Quotes of the day

posted at 10:31 pm on July 1, 2014 by Allahpundit

[A]s John J. Dilulio Jr., the first director of the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, writes over at Brookings, “Love it or loathe it, the Hobby Lobby decision is limited in scope.” It’s about how the Religious Freedom Restoration Act applies to this particular objection from Hobby Lobby and other “closely held” companies, or businesses that are mostly owned by a small group of people who also happen to run them. And the Court went out of its way to clarify that their ruling does not apply to other possible medical objections, like blood transfusions and vaccinations.

Most importantly, this ruling won’t necessarily prevent women who work at Hobby Lobby, Conestoga Wood, or other religious companies from accessing birth control through their insurance plans. In the majority opinion, Alito specifically suggests that the government could use the same kind of exemption it has set up for non-profit organizations: Companies would have to sign a short document certifying that they object to providing birth-control coverage, and then the government would take over coverage from there. Several separate court cases about this accommodation are still pending in lower courts, but the point is that the Court doesn’t think bosses should get to deny affordable birth-control access to their employees—they just shouldn’t necessarily have to pay for it.

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Roy continues: “[W]hile the government can’t compel Hobby Lobby to finance abortifacients, it can compel taxpayers to do so. Isn’t that a distinction without a difference?” I think there is a difference. The government can let pacifists out of military service without letting them out of paying taxes to support the military, and nobody believes that distinction meaningless. Pro-lifers should object to having their tax dollars spent on abortifacients. But it’s worse for pro-lifers to be forced to offer insurance that covers them. It’s worse because it requires more direct cooperation on their part, and because it carries a greater risk of communicating an untruth about their moral conviction.

Roy’s arguments and mine bear a family resemblance to ones that got aired during the debate over the individual mandate. Most opponents of it argued that there was a difference in principle between being forced to pay taxes that are then used to provide insurance and being forced to buy insurance. If you think that argument holds up (as I do, and most conservatives do), the distinction holds up here as well.

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Ginsburg’s dissent begins by calling the decision one of “startling breadth.” The high court ruled that under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, the government cannot require “closely held” corporations–those with most of their stock owned by fewer than five individuals–whose owners possess “sincerely religious beliefs” against the use of contraception to provide health insurance to employees that covers birth control. Ginsburg fears that the majority has “ventured into a minefield” with the decision, which could allow corporations to “opt out of any law” that “they judge incompatible with their sincerely held religious beliefs.”…

Ginsburg’s opinion, some legal experts say, may turn out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. By stating that the opinion is much broader than the majority claims it to be, she may be providing lower-court judges with a stronger foundation to provide more religious exemptions in the future.

“If the dissenters had simply taken Kennedy at his word in his concurrence, and simply agreed it was narrow, the lower court judges would have had to work very hard to say this applies broadly,” said Eric Segall, a professor at Georgia State University College of Law. “Now they can just cite Ginsburg, and say she thought it applied broadly.”

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The court cited the government’s ability to meet women’s need for affordable access to contraception in other ways, specifically pointing to government provision of birth control as an option. But in the current reproductive rights environment, that will never happen. Opponents of reproductive rights are trying to limit access to comprehensive women’s health care from all directions. At the federal level, they have attempted to defund Title X, which provides funding for family planning for our poorest sisters in community clinics. At the state level, in Texas for example, there are attacks on government money for contraception and clinics that offer abortion care. There is a movement to prohibit government support not only for abortion services—which, with a few exceptions, has existed for three decades—but also for emergency contraception and certain forms of birth control. Even a woman’s ability to pay for her own coverage is under attack: Some states’ exchanges and the federal exchange are prohibited from providing insurance that covers abortion care.

In sum, the anti-choice movement wants to limit not just affordable access, but all access to abortion and birth control, whether it is backed by the government, by employers, or purchased by private citizens. It is an attack at all levels, and today’s decision is just another success in these efforts.

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I like to think that I care about both the women and the religious conservatives who share this great nation of ours. It seemed to me from the beginning that being made to pay for something that someone views as deeply morally wrong (or to facilitate the transaction for same, if you take the general view that employee health insurance ultimately comes out of employee wages) was going to be a giant burden on people of conscience. And because the loss to women was small, it seemed fairly obvious to me that we should grant the freedom of conscience to people who clearly have some very deeply held beliefs — not because women’s health is not very important, but because this was not going to have a very important impact on women’s health.

And yet the logic of politics, and the culture war, made this sort of fine distinction-drawing impossible. As I see it, this case should never have made it to the court; the Barack Obama administration should have pre-empted the issue by quietly allowing exemptions for nonprofits and closely held corporations that had clear and deep religious beliefs that existed outside of the desire not to pay for contraception. (Hobby Lobby, for example, is closed on Sundays in observation of the Sabbath, even though this costs them sales; I think we can all agree that the Little Sisters of the Poor have demonstrated a fair amount of commitment to demanding religious principles.)

Instead, the administration chose to pick this fight — and got a definitive ruling that will probably have much broader impacts than quiet exceptions. Nor is this surprising; it was pretty predictable from earlier rulings like Citizens United, in which the court also held that people don’t lose their First Amendment rights simply because they have come together in a group or legally organized that group as a corporation.

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Conspicuously absent from yesterday’s post-Hobby Lobby hullabaloo was the acknowledgment on the left that the decision was the product of a court. Distilling into a single line what was a popular and widely disseminated critique, the New York Times’s Nick Kristof tweeted a picture of Justices Kennedy, Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito, sardonically labeling the quintet as “The experts on women’s health on the Supreme Court who ruled today against contraception coverage.” A few hours later, Senator Harry Reid’s office pushed out an assessment that was cut from the same unlovely cloth. “It’s time that five men on the Supreme Court stop deciding what happens to women,” Reid tweeted. Among the hysterical, that sentiment was ubiquitous.

One cannot help but wonder whether Kristof and Reid are aware of what the Supreme Court actually does — which, as anybody who has even a fleeting grasp of American civics knows, is not to set American policy, on health or anything else, but to interpret and uphold the law. In this particular case, the justices were called to judge whether a mandate that was pushed out by the Obama administration in 2012 was in conflict with another law, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, that was added to the books in 1992. This being so, the degree to which those who decided the case are “experts on women’s health” is wholly immaterial. The justices are jurists not doctors — they are nine appointed attorneys whose role in the American settlement is to provide legal answers to legal questions. Man or woman; straight or gay; handsome or ugly; Jew, Catholic, or protestant — the law must remain the law, regardless of in whose name its intricacies are decided. The alternative would be disastrous. Does Harry Reid aspire to see Roe v. Wade, which was decided by nine men, overturned?

Identity politics notwithstanding, the central implication of the Kristofs and Reids of the world — that the very involvement of the Court in this area is uncouth — is a rather strange one. The only way that such questions will not end up in the courts is if a political accommodation is reached: If Congress moves to reconcile its incompatible laws; if the Obama administration elects not to push the state into hitherto unthinkable areas; or if the Constitution is amended to render moot the question of what governments may require of the religious. In the absence of such action, the courts will inevitably be asked to intervene. Does the pair have a better way of resolving legal disputes? Is Marbury v. Madison to be reconsidered each time the result of a Supreme Court case is not to the liking of the New York Times?

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[H]uman nature being what it is, loss aversion is generally more potent than the joys of winning, and even a string of victories doesn’t necessarily satisfy; if anything, it can just sharpen the appetite for further victories still. This is why ascendant parties, no matter their ideology, are rarely magnanimous to the defeated or the disfavored: Where a transformative agenda is being pursued, one set of gains is more likely make the next set of items seem that much more necessary, more essential, more inarguably correct. And under such circumstances, residual, rear-guard resistance can actually inspire more outrage than a stronger opposition, because the winning side comes to feel that it’s offensive that anyone is still fighting — don’t they know the battle’s over, don’t they know that history’s verdict has been rendered? Will no one rid me of this troublesome craft store?

This last impulse, I would suggest, is particularly potent in cases where the transformation in question is not necessarily delivering on its promises, and where there’s a felt need to find someone outside the enlightened community/the holy Catholic empire/History’s vanguard to blame for that falling-short. Where our current kulturkampf is concerned, for instance, I think most contemporary liberals are aware that post-1960s America is not quite the liberated and egalitarian utopia that was promised … but many of them are quite determined to believe that their own ideology is blameless, that there aren’t actually any internal contradictions in social liberalism, and that contemporary social problems must always and everywhere be the fault of something called “conservatism,” in all its varied guises. The revolution hasn’t failed or fallen; it’s just been resisted and disrupted by wreckers and reactionaries; etc. Which is how you end up with the sense, palpable in the liberal Twitter reaction to the Hobby Lobby decision, that if it weren’t for Catholic Supreme Court justices and evangelical-owned craft stores, all sorts of problems would gradually be washed away, like tears in a soft progressive rain.

And perhaps, if current trends persist for long enough, we will get to actually test that proposition. But not yet, not yet.

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Via the Right Pundit.


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I’m gonna take a deep breath when I say this so as not to sound misogynistic, but I envision the dumb Lefties as permanently manless and want to pay men back by voting for dumbasses like Ogabe.

Is that too simplistic?

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 PM

I don’t think anyone is voting for Obama to try to pay men back. I don’t think it’s too simplistic, I just don’t see it being a plausible explanation for large numbers of votes.

I have to say, I really don’t understand why anyone is buying this crap. I really, really don’t. One of my married cousins who is a minister posted on Facebook about how terrible the Hobby Lobby decision was. Of course, she went to Harvard, so she was taught how not to think, but still.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 11:53 PM

Sweet dreams all
gophergirl on July 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM

Niters and sleep well, GG!

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:53 PM

G’night gg…

OmahaConservative on July 1, 2014 at 11:53 PM

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:52 PM

I have three kids and six grandkids now. Put me in picture with my oldest son and we look more like brother and sister than mother and son.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:53 PM

When you have principles that matter to you, then you work and work and work at expressing them better and trying to be more persuasive. You don’t give up, and simply try to be a pale imitation of your opponent.

The GOPe is like a bunch of twelve-year-olds who go with the flow of peer pressure because they want to be in with the in crowd.

The GOPe is not the stupid party, it is the unprincipled party.

INC on July 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM

That is so sad but true.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 11:54 PM

gophergirl on July 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM

Good night!

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:54 PM

But I do so some of women moving back towards traditional values, which is a good thing.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Not the women I run into at work…

PointnClick on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

If you are ‘running into’ women at work, they ceased to be females when they became roadkill.

lolz

Resist We Much on July 1, 2014 at 11:54 PM

PointnClick on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Your line of work is….well, outside the norm, PnC. And what state are you in? That can make a difference, too.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:52 PM

I don’t think I even want to know what his line of work is…

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:54 PM

Is San Ysidro in the U.S. or Mexico, because if it’s in the U.S. then problem not solved.

You can feel it coming though, the amnesty for everyone; word has somehow gotten out and they’re flooding north. Get your shots up to date while you can.

Bishop on July 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM

That’ll work ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM

Yesterday was very nice.

Schadenfreude on July 1, 2014 at 11:49 PM

Chuckle. Yes, it was.

INC on July 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM

San Ysidro is in San Diego County…

OmahaConservative on July 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM

San Diego County is in the USA…

OmahaConservative on July 1, 2014 at 11:56 PM

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:54 PM

ROFL. Why not? I think he’s a taxi driver. Or at least that what he says on his blog.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:56 PM

I don’t think I even want to know what his line of work is…
oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:54 PM

Let’s just say PnC’s gotten in touch with his Inner People Person…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:56 PM

I have to say, I really don’t understand why anyone is buying this crap. I really, really don’t. One of my married cousins who is a minister posted on Facebook about how terrible the Hobby Lobby decision was. Of course, she went to Harvard, so she was taught how not to think, but still.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 11:53 PM

In which church? Does she think God agrees with her stance?

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 11:57 PM

Tell us honestly, are you unstable?

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM

Luv, the unstable are always the last to know, doncha know?

Resist We Much on July 1, 2014 at 11:57 PM

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM

I’m a woman who’s been commenting here-almost nightly-for almost 8 years-and SHE needs to get a life?

annoyinglittletwerp on July 1, 2014 at 11:57 PM

Oohhhh, California, well…they won’t even make a dent on the current population of illegals.

I wonder when my state gets its share, specifically Gopher Girls district lorded-over by Betty McCollum and Keef Ellison(D-Mecca).

Bishop on July 1, 2014 at 11:58 PM

San Ysidro is in San Diego County…

OmahaConservative on July 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM

Or Northern Tijuana, depending on where you think the border is.

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:58 PM

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:53 PM

I have a little grey in the beard, but I can still climb a tree.

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:58 PM

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM

Luv, the unstable are always the last to know, doncha know?

Resist We Much on July 1, 2014 at 11:57 PM

Okay, I had to be told by a friend. But I got better.

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:58 PM

Chula Vista is NOT a border town, but San Ysidro is…

OmahaConservative on July 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM

You’re right. I associate Chula Vista with the amphitheater, which is right on the border. Seen some great concerts there, like Sade & the B-52s.

It is the most surreal thing. You’re sitting there watching a concert and in the background you see two massive fences, lit up like daylight with border patrol vehicles cruising back and forth between them.

MichaelGabriel on July 1, 2014 at 11:59 PM

I have to say, I really don’t understand why anyone is buying this crap. I really, really don’t. One of my married cousins who is a minister posted on Facebook about how terrible the Hobby Lobby decision was. Of course, she went to Harvard, so she was taught how not to think, but still.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 11:53 PM

She’s a woman who considers herself to be legitimate clergy.
There’s problem number 1.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2014 at 12:00 AM

Hi Sophie!

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:00 AM

That’ll work ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM

=)

Not about me or you, but someone

Styx – Too Much Time On My Hands

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:00 AM

I have a little grey in the beard, but I can still climb a tree.
KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:58 PM

So can I, but the trick nowadays is getting down safely…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:01 AM

She’s a woman who considers herself to be legitimate clergy.
There’s problem number 1.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2014 at 12:00 AM

+100000000

OmahaConservative on July 2, 2014 at 12:01 AM

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:52 PM

I have three kids and six grandkids now. Put me in picture with my oldest son and we look more like brother and sister than mother and son.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:53 PM

got you both beat.

5 kids, 12 grandkids.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 12:01 AM

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:54 PM

ROFL. Why not? I think he’s a taxi driver. Or at least that what he says on his blog.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:56 PM

I don’t think I even want to know what his line of work is…
oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:54 PM

Let’s just say PnC’s gotten in touch with his Inner People Person…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:56 PM

Well… I seem to recall him asking/joking for advice on how to get one of those electronic monitor things off his ankle…

oscarwilde on July 2, 2014 at 12:01 AM

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:58 PM

I started going white before I hit ten years old. After someone accused me of being my father’s wife on Mother’s Day this year, I dyed it. Dark Brown. Almost black. Works with blue eyes.

No way I’m going to settle for looking like I’m in my eighties when I’m not even close. Call me vain, but there is so no way that is happening!!!!

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:02 AM

She’s a woman who considers herself to be legitimate clergy.
There’s problem number 1.
annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2014 at 12:00 AM

Episcopalian?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:02 AM

I guess since you can never get the liberal trolls to discuss the Middle East, they must be down with obama’s interventions and are supportive of the atrocities committed by The Free Syrian Army terrorists.

It’s good to know where they stand.

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:02 AM

I’m a woman who’s been commenting here-almost nightly-for almost 8 years-and SHE needs to get a life?

annoyinglittletwerp on July 1, 2014 at 11:57 PM

Yes, uncoolrepublica does need to get a life lol

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:02 AM

oscarwilde on July 2, 2014 at 12:01 AM

Dang! That’s right, he did. I had forgotten about that.

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:03 AM

Well… I seem to recall him asking/joking for advice on how to get one of those electronic monitor things off his ankle…
oscarwilde on July 2, 2014 at 12:01 AM

That was from his “Top Ten Things I’ve Been Asked” list ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:03 AM

Grove of Eglintine

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:03 AM

Hiya, Ken!

Luv, the unstable are always the last to know, doncha know?

Resist We Much on July 1, 2014 at 11:57 PM

Okay, I had to be told by a friend. But I got better.

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:58 PM

snicker

Resist We Much on July 2, 2014 at 12:03 AM

I have a little grey in the beard, but I can still climb a tree.
KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:58 PM

So can I, but the trick nowadays is getting down safely…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:01 AM

I don’t have any problems getting out of the tree’s these days… I usually do have problems getting back up after the fall though…

oscarwilde on July 2, 2014 at 12:04 AM

Why is Megyn Kelly giving all this attention to Bill Ayers? Totally disgusting.

Fox news is getting worse all the time.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:04 AM

I started going white before I hit ten years old. After someone accused me of being my father’s wife on Mother’s Day this year, I dyed it. Dark Brown. Almost black. Works with blue eyes.

No way I’m going to settle for looking like I’m in my eighties when I’m not even close. Call me vain, but there is so no way that is happening!!!!

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:02 AM

My college roommate had black hair and she was getting gray at 16.

crankyoldlady on July 2, 2014 at 12:05 AM

I’m a woman who’s been commenting here-almost nightly-for almost 8 years-and SHE needs to get a life?
annoyinglittletwerp on July 1, 2014 at 11:57 PM

ALT, you HAVE a life–out of the house about five days a week, for a specified, scheduled time. Your time is put to a most constructive use for you, your company and your family.

Unlike the topic of conversation…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:06 AM

I started going white before I hit ten years old.

Problematic if you were born a poor black child.

Bishop on July 2, 2014 at 12:06 AM

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:02 AM

Knew a guy like that. Black hair at 16. All white by 18.

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:06 AM

who’ll stop the rain

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 12:06 AM

I don’t have any problems getting out of the tree’s these days… I usually do have problems getting back up after the fall though…

oscarwilde on July 2, 2014 at 12:04 AM

Falling isn’t the problem. It’s the landing.

crankyoldlady on July 2, 2014 at 12:06 AM

I don’t have any problems getting out of the tree’s these days… I usually do have problems getting back up after the fall though…
oscarwilde on July 2, 2014 at 12:04 AM

You need more branches closer to the ground ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:02 AM

Most protestant denoms ‘ordain’ women-as do both reformed and ‘conservative’ Judaism.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM

Good evening everyone :)

Bakokitty on July 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM

Your line of work is….well, outside the norm, PnC. And what state are you in? That can make a difference, too.

‘Course, what do I know? I’m in a purple state of SE coast where traditional values are still well within the norm. For now, anyway.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:52 PM

Florida… you’ve heard of us… if a WTF story is on the news, it has to come from Germany, Japan, or Florida…

Here’s an example… when I was a young single man, I would go to a club, I would screw together every drop of courage I could muster and ask a girl standing by the bar if she would like to dance, hoping I would not be rejected or mocked. But if she accepted, it would be door opener to a little chat, and we could see if we liked each other, and if there was a little chemistry happening there. If so, I’d go for the digits, and maybe call to ask her out again. If not, no big deal… we just danced… it didn’t mean anything.

Today, take that scenario and substitute “dance” with “make out”, and young people today view it the same way… swapping spit with some hunky guy in a dark corner of a bar doesn’t mean anything, and giving him your number doesn’t mean anything, and he’ll probable have you texting nood selfies in a day or two, if he is a good kisser and knows what he is doing with his hands…

They talk about it in my car all the time… they make out and get groped and fingered and groped, and it doesn’t mean anything…

I guess I am just getting old…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM

FYI I post links with the assumption that there is more than 15 people reading hotair.com.
coolrepublica on July 1, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Why don’t you get your own blog started and see how much traffic you can drive there? Might make an interesting hobby for you…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Blogging about what, links? Lol

Yeah I think that market if linking to content is crowded. Even drudge thinks it’s over saturated. But thank you for thinking me. You too should start a blog and advise people on what to do with their time. That one is wide open. Good luck!

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM

oscarwilde on July 2, 2014 at 12:04 AM

Falling isn’t the problem. It’s the landing.

crankyoldlady on July 2, 2014 at 12:06 AM

Yup… Takes a whole lot longer to get up afterwards too…

oscarwilde on July 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM

crankyoldlady on July 2, 2014 at 12:05 AM

I almost wish my was gray. It’s as white as the background on your screen, COL.

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Most protestant denoms ‘ordain’ women-as do both reformed and ‘conservative’ Judaism.
annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM

Wow. It HAS been a while for me… o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Why is Megyn Kelly giving all this attention to Bill Ayers? Totally disgusting.

Fox news is getting worse all the time.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:04 AM

It’s important to know what someone like that thinks. Too many of them are lurking in the shadows.

crankyoldlady on July 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM

I almost wish my was gray. It’s as white as the background on your screen, COL.
lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Peach or blue tint wouldn’t work, eh? :P

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:09 AM

Don’t mess with Israel. Just don’t, period.

tommy71 on July 2, 2014 at 12:09 AM

Yup… Takes a whole lot longer to get up afterwards too…
oscarwilde on July 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Have you tried moving the trampoline closer, Oscar?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:10 AM

I mentioned Murrieta because this is the second time citizens have stood up to the government and the government has backed down.

Bundy ranch was the first.

Once is an incident, twice is a trend, three times is a movement.

Resist.

MichaelGabriel on July 2, 2014 at 12:10 AM

I’m a woman who’s been commenting here-almost nightly-for almost 8 years-and SHE needs to get a life?

annoyinglittletwerp on July 1, 2014 at 11:57 PM

I hope the irony of your comment never reveals itself to you. XD

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:10 AM

I guess I am just getting old…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM

It’s partly that. The other part is how the standard have shifted. Here, this song is a good example….

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:11 AM

I almost wish my was gray. It’s as white as the background on your screen, COL.

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM

I always hoped that when I got old I would have white hair. I think it’s so attractive. Mine is still brown with some gray.

crankyoldlady on July 2, 2014 at 12:11 AM

Peach or blue tint wouldn’t work, eh? :P

Newtie and the Beauty on July 2, 2014 at 12:09 AM

Not just no, but Hell NO!

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:11 AM

There’s a mosquito in here. I keep hitting it and it gets up and flies away.

crankyoldlady on July 2, 2014 at 12:12 AM

Why is Megyn Kelly giving all this attention to Bill Ayers? Totally disgusting.

Fox news is getting worse all the time.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:04 AM

Did she ask him about Prairie Fire at least?

LGF Exclusive: Bill Ayers’ ‘Prairie Fire’ in PDF Form

A little green birdie dropped off a package for us; the PDF version of Barack Obama associates “Billy” Ayers’ and Bernardine Dohrn’s 1974 communist declaration of war against the United States.

Includes the dedication to Sirhan Sirhan, assassin of Robert F. Kennedy, on page 5.

You may have read about this book, or seen it mentioned on Hannity and Colmes, but you cannot appreciate how radically insane and violent it is until you read it for yourself.

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:12 AM

All of the horrific crimes against humanity in the video below were committed by the Free Syrian Army (FSA) Rebels. They were all made possible by the financial funding and the weapons supplied, courtesy of the Barack Hussein Obama administration.

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Here’s someone who really keeps on top of this.

http://shoebat.com/

VorDaj on July 2, 2014 at 12:12 AM

Problematic if you were born a poor black child.

Bishop on July 2, 2014 at 12:06 AM

Heh. Good one, Bishop

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:13 AM

I guess since you can never get the liberal trolls to discuss the Middle East, they must be down with obama’s interventions and are supportive of the atrocities committed by The Free Syrian Army terrorists.

It’s good to know where they stand.

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:02 AM

I’ll give you two examples from Norway taken from a piece that I wrote on Norwegian anti-semtism and multiculuralism several years ago:

First, homosexuality…

The leftist Norwegian Labour government’s Ministry of Children, Equality, and Social Inclusion named Mahdi Hassan, a noted homophobe, as the 2009 Role Model of the Year. He looks like a very nice chap. Of course, Mein Kampf probably looked like a good book in Germany in the 1920s judging by the cover.

Hassan told the newspaper Arbeidets Rett that he wants a ban on homosexuality, based on the Qur’an. Does he support the death penalty for gays? That’s “up to each individual country to decide, but, in general, yes.”

Was he condemned? Needless to say, the homosexual community wasn’t thrilled, but other than that he was cheered with the Socialists applauding loudly.

‘There is freedom of speech in Norway and in the Tynset Socialist Left Party we consider it unproblematic that Mahdi is opposed in principle to homosexuality. It is in accordance with his religion.’

- Stein Petter Løkken, leader of the Socialist Left Party in Hassan’s home kommune of Tynset

In November 2007 during an Oslo debate, at which the deputy chairman of Norway’s Islamic Council, Asghar Ali, was asked if he would refuse to reject the death penalty for gays. He refused. The head of the Islamic Council, which represents 80,000 Muslims), Senaid Kobilica was asked where he stood on the question, he responded that he couldn’t possibly give a definitive answer “until he got a ruling from the European Fatwa Council, but that homosexuality was against the teachings of the Qur’an and execution is the proscribed punishment.”

If it makes you feel any better, Kobilica did say that he was “100 per cent certain that the Council will not come out in favour of something which conflicts with European law.” By which he means, that while the death penalty for homosexuals is, indeed, an orthodox Islamic position — one about which the Fatwa Council’s head, Yusuf al-Qaradawi, has himself written sympathetically — Western Muslim leaders, in accordance with the Koran, prefer in such controversial cases not to challenge infidel law…for now.

‘It isn’t possible to live homosexually and at the same time say that one practices Islam. These are two incompatible things… Homosexuality goes against what Islam stands for, and therefore it can’t be combined.’

– Senaid Kobilica

After the brouhaha in 2007, it emerged that Asghar Ali not only was deputy chairman of the Islamic Council, but was also on the board of the Oslo Arbeidersamfunn, the largest and most influential association within Norway’s ruling Labour Party. As Bruce Bawer reported, when asked about Ali’s views, the head of the Oslo Arbeidersamfunn, Anne Cathrine Berger, lamented that some people “can’t see the difference between a board member’s views and the organisation’s views.” Despite scattered calls for his dismissal, Ali remained on the board.

Recently, a gay couple was attacked for holding hands; they were told that gays were not welcome because the area in which they were walking in was “Muslim territory.” On another occasion, a gay couple was ejected from a kebab restaurant because they were kissing. These as well as other incidents led to a debate in the major newspapers about the existence of morality police, who strove to obtain social control based on Islamic values in multi-ethnic communities.

Kaltham Lie, who was tortured for his sexual orientation by Saddam Hussein and fled Iraq for Norway in 1992, says that it was too difficult to go to the mosque. As Norway’s first openly gay Muslim, he now stays away from the Muslim community, especially in Oslo. “It’s very important for me to be open and not to try to hide. Somebody must stand up for the world to advance. “Oslo can be difficult, but we he also a lot of positive things, even in Grønland.”

He attends a Christian church with his new husband, Knut Asprusten. “[H]e was with me in church. Even if we have different religions, we both believe in an open God. It doesn’t cause us any problems,” said Asprusten.

In a country of 5 million people, where only 3% of the population is Muslim, there is only one openly Muslim lesbian: Sara Azmeh Rasmussen.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2014 at 12:13 AM

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:10 AM
I was poking fun @ MYSELF.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2014 at 12:14 AM

PnC; Yep, yer getting old. Don’t feel bad. The STD’s have evolved too. You don’t wanna know.

DemetriusPhalerum on July 2, 2014 at 12:14 AM

It’s important to know what someone like that thinks. Too many of them are lurking in the shadows.

crankyoldlady on July 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Well maybe. But I have no desire to hear it, so changed the channel.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:14 AM

Joe B. woke up dreaming

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 2, 2014 at 12:14 AM

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:06 AM

Mine didn’t change quite that quickly. I had one streak on the left side of my head for years, then it spread when I got into my late twenties and early thirties.

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:15 AM

It’s partly that. The other part is how the standard have shifted. Here, this song is a good example….

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:11 AM

Most of the people in that video look way too classy…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:15 AM

Good evening everyone :)

Bakokitty on July 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM

Hello =)

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:15 AM

deeply decided Israel sees a larger purpose.

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:16 AM

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:10 AM
I was poking fun @ MYSELF.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2014 at 12:14 AM

Oh good!

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:17 AM

You may have read about this book, or seen it mentioned on Hannity and Colmes, but you cannot appreciate how radically insane and violent it is until you read it for yourself.

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:12 AM

I’m sure that’s true. And to think this is someone Obama knows, along with the ‘Reverend’.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:17 AM

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:15 AM

There was this woman who took Metro North into the city at my stop who had one of those streaks. I wanted one so badly.

CoffeeLover on July 2, 2014 at 12:17 AM

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Do you support Obama’s intervention and funding of rebel’s in Syria?

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:18 AM

Man walks into British bank and poops several times before calmly walking out

OmahaConservative on July 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM

Not news in the uncoolrepublica home-that’s the everyday norm.

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:18 AM

There was this woman who took Metro North into the city at my stop who had one of those streaks. I wanted one so badly.

CoffeeLover on July 2, 2014 at 12:17 AM

They can give you one at the beauty parlor.

crankyoldlady on July 2, 2014 at 12:19 AM

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:16 AM

Being that I’m Jewish-I have no need to click on any links to the evil deathstar.
I can get more accurate/less biased info elsewhere.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2014 at 12:19 AM

Most of the people in that video look way too classy…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:15 AM

Oh, I’d agree with that. In real life, the makeup looks trashy…along with body parts hanging over clothing that’s either too tight or to small…

But it took me aback the first time I heard that song…seriously…women talking about having someone “hit it”? Seriously?

Man, we lost a lot in this country!

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:19 AM

It’s important to know what someone like that thinks. Too many of them are lurking in the shadows.

crankyoldlady on July 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Well maybe. But I have no desire to hear it, so changed the channel.

cat_owner on July 2, 2014 at 12:14 AM

Husband said that if Ayers was paid ANYTHING to be on the show-my husband will never watch FNC again.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2014 at 12:20 AM

PnC; Yep, yer getting old. Don’t feel bad. The STD’s have evolved too. You don’t wanna know.

DemetriusPhalerum on July 2, 2014 at 12:14 AM

Damn, right… I get opportunities, but I wouldn’t go for it double-bagged. Back when I first started this job, I got a call to pick up a hooker named “Juicy”… 11 bucks on the meter, and she asked me if I wanted cash or “something else”…

Yeah, you can keep that to yourself… any girl that will perform a sex act for 11 bucks will likely give you something they haven’t gotten around to naming yet…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:20 AM

I hope the irony of your comment never reveals itself to you. XD

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:10 AM

I guess you’re too stupid to pick out the self-deprecating humor too?

Irony of a comment, inside of the irony.

pffft

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:21 AM

They talk about it in my car all the time… they make out and get groped and fingered and groped, and it doesn’t mean anything…

I guess I am just getting old…

PointnClick on July 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM

Stupid parents raising narcissists with little to no self-respect. And it keeps getting worse.

non-nonpartisan on July 2, 2014 at 12:21 AM

Live just up the road from Murrieta, where they protested the busloads of illegals and forced them all the way down to Chula Vista on the Mexican border.

Has this happened anywhere else?

MichaelGabriel on July 1, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Several other cities/towns have protested and successfully stopped the ILLEGALS from being sent there.

- Escondido CA
- Small town in Virginia
- Baltimore Maryland (politicians objected)

are examples that come to mind. These examples stopped the ILLEGALS before they boarded the busses though.

Murietta is the first place I have seen busses turned around. Keep up the good work, Murietta!

If you want a good source to follow where the ILLEGALS are being sent, check out this site:

http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/

This website also has a handy list of phone numbers to call to find out if there are plans to send the ILLEGALS to your area.

Every city/town/state needs to protest at the first hint of ILLEGALS heading their way!

Call your Governors, Senators & Representatives to find out what they are doing to protect their states from these ILLEGALS!

wren on July 2, 2014 at 12:21 AM

CoffeeLover on July 2, 2014 at 12:17 AM

I have to admit that I really enjoyed those years when it was one streak on that side.

Ah, well, those days are just so long gone now. Bottle brunette I’ll be for a few more years yet. ;-)

lineholder on July 2, 2014 at 12:21 AM

Do you support Obama’s intervention and funding of rebel’s in Syria?

hawkdriver on July 2, 2014 at 12:18 AM

No I do not. Thank you for asking and not just assuming.

coolrepublica on July 2, 2014 at 12:22 AM

VH

KCB on July 2, 2014 at 12:23 AM

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