Former SecState with presidential ambitions can’t tell the players in UK?

posted at 12:41 pm on July 3, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

When I first saw this clip earlier today, I was inclined to dismiss it. After all, plenty of people make the mistake Hillary Clinton does in this interview with BBC Radio today. The interviewer asks the former Secretary of State to gauge the strength of the “special relationship” between the US and the UK, and offers a rather insipid answer that applies to nearly all of our allies in the West. But it’s the apparent ignorance of the UK’s political parties from a woman who served for four years as America’s chief diplomat that got the buzz (via TWS and NRO):

BBC: So how special is the special relationship?

CLINTON: It is so special to me, personally, and I think it is very special between our countries. There’s just a — not just a common language — but a common set of values that we can fall back on. It doesn’t matter in our country whether it’s a Republican or Democrat, or frankly in your country whether it’s a Conservative or a Tory. There is a level of trust and understanding. It doesn’t mean we always agree because of course we don’t.

In case you don’t get the joke, the Tories are the Conservatives in the UK. Their other major political parties are Labour and Liberal Democrats, which means this is another way in which the comparison is a bit inapt. That confusion shouldn’t surprise anyone who recalls this gem from then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton shortly after assuming that position in March 2009:

“I have never understood multiparty democracy.

“It is hard enough with two parties to come to any resolution, and I say this very respectfully, because I feel the same way about our own democracy, which has been around a lot longer than European democracy.”

Let’s not forget that most Western democracies use parliamentary systems with three or more major parties, including our two closest allies, the UK and Canada. So does the system we set up in Iraq. They’re not terribly exotic or difficult to understand at all, at least not functionally, although they may take slightly more work to study than the US two-party system. At the very least, they’re easy to recognize.

On the whole, though, I figured that fumbling on Conservatives vs Tories was a momentary and extemporaneous brain fade more than a display of actual ignorance. The answer itself is strange even apart from that. The BBC didn’t ask why the relationship was special to Hillary Clinton, but what the status of the relationship was between the US and UK. Clinton begins with a weird celebration of the special relationship as being super-special to herself, and then describes it in terms that are about as generic as one can possibly imagine. “Common set of values … level of trust and understanding,” as if that doesn’t describe nearly every close alliance in history between nations. It all but declares that the US-UK alliance isn’t special at all; I doubt that answer gives any confidence to most of the BBC’s listeners.

National Journal’s Alex Seitz-Wald thought the comment should have drawn more attention than it did, especially in the British press:

Maybe they’re just used to the fact that Hillary Clinton doesn’t understand multiparty democracy, and/or doesn’t apparently recall that the UK has such a system.

Update: Edited the final sentence for better clarity.


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Bmore

Schadenfreude on July 3, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Schadenfreude

Bmore on July 3, 2014 at 6:01 PM

How are you, my friend? Miss you, and a few others, much.

Schadenfreude on July 3, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Bmore, you were right, on the clicks, counts and etc.

Schadenfreude on July 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Leave Hillary alone! (NSFW)

The poor lady has a nagging head injury, a cheating husband, an unemployed daughter, and she’s dead broke to boot.

What’s more, the poor dear surrendered her law license to prevent it being suspended, so she can’t even get any more child rapists off, even just for laughs.

But you people keep asking her all these questions and complaining about her paltry little speaking fees that are all that keep her off the streets!

Mean people suck! Leave Hillary alone!!!!!!!11!!

Adjoran on July 3, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Marco Polo had amassed a lot of mileage too.

Schadenfreude on July 3, 2014 at 6:06 PM

I’m well as is Miss Lamar. Our 30th. We are enjoying the down time immensely. Happy Independence day my friend, ahead of time, in case I don’t see you tomorrow. ; )

Bmore on July 3, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Congratulations to both of you, and at least 30 more.

Not “independence” of late, more and more, but making best of, watching it burn.

Schadenfreude on July 3, 2014 at 6:12 PM

pro tip for the incoming Hillary Administration -

When you go to London to “Reset” relations with the Brits, the cheap toy reset button should be printed with the letters S, O, D and then O, F, F.

This should get you the results you ultimately desire.
You’re welcome.

dissent555 on July 3, 2014 at 7:14 PM

On the whole, though, I figured that fumbling on Conservatives vs Tories was a momentary and extemporaneous brain fade more than a display of actual ignorance.

Nope. It’s actual.

No better than her former boss.

IrishEyes on July 3, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Empty pantsuit.

forest on July 3, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Full pantload.

Fixed.

GrannyDee on July 3, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Leave Hillary alone!…

The poor lady has a nagging head injury, a cheating husband, an unemployed daughter, and she’s dead broke to boot.

What’s more, the poor dear surrendered her law license to prevent it being suspended, so she can’t even get any more child rapists off, even just for laughs.

But you people keep asking her all these questions and complaining about her paltry little speaking fees that are all that keep her off the streets!

Adjoran on July 3, 2014 at 6:05 PM

LOL

Bless her heart.

itsnotaboutme on July 3, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Marco Polo had amassed a lot of mileage too.

Schadenfreude on July 3, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Genghis Khan also comes to mind.

itsnotaboutme on July 3, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Just call her Cankles. Its her best feature.

BobMbx on July 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Hillary’s biggest boner here is the claim that European democracy is younger than American democracy:

I feel the same way about our own democracy, which has been around a lot longer than European democracy.

Sweetheart, England was a constitutional monarchy, where the King was subordinate to Parliament, by the early 1700s, and when did the European continent get redrawn to exclude Greece? Holy cow.

Alec on July 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM

I feel the same way about our own democracy, which has been around a lot longer than European democracy.

Sweetheart, England was a constitutional monarchy, where the King was subordinate to Parliament, by the early 1700s, and when did the European continent get redrawn to exclude Greece? Holy cow.

Alec on July 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Hey, back off. Thats the way she remembers it.

BobMbx on July 3, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Was gonna write a comment but what’s the use.

Sherman1864 on July 3, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Maybe they’re just used to the fact that Hillary Clinton doesn’t understand multiparty democracy, and/or doesn’t apparently recall that the UK has such a system.

Maybe all the pols have seen the MI6 memo noting Hillary’s brain damage resulting from her fall and, like most, don’t want to pick on the disabled.

Dusty on July 3, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Hi Schady!

Wing Chun Man on July 3, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Someone give her a birth control pill so she can think correctly.

SouthernGent on July 3, 2014 at 9:57 PM

as a woman, I am all for having a woman elected as president someday, just not this one. Please, let it not be this one. she is most definitely not who I want to represent this country as the first woman president of the USA, she would be an embarrassment. there must be some way this country can discourage any of the Clintons to become part of our government again, right? I dont think I could bear another 4-8 yrs of another elite out of touch entitled bunch of phony self centered narcissistic aristocrats in control of this country, and that is exactly what the Clinton’s are. Make them go away, the man was impeached for crying out loud, why should anyone let his wife put him back in the White House?

scalleywag on July 3, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Rode Scholar.

Christien on July 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Rode Scholar.

Christien on July 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Rode Hard and Put Up Wet Scholar.

Christien on July 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM

FIFY

Dolce Far Niente on July 3, 2014 at 11:32 PM

What difference, at this point, does it make?

307wolverine on July 4, 2014 at 1:11 AM

Yet they all claim that Governor Sarah Palin is stupid. She looks like Albert Einstein in comparison to Secretary Hillary Clinton and Mr. Barack “Speak Austrian” Obama.

Sandbear on July 4, 2014 at 4:23 AM

This is unforgivable

Just what is wrong with america’s elites lately, how misinformed and dumb can you get!?; and this, with the most extensive spying apparatus in history too (NSA etc.)

Just how hard is it to know all 3-4 parties in England ffs, the mother country and your top 3 closest ally (canada might be 1st, although we cant tell anymore, thank you for the Keystone non-decision..)

Jesus…

JMG

Gauthijm on July 4, 2014 at 6:46 AM

First the book and now this. What’s the smartest woman in the world to do.

Kissmygrits on July 4, 2014 at 9:20 AM

We have so many posts of the day I can’t choose:
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pro tip for the incoming Hillary Administration -
When you go to London to “Reset” relations with the Brits, the cheap toy reset button should be printed with the letters S, O, D and then O, F, F.
dissent555 on July 3, 2014 at 7:14 PM
……………………
Leave Hillary alone! (NSFW)

The poor lady has a nagging head injury, a cheating husband, an unemployed daughter, and she’s dead broke to boot.

What’s more, the poor dear surrendered her law license to prevent it being suspended, so she can’t even get any more child rapists off, even just for laughs
…………………………………
Marco Polo had amassed a lot of mileage too.
Schadenfreude on July 3, 2014 at 6:06 PM
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Empty pantsuit.
forest on July 3, 2014 at 1:08 PM
Full pantload.
Fixed.
GrannyDee on July 3, 2014 at 7:43 PM
………………..
Just call her Cankles. Its her best feature.
BobMbx on July 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM
……………..
Maybe all the pols have seen the MI6 memo noting Hillary’s brain damage resulting from her fall and, like most, don’t want to pick on the disabled.
Dusty on July 3, 2014 at 9:01 PM
………………
Rode Scholar.
Christien on July 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM
Rode Hard and Put Up Wet Scholar.
Christien on July 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM
…………….
What difference, at this point, does it make?
307wolverine on July 4, 2014 at 1:11 AM
………..
You guys are definitely the best.

rodguy911 on July 4, 2014 at 11:46 AM

What an incredible disgrace to this country! Terrible that shillary and oba-mao seem to be the face of this once great republic. It’s the 4th of July, so everybody needs to fly the flag. I think there are two on my street. What a GD shame! Sad……

ultracon on July 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM

What difference does it make-think in action.

Sherman1864 on July 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Took a look at the report on the Bill , Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation. First the 80 plus pages is well be on my 1 year of accounting I took 30 years ago. Still I find a few things interesting. First Bill and Hillary have not one thing to do with it other then to lend their names. Second either Bill and Hilary are the greatest people the world has ever known OR it is a big tax scam money laundering operation. There are a multitude of ways to get money in to the hands of the Clintons without any need for verification or reporting. Chelsea is a non-paid member of the Board of Directors and puts in some 30-60 hr per week. This give Bill and Hillary voting rites by proxy for the disbursement of funds and payment of bills.

jpcpt03 on July 5, 2014 at 12:12 PM


……………………………………………………………………..
Hillary Clinton’s IMPOVERISHED Claims
……………………………………………………………………..
Clintons pretend not to be enormously RICH
Clinton’s BIZARRE sense of FINANCIAL vulnerability

Since Clinton hasn’t shown off any innovative ideas
or policy solutions right now, she is
riding on her persona. She better have a back-up plan.

When it comes to the Clintons —
they don’t BELIEVE they are like everyone else
(fly commercial?! shop for sales?!) and yet
they feel compelled to PRETEND so.

……………………………………………………………………..

Hillary Clinton left the White House with a tidy
$8 million book advance.

Their finances surely improved from 2000-2008.
“Former President Bill Clinton and Senator Hillary
Rodham Clinton earned a combined $109 million
between 2000 and 2007 and paid $33.8 million in
federal taxes.”

Between 2008 and 2012, Bill Clinton got his
annual $200,000 presidential pension and gave
speeches on a regular basis; Hillary Clinton drew
her salary as secretary of state, about $200,000
per year. Bill Clinton released a book in 2011,
with an undisclosed advance.
The advance for Hillary Clinton’s just-published
memoir was pegged at $13 million to $14 million.
That still didn’t stop her quest for more income.

Hillary Clinton has been giving six-figure speeches
since she left the State Department, accepting
the largess of all sorts of private financial interests.

So when is ENOUGH money, you know, ENOUGH ?

Why would Hillary Clinton claim POVERTY
with an income record like that?

What motivates her and why she apparently
has felt so DEPRIVED while living in the lap of LUXURY.

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Right Turn: June, 2014
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blog/right-turn/Archive/201406

Jennifer Rubin writes the Right Turn blog
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/
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http://www.ZeroHEDGE.COM

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http://www.RealClearPOLITICS.com

http://www.RealClearMARKETS.com
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When the Defaults Come, So Will the Wealth Grab

The biggest problem with the epic
Central Bank rig of the last five years is that

propping up a BANKRUPT FINANCIAL SYSTEM
by PRINTING MONEY only works for so long.

http://www.ZeroHEDGE.com/news/2014-07-04/when-defaults-come-so-will-wealth-grab

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Global HAWK on July 6, 2014 at 4:27 PM

My current favorite of the crooked charities is the BILL, HILLARY ETC. foundation. It is nothing but a money machine Tax scam. Only place I know of that you can buy an autographed <a href="My current favorite of the crooked charities is the BILL, HILLARY ETC. foundation. It is nothing but a money machine Tax scam. Only place I know of that you can buy an autographed bowling pin for $400.00

http://www.clintonmuseumstore.com/store/WJC-ABP%21WJC/AUTOGRAPHED+%3A+Bowling+Pin“>bowling pin for $400.00

jpcpt03 on July 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

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