Quotes of the day

posted at 10:31 pm on July 1, 2014 by Allahpundit

[A]s John J. Dilulio Jr., the first director of the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, writes over at Brookings, “Love it or loathe it, the Hobby Lobby decision is limited in scope.” It’s about how the Religious Freedom Restoration Act applies to this particular objection from Hobby Lobby and other “closely held” companies, or businesses that are mostly owned by a small group of people who also happen to run them. And the Court went out of its way to clarify that their ruling does not apply to other possible medical objections, like blood transfusions and vaccinations.

Most importantly, this ruling won’t necessarily prevent women who work at Hobby Lobby, Conestoga Wood, or other religious companies from accessing birth control through their insurance plans. In the majority opinion, Alito specifically suggests that the government could use the same kind of exemption it has set up for non-profit organizations: Companies would have to sign a short document certifying that they object to providing birth-control coverage, and then the government would take over coverage from there. Several separate court cases about this accommodation are still pending in lower courts, but the point is that the Court doesn’t think bosses should get to deny affordable birth-control access to their employees—they just shouldn’t necessarily have to pay for it.

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Roy continues: “[W]hile the government can’t compel Hobby Lobby to finance abortifacients, it can compel taxpayers to do so. Isn’t that a distinction without a difference?” I think there is a difference. The government can let pacifists out of military service without letting them out of paying taxes to support the military, and nobody believes that distinction meaningless. Pro-lifers should object to having their tax dollars spent on abortifacients. But it’s worse for pro-lifers to be forced to offer insurance that covers them. It’s worse because it requires more direct cooperation on their part, and because it carries a greater risk of communicating an untruth about their moral conviction.

Roy’s arguments and mine bear a family resemblance to ones that got aired during the debate over the individual mandate. Most opponents of it argued that there was a difference in principle between being forced to pay taxes that are then used to provide insurance and being forced to buy insurance. If you think that argument holds up (as I do, and most conservatives do), the distinction holds up here as well.

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Ginsburg’s dissent begins by calling the decision one of “startling breadth.” The high court ruled that under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, the government cannot require “closely held” corporations–those with most of their stock owned by fewer than five individuals–whose owners possess “sincerely religious beliefs” against the use of contraception to provide health insurance to employees that covers birth control. Ginsburg fears that the majority has “ventured into a minefield” with the decision, which could allow corporations to “opt out of any law” that “they judge incompatible with their sincerely held religious beliefs.”…

Ginsburg’s opinion, some legal experts say, may turn out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. By stating that the opinion is much broader than the majority claims it to be, she may be providing lower-court judges with a stronger foundation to provide more religious exemptions in the future.

“If the dissenters had simply taken Kennedy at his word in his concurrence, and simply agreed it was narrow, the lower court judges would have had to work very hard to say this applies broadly,” said Eric Segall, a professor at Georgia State University College of Law. “Now they can just cite Ginsburg, and say she thought it applied broadly.”

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The court cited the government’s ability to meet women’s need for affordable access to contraception in other ways, specifically pointing to government provision of birth control as an option. But in the current reproductive rights environment, that will never happen. Opponents of reproductive rights are trying to limit access to comprehensive women’s health care from all directions. At the federal level, they have attempted to defund Title X, which provides funding for family planning for our poorest sisters in community clinics. At the state level, in Texas for example, there are attacks on government money for contraception and clinics that offer abortion care. There is a movement to prohibit government support not only for abortion services—which, with a few exceptions, has existed for three decades—but also for emergency contraception and certain forms of birth control. Even a woman’s ability to pay for her own coverage is under attack: Some states’ exchanges and the federal exchange are prohibited from providing insurance that covers abortion care.

In sum, the anti-choice movement wants to limit not just affordable access, but all access to abortion and birth control, whether it is backed by the government, by employers, or purchased by private citizens. It is an attack at all levels, and today’s decision is just another success in these efforts.

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I like to think that I care about both the women and the religious conservatives who share this great nation of ours. It seemed to me from the beginning that being made to pay for something that someone views as deeply morally wrong (or to facilitate the transaction for same, if you take the general view that employee health insurance ultimately comes out of employee wages) was going to be a giant burden on people of conscience. And because the loss to women was small, it seemed fairly obvious to me that we should grant the freedom of conscience to people who clearly have some very deeply held beliefs — not because women’s health is not very important, but because this was not going to have a very important impact on women’s health.

And yet the logic of politics, and the culture war, made this sort of fine distinction-drawing impossible. As I see it, this case should never have made it to the court; the Barack Obama administration should have pre-empted the issue by quietly allowing exemptions for nonprofits and closely held corporations that had clear and deep religious beliefs that existed outside of the desire not to pay for contraception. (Hobby Lobby, for example, is closed on Sundays in observation of the Sabbath, even though this costs them sales; I think we can all agree that the Little Sisters of the Poor have demonstrated a fair amount of commitment to demanding religious principles.)

Instead, the administration chose to pick this fight — and got a definitive ruling that will probably have much broader impacts than quiet exceptions. Nor is this surprising; it was pretty predictable from earlier rulings like Citizens United, in which the court also held that people don’t lose their First Amendment rights simply because they have come together in a group or legally organized that group as a corporation.

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Conspicuously absent from yesterday’s post-Hobby Lobby hullabaloo was the acknowledgment on the left that the decision was the product of a court. Distilling into a single line what was a popular and widely disseminated critique, the New York Times’s Nick Kristof tweeted a picture of Justices Kennedy, Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito, sardonically labeling the quintet as “The experts on women’s health on the Supreme Court who ruled today against contraception coverage.” A few hours later, Senator Harry Reid’s office pushed out an assessment that was cut from the same unlovely cloth. “It’s time that five men on the Supreme Court stop deciding what happens to women,” Reid tweeted. Among the hysterical, that sentiment was ubiquitous.

One cannot help but wonder whether Kristof and Reid are aware of what the Supreme Court actually does — which, as anybody who has even a fleeting grasp of American civics knows, is not to set American policy, on health or anything else, but to interpret and uphold the law. In this particular case, the justices were called to judge whether a mandate that was pushed out by the Obama administration in 2012 was in conflict with another law, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, that was added to the books in 1992. This being so, the degree to which those who decided the case are “experts on women’s health” is wholly immaterial. The justices are jurists not doctors — they are nine appointed attorneys whose role in the American settlement is to provide legal answers to legal questions. Man or woman; straight or gay; handsome or ugly; Jew, Catholic, or protestant — the law must remain the law, regardless of in whose name its intricacies are decided. The alternative would be disastrous. Does Harry Reid aspire to see Roe v. Wade, which was decided by nine men, overturned?

Identity politics notwithstanding, the central implication of the Kristofs and Reids of the world — that the very involvement of the Court in this area is uncouth — is a rather strange one. The only way that such questions will not end up in the courts is if a political accommodation is reached: If Congress moves to reconcile its incompatible laws; if the Obama administration elects not to push the state into hitherto unthinkable areas; or if the Constitution is amended to render moot the question of what governments may require of the religious. In the absence of such action, the courts will inevitably be asked to intervene. Does the pair have a better way of resolving legal disputes? Is Marbury v. Madison to be reconsidered each time the result of a Supreme Court case is not to the liking of the New York Times?

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[H]uman nature being what it is, loss aversion is generally more potent than the joys of winning, and even a string of victories doesn’t necessarily satisfy; if anything, it can just sharpen the appetite for further victories still. This is why ascendant parties, no matter their ideology, are rarely magnanimous to the defeated or the disfavored: Where a transformative agenda is being pursued, one set of gains is more likely make the next set of items seem that much more necessary, more essential, more inarguably correct. And under such circumstances, residual, rear-guard resistance can actually inspire more outrage than a stronger opposition, because the winning side comes to feel that it’s offensive that anyone is still fighting — don’t they know the battle’s over, don’t they know that history’s verdict has been rendered? Will no one rid me of this troublesome craft store?

This last impulse, I would suggest, is particularly potent in cases where the transformation in question is not necessarily delivering on its promises, and where there’s a felt need to find someone outside the enlightened community/the holy Catholic empire/History’s vanguard to blame for that falling-short. Where our current kulturkampf is concerned, for instance, I think most contemporary liberals are aware that post-1960s America is not quite the liberated and egalitarian utopia that was promised … but many of them are quite determined to believe that their own ideology is blameless, that there aren’t actually any internal contradictions in social liberalism, and that contemporary social problems must always and everywhere be the fault of something called “conservatism,” in all its varied guises. The revolution hasn’t failed or fallen; it’s just been resisted and disrupted by wreckers and reactionaries; etc. Which is how you end up with the sense, palpable in the liberal Twitter reaction to the Hobby Lobby decision, that if it weren’t for Catholic Supreme Court justices and evangelical-owned craft stores, all sorts of problems would gradually be washed away, like tears in a soft progressive rain.

And perhaps, if current trends persist for long enough, we will get to actually test that proposition. But not yet, not yet.

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Via the Right Pundit.


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Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 12:24 AM

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:20 AM

You passed up “Juicy!!!!” You are an oak!

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:25 AM

I guess I am just getting old…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM

Over a decade ago now, when I was 37, a FIFTEEN year old girl offered me oral sex. I nearly had a heart attack. She said it was no big deal.

I thought it was a big deal.

No, I didn’t accept. No way no how.

That was truly one of the creepiest moments of my life.

Diluculo on July 2, 2014 at 12:25 AM

Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 12:24 AM

Good evening Dire!

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:25 AM

There was this woman who took Metro North into the city at my stop who had one of those streaks. I wanted one so badly.
CoffeeLover on July 2, 2014 at 12:17 AM

I have one…I’ll split it with you…you can have some of the offspring, too, if you want…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:25 AM

Husband said that if Ayers was paid ANYTHING to be on the show-my husband will never watch FNC again.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2014 at 12:20 AM

That’s a good point. Had not thought of that. I was just offended at the idea of having him on at all. Can’t believe a word he says.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:25 AM

I haven’t read this thread so forgive me if this was already brought up. Does anyone have a rundown handy on which 4 BC items and how much each cost? Argument in progress…

anuts on July 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM

I’m sure that’s true. And to think this is someone Obama knows, along with the ‘Reverend’.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:17 AM

ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos, April 16: An early organizing meeting for your state senate campaign was held at his house, and your campaign has said you are friendly. Can you explain that relationship for the voters, and explain to Democrats why it won’t be a problem?

Obama: George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about.

This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM

Dire….

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM

I have a video I want to post, but even though it is on YouTube, I think it might actually get me the Hammer.

I heard that tune outside a strip club, looked it up, and thought to myself, “This might be some high schooler’s prom song…”

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM

Joe B. Sloe Gin
I’ll buy a round for the house

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:25 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 12:27 AM

PnC; brings to mind a possibly apochryphal tale about W. Churchill and ‘We’ve already established what you are. we are now only negotiating the price’. Any female who puts a monetary value to ‘it’, isn’t worth the price. Desu?

DemetriusPhalerum on July 2, 2014 at 12:27 AM

I heard that tune outside a strip club, looked it up, and thought to myself, “This might be some high schooler’s prom song…”
PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM

I’ve dedicated this one to Ratso before…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:27 AM

Resist We Much on July 2, 2014 at 12:13 AM

That was insightful. And a facepalm about political bed-fellows I will never understand. Progressive gays seem hell bent on destroying organized Christianity. They do this dance with the devil, radical Islam, to facilitate that. And in the mean time they ignore the fact the execution they claim will never really take place, are currently taking place in Iran.

But obama has managed to make Iran look like the peace makers and fighters of terrorism on the world stage much like he has for Putin and Russia.

How the hell did we get this turned around?

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:27 AM

BRB

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:27 AM

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM

Nooooorrrrmmm!!..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 12:28 AM

Joe B. Sloe Gin
I’ll buy a round for the house
Fred
jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM

[psssst! The tab's taken care of nightly, Fred... ;-)

Enters under "Taste Test"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:29 AM

Benghazi suspect corroborate details of attacks.

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:12 AM

He mentioned the video? :)

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2014 at 12:29 AM

PS..Good evening..:)
Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 12:28 AM

[sends Dire a Double Whatchudrinkin'...enters under "School's Out"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM

How the hell did we get this turned around?

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:27 AM

It is sad..Very Sad..:(

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM

They talk about it in my car all the time… they make out and get groped and fingered and groped, and it doesn’t mean anything…
I guess I am just getting old…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM


Nope.

Years ago at a mall, left my wife to hold seats while I got the food. When I got back she was visibly upset …

… because the two 12 year od girls sitting behind had been talking that same sort of talk.

Then our kids grew up and my son, who was a declared “straight edge” had trouble finding girls to date because of how they expected to be treated on dates.

PolAgnostic on July 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM

Ugggh. An ancient Barry Gibb is on Jimmy Fallon trying to sing Jive Talkin’
I am embarrassed for him…

OmahaConservative on July 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM

This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.

Yeah I gotta agree that Ayers didn’t influence Obama… between his porn model mom, communist grandparents, and Frank Marshall Davis, Obama was fully developed before he met Ayers… their first meeting was more like an old pro meeting a promising up and comer… like the first time Peyton Manning met Troy Aikman…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:31 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 12:31 AM

Any chemistry majors here?

What does this combination make?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:32 AM

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM

Didn’t he also launch his political career in this guy’s living room? Of course…. they barely knew each other.

Just like he sat in the ‘reverend’s’ church for 20 or so years, yet never heard his racist, anti-American rants.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:32 AM

Ugggh. An ancient Barry Gibb is on Jimmy Fallon trying to sing Jive Talkin’
I am embarrassed for him…

OmahaConservative on July 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM

I agree..:(

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 12:32 AM

Second, women, attire, and rape…

If the Islamists position on homosexuality isn’t enough to make the Left consider with whom they are in bed, perhaps, Eva Helgetun might be, as she was emblematic of the terror that Norwegian women face.

‘According to many of the rape victims, their rapists told them that their religion allowed them to rape non-Muslims.’

Islam is called the ‘religion of peace’ by its adherents and defenders, but many Norwegian women are learning that Islam, as practised by many there, is the religion of rape.

According to an incredible police report released in June, every violent rape in Norway in the past 5 years, where the rapist could be identified, was committed by a male of non-western background and every solved rape in 2010 was committed by a Muslim (here, here, here, here, here, here, here – get access to links here as they are too numerous for HA). This phenomenon is not new in Scandinavia. The reported number of rapes in the Norwegian capital of Oslo is six times as high as in New York City.

A report in Aftenposten, in 2001 said:


‘While 65% of those charged with rape are classed as coming from a non-western background, this segment makes up only 14.3% of Oslo’s population. Norwegian women were the victims in 80% of the cases.’

In 2005, a crime prevention study released in Sweden reported that Algerians, Libyans, Moroccans, and Tunisians ‘dominate the group of rape suspects. The same year, the newspaper Aftonbladet reported that nearly half of all rapists were immigrants.

As was observed, ‘in other words, Muslims from Africa and other benighted Third World places are targeting Western women for rape.’

Ms Unni Wikan, a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo, said:

‘Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes’ because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. [Her conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite] Norwegian women must realise that we live in a Multicultural society and adapt themselves to it.’

That brings us back to Eva Helgetun. Eva was a 14 year-old girl, who was gang raped on 1 May 2011 by 3 Somali Muslims in Trondheim, a beautiful area with a population of approximately 174,000. Her’s was the fifth gang rape perpetrated by Muslims in Trondheim in a month. Traumatised, battered, and unable to cope, this beautiful, young girl committed suicide on 28 May 2011. In Shari’ah law, a rape victim must have four witnesses; otherwise, she is the adulterer. In Unni Wikan’s world, Eva Helgetun ‘asked for it’ simply by being an exquisite girl in Western clothes and, I suppose, did what any ‘guilty, wanton, adulterous’ dhimmi should: She killed herself.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2014 at 12:33 AM

Good evening..:)
Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 12:31 AM

*smoooooch!*

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:33 AM

Do you support Obama’s intervention and funding of rebel’s in Syria?

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:18 AM

No I do not. Thank you for asking and not just assuming.

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:22 AM

Then you agree he has facilitated war crimes on an epic level. I’ve seen a lot, but nothing even close to the barbarity that obama funded FSA rebels have committed.

The world asserts we have created the greatest terrorist threat in modern time because of this. The vey people obama sends aid to, are trolling us about instituting Sharia and caliphate in the US.

The man he released from Camp Bucca, “See ya in New York.”

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:33 AM

crankyoldlady on July 2, 2014 at 12:19 AM

back in my 20s they wouldn’t do it. Then I remember I wanted them to dye my hair like a tortoise shell comb…they wouldn’t do that either. LOL

I’m sure they’ll do it for me now.

Newtie

lol

CoffeeLover on July 2, 2014 at 12:34 AM

PolAgnostic on July 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM

That’s very much so true. Under the guise of equality and freedom blah, blah, blah, the standards that females hold for themselves in how they want to be treated, etc., have sunk incredibly low.

It’s heartbreaking to see, because a lot of girls have nothing higher to compare it to.

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:34 AM

I’ve dedicated this one to Ratso before…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:27 AM

One of those words is repeated often in my song, but not in a cute or funny way.

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:34 AM

deeply decided divided Israel sees a larger purpose.

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:16 AM

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2014 at 12:34 AM

Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 12:32 AM

Hey DS…

OmahaConservative on July 2, 2014 at 12:34 AM

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM

Hey Dire.

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:34 AM

I have a video I want to post, but even though it is on YouTube, I think it might actually get me the Hammer.

I heard that tune outside a strip club, looked it up, and thought to myself, “This might be some high schooler’s prom song…”

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM

Please allude to which song it is. =)

I’ve wanted to post one I like by “Mother’s Finest” which contains “Can’t Sang Rock’n’Roll” in its title, which you’ll see why I’ve held back for the same concern if you do a YouTube search for it.

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:35 AM

whiskey in a jar Gary Moore

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 12:35 AM

Dire

Hi (waving)

CoffeeLover on July 2, 2014 at 12:35 AM

Resist We Much on July 2, 2014 at 12:33 AM

When I was stationed at Sheppard AFB, Wichita Falls, TX, back in 1975, we women were TOLD to avoid the Irani barracks and the Iranis. When we started bringing them over from Iran for pilot training, the incidence of rape on base escalated alarmingly.

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:36 AM

Thanks for the link Vordaj.

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:37 AM

How the hell did we get this turned around?

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:27 AM

.
Link back to my post earlier tonight: Burn.It.Down

Scroll down the page for the some “clarifying comments”.

We can’t turn this around without cleaning out OUR part of the swamp FIRST.

PolAgnostic on July 2, 2014 at 12:38 AM

And another freaky thing to a Dad with a four year old daughter is that you can click on porn BY ACCIDENT, in an innocent search.

Makes a couple of Playboys stuffed under the mattress look like a Norman Rockwell painting.

I am against censorship in principle, but I really wish there was a “Kidinternet”…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:38 AM

One of those words is repeated often in my song, but not in a cute or funny way.
PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:34 AM

Maybe that’s why one protest song isn’t posted here very often…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:38 AM

Husband said that if Ayers was paid ANYTHING to be on the show-my husband will never watch FNC again.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2014 at 12:20 AM

That’s a good point. Had not thought of that. I was just offended at the idea of having him on at all. Can’t believe a word he says.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:25 AM

Ayers isn’t getting paid. He’s slithering back out from his hole because he has a book to sell. Kelly is just taking advantage of his venality to expose him as the liar and dangerous sociopath he is.

novaculus on July 2, 2014 at 12:39 AM

I am against censorship in principle, but I really wish there was a “Kidinternet”…
PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:38 AM

There is–it’s called “Parental Controls and Filters”…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:40 AM

Didn’t he also launch his political career in this guy’s living room? Of course…. they barely knew each other.

Just like he sat in the ‘reverend’s’ church for 20 or so years, yet never heard his racist, anti-American rants.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:32 AM

It’s painfully obvious he’s a total liar, a sociopath. All who trust him should not be trusted themselves.

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:40 AM

Well, folks, I’m going to call it a night. Enjoyed talking with everyone! Y’all have a good one!

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:41 AM

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:41 AM

Niters and sleep well, LH!

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:42 AM

Kelly is just taking advantage of his venality to expose him as the liar and dangerous sociopath he is.

novaculus on July 2, 2014 at 12:39 AM

Is she doing a good job of it?

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:42 AM

G’night lh.
Still enjoying the Skynyrd Newtie…

OmahaConservative on July 2, 2014 at 12:42 AM

Please allude to which song it is. =)

I’ve wanted to post one I like by “Mother’s Finest” which contains “Can’t Sang Rock’n’Roll” in its title, which you’ll see why I’ve held back for the same concern if you do a YouTube search for it.

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:35 AM

Use your Google Fu and search for a lady and “yankin”…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:43 AM

How the hell did we get this turned around?

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:27 AM

It’s truly FUBAR’d. Consider this from Bruce Bawer, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center and the author of ‘While Europe Slept,’ ‘Surrender’, ‘The Victims’ Revolution: The Rise of Identity Studies and the Closing of the Liberal Mind’, and ‘The New Quislings’, about the Norwegian Left’s exploitation of the July 22 Massacre of 77 people by Anders Behring Breivik, who observed in his article, ‘The Poison of Multiculturalism’:

If you want a pretty good example of just why multiculturalism is so poisonous, here’s one for you.

I live in Norway. Here, as elsewhere in Europe, there reside innumerable immigrants from the Muslim world who despise Western values, reject sexual equality, and affirm primitive patriarchal codes and concepts of ‘honor’ that condemn people (mostly females) to death for infractions that neither you nor I would even recognize as infractions. Nonetheless these individuals enjoy Norwegian residency, and in some cases Norwegian citizenship, which some of them were granted because they claimed asylum (most likely on specious grounds, as demonstrated by the fact that many, if not most, of them return regularly to the countries from which they supposedly ‘fled’), and which others were granted because they married Norwegian residents (usually their own cousins, whom they married for no other reason than to acquire Western residency).

Every now and then there come along people from the Muslim world who are legitimate asylum-seekers – people who really would be in danger if they returned to their homelands, people to whom Western countries should feel a moral obligation to grant residency, and people from whose presence those countries would actually benefit, precisely because they’re people who will appreciate freedom more than most of the rest of us do. To put it another way, they’re the kind of immigrants who, generation by generation, have renewed the American spirit and the American dream by reminding those of us whose ancestors preceded them just how precious a thing freedom is.

Meet ‘Azad.’ He’s a gay Iraqi who, according to an article at the website of NRK, the Norwegian national broadcasting system, has been in a committed relationship since 2006 with somebody named Odd Arne Henriksen. (I don’t know either of these guys, though my partner, after looking at the picture of the two of them that accompanies the article, says he’s seen Henriksen around town a number of times. Oslo is a pretty small city.)

For years, apparently, ‘Azad’ has lived in Norway without causing any problems or being a burden on the state. But now an appellate court has ordered that he be deported to Iraq. If he goes back there, he says, ‘My clan will kill me.’ Indeed, the court recognizes that if it becomes known in Iraq that ‘Azad’ is gay, he risks ‘exclusion, isolation, and physical punishment.’ (In fact, he risks much worse.) Nonetheless the court has ruled that ‘Azad,’ in the words of NRK’s report, ‘must comply with his homeland’s sociocultural norms.’

Let me repeat that: HE ‘MUST COMPLY WITH HIS HOMELAND’S SOCIOCULTURAL NORMS.’

Forget freedom. Forget Norway’s sociocultural norms. Forget the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. In making a decision that for ‘Azad’ may mean the difference between life and death, what matters to an appellate court in Norway – a Western European country, a member of NATO – is ‘his homeland’s sociocultural norms’…however brutal and primitive those ‘norms’ may be. NRK notes that ‘Azad’ is far from alone. In the past two years, Norway has turned down no fewer than forty of fifty-two gay asylum seekers. The records of many other Western countries are not much better.

In the case of Norway, however, such statistics are especially outrageous…for this is a country that likes to think of itself as being extremely gay-friendly. It was the second country in the world to recognize same-sex partnerships. It was the sixth to recognize gay marriages. When it comes to native Norwegians who happen to be gay, the Norwegian state is very clear about where it stands on the rights and dignity of gay people. Gay Norwegians deserve no less than every right granted straight Norwegians, up to and including the right to marry.

But when it comes to a person like ‘Azad,’ a person from a country where he may well be imprisoned and even executed for being gay, all bets are off. For in such cases the Norwegian state’s respect for individuals takes a back seat – in a big way – to its respect for ‘different cultures.’ A gay person who happens to have been born into an Islamic culture cannot expect from the Norwegian state any deliverance from his culture’s values, even if those values condemn him to death.

The situation is actually even worse than I have already made it sound. Consider this: one of the five million residents of Norway is an Iraqi-born man named Mullah Krekar​, who founded the terrorist group Ansar al-Islam. He is a brutal monster who has spoken out in support of Osama bin Laden and the actions of 9/11 and who is known to have ordered the torture of children. He came to Norway many years ago as an asylum seeker and was granted asylum. He now lives in Oslo, where he has a comfortable apartment, receives a generous subsidy from the government, and is able to move around the city freely without supervision. He lives with his wife, who works in a day-care center, and his children, who are being given as good an education as Norway can provide. There have been efforts to return him to Iraq to face justice for his manifold crimes. Yet Norwegian authorities have repeatedly refused to send him back on the grounds that he might be imprisoned or otherwise punished. In other words, Norwegian authorities are able to defend – are, indeed, zealous about defending – what they see as the individual ‘rights’ and ‘dignity’ of a terrorist, so long as those ‘rights’ and ‘dignity’ don’t appear to conflict with any cultural ‘norms’ or ‘values’ that they’re afraid of offending.

But when it comes to ‘Azad’?

‘Well, sorry, fella – this way to the plane.’

Resist We Much on July 2, 2014 at 12:43 AM

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:41 AM

Good night Darlin!

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Still enjoying the Skynyrd Newtie…
OmahaConservative on July 2, 2014 at 12:42 AM

*smooooch!*

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:45 AM

Is she doing a good job of it?

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:42 AM

Ripped his a$$ to shreds.

novaculus on July 2, 2014 at 12:48 AM

Gator Country

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Nite all….XXOOs

CoffeeLover on July 2, 2014 at 12:49 AM

It’s truly FUBAR’d. Consider this from Bruce Bawer, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center and the author of ‘While Europe Slept,’ ‘Surrender’, ‘The Victims’ Revolution: The Rise of Identity Studies and the Closing of the Liberal Mind’, and ‘The New Quislings’, about the Norwegian Left’s exploitation of the July 22 Massacre of 77 people by Anders Behring Breivik, who observed in his article, ‘The Poison of Multiculturalism’:

I reject anyone who whines or complains about evangelicals or Christians or Catholics or Hobby Lobby until Islam is sorted out… Baptists aren’t blowing up fruit markets and Presbyterians don’t lop off your head if you disagree…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Nite all….XXOOs
CoffeeLover on July 2, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Niters and sleep well, CL!

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:50 AM

But when it comes to ‘Azad’?

‘Well, sorry, fella – this way to the plane.’

Resist We Much on July 2, 2014 at 12:43 AM

Again. Strange bed-fellows. The only solace I take is that in destroying their political rivals with Islam, they will eventually destroy themselves. The same progressives that empower them are just a few points down an organized target list from us.

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:51 AM

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Good point. Didn’t even have to click…I can’t help it.

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:52 AM

Lynyrd Skynyrd – Tuesday’s Gone

And on that note, I bid Friends and Lurkers niters and sleep well!

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:52 AM

G’night CL…

OmahaConservative on July 2, 2014 at 12:52 AM

honest trailer: Forrest Gump. Funny.

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:52 AM

Islam will destroy us all. Count on it.

DemetriusPhalerum on July 2, 2014 at 12:53 AM

G’night Newtie…

OmahaConservative on July 2, 2014 at 12:53 AM

Thanks for the posts of your articles RWM and night all.

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:53 AM

Over a decade ago now, when I was 37, a FIFTEEN year old girl offered me oral sex. I nearly had a heart attack. She said it was no big deal.

I thought it was a big deal.

No, I didn’t accept. No way no how.

That was truly one of the creepiest moments of my life.

Diluculo on July 2, 2014 at 12:25 AM

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Preface this with, “I can be VERY dense”.

Three years ago at the grocery store, I’m writing the check while my daughter and wife are bagging groceries. The check out girl, who might have been 18, is chatting me up (remember, very dense) and I’m making polite responses, etc.

Move to the bagging area and as we start off out of the store, I got “enlightened”.

My daughter had been verbally restrained by my wife because she was ready to walk the 10 feet to the girl and (my daughter’s words) “clock her to the ground”.

My wife was just trying to figure out how to discuss the issue with the store manager … but decided not to because she couldn’t convey the “sub-text” discretely enough not to embarass herself in front of the male manager.

PolAgnostic on July 2, 2014 at 12:54 AM

Rush

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:54 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:52 AM

nite beauty. sleep tite don’t let the bedbugs bite.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 12:54 AM

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:22 AM

Then you agree he has facilitated war crimes on an epic level. I’ve seen a lot, but nothing even close to the barbarity that obama funded FSA rebels have committed.

The world asserts we have created the greatest terrorist threat in modern time because of this. The vey people obama sends aid to, are trolling us about instituting Sharia and caliphate in the US.

The man he released from Camp Bucca, “See ya in New York.”

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:33 AM

Really, like to know your thoughts on this if you’re not afraid to answer.

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:56 AM

Why is Megyn Kelly giving all this attention to Bill Ayers? Totally disgusting.

Fox news is getting worse all the time.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:04 AM

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Did she ask him about Prairie Fire at least?

LGF Exclusive: Bill Ayers’ ‘Prairie Fire’ in PDF Form

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:12 AM

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Thanks for the link, non-nonpartisan … I downloaded it in full.
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cat_owner … there will always be a value to having these American terrorists up front and center, so that we can see them for what they are.

listens2glenn on July 2, 2014 at 12:57 AM

G’night Hawk…

OmahaConservative on July 2, 2014 at 12:58 AM

Any chemistry majors here?

What does this combination make?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:32 AM

Bromine, the more important question, is what were they using Chlorine and Bromide for?

oscarwilde on July 2, 2014 at 12:58 AM

That brings us back to Eva Helgetun. Eva was a 14 year-old girl, who was gang raped on 1 May 2011 by 3 Somali Muslims in Trondheim, a beautiful area with a population of approximately 174,000. Her’s was the fifth gang rape perpetrated by Muslims in Trondheim in a month. Traumatised, battered, and unable to cope, this beautiful, young girl committed suicide on 28 May 2011. In Shari’ah law, a rape victim must have four witnesses; otherwise, she is the adulterer. In Unni Wikan’s world, Eva Helgetun ‘asked for it’ simply by being an exquisite girl in Western clothes and, I suppose, did what any ‘guilty, wanton, adulterous’ dhimmi should: She killed herself.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2014 at 12:33 AM

Why leftist thugs are never liberal/progressive and why Hillary/Fluke can get fluked into Hell. They don’t give a damn about women and children.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2014 at 12:59 AM

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:33 AM

obama just sent the future ISIS gangs in Syria 500 million more.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2014 at 1:00 AM

PolAgnostic on July 2, 2014 at 12:54 AM

When we were itchy-pants teens we’d have died for girls to throw themselves at us. I guess the fact that they didn’t made us kind of dense.

Meh, maybe density is a good thing. Sort of like innocence, good to have some at least ;)

Diluculo on July 2, 2014 at 1:00 AM

listens2glenn on July 2, 2014 at 12:57 AM

I can see your point. Personally though I resent them getting any kind of attention. I’m sure Megyn didn’t give him an easy interview though.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 1:01 AM

Good Night Hot Air! Turn it up!

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 1:03 AM

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2014 at 1:00 AM

just chill and dream that are where i am

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 1:04 AM

Then you agree he has facilitated war crimes on an epic level. I’ve seen a lot, but nothing even close to the barbarity that obama funded FSA rebels have committed.

The world asserts we have created the greatest terrorist threat in modern time because of this. The vey people obama sends aid to, are trolling us about instituting Sharia and caliphate in the US.

The man he released from Camp Bucca, “See ya in New York.”

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:33 AM

Most of the funding was done by countries we call allies but are more trouble then they are worth. Saudi Arabia, Qatar. Whatever funding we were doing was nothing compared to what Saudi Arabia and Qatar were doing.

So if we are going to place blame In order of magnitude for the rebel mess in Syria I say

Saudi Arabia
Qatar
Turkey
Assad
United States

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 1:06 AM

Hannity is on in replay on FOX
for those of you who missed the Miss news bits..

and they just named the good reverends name..

going2mars on July 2, 2014 at 1:07 AM

Use your Google Fu and search for a lady and “yankin”…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:43 AM

Thanks, even though it was utter sh!t as a song. =)

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 1:08 AM

just chill and dream that are where i am

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 1:04 AM

You are in Heaven on Earth, indeed, with few people too, Fred.

Thank you for the music. I was thinking of all the missing last night and you came to mind also. Glad to ‘see’ you.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2014 at 1:08 AM

Assad
United States

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 1:06 AM

just where on planet earth is the country assad located?

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 1:09 AM

CoffeeLover on July 2, 2014 at 12:35 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 2, 2014 at 1:10 AM

I wanted to log back in long enough to post this. Aaron Gardner, over at RS, has a new piece up about Cochran

#MSSen FEC Now Looking Into ProCochran Super Pac

Now, I’m really going to bed this time. Good night, y’all.

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 1:11 AM

Thanks, even though it was utter sh!t as a song. =)

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 1:08 AM

HEY! That was some kid’s prom theme, racist!

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 1:11 AM

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2014 at 1:08 AM

Hi Schad. Lately HA has become a blog about trolls posting stupid shit and others posting stupid shit about stupid shit. I have better things to do. Know what I mean?

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 1:13 AM

then I posted stupid shit

^

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 1:15 AM

Most of the funding was done by countries we call allies but are more trouble then they are worth. Saudi Arabia, Qatar. Whatever funding we were doing was nothing compared to what Saudi Arabia and Qatar were doing.

The Sunnis fund Sunnis, not that they are excused. However, don’t forget the Nixon pact, a very big one. He promised to always protect the OPEC lands and they promised to trade their oil in US dollars, for as long as they’d be protected.

With obama now having abandoned Iraq, that pact is null and void and your dollars will soon be toilet paper. Thank obama.

So if we are going to place blame In order of magnitude for the rebel mess in Syria I say

Saudi Arabia
Qatar
Turkey
Assad
United States

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 1:06 AM

This diminishes obama’s guilt on all his foreign policies, but specifically in the ME and the war on terror, which is very sad. He is the pivotal figure. He has zero foreign policy successes, but he contributed to so much deterioration, intentionally it seems. If not, he must be really stupid. But, I think the former.

In addition, Iran and Lebanon play a big, big role in Syria. Lebanon is now also dead. Jordan will be next.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2014 at 1:16 AM

oscarwilde on July 2, 2014 at 12:58 AM

evening
Chlorine dioxide is used to clean plant water..
the factory is a stamping plant…
the dies could be water cooled…
often that water is cleaned filtered and reused
along with many other machine processes..
my guess…water treatment..

http://www.water.siemens.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/Product_Lines/Wallace_and_Tiernan_Products/Brochures/WT.085.272.011.IE.AN.0409.pdf

going2mars on July 2, 2014 at 1:17 AM

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