Realistically, can any losing presidential nominee get nominated again these days?

posted at 2:01 pm on July 3, 2014 by Allahpundit

Just something I’ve been thinking about today while dealing with the migraine that columns like this have given me.

A mysterious “Draft Mitt” website is already in place. His de facto 2016 campaign slogan — “I tried to warn you” — is appealing. A near-majority already agrees that America would have been better off with him as president. All systems are go.

Should an opening emerge, Romney, like Nixon, will have a massive legacy infrastructure at his disposal to seize the opportunity. Impressively, Romney is the only Republican who can roll into any major money center like New York, Los Angeles or Houston and mobilize his fundraisers on demand, and he is doing so with regularity.

Where Romney stands out versus every failed nominee of the last half century is that he, a lifelong businessman with just one successful four-year stint as governor of Massachusetts, is not a career politician. Why might this matter in 2016? Presidential elections are typically about a pendulum swing. A view among many at the conference (aptly titled “The Future of American Leadership”) was the perception of too much rampant incompetence for too long—by both parties. Peggy Noonan echoed this sentiment in a recent column for the Wall Street Journal: “Americans hate incompetence”… and “they’ve seen it now from two administrations.”

I’m not sure the “not a career politician” brand helps much with a guy who’s made it his business lately to help Republican career politicians beat back tea-party challenges, but never mind that. Back to my question in the headline: Could anyone in modern American politics get nominated, lose the presidential election, and then get nominated again? It wasn’t uncommon back in the day. Democrats nominated Adlai Stevenson twice against Eisenhower; the GOP nominated Nixon in 1960 and then, successfully, in 1968. No former loser has gotten a second bite at the apple since then, though. Are the party’s benches deeper these days or is there more to it?

I think it may be more a function of people not wanting to run again than not being able to get re-nominated. Presidential campaigns have gotten much longer and much, much more expensive. Imagine spending two years under media klieg lights, traveling endlessly, begging the donor class for money ’round the clock, barking out the same talking points over and over, and enduring stomach-churning primaries — only to fall short in the presidential election and then have your supporters sneer that you’re a loser. Who’d want to risk going through that twice? My takeaway from “Mitt,” the documentary about Romney’s second campaign, was that the family really didn’t want to endure another campaign in 2012. They went through with it only because Mitt, as “next in line,” was the favorite for the nomination. His 2008 campaign fizzled in the primaries so he hadn’t had even one bite at the White House apple. He got that in 2012. I don’t think he can stomach another now that he’s approaching 70. And even if he could, notwithstanding his initial advantage in name recognition, which voters would want to roll the dice again on him after he got crushed by an incumbent whose first term had seen chronic eight-percent unemployment? Establishmentarians might back him because he’s a known quantity and has thrown a lot of money around to protect business-class Republicans from grassroots righties, but are primary voters really going to double down on Mr. “47 Percent”?

Seems to me that for someone to get re-nominated he’d need to be young and ambitious enough to be willing to run another excruciating two-year marathon and he’d need some plausible-ish argument that even though he lost the first time, he didn’t really lose. (Nixon, of course, lost only very narrowly to Kennedy in 1960.) There is, in fact, a guy like that out there:

Gore was under 60 in 2004, had universal name recognition as Clinton’s VP, and had won the popular vote four years earlier against Bush. He could have jumped in and made the case that President Gore would have kept us out of Iraq. He probably could have gotten re-nominated. Ross Douthat thinks Obama could have gotten re-nominated too had he lost a squeaker to McCain in 2008. That’s possible: He was even younger in 2012 than Gore was in 2004 and he certainly didn’t want for ambition. He could have recycled the racial-trailblazer appeal from his 2008 campaign by claiming that losing to McCain had merely deferred the dream and 2012 was the time to see it finally realized. Even then, though, I’m not sure he could have pulled it off: 2012 would have been Hillary’s turn. She would have used Obama’s 2008 loss as proof that the electorate wants someone in the White House as experienced as McCain and she would have had a trailblazer narrative of her own to sell. I’m not so sure O wins his rematch with her in that hypothetical. Gore was the best and maybe only hope for a repeat losing nominee over the last 40 years — and even Gore decided that the ordeal of running again was too much.

Exit question: If, inexplicably, both Hillary and Joe Biden end up passing next year, why not John Kerry 2.0? Better than Martin O’Malley 1.0, no? Or … Al Gore 2.0?


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A little reality here for you Rovicants. Romney has no chance. The base hates the GOP so much that if he runs against her THighness, he will be embarrassed in a landslide. I suspect he would get 30% of the vote. There will be talk about binders of women, about the 47%, and about his authoring of Obamacare. The GOP has burned its bridges. It’s done

Brock Robamney on July 3, 2014 at 7:10 PM

If Hillary doesn’t run, the Dem Nominee will be..

Mark Warner from Virginia

Ned Pepper on July 3, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Is he black? Is he gay? If not, then…uh, no.

The very idea that you think the Dems want a nominee who is qualified and capable is perplexing.

What ever made you think the Left is interested in any talent but that of promoting statist ideology?

Color and genderwhatever are useful in pushing that endevour; business chops not so much.

Dolce Far Niente on July 3, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Cory Booker will be the 2016 nominee

Redford on July 3, 2014 at 7:28 PM

I am glad to see that Romney is staying engaged in the GOP..:)

Dire Straits on July 3, 2014 at 7:33 PM

No. He had his chance and he wouldn’t fight. Does anyone think that Ted Cruz would have let Candy Crowley get away with her nonsense?

neyney on July 3, 2014 at 7:38 PM

I am glad to see that Romney is staying engaged in the GOP by supporting candidates and raising money..:)

Dire Straits on July 3, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Fixed for clarification..:)

Dire Straits on July 3, 2014 at 7:54 PM

The GOP has to pick a real wuss to run. Does anyone know if Steve Urkel is available?

Brock Robamney on July 3, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Is this a slow news day? I mean if this double talking & self-described “non-partisan progressive” and “severe conservative” somehow managed to get the nomination the base would revolt, would burn the place down, whatever they consider the place to be, it would burn. Many in the base wouldn’t just stay home but would vote for Hillary directly. Even mainstream conservatives would end up saying “you know what, we always say you have to at least hold your nose and vote for the Republican, but this is different, the renomination of Romney cannot be forgiven.” The Senate would be lost. The House… lost. All would be lost.

anotherJoe on July 3, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Brock Robamney on July 3, 2014 at 9:15 PM

No one has been chosen yet..Do you know something we don’t know??..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2014 at 12:40 AM

Romney’s wife had MS when he ran in 2012. Her condition has probably deteriorated since then and if she took a turn for the worse during the election, Romney would likely quit campaigning and lose again.

edrebber on July 4, 2014 at 1:30 AM

That said, I am not even sure who the “perfect” candidate is in most of these people’s minds. But I am pretty sure he hasn’t been born yet.

Marcus Traianus on July 3, 2014 at 3:55 PM

whenever the establishment’s milquetoast, “moderate” candidate isn’t beloved by all the GOP apologists come out and accuse of us requiring “perfection” in our candidates.

It is a tired, dishonest and stupid argument and makes you look like a fool.
[blah blah blah]
So, stick your claim that the reason people don’t like Romney because we are all a bunch of “purists” unwilling to see reason up your nether regions and go away.

Monkeytoe on July 3, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Can’t help but notice; that kind of, out of nowhere, insecurity borne, over the top vitriol isn’t the mark of someone who likes him or her self. In this case, with good reason.

V7_Sport on July 4, 2014 at 1:45 AM

Brock Robamney on July 3, 2014 at 9:15 PM

No one has been chosen yet..Do you know something we don’t know??..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2014 at 12:40 AM

I can assure you; he doesn’t.

V7_Sport on July 4, 2014 at 1:46 AM

No one has been chosen yet..Do you know something we don’t know??..:)
Dire Straits on July 4, 2014 at 12:40 AM

Apparently, I do. It’s called the GOP. Please see Presidential candidates from 1976, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2008, and 2012, and the brilliance of the candidate from 2000 & 2004, who brought us the Greatest President Evah.

Brock Robamney on July 4, 2014 at 5:11 AM

Surely we can come up with someone new or nearly so. It’s rumored that the Won is seeking out his clone to run since he knows what we now do that Killary is toast.

Kissmygrits on July 4, 2014 at 9:16 AM

So tired of having only the choice of the lesser of two evils.

Cripes, how about drafting a Romney- McCain ticket? ( just threw-up in my mouth a little)

If this is going to be about swinging that pendulum, why not go for an actual conservative?
Is that too much to ask?

B4B on July 4, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Brock Robamney on July 4, 2014 at 5:11 AM

Dubyah didn’t elect Obie..The folks did..There is your first clue..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2014 at 10:27 AM

I can assure you; he doesn’t.

V7_Sport on July 4, 2014 at 1:46 AM

..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2014 at 10:43 AM

norfolknway

FlushMitt.org

Nat George on July 4, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Dubyah didn’t elect Obie..The folks did..There is your first clue..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Bush43 was the first Republican President since 1932 to control both houses of Congress. He has a miserable failure on so many levels.

bw222 on July 4, 2014 at 11:33 AM

I have voted for Mitt many times in the past-i live in massachusetts-and would vote for him again.

But his time is past! he’s had his chances and come up short.

He says he’s not running and I believe him.

gerrym51 on July 4, 2014 at 11:48 AM

V7

As always. You are an idiot. I’ve run circles around you every time I’ve encountered your childish GOP apologist nonsense. You are so beaten down each time you have never, not once, offered an argument

You are an imbecile. I have no doubt you will one day commit suicide because you know how worthless you are.

But hey. Keep those broadsides coming. I’m sure they help you live another day.

Tell me again how the GOP is conservative add THIS TIME they will reduce spending, etc

What a dupe

Monkeytoe on July 4, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Realistically, can any losing presidential nominee get nominated again these days?

The real question is “Why the hell would we want to?

The Republican nominees in 2008 and 2012 (and 1996) were ridiculous choices – unless you think Republicans should 1) offer up the nomination to someone who has “waited their turn” or 2) be the Me-Too! version of the Democrats.

As to perfectionism? I just want someone who will actually stand on the (actual) principles of the Declaration and the Constitution and not apologize for the Judeo-Christian culture that has made Western Civilization in general and America in particular the greatest place to live on earth. Is that really too much to ask?

(And, yes, given the “47%”, it probably is too much to ask nowadays.)

GWB on July 4, 2014 at 12:53 PM

bw222 on July 4, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Sometimes you need more than crayons for these RoveRavers like v7 and his sock puppet Dire Straits

Brock Robamney on July 4, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Only if we want to lose again.
President Stevenson was not available for comment.

Another Drew on July 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM

We need a warrior to help us save ourselves and Mitt Romney isn’t it. I felt so angry watching him let Obama and his pets in the media run roughshod over him. I felt even angrier when I saw that documentary about him and realized the true depth of his insecurities. WHY did he run if he has so little faith in himself? WHY did the Repubs push him on us? I will never forgive them for that and I will never vote for another one. TEA PARTY OR NO ONE 2016.

blackgriffin on July 4, 2014 at 2:41 PM

Realistically, can any losing presidential nominee get nominated again these days?

The real question is “Why the hell would we want to?”

The Republican nominees in 2008 and 2012 (and 1996) were ridiculous choices – unless you think Republicans should 1) offer up the nomination to someone who has “waited their turn” or 2) be the Me-Too! version of the Democrats.

As to perfectionism? I just want someone who will actually stand on the (actual) principles of the Declaration and the Constitution and not apologize for the Judeo-Christian culture that has made Western Civilization in general and America in particular the greatest place to live on earth. Is that really too much to ask?

(And, yes, given the “47%”, it probably is too much to ask nowadays.)

GWB on July 4, 2014 at 12:53 PM
Though she wouldn’t win, Sarah Palin fits that criteria. …sigh
We sure as hell don’t need Romney to lose again!

Bakokitty on July 4, 2014 at 5:02 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/07/03/Morning-Joe-Predicts-Al-Gore-Jerry-Brown-as-Challengers-to-Hillary-in-2016

davidk on July 3, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Oh,,hell no! Jerry Brown has brought udder ruination to California , both in the the 1970s and now. We are still,paying for the corruption he inflicted on us in the 70s.
And Al Gore, double hell no! The biggest grifter of modern times. We don’t need the dumb and dumber team in charge! Ugh!

Bakokitty on July 4, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Monkeytoe on July 4, 2014 at 12:40 PM

V7

LOL! Cue the diva.

As always. You are an idiot.

Great counterpoint! Oh wait… no, you are an hysterical drama queen who has father issues.

I’ve run circles around you every time I’ve encountered your childish GOP apologist nonsense.

By pitching a Shelly Winters hissy fit? Yeah, that really racks up the debate points. (By the way, that was sarcasm again, I know that concept is something that you have a hard time grasping. )

You are so beaten down each time you have never, not once, offered an argument

Here’s an argument, when you introduce yourself to someone by saying: “It is a tired, dishonest and stupid argument and makes you look like a fool” as you did with someone upthread, it’s obviously more about your issues than it is about offering an argument.

You are an imbecile. .

Gee, my self worth was based on the opinion of a sputtering rageoholic internet troll. The punch line is, you aren’t even a particularly good troll.

I have no doubt you will one day commit suicide because you know how worthless you are

From the same crystal ball that continually advised that going through Obama is preferable to electing a Republican. Did pops call you “worthless”?

But hey. Keep those broadsides coming. I’m sure they help you live another day.

Poor thing, a “broadside”! Your compulsive, sputtering impotent rage that you come here to vent on anyone who thinks it’s probably best to get the democrats out of office and install the only viable other choice would be something other than a broadside…

Tell me again how the GOP is conservative add THIS TIME they will reduce spending, etc

Would be nice to have a budget. Tell me again that there is a snowballs chance in heII of your mokeytoe + the whomever you have browbeaten into voting for them political party is going to fix all this badness. Lets hear about the delusional pipedream from the rage-a-holic, and don’t spare the histrionics!

What a dupe

Said the third party cultist. You are evidentially a dupe unless you flush your vote down the drain.

V7_Sport on July 4, 2014 at 5:58 PM

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Global HAWK on July 4, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Vote Romney. He stands for nothing

Brock Robamney on July 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM

What? Good Lord.

scookam on July 4, 2014 at 7:59 PM

A bit caustic, huh?

V7_Sport on July 4, 2014 at 11:17 PM

bw222 on July 4, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Dubyah made some mistakes..But he also did some things right..He was a much better POTUS than Obie..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Brock Robamney on July 4, 2014 at 1:20 PM

I am not a sock puppet..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Vote Romney. He stands for nothing

Brock Robamney on July 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Romney is not running..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Romney only lost twice, why not lose a third time?

A tepid RINO has no chance of winning, but don’t tell the RNC that.

If we don’t get on the stick, no one decent will ever have a shot at winning.

We are running out of time.

Sherman1864 on July 5, 2014 at 6:54 AM

I want to make it known that I am not racist against sock puppets. Regardless of your color or fabric, whether you are cotton, nylon, or polyester, that is fine with me. I just ask when cornered, that you embrace your sock puppet ess, and not go all Romney as he did about the 47% comment. If you really want to hide your sockiness, please refrain from replying to your puppet masters beat down before 3 minutes have expired. When you respond to every post within 3 minutes, my sock puppet radar goes on. Please refer to the v7 and Dire Straits posts above. Regardless of what thread you are on at hot air, there is a predictable pattern appearing. This is cruelty to socks. Socks are abused more than Illegal immigrant children in an Obama meme. This must be stopped. Please save the socks!

Brock Robamney on July 5, 2014 at 7:01 AM

300 million folks in this country with out the family name of Bush, Clinton, Romney, Obama, Rockefeller, Kerry….

Maybe we ought to start the list by crossing the above off it.

Where to find the right candidate — Look to the governor’s offices in the fifty states, find one from each party who has met the Party’s platform, conservative or liberal, (and who does not have a career politician label…..

There we will find our two candidates — IMHO!!!

Pecozbill on July 5, 2014 at 10:31 AM

stupid question

With a president like this, even a doorknob is preferred over this prez.

anyone is better, and I do not make this point to belittle Mitt. In fact, pretty sure things would have been much much better with him. Not as good as with my favorite Sarah but for sure my head would not be spinning all the time

huntingmoose on July 5, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Brock Robamney on July 5, 2014 at 7:01 AM

*golf clap*..:)..That was an impressive post..:)..Please keep up the “good work”..:)

Dire Straits on July 5, 2014 at 2:16 PM


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Global HAWK on July 5, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Brock Robamney on July 5, 2014 at 7:01 AM

*golf clap*..:)..That was an impressive post..:)..Please keep up the “good work”///(sarc tag)..:)

Dire Straits on July 5, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Fixed for clarity..:):)

Dire Straits on July 5, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Global HAWK on July 5, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Huh? Competence?? The guy lost to Obama over Big Bird and Binders of Women. That puts him a notch below Obama.

Brock Robamney on July 5, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Dire Straits on July 5, 2014 at 9:25 PM

You should quit while you’re behind. Where’s v7? Does he know his socket puppet escaped from the sock drawer?

Brock Robamney on July 5, 2014 at 11:19 PM

You should quit while you’re behind. Where’s v7? Does he know his socket puppet escaped from the sock drawer?

Brock Robamney on July 5, 2014 at 11:19 PM

What am I behind on??..

PS..I’m not a sock..:)

Dire Straits on July 5, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Please refer to the v7 and Dire Straits posts above. Regardless of what thread you are on at hot air, there is a predictable pattern appearing. This is cruelty to socks.

Brock Robamney on July 5, 2014 at 7:01 AM

I don’t have a sock puppet. It would seem kind of rude to Ed to have a bunch of accounts. I strongly suspect all the people who line up to call you a moron are distinct, different human beings. While it may be more comforting to you to think that it’s only a single person with dozens of accounts who thinks you are a MOBY douche bag who is here to lose elections for the GOP and elect democrats, it’s not the case. The fact that you are a blinkered, half-whited, anti-Republican zealot is confirmed with the dozens of posts that you spam this forum with. I feel comfortable writing that for every person like Dire Straits who apparently thinks you are an asshat there are many more who just don’t bother to stomp on your idiocy because they don’t want to get asshat all over their shoes.
Give my regards to the rest of OFA, pajama boy.

V7_Sport on July 5, 2014 at 11:50 PM

What am I behind on??..

PS..I’m not a sock..:)

Dire Straits on July 5, 2014 at 11:40 PM

LOL, posting this close to each other is just going to short circuit his little brain.
Maybe we could convince him that we are the entire internet.

V7_Sport on July 5, 2014 at 11:53 PM

V7_Sport on July 5, 2014 at 11:53 PM

LoLz..:)

PS..February of 2009 model..:)

Dire Straits on July 6, 2014 at 12:02 AM

Used to think that only democrats called others names; then used to think that some deserved it; now think we are sure losers when we call fellow repubs names. Sad to see most of you criticize the same tactics that you are now using. I call for a bomb on all of Washington. Let’s start over and try to unite behind a cause because my way or the hiway does not work.

AReadyRepub on July 6, 2014 at 12:30 AM

Dire a sock?!?! Lolz!!! ; )

Bmore on July 6, 2014 at 9:00 AM

V7_Sport on July 5, 2014 at 11:50 PM

Well then, since you are this fountain of knowledge, please define what a Republican is. I honestly don’t know, so how can I be Anti Republican? As a matter of fact, no one knows. Which explains why they keep losing election after election. The GOP used to be for small government and lowering taxes. So if you are saying that the GOP stands for growing government, then yes, I am Anti Republican just like the millions who stayed home in 2008 & 2012. Are you now saying that you are Ed’s sock puppet? Why would it be rude to him?

Brock Robamney on July 7, 2014 at 8:04 AM

Dire a sock?!?! Lolz!!! ; )
Bmore on July 6, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Yes. Argyle in fact. Possibly polyester, maybe cotton.

Brock Robamney on July 7, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Brock Robamney on July 7, 2014 at 11:55 AM

LoLz..Don’t stop believeing..:)

Dire Straits on July 7, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Brock Robamney on July 7, 2014 at 8:04 AM

Well then, since you are this fountain of knowledge,

I do know how to use a web browser.

please define what a Republican is.

This works after a fashion. This is the platform. Are you going to read any of that or do you want me to author a popup book on what it is to be a republican?

I honestly don’t know,

So how is it that you are comfortable declaring the party dead and that it is betraying everyone and the root of all evil if you “honestly don’t know” what a Republican even is? Why would you post here? I honestly don’t know how to cook well. It’s not that it would be an impossibility for me to learn how to, but I haven’t. Knowing that, I wouldn’t go on a cooking website and presume to lecture people, over and over about what they need to do in order to prepare a meal. If you honestly don’t know what a republican is then you probably should lift a finger or 2 to find that out for yourself before you declare certain ones to be lacking in their credentials as a Republican.

so how can I be Anti Republican?

You can take to the web and post “look at me” and “who’s with me!” and “am I right, guys” posts.. pretty much the same ones over and over, regardless of the actual topic. You might have gotten an “atta boy” back in the dark old days of Arlen Spector, but it’s become pretty tired.
Maybe if you were to actually learn what it is that you are continually pouring scorn on you could come up with some better material. I’ll be the first to admit that the GOP has and will continue to provide an educated critic with plenty of ammunition to legitimately criticize them.

As a matter of fact, no one knows.

See, right there. That’s an assumption built on ignorance. It’s wrong. See the links.
Which explains why they keep losing election after election.
Well no, no it doesn’t. You just wrote that; because no one knows what a Republican is they lose elections. I guess that means that the Democrats win because people know what a democrat is. When you write stuff like that it makes anyone with a triple digit IQ embarrassed for you. It’s a logical non sequitur with a premise borne of ignorance.

The GOP used to be for small government and lowering taxes.

Great news! They still are! (See the platform link above) The obvious issue is that they don’t always live up to their ideals, so now what? Instead of holding the GOP accountable should we empower the Chicago political machine to gang-rape the country? That’s essentially what you have been advocating. How’s that small government working for you? How’s that ANYTHING working for you?

So if you are saying that the GOP stands for growing government, then yes, I am Anti Republican just like the millions who stayed home in 2008 & 2012.

If you stayed at home or did your best to persuade others to do so or flush their vote there is effectively no difference between you and a democrat. (something else that you are going to have to look up) Let me amend that, they weren’t so lazy that they wouldn’t go out and work for the government that they want, a big one with high taxes to make things more “fair”.

Are you now saying that you are Ed’s sock puppet?

No, I am not Ed’s sock puppet. I just got an “I ate ice-cream too fast” headache trying to figure out how you got that from what I wrote.

Why would it be rude to him?

Filling up his site with the same BS from a slew of sock puppets to promote the idea (usually that the way to conservative principles is to elect socialists) is disingenuous. I suppose from his point of view it would be a balance between blog hits and BS, regardless, I can shovel enough with one account and any argument I make can stand on it’s own without the phony and usually obvious backing of socks.

V7_Sport on July 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

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