought conservatives were against welfare and increasing deficit?!

I’m incredulous at the inconsistency!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Ned Pepper on July 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM

You being ugly? Who would have thought? To the bone. (SB)

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:17 PM

errr Ed, contraceptives DO prevent disease

condoms are some of the best protection against STDs

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Mass migrations caused all the plagues in the world. YOU and obama are responsible for the influx of diseases to the USA. I hope you all get scabies and itch, eternally, into oblivion.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:17 PM

less abortions = more welfare babies = greater debt

I thought conservatives were against welfare and increasing deficit?!

I’m incredulous at the inconsistency!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Logical fallacy. Thank for proving my point once again SB.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Maybe the solution is to go to big Pharma and tell them they have to provide contraception and abortifacients at no cost. I’m sure the drug companies, which so heavily supported the ACA, won’t mind taking one for the team.

BKeyser on July 5, 2014 at 1:18 PM

condoms are some of the best protection against STDs

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Too bad your mom didn’t think of that. Seriously.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:18 PM

More WarOnWomen nonsense, do not fall into their hands again

thebrokenrattle on July 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM

condoms are some of the best protection against STDs

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Then how come the ACA doesn’t cover them?

Walter L. Newton on July 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Maybe the solution is to go to big Pharma and tell them they have to provide contraception and abortifacients at no cost. I’m sure the drug companies, which so heavily supported the ACA, won’t mind taking one for the team.

BKeyser on July 5, 2014 at 1:18 PM

I just told my kids that yesterday. That makes as much sense as forcing anyone(employer included) to pay for something they don’t want to pay for.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM

less abortions = more welfare babies = greater debt

I thought conservatives were against welfare and increasing deficit?!

I’m incredulous at the inconsistency!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Less illegal immigration = less welfare moochers = lesser debt

I thought leftist thugs were for legal blacks/minorities and the middle class, and reduced deficit.

You need more coffee.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Then how come the ACA doesn’t cover them?

Walter L. Newton on July 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM

I think you know.

MEN are expected to buy them .

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:20 PM

less abortions = more welfare babies = greater debt

I thought conservatives were against welfare and increasing deficit?!

I’m incredulous at the inconsistency!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Less illegal immigration = less welfare moochers = lesser debt

I thought leftist thugs were for legal blacks/minorities and the middle class, and reduced deficit.

You need more coffee.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:20 PM

less abortions = more welfare babies = greater debt

I thought conservatives were against welfare and increasing deficit?!

I’m incredulous at the inconsistency!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Dont strain yourself too much while patting yourself on the back for your transparent “intellectual” dishonesty.

Jedditelol on July 5, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Less illegal influx (my mistake – never is illegal anything “immigration) = lesser diseases = lesser healthcare costs = lesser debt.

I thought illustrious minds like nonpartisan know this.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Less illegal immigration = less welfare moochers = lesser debt

I thought leftist thugs were for legal blacks/minorities and the middle class, and reduced deficit.

You need more coffee.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Nicely played. That’ll leave a mark….well that is if the dimwit is smart enough to recognize the bus that just hit him.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM

What he’s really grasping for is a Plan B for making religion buckle under to the state.

Between this and Hosanna Tabor, he’s not doing well.

Wethal on July 5, 2014 at 1:23 PM

I think you know.

MEN are expected to buy them .

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:20 PM

I rarely ask a question without first knowing the answer.

But my question was for nonpartisan.

Walter L. Newton on July 5, 2014 at 1:23 PM

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Dont strain yourself too much while patting yourself on the back for your transparent “intellectual” dishonesty.

Jedditelol on July 5, 2014 at 1:20 PM

He’s learns that from libfree. They share ideas during their “sessions”.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:23 PM

He better not even think about using tax dollars to pay for abortifacients.

Kissmygrits on July 5, 2014 at 1:24 PM

But my question was for nonpartisan.

Walter L. Newton on July 5, 2014 at 1:23 PM

But you’re not really expecting an answer …are you?

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Obama has a hubris the size of Saturn and it seems thinks executive action can reverse this…it’s decided by the Supreme Court. The lawless president lecturing about law…come to think of it his critizms are never of any substance…

sorrowen on July 5, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Ned Pepper on July 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM

So she is due in late summer. Must mean she is not going to Planned Parenthood anytime soon to stop the “punishment” of having a child.

can_con on July 5, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Why doesn’t Hillary Clinton donate some of her massive speaking fees to pay for everyone’s contraceptives?

TarheelBen on July 5, 2014 at 1:26 PM

A fundamental problem here will end up being the requirement that there is a “compelling national interest.” Obama is attempting to declare this interest on his own, with no legislation from Congress. Without Congressional involvement, it is hard to see how he can make the claim. It might be *his* preference, but he hasn’t demonstrated that there is a national interest through an act of Congress.

HakerA on July 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM

He’s learns that from libfree. They share ideas during their “sessions”.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Is Libby grooming np?

slickwillie2001 on July 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Ned Pepper on July 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM

BTW ahole–how do you know she did not use the pill or a condom? Something you’re not telling us???

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Ned Pepper on July 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM

What’s really nagging at you is that your harlot will lose.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Is Libby grooming np?

slickwillie2001 on July 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM

I was joking. I think NP is older than 16 anyways.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Every single item obama signs by himself will be erased by a single stroke of the pen, and the Pimp of the Land knows it.

The guy is truly sick. Just look at him.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Landrieu must go the way of Blanche Lincoln.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:32 PM

The guy is truly sick. Just look at him.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:31 PM

yeah…just look at him, he’s a grotesque dark black man!!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:33 PM

HakerA on July 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM That’s the issue he is starting to run into more and more. While executive power is his and he abuses it daily. Obama has a pretty lousy executive action record his ACA orders caused nothing but trouble and backfired,his prisoner release order blew up in his face, his immagration exec order led to a humanitarian crises. So his attempt to out manuver the Supreme Court with a order is just moronic…

sorrowen on July 5, 2014 at 1:34 PM

yeah…just look at him, he’s a grotesque dark black man!!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Only to you, racist!

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Obama administration looking for Plan B for, er, Plan B after Hobby Lobby

Awesome headline.

Stoic Patriot on July 5, 2014 at 1:35 PM

He better start thinking about how he’s going to replace all those “federal” exchange subsidies.

can_con on July 5, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Best solution – make most forms of bc OTC.

katiejane on July 5, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Obama is only half black…but that makes you all black these days…

sorrowen on July 5, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Look at Dr. Carson, Tim Scott, Mia Love, baldilocks, all beautiful blacks.

Only nonpartisan sees the world in black, the racist!

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:36 PM

condoms are some of the best protection against STDs

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Then how come the ACA doesn’t cover them?

Walter L. Newton on July 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Because they aren’t interested in public health or trying to stop the spread of diseases.

An actual case can be made for barrier methods of contraception for its direct public health benefit. They are cheap, they don’t mess with hormonal balances and they are effective. When the gay community used them, the rate of AIDS spread dropped. When things got loosened up, the rate of spread increased.

Good thing they are cheap.

Too bad good sense is apparently expensive.

ajacksonian on July 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM

less abortions = more welfare babies = greater debt

I thought conservatives were against welfare and increasing deficit?!

I’m incredulous at the inconsistency!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:16 PM

If we could crack down on welfare fraud, there’d be plenty of money without additional earmarks needed.

will77jeff on July 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM

A fundamental problem here will end up being the requirement that there is a “compelling national interest.” Obama is attempting to declare this interest on his own, with no legislation from Congress. Without Congressional involvement, it is hard to see how he can make the claim. It might be *his* preference, but he hasn’t demonstrated that there is a national interest through an act of Congress.

HakerA on July 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM

There is no compelling national interest in stopping pregnancies, and abortifacients prevent not a single disease. So I don’t see how those with a religious objection to paying for these things can ever be forced to pay for them.

NotCoach on July 5, 2014 at 1:40 PM

yeah…just look at him, he’s a grotesque dark black man!!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Well that exposed you.

will77jeff on July 5, 2014 at 1:40 PM

black man!!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Who said anything about color? OH yeh, you!

rotf lmao. Sheesh, you’re dimwitted.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Look at Dr. Carson, Tim Scott, Mia Love, baldilocks, all beautiful blacks.

Only nonpartisan sees the world in black, the racist!

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:36 PM

beautiful blacks? nice objectification there…

sigh

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:41 PM

condoms are some of the best protection against STDs

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Then how come the ACA doesn’t cover them?

Walter L. Newton on July 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Enough said.

NotCoach on July 5, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Where the hell were the aspirins? The GOP parents need to provide aspirins for their daughters’ knees!..

I wonder if she wanted to get pregnant at 17..?!?!?! It is Louisiana you know…..
Wonder if she or the father have jobs..!?!?! It seems like they would have waited until they graduated high school…..and got married…..
Wonder what kind of person Rep. Cassidy is by teaching his daughter this kind of values…

Guess she didnt catch Bristol on her Abstinence Tour?

Ned Pepper on July 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM

It’s interesting that when people don’t react in the way Ned expects them to, he has to supply the dialog for these mythical people. Keep up the illusion, I guess, Ned, if it helps you sleep at night, but you might want to watch all those exclamation points. You don’t want to give yourself ulcers arguing with your imaginary friends.

BlueCollarAstronaut on July 5, 2014 at 1:42 PM

yeah…just look at him, he’s a grotesque dark black man!!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:33 PM

We already know you think blacks are genetically inferior.

NotCoach on July 5, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Do not forgot that once the government subsidizes a service, the price of that service will go up. Think higher education. So once affordable family planning services will rise dramatically in cost, because now price will be no disincentive and the administration will not seek to control the costs being paid to a loyal contributor like Planned Parenthood.

DocasaurusRx on July 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.

—-

We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.

-Margaret Sanger

Wait. Is np actually Sanger????

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM

BlueCollarAstronaut on July 5, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Ned strikes me as someone who would beat his daughter into getting an abortion.

NotCoach on July 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM

On a side note, HotAir’s juxtaposition of Putin’s and Obama’s respective facepalms on the front page draws an unfortunate and unjustified analogy between two very different gentlemen. I request a change of images.

NorthernCross on July 5, 2014 at 1:44 PM

What Obama really wants to do is find a way to amend the ACA without going through the normal process and allowing Republicans to make amendments to it. That’s been his plan all along, which is why he’s constantly acted illegally when it comes to the ACA. It will be no different now, unless the Republicans withhold funding and take some serious action, highly unlikely with John Boehner as Speaker of the House.

bflat879 on July 5, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Maybe somebody can explain to me how we save money with contraception but at the same time we have to import labor into this country to do work, otherwise we lose money.

Viator on July 5, 2014 at 1:44 PM

sigh

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:41 PM

The irony. Gawd you’re a hoot. You didn’t even get your GED.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Ned Pepper on July 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM

No, no, no, Ned. You are a Liberal, remember? Liberals are pro-abortion. You’re supposed to go on and on and on about how she shouldn’t be punished with a baby/

lineholder on July 5, 2014 at 1:45 PM

The irony. Gawd you’re a hoot. You didn’t even get your GED.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Nah, he skipped that and went straight to Harvard Law. Ask him for his legal analysis of the Hobby Lobby case.

NotCoach on July 5, 2014 at 1:46 PM

We already know you think blacks are genetically inferior.

NotCoach on July 5, 2014 at 1:42 PM

actually blacks are genetically superior…hence the 100m, 200m winners are all black

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:46 PM

So if your a conservative your either racist or homophobic these. Well to all the liberals…I’m not encouraging homosexuals to sleep around and spread lethal diseases. That’s why im against “marrying” them…of course liberals don’t care if they die awfully they just want their money and votes…

sorrowen on July 5, 2014 at 1:46 PM

The majority never wanted obama’care’.

Throw all out who voted for it.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 1:03 PM

The bottom line at least here in Kentucky is that we successfully signed up 420,000 more people onto Medicaid that we are going to have to start paying 10% next year of what they use year and we don’t have the money. After 2016 is anybody’s guess as the Fed has not stated what reimbursement rate they are going to provide the States that did expand Medicare.

Johnnyreb on July 5, 2014 at 1:47 PM

I just told my kids that yesterday. That makes as much sense as forcing anyone(employer included) to pay for something they don’t want to pay for.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM

The obvious sarcasm in my comment, apparently was obvious enough.

BKeyser on July 5, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Maybe somebody can explain to me how we save money with contraception but at the same time we have to import labor into this country to do work, otherwise we lose money.

Viator on July 5, 2014 at 1:44 PM

contraception = less unwanted pregancies

less unwanted pregancies = less welfare babies

less welfare babies = less welfare adolescants

less welfare adolescants = less criminals and societal deviants

less criminals and societal deviants = more money to spend on infrastructure

it’s not that complicated, guys

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM

yeah…just look at him, he’s a grotesque dark black man!!

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:33 PM

I wish you could understand why your racialist world view is so unfortunate for you; it is divisive, ignorant and fundamentally unsupported by fact or reason.

I realize you are only a teenager, but you really need to look closely at your beliefs before those beliefs cripple you.

Dolce Far Niente on July 5, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Get up all in that womb.

Ben Hur on July 5, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Maybe somebody can explain to me how we save money with contraception but at the same time we have to import labor into this country to do work, otherwise we lose money.

Viator on July 5, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Squaring that circle will take a lot of word play and lies.

Say let’s ask np. Np what you say?

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:50 PM

contraception = less unwanted pregancies

less unwanted pregancies = less welfare babies

less welfare babies = less welfare adolescants

less welfare adolescants = less criminals and societal deviants

less criminals and societal deviants = more money to spend on infrastructure

it’s not that complicated, guys

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Those have all been established as code words for African-Americans.

Why don’t you just say it.

Ben Hur on July 5, 2014 at 1:50 PM

actually blacks are genetically superior…hence the 100m, 200m winners are all black

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Did I just read that???

Bwwhaahahahahahahahaha

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:51 PM

contraception = less unwanted pregancies

less unwanted pregancies = less welfare babies

less welfare babies = less welfare adolescants

less welfare adolescants = less criminals and societal deviants

less criminals and societal deviants = more money to spend on infrastructure

it’s not that complicated, guys

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Maybe somebody can explain to me how we save money with contraception but at the same time we have to import labor into this country to do work, otherwise we lose money.

Viator on July 5, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Squaring that circle will take a lot of word play and lies.

Say let’s ask np. Np what you say?

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:50 PM

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Dolce Far Niente on July 5, 2014 at 1:49 PM I wonder if me liking black comedy is racist then?? Of course liberals don’t give a f&@% about the mass shootings in Chicago nope all they care about are whackos who get guns and shoot people. All the while doing nothing to address said mental
health of said whackos…

sorrowen on July 5, 2014 at 1:52 PM

less welfare adolescants = less criminals and societal deviants

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Link please . I do want to see especially proof that welfare recipients are more likely criminals.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:53 PM

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

Joe nonpartisan Biden.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM

less abortions = more welfare babies = greater debt

However, before there was welfare there were fewer abortions and less debt, so the another solution would seem to be to eliminate welfare.

F X Muldoon on July 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM

However, before there was welfare there were fewer abortions and less debt, so the another solution would seem to be to eliminate welfare.

F X Muldoon on July 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM

you mean the era when blacks didn’t have rights….yeah, we should go back to that era

*rolls eyes*

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:57 PM

actually blacks are genetically superior…hence the 100m, 200m winners are all black

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:46 PM

You are, without a doubt, the least bright bulb in any drawer. So now you openly support your past comments on the genetic differences between whites and blacks that make blacks less capable to carry or possess firearms.

switzerland is a racially homogenous country, its conclusions cannot be applied to the US, a racially heterogenous country

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 11:57 AM

I’ll bite. Why would that be?

MJBrutus on January 3, 2014 at 12:14 PM

uh, different demographics should be treated differently

a study of cardiac medicine on white subjects would not necessarily be applicable to african american populace

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 12:18 PM

So tell us; how are the races different?

NotCoach on January 3, 2014 at 12:30 PM

I’m not racist for stating the obvious

or is hotair now a PC haven?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Think of us all as monstrously ignorant as you and please state the obvious for us.

NotCoach on January 3, 2014 at 12:45 PM

when was the last time the winner of the 100m dash was not black…hrrrmmmmmm

there are differences between races..that is simply evolution

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 12:47 PM

So how does that make blacks physically incapable of being responsible gun owners?

NotCoach on January 3, 2014 at 12:52 PM

I never said or implied such…your comprehension is lacking or you’re projecting. either way, buzz off.

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Yes, you did. You specifically mentioned (as an attempted rebuttal to someone else’s claim) that demographics makes a difference.

GWB on January 3, 2014 at 1:07 PM

NotCoach on July 5, 2014 at 1:58 PM

beautiful blacks? nice objectification there…

sigh

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:41 PM

From the inside, turkey. Only you see people by color, racist.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, including 11 year-old girls even though they cannot buy cigarettes, alcohol, allergy/sinus medication, or Playgirl, can purchase Plan-B without a prescription or parental consent at:

WalMart

Walgreen’s

Target

Listen, I’ll keep my ‘Boardroom Out Of Your Bedroom!’ and my friends’ ‘Rosaries Off Of Your Ovaries!’ if you:

KEEP YOUR BLOODY WOMB OUT OF MY WALLET!!!

Take some responsibility for yourself already. At this rate, you’ll soon be demanding Uncle Sam Sugar, i.e., the taxpayers and future generations, brush your teeth and tie your shoes in the morning.

GROW THE FVCK UP AND GET REAL ALREADY!

I’m damn tired of your incessant whining and temper tantrums.

Resist We Much on July 5, 2014 at 2:00 PM

contraception = less unwanted pregancies

less unwanted pregancies = less welfare babies

less welfare babies = less welfare adolescants

less welfare adolescants = less criminals and societal deviants

less criminals and societal deviants = more money to spend on infrastructure

it’s not that complicated, guys

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM

If welfare babies are the problem then just get rid of welfare.

The poor will always be with us. And for all the trillions spent on trying to end poverty, it will never go away. Perhaps we should try to be better individuals and care for the less well off instead of having bureaucrats do it for us?

ajacksonian on July 5, 2014 at 2:01 PM

However, before there was welfare there were fewer abortions and less debt, so the another solution would seem to be to eliminate welfare.

F X Muldoon on July 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Nonpartisan is getting bruised more than a second rate boxer.

CW on July 5, 2014 at 2:01 PM

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:57 PM

ROFL. You know you just outed yourself, again, right?

You let it be known that your interest in population control relates directly to the black population in America

lineholder on July 5, 2014 at 2:01 PM

“He was very gracious and I have no problem with Joe Biden,” Obama added.

Later on Wednesday, Obama, in a written statement, said “I didn’t take Sen. Biden’s comments personally, but obviously they were historically inaccurate. African-American presidential candidates like Jesse Jackson, Shirley Chisholm, Carol Moseley Braun and Al Sharpton gave a voice to many important issues through their campaigns, and no one would call them inarticulate.”

CW on July 5, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Sit back now. nonpartisan will soon have to go for dinner.

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Perhaps we should try to be better individuals and care for the less well off instead of having bureaucrats do it for us?

ajacksonian on July 5, 2014 at 2:01 PM

yeah, perhaps we should just ask the criminals nicely not to commit crimes instead of having police and jails

must be nice in that naive fantasy land of yours

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 2:03 PM

less welfare babies = less welfare adolescants

less welfare adolescants = less criminals and societal deviants

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Bright bulb, what exactly is an adolescant?

Schadenfreude on July 5, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Plan B……Resign in shame
III

Sgt Stryker on July 5, 2014 at 2:04 PM

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 2:03 PM

No worse than the fantasy of Liberals in believing that government is a trustworthy steward of public funds.

lineholder on July 5, 2014 at 2:04 PM

must be nice in that naive fantasy land of yours

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Again , the irony. Are you for real?

CW on July 5, 2014 at 2:05 PM

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