In defense of Chris Christie’s Hobby Lobby non-answer and the modest presidency

posted at 3:11 pm on July 2, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Chris Christie is running for president in 2016. That is perhaps why his seemingly evasive response when asked for an opinion on the recent Supreme Court decision in the Hobby Lobby case was so disconcerting for many on the right.

In a heated exchange with CNBC’s Squawk Box hosts on Tuesday, the New Jersey governor defended his pro-life views under a withering barrage of questions about how that point of view may “bog him down” with the broader electorate, and whether he or other Republicans “should run on taking away the right to choose” from women.

When asked if he thought the Court was correct when they invalidated the Affordable Care Act’s birth control mandate for some companies on the basis that it violated the 1992 Restoration of Freedom of Religion Act, Christie ran afoul of conservatives when he replied, “Who knows?”

“The fact is that, when you’re an executive, you’re Supreme Court makes a ruling and you’ve got to live with it unless you get the legislative body to change the law or change the constitution,” he added. “Why should I give an opinion on whether they’re right or wrong? At the end of the day, they did what they did.”

“I don’t think that’s the most central issue that we need to talk about this morning, when you look at the challenges that face our country,” Christie said. “And, if I allow people to put me in that box, shame on me. I’m not a good politician, and I’m not a good leader.”

Many other prospective 2016 candidates with widely divergent views on social matters, including Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Marco Rubio (R-FL), and Rand Paul (R-KY), all issued positive statements on the Court’s ruling just hours after it was announced on Monday. Christie’s delayed and divergent opinion on the case, or lack thereof, prompted a barrage of scornful rebukes from conservatives.

National Review’s Jonah Goldberg called Christie’s response “lame” and “disappointing.” AllahPundit chided the Garden State governor for “yammering on about what executives are supposed to do when a court rules, as if he’s addressing a leadership seminar.” Conservative author and radio host Tammy Bruce reflected on Christie’s comments and mused simply, “Jackass.”

This response from the right is understandable. At best, Christie displayed uncharacteristic and dubious caution about weighing in on this divisive social issue. At worst, he was demonstrating a penchant for slippery equivocation.

Moreover, conservatives are not predisposed to extend New Jersey’s governor the benefit of the doubt on social policy, regardless of his personal views on the morality of abortion. From the governor’s position on access to firearms in New Jersey, to his views on Islam in America, to his state’s ballooning debt, to his infamous embrace of President Barack Obama in the wake of Hurricane Sandy; conservatives generally don’t trust that Christie is “one of us.”

These are all valid concerns, but the latest – centering on his decision to keep his opinions on Hobby Lobby to himself – is not. Christie’s response to this question was perfectly legitimate, centering as it did on his understanding of enumerated powers. In the executive, the president’s opinion on Supreme Court decisions matters less than does the opinion of members of the congressional leadership who alone have the power to reverse them.

However unlikely, given Christie’s fondness for bombast, his position could just as easily have been interpreted as an indication of his intention to return the executive to its rightful place in American politics and reversing the presidency’s monarchical drift. That is, after all, the sort of president conservatives have long said they desire.

Early in the Obama presidency, amid a surge of public sector activism, conservatives of many ideological stripes rediscovered one of America’s least activist commanders-in-chief: Calvin Coolidge. A flurry of renewed interest the hands-off style of America’s 30th president prompted conservative columnists and politicians to laud “silent Cal’s” republican, unadorned presidency. Though offering a somewhat idealized version of Coolidge’s philosophy, conservatives of a variety of ideological stripes longed for a return to his preference for noninterventionist government and his apparent belief that he could rarely improve the silence.

A passage from The Encyclopedia of the American Presidency best illustrates Coolidge’s habit of frustrating journalists with his caution.

During the 1924 presidential campaign, a reporter asked him: “Have you any statement on the campaign?” “No,” replied Coolidge. “Can you tell us something about the world situation?” asked another. “No.” “Any information about Prohibition?” “No.” When reporters started to leave, Coolidge said solemnly: “Now, remember – don’t quote me.”

It is clear today that conservatives appreciate Coolidge’s thoughtful restraint in theory far more than in practice. After years of nearly unprecedented and divisive activism from the White House, culminating Obama’s brutal 2012 reelection campaign based on fracturing of Americans on the basis of race, sexuality, gender, and class, conservatives seem more interested in settling scores.

This is a forgivable impulse, but it is counterproductive. The strain of libertarian thought coursing through the country as faith in the ability and competency of government erodes heavily favors the conservative approach toward financial and budgetary matters. The president’s self-evident failure to safeguard American interests abroad and restore prosperity at home has renewed the public’s faith in Republicans as stewards of the nation’s affairs.

“Democrats are counting on the president’s edge on social issues to make up for a weak economy,” Politico reported in June of 2012. In the end, it did. In the immediate wake of that shocking loss, Republicans seemed comfortable declaring, as former Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels advised in 2010, a “truce” on social matters in order to fight political battles on more favorable ground. That sentiment has disappeared in the intervening years.

A conservative president can never pursue or advance through the power of example conservative social policy if he or she is never elected to office. Many on the right seem more contented to go down swinging so long as they maintain their principled integrity in the process. Democratic candidates for high office, meanwhile, evidence no such scruples. They run as moderates and govern as liberals, and the Overton Window shifts ever further to the left in the process. It is time for Republicans to think a bit more strategically, pick their battles, disband the circular firing squads, and leave the ideological litmus tests to the left.

Chris Christie didn’t stumble when he refused to offer an opinion on Hobby Lobby. In fact, in the definitional sense, he was acting like a conservative.


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In 2012 I’d have walked precincts for him. In 2016 I wouldn’t even drive to the polls for him. What a self-centered fool he turned into (or perhaps just turned out to be).

SoRight on July 2, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Oh boy…..

can_con on July 2, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Chris Christie: The Thad Cochran of New Jersey

burrata on July 2, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Noah Rothman: carrying the RINO Flag over here at Hot Air, huh?

cdog0613 on July 2, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Chris Christie = Calvin Coolidge?

I will say, “Silent Chris” would be a nice change.

de rigueur on July 2, 2014 at 3:16 PM

In the executive, the president’s opinion on Supreme Court decisions matters less than does the opinion of members of the congressional leadership who alone have the power to reverse them.

It would be nice to get an idea of what kind of Judges he’d nominate.

Flange on July 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM

meh…
a squish defends a squish.
bet if you all tried hard enough you could get megan mcain to write here too.

dmacleo on July 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM

During the 1924 presidential campaign, a reporter asked him: “Have you any statement on the campaign?” “No,” replied Coolidge. “Can you tell us something about the world situation?” asked another. “No.” “Any information about Prohibition?” “No.” When reporters started to leave, Coolidge said solemnly: “Now, remember – don’t quote me.”

Coolidge was fat, too, so the comparison is apt.

Joseph K on July 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM

The good lord knows we don’t have enough Christie supporting/defending articles at Hotair.

kpguru on July 2, 2014 at 3:21 PM

Actually, I can’t get worked up about Christie not angering 50% of the population by stating an opinion that won’t make any difference or change any outcome. In this case, not saying anything is his best option.

Not that I would ever vote for him.

RoadRunner on July 2, 2014 at 3:22 PM

This is…….HA.(James Earl Jones voice)

d1carter on July 2, 2014 at 3:22 PM

dmacleo on July 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Six of one half a dozen of another .

Lucano on July 2, 2014 at 3:23 PM

AP never was a RINO; he’s just not a down-the-line conservative, which is just fine with me.

Noah is definitely the resident RINO at HotAir. He also needs some writing and grammar lessons.

Splashman on July 2, 2014 at 3:23 PM

I’ve been noticing a trend here at HotAir – a trend which appears to show that HA is leaning towards the establishment.

MoreLiberty on July 2, 2014 at 3:24 PM

“The fact is that, when you’re an executive, you’re Supreme Court makes a ruling and you’ve got to live with it unless you get the legislative body to change the law or change the constitution,” he added. “Why should I give an opinion on whether they’re right or wrong?

Why should you give an opinion? Oh, i dunno, maybe because if you actually want the legislative body to change a law the first thing you need to do is, ya know, give an opinion on how you want the law changed. Kinda hard to change a law when you won’t tell people how you want the law changed, or keep a law if you don’t say you want it kept.

clearbluesky on July 2, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Six of one half a dozen of another .

Lucano on July 2, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Christie: Mmmmmmm donuts…

2lbsTest on July 2, 2014 at 3:25 PM

As a staunch Conservative, I can say with absolute certainty that Christie will NEVER get my vote.

So, given that, I really don’t care what he says or doesn’t say.

Meople on July 2, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Calvin coolidge was not fat

terryannonline on July 2, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Ugh, remind me again why Noah was brought to this blog.

Bravesbill on July 2, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Noah Rothman: carrying the RINO Progressive Flag over here at Hot Air, huh?!!!

cdog0613 on July 2, 2014 at 3:16 PM

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I could name the trolls on here who, on any given day, would make the same convoluted argument that by showing a spine of jelly and a complete vacuum of principles Christie is OBVIOUSLY the ONE for GOP 2016!

And at least, in theory, they aren’t receiving a paycheck from Salem Communications.

PolAgnostic on July 2, 2014 at 3:27 PM

After years of nearly unprecedented and divisive activism from the White House, culminating Obama’s brutal 2012 reelection campaign based on fracturing of Americans on the basis of race, sexuality, and religion, conservatives seem more interested in settling scores.

Settling scores? How about individual liberty and upholding the U.S. Constitution? If Chris Christie can’t support a SCOTUS ruling that defends the First Amendment and existing federal law (RFRA) – rather than an overreaching HHS regulation – then I don’t want any part of his candidacy.

TarheelBen on July 2, 2014 at 3:28 PM

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/223437/reagans-darkest-hour/paul-kengor

Reagan.

Roe v. Wade.

That is all…

cs89 on July 2, 2014 at 3:28 PM

That’s a lot of wordage wasted on Obama’s most useful bootlicking photo op.

coca on July 2, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Chris Christie: The Thad Cochran of New Jersey

burrata on July 2, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Speaking of Thad….wondering when Hot Air will finally get around to covering the scandal?

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 3:30 PM

“Don’t ask me no questions and I’ll tell you no lies….”

viking01 on July 2, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Chris Christie = Calvin Coolidge?

de rigueur on July 2, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Silent Cal wasn’t afraid to express his opinion, but he did control the urge to yammer at every opportunity.

Christie likes to yammer, always has. Which is why his “no opinion” schtick is a crock of triangulating sh!t.

Politics causes brain damage. When I was young and foolish, I believed it was only Libs, but it affects essentially every long-term politician. The exceedingly rare exceptions prove the rule.

Splashman on July 2, 2014 at 3:30 PM

“The fact is that, when you’re an executive, you’re Supreme Court makes a ruling and you’ve got to live with it unless you get the legislative body to change the law or change the constitution,” he added. “Why should I give an opinion on whether they’re right or wrong?

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Taking “Leading From Behind” in a WHOLE new direction!

‘Cause that’s what we need NOW – to double down on STUPID

Any truth to the rumor that Noah Rothman is the love child of Eleanor Clift and Paul Krugman?

PolAgnostic on July 2, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Noah – there was no truce – even though socons mispresented what DAniels said. The left has no desire to declare a truce. Christie is well within his right to choose to answer what he chooses to answer – but unlike some situations this suit came as a direct result of federal executive branch rule making – so his opinion is important in determining his viability as a presidential candidate. If he wasn’t widely thought to a 2016 candidate, no one would of asked him his views on the matter.

Weak, very weak. His answer could have been very simple. “The contraception order by HHS was a foolish attempt by this president to try and order that citizens lose their right to enjoy the practice civil liberties under the consitution when they start a business. This was nothing more than a political ploy to feed the false and disengenuous war on women stunt this administration brings up all the time. What is most disturbing is that four justices took a plain reading of settled law, and found a way to support the president. I am not sure what that says about the Supreme Court, but it suggests some of them are not fullfilling their obligation to their oath of office. This just demonstrates that the federal govt has grown too large and is meddling in concerns that they have no business being in. Simply put we had to take a case all the way to the supreme court because too many people think they have the RIGHT – the RIGHT mind you – to have their employer to be forced to give them free contraception.”

That is what is crazy – 4 justices voted against this. Christie has no prayer.

Zomcon JEM on July 2, 2014 at 3:32 PM

Sorry, Noah, but no. It was a political juke* to the subject. It didn’t have anything to do with his understanding of the Constitutional separation of powers, it had everything to do with political viability. Which makes him a squish for the most part.

clearbluesky on July 2, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Exactly.

I’m beginning to concur with a lot of folks tossing the RINO appelation Noah’s way.

GWB on July 2, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Chris Christie didn’t stumble when he refused to offer an opinion on Hobby Lobby. In fact, in the definitional sense, he was acting like a conservative.

You obviously have no idea what a Conservative even is, so you’ll excuse me if I don’t take YOUR word for it, mmmkay?

Meople on July 2, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Update on this: McDaniel camp now has 4900 double votes as per 2:00 PM.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3175204/posts

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Oops, forgot my footnote:
* Does anyone use “juke” anymore when speaking of a running back swiveling and moving to avoid tackles? (Which does provide for a really funny image of Christie…….)

GWB on July 2, 2014 at 3:36 PM

In a heated exchange with CNBC’s Squawk Box hosts on Tuesday, the New Jersey governor defended his pro-life views under a withering barrage of questions about how that point of view may “bog him down” with the broader electorate, and whether he or other Republicans “should run on taking away the right to choose” from women.

See now, if I was in an interview with a network and they started euphemism crap like that I’d immediately talk over them, loudly, and say the word “abortion.” “You mean abortion, . I have no tolerance for euphemisms. This topic requires at a minimum we’re discussing the issue of deliberately ending a distinct human life.”

If the host repeats the euphemism, I correct them again – each time adding an additional point about the sanctity and dignity of human life until the host either drops the issue or submits.

BKennedy on July 2, 2014 at 3:36 PM

When it comes to defending fundamental constitutional rights I don’t want a modest presidency.

Mark1971 on July 2, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Give Christie a break. Since they took away his helicopter and limo, he’s a bit outta breath…

Gohawgs on July 2, 2014 at 3:37 PM

I don’t like the rhino Christy, but that was a very good answer.

The strain of libertarian thought coursing through the country as faith in the ability and competency of government erodes heavily favors the conservative approach toward financial and budgetary matters.

Our founders knew that the government does not deserve to have “faith in (its) ability and competency”. Only fools would think otherwise, but this is a nation of fools which is why it is now a socialist surveillance police state run by a fascist. Our detractors might say, “F the USA!” I’d tell them its already been done by our own people.

earlgrey on July 2, 2014 at 3:38 PM

You really stepped in it deep and showed your political standing by defending the cowardice of this useless a**hole Christie… Even if God endorses Christie he still will not be the Republican nominee…

mnjg on July 2, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Oops, forgot my footnote:
* Does anyone use “juke” anymore when speaking of a running back swiveling and moving to avoid tackles? (Which does provide for a really funny image of Christie…….)

GWB on July 2, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Pretty sure “juke” was labeled as a “dog whistle” by Tingles at some point. So, by all means, use it as much as you possibly CAN.

Meople on July 2, 2014 at 3:39 PM

This response from the right is understandable.

Well, then shut up and go write about something that matters, why don’t you, eh Noah?

JannyMae on July 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Puahahaha, okay Noah.

jawkneemusic on July 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM

… his position could just as easily have been interpreted as an indication of his intention to return the executive to its rightful place in American politics and reversing the presidency’s monarchical drift. That is, after all, the sort of president conservatives have long said they desire.

Yes, because potential candidates for the highest office in the land shouldn’t have an opinion on constitutional matters related to the most controversial legislation yet passed in this century as ruled on by the highest court in the land.

What a load of sh**, Rothman.

M240H on July 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM

BKennedy on July 2, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Just call it baby-killing because even the term abortion dances around the edges of what’s going on.

viking01 on July 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Message: I don’t care.

Fair or not.

After all, you can express an opinion without committing yourself to a course of action.

In fact, that’s what politicians are known for.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 2, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Wow, I never thought I’d say this, but I guess I’m going to have to start looking at the authors of the articles on HA so I can start weeding out and ignoring the ones by Rothman.

Meople on July 2, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Bring back Malkin.

Buckshots on July 2, 2014 at 3:43 PM

We used to get important stories about government energy and environmental policy. Now we get this.

Mark1971 on July 2, 2014 at 3:46 PM

When it comes to defending fundamental constitutional rights I don’t want a modest presidency.

Mark1971 on July 2, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Bumper Sticker.

AesopFan on July 2, 2014 at 3:47 PM

These are all valid concerns, but the latest – centering on his decision to keep his opinions on Hobby Lobby to himself – is not. Christie’s response to this question was perfectly legitimate, centering as it did on his understanding of enumerated powers. In the executive, the president’s opinion on Supreme Court decisions matters less than does the opinion of members of the congressional leadership who alone have the power to reverse them.

President’s pick Supreme Court Nominees.
It is perfectly acceptable to expect presidential candidates to offer opinions on highly charged Supreme Court rulings as it gives insight into what type of justice they would potentially nominate.

Given Christie’s own controversial judicial nominations in New Jersey, it is no wonder that he doesn’t want to give us any insight into the type of judge he would nominate for the highest court in the land.

In short, this is an issue no matter how much hand waiving you attempt.

airupthere on July 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Has Noah Rothman yet written a single article that indicates he is in any way a conservative?

Shump on July 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM

In defense of Chris Christie’s Hobby Lobby non-answer and the modest presidency

No.

airupthere on July 2, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Noah Rothman:
Another perfect fit into Tepid Air’s “go along to get along” motif.
Michelle Malkin would be spinning in her grave if she was dead.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on July 2, 2014 at 3:49 PM

I am glad we will not have to live through President Christie’s “modest” supreme court nominees.

airupthere on July 2, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Yes, because potential candidates for the highest office in the land shouldn’t have an opinion on constitutional matters related to the most controversial legislation yet passed in this century as ruled on by the highest court in the land.

What a load of sh**, Rothman.

M240H on July 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM

This ^^^

melle1228 on July 2, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Has Noah Rothman yet written a single article that indicates he is in any way a conservative?

Shump on July 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM

In defense of Chris Christie….oh nevermind.

airupthere on July 2, 2014 at 3:51 PM

In defense of Chris Christie’s Hobby Lobby non-answer and the modest moderate presidency

FIFY

airupthere on July 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM

What utter nonsense, Mr. Rothman….

EastofEden on July 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM

This was headline bait this morning, no matter what you think of Christie. I watched the video, he said he came there to talk about other things, he handled it ok, did not deny that he is pro life, and had no more to say to them on the subject of when he stopped beating his wife, or when he decided to forbid women from “ACCESS” to contraceptives.

There will be one of these every week, just like right now the media is causing the weekly uproar pointing out that some GOP rep from texas said the illegals might get legalization to work somehow…not the most important thing he said when visiting in his district. They headlined it:

GOP Lawmaker: ‘No problem’ for path to legal status..

But it is clear if you read the article he has some HUGE problems with immigration.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/211189-republican-no-problem-for-house-to-pass-path-to-legal-status

He is being denounced now by his loyal supporters, for taking a drink of water while he gives a speech, and called a RINO…by people who don’t know him, and don’t even live there. I have to wonder if the people posting might be democrats.

Fleuries on July 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Pro-illegal alien amnesty, anti-TEA party Noah Rothman rides to the defense of pro-illegal alien amnesty, anti-TEA party Chris Christie.

bluegill on July 2, 2014 at 3:54 PM

What kind of judges do you think this guy would pick, Noah?

rdbrewer on July 2, 2014 at 3:54 PM

It is time for Republicans to think a bit more strategically, pick their battles, disband the circular firing squads, and leave the ideological litmus tests to the left.

And commit to nothing if you can weasel out of it. What better way to keep getting RINO’s electe… oh, wait. That’s not working, is it?

Midas on July 2, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Noah’s not a bad writer, imo, just out of place it seems.

Well, wait… actually, perhaps not. Maybe it is conservative readers who are out of place at a moderate, decidedly less conservative than it used to be website.

Actually, I think Noah’s doing a great job of writing at HA; fitting in quite well with the establishment.

Since I don’t fit in, maybe it is I who needs to be elsewhere, rather than griefing Noah. Hmm.

Midas on July 2, 2014 at 3:58 PM

In defense of Chris Christie

, You defend him Noah, I’ll pass.

D-fusit on July 2, 2014 at 3:58 PM

I’ve been noticing a trend here at HotAir – a trend which appears to show that HA is leaning towards the establishment.

MoreLiberty on July 2, 2014 at 3:24 PM

So true! Not one mention of the citizens of Murietta, CA protesting and stopping the illegal aliens buses being foisted onto their city!

tomshup on July 2, 2014 at 3:58 PM

I think his non-answer is more than just reticence.

I think he believes the decision was wrong.

SteveMG on July 2, 2014 at 3:58 PM

In defense of Chris Christie’s Hobby Lobby non-answer and the modest presidency

There is no defense for Chris Christie here any more than when the fat bastard hugged and endorsed Obama on that New Jersey beach.

And I reject the stupid idea that “conservatives” can’t take principled stands on issues like religious freedom. That’s just what liberals say when they demand that everybody fall in line with the surrender caucus.

Happy Nomad on July 2, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Hey Noah,

You’re letting us know who you are too quickly.

portlandon on July 2, 2014 at 4:03 PM

I guess you and Guy Benson will take turns trying to sell us Krsipy?

He didn’t offer an opinion because because he thinks it’s a catch 22: support it and you’ll get the War on Womyn crowd pouncing; oppose it and social conservatives will abandon you. It really is just that simple.

The way some Republicans bend over backwards to apologize for this fat idiot is just sad…

I voted for his opponent in both primaries, I didn’t vote in ’09, and I voted Libertarian in 2013. You mark my words: if he is the nominee, I am staying home or voting third party.

Ted the Average on July 2, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Since I don’t fit in, maybe it is I who needs to be elsewhere, rather than griefing Noah. Hmm.

Midas on July 2, 2014 at 3:58 PM

I was JUST thinking the same thing, literally like 3 minutes ago.

I’m wondering whether fighting against the DimocRat wing of the Republican party is even worth it.

After all, I’ve already dumped the party anyway and generally think the GOP is soon to be dead regardless.

Meople on July 2, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Has Noah Rothman yet written a single article that indicates he is in any way a conservative?
Shump on July 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Noah Rothman is pro-illegal alien amnesty, pro-abortion, against the traditional definition of marriage, anti-TEA party and pro-GOP Establishment.

Noah Rothman also insults HotAir commenters while chatting with his liberal pundit buddies on Twitter, calling us “not tech savvy” enough for Twitter. See self-superior Rothman show his liberal pundit friends on Twitter how supposedly uncouth the HotAir commenters are, in an attempt to get sympathy: https://mobile.twitter.com/noahcrothman/status/480012339270664193

Noah Rothman looks down his nose at HotAir readers, lacks any of Allahpundit’s charm, sense of humor and writing skill, regards pro-immigration law enforcement voters with disdain and is an admitted loyal MSNBC viewer.

Is it any surprise that Noah Rothman’s HotAir tenure so far has been a resounding FLOP?

bluegill on July 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM

It is time for Republicans to think a bit more strategically, pick their battles, disband the circular firing squads, and leave the ideological litmus tests to the left.

They had that opportunity last October they caved with moronic “live to fight another day” motto of cowards including not just one HA commentator. If the leftist “Republicans” want to disband the circular firing squads, it is in their power. They merely have to acknowledge and work with social conservatives instead of sneering at them and lecturing them on just how smart Christie was is refusing to say if he supports religious freedom or not.

Put in terms fans of Mr. Rothman can understand. Protecting religious freedom is not a litmus test but it isn’t an issue that an aspiring candidate can remain silent on if he or she wants credibility with the moderates and conservatives within the GOP. The only thing more annoying is when one of these critters lectures the GOP base on why they need to be supporting amnesty, abortion, or sodomy.

Happy Nomad on July 2, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Christie’s answer was deplorable as is this post.

If you can’t speak up for the First Amendment, then you’re automatically disqualified to be President and swear that oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.

Obama has done everything he can to shred the Constitution. The next President needs to be a conservative with guts who can not only withstand the barrage of the Dems and media, but can advance the restoration of the Republic.

INC on July 2, 2014 at 4:11 PM

It’s also an incredible insult to Coolidge to compare Christie to him.

INC on July 2, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Meople on July 2, 2014 at 3:39 PM

That’s what I figured.

GWB on July 2, 2014 at 4:13 PM

You can’t vote “present” in regard to a question of fundamental liberty. There is no defense and none should be offered.

echosyst on July 2, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Noah Rothman makes Jazz Shaw look like a rock-ribbed conservative.

bluegill on July 2, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Noah Rothman looks down his nose at HotAir readers, lacks any of Allahpundit’s charm, sense of humor and writing skill, regards pro-immigration law enforcement voters with disdain and is an admitted loyal MSNBC viewer.

Is it any surprise that Noah Rothman’s HotAir tenure so far has been a resounding FLOP?

bluegill on July 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Then why is he here, instead of at Daily Kos?

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 4:15 PM

It is time for Republicans to think a bit more strategically, pick their battles, disband the circular firing squads, and leave the ideological litmus tests to the left.

Mitt Romney 2016!!!!!!!

BTW, didn’t you imply earlier that the left doesn’t engage in litmus tests? Now you’re telling us we need to leave the litmus tests to the left. Sheesh, RINOism is so confusing.

xblade on July 2, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Is it any surprise that Noah Rothman’s HotAir tenure so far has been a resounding FLOP?

bluegill on July 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM

I wouldn’t go that far. It takes time for a moderator to find his or her voice. Without even reading the byline, I can tell MKH’s comments from AP’s or EM’s by the relative amount of snark or style of writing.

To date, Rothman has been throwing out the kind of crap that one finds on MSDNC. Left-of-center talking points without any facts to back them up, for example. Or giving Chris Christie credit for being modest when he doesn’t respond like the bully he is. I’m not a fan of Rothman or his ideas but it is a little unfair to not give him time to better understand the HA nuances.

Happy Nomad on July 2, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Then why is he here, instead of at Daily Kos?

cat_owner

Was Kos hiring? Besides, Kos already has plenty of lefties. HotAir is simply practicing what it preaches….big tent and all you see. You don’t want any litmus tests, do you?

xblade on July 2, 2014 at 4:18 PM

I think Chris Christie may actually be thinner than Boss Hogg (Haley Barbour).

bw222 on July 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM

I guess you and Guy Benson will take turns trying to sell us Krsipy?
Ted the Average on July 2, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Although Benson has been almost shameless in his defense of Christie…I’m thinking he would not even try to spin this abdication of integrity by Christie.

I could be wrong…

And the only reason I think that Benson wouldn’t dare try to spin this is because I think Benson is conservative, just too caught up in the establishment view of too many things…

I guess I could be wrong about that too…

EastofEden on July 2, 2014 at 4:21 PM

bluegill on July 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Thanks for pointing out his twitter. I hadn’t thought to look at it.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Good question. Since HA claims to be a leading conservative blog, then I’d like to see some insightful conservative analysis. Has the meaning of conservative become totally elastic?

INC on July 2, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Christie’s answer was deplorable as is this post.

INC on July 2, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Not standing up for religious freedom is where I think Mitt Romney officially lost the 2012 election. Sandra Fluke, a professional slut, testified before a sham “Congressional Committee.” After Rush Limbaugh pointed out her sluttiness, Obama called her and she became the poster whore for war on women. It was at this point that I think Mitt should have made some generic comment about caring for womens’ health but that society needed to balance that concern against the fundamental right for religious freedom. Instead Mitt yammered on about the economy and completely ignored the slut in the room.

Noah Rothman is clearly a RINO who doesn’t care about social issues like religious freedom. His lauding Christie for not saying anything that affirms a commitment to religious freedom is just as deplorable.

Happy Nomad on July 2, 2014 at 4:23 PM

The president’s self-evident failure to safeguard American interests abroad and restore prosperity at home has renewed the public’s faith in Republicans as stewards of the nation’s affairs.

What????? Where are you getting this from? No, it hasn’t restored faith in Repubs. Even amongst Repub voters, confidence and trust in the government decreases with each week that goes by because neither party is trustworthy!!!!

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 4:23 PM

meh…
a squish defends a squish.
bet if you all tried hard enough you could get megan mcain to write here too.

dmacleo on July 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Maybe we can get Nicolle Wallace to join her… yeah…that’s the ticket!!! /

bimmcorp on July 2, 2014 at 4:25 PM

I agree that Chris Christie didn’t have to voice an opinion on this matter to impeach his Republican credentials. That box is checked. Besides, he only spouts off on national issues when he’s beclowning McCaining himself for the cameras.

Immolate on July 2, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Happy Nomad on July 2, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Agreed. Although rather than label this as a social religious freedom issue, it is in truth a First Amendment issue.

INC on July 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM

I’m not a fan of Rothman or his ideas but it is a little unfair to not give him time to better understand the HA nuances.

Happy Nomad on July 2, 2014 at 4:17 PM

What does he need to better understand? He’s simply revealing his true colors, a GOPe fanboy who can’t understand why Conservatives are refusing to vote for more GOPe Republicrats, all while he and all the rest of GOPe continue stabbing us the back every chance they get.

Meople on July 2, 2014 at 4:27 PM

yep. just as i predicted.the writers at hotair feverishly trying to prop up the fat mans failed image.

renalin on July 2, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Is it any surprise that Noah Rothman’s HotAir tenure so far has been a resounding FLOP?

bluegill on July 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Not to pile on but I’m with you on this. For a very brief period, I was looking forward to a post by Noah. Now I find myself skipping more and more of his posts altogether.

Does seem like he’d be a better fit at Slate, Kos or the Beast. At least when I visit those sites (which is very rare), I know what to expect.

pain train on July 2, 2014 at 4:28 PM

INC on July 2, 2014 at 4:23 PM

If we want to read lefty articles, we can go to Kos, Talking Points Memo, etc. Don’t want to read them here.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Here’s a quote from Coolidge’s 1925 Thanksgiving Day Proclamation:

As we have grown and prospered in material things, so also should we progress in moral and spiritual things. We are a God-fearing people who should set ourselves against evil and strive for righteousness in living, and observing the Golden Rule we should from our abundance help and serve those less fortunately placed. We should bow in gratitude to God for His many favors.

Can’t imagine Christie saying anything close to that.

I believe there are some other speeches on religion in America that Coolidge is famous for, but I can’t remember their title at the moment.

INC on July 2, 2014 at 4:29 PM

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Yep.

INC on July 2, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Chris Christie and Calvin Coolidge….this is the same Christie who intentionally went out of his way to provide barky with a Hurricane Sandy photo op just before the election.

‘Silent Cal’ and ‘Craven Chris’….really? This was close to actionable blog negligence.

cthemfly on July 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM

BTW, this is an excellent site to find the text of many presidential documents, speeches, etc.:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/index.php

INC on July 2, 2014 at 4:34 PM

‘Craven Chris’

cthemfly on July 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Great nickname!

INC on July 2, 2014 at 4:35 PM

What does he need to better understand? He’s simply revealing his true colors, a GOPe fanboy who can’t understand why Conservatives are refusing to vote for more GOPe Republicrats, all while he and all the rest of GOPe continue stabbing us the back every chance they get.

Meople on July 2, 2014 at 4:27 PM

That indeed seems to be Rothman’s voice. But was he hired to give those opinions? I don’t want HA to be an echo chamber but I’m not interested in Christie telling us he doesn’t care about social conservative issues and having Rothman telling us we just don’t understand how brilliant the fat bastard is for doing so.

Happy Nomad on July 2, 2014 at 4:37 PM

There is no defense. He either supports religious liberty, or he doesn’t. Not even gonna bother reading the post. For conservatives the Hobby Lobby case is about as clear cut as it gets when it comes to religious liberty.

NotCoach on July 2, 2014 at 4:38 PM

‘Silent Cal’ and ‘Craven Chris’….really? This was close to actionable blog negligence.

cthemfly on July 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Calvin Coolidge
Chris Christie
Charlie Crist……

Anybody else see the connection here?

Happy Nomad on July 2, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Ever since the moonlight stroll on the beach with Barack, Christie has been dead to me.

bimmcorp on July 2, 2014 at 4:39 PM

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