Quotes of the day

posted at 10:31 pm on July 1, 2014 by Allahpundit

[A]s John J. Dilulio Jr., the first director of the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, writes over at Brookings, “Love it or loathe it, the Hobby Lobby decision is limited in scope.” It’s about how the Religious Freedom Restoration Act applies to this particular objection from Hobby Lobby and other “closely held” companies, or businesses that are mostly owned by a small group of people who also happen to run them. And the Court went out of its way to clarify that their ruling does not apply to other possible medical objections, like blood transfusions and vaccinations.

Most importantly, this ruling won’t necessarily prevent women who work at Hobby Lobby, Conestoga Wood, or other religious companies from accessing birth control through their insurance plans. In the majority opinion, Alito specifically suggests that the government could use the same kind of exemption it has set up for non-profit organizations: Companies would have to sign a short document certifying that they object to providing birth-control coverage, and then the government would take over coverage from there. Several separate court cases about this accommodation are still pending in lower courts, but the point is that the Court doesn’t think bosses should get to deny affordable birth-control access to their employees—they just shouldn’t necessarily have to pay for it.

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Roy continues: “[W]hile the government can’t compel Hobby Lobby to finance abortifacients, it can compel taxpayers to do so. Isn’t that a distinction without a difference?” I think there is a difference. The government can let pacifists out of military service without letting them out of paying taxes to support the military, and nobody believes that distinction meaningless. Pro-lifers should object to having their tax dollars spent on abortifacients. But it’s worse for pro-lifers to be forced to offer insurance that covers them. It’s worse because it requires more direct cooperation on their part, and because it carries a greater risk of communicating an untruth about their moral conviction.

Roy’s arguments and mine bear a family resemblance to ones that got aired during the debate over the individual mandate. Most opponents of it argued that there was a difference in principle between being forced to pay taxes that are then used to provide insurance and being forced to buy insurance. If you think that argument holds up (as I do, and most conservatives do), the distinction holds up here as well.

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Ginsburg’s dissent begins by calling the decision one of “startling breadth.” The high court ruled that under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, the government cannot require “closely held” corporations–those with most of their stock owned by fewer than five individuals–whose owners possess “sincerely religious beliefs” against the use of contraception to provide health insurance to employees that covers birth control. Ginsburg fears that the majority has “ventured into a minefield” with the decision, which could allow corporations to “opt out of any law” that “they judge incompatible with their sincerely held religious beliefs.”…

Ginsburg’s opinion, some legal experts say, may turn out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. By stating that the opinion is much broader than the majority claims it to be, she may be providing lower-court judges with a stronger foundation to provide more religious exemptions in the future.

“If the dissenters had simply taken Kennedy at his word in his concurrence, and simply agreed it was narrow, the lower court judges would have had to work very hard to say this applies broadly,” said Eric Segall, a professor at Georgia State University College of Law. “Now they can just cite Ginsburg, and say she thought it applied broadly.”

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The court cited the government’s ability to meet women’s need for affordable access to contraception in other ways, specifically pointing to government provision of birth control as an option. But in the current reproductive rights environment, that will never happen. Opponents of reproductive rights are trying to limit access to comprehensive women’s health care from all directions. At the federal level, they have attempted to defund Title X, which provides funding for family planning for our poorest sisters in community clinics. At the state level, in Texas for example, there are attacks on government money for contraception and clinics that offer abortion care. There is a movement to prohibit government support not only for abortion services—which, with a few exceptions, has existed for three decades—but also for emergency contraception and certain forms of birth control. Even a woman’s ability to pay for her own coverage is under attack: Some states’ exchanges and the federal exchange are prohibited from providing insurance that covers abortion care.

In sum, the anti-choice movement wants to limit not just affordable access, but all access to abortion and birth control, whether it is backed by the government, by employers, or purchased by private citizens. It is an attack at all levels, and today’s decision is just another success in these efforts.

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I like to think that I care about both the women and the religious conservatives who share this great nation of ours. It seemed to me from the beginning that being made to pay for something that someone views as deeply morally wrong (or to facilitate the transaction for same, if you take the general view that employee health insurance ultimately comes out of employee wages) was going to be a giant burden on people of conscience. And because the loss to women was small, it seemed fairly obvious to me that we should grant the freedom of conscience to people who clearly have some very deeply held beliefs — not because women’s health is not very important, but because this was not going to have a very important impact on women’s health.

And yet the logic of politics, and the culture war, made this sort of fine distinction-drawing impossible. As I see it, this case should never have made it to the court; the Barack Obama administration should have pre-empted the issue by quietly allowing exemptions for nonprofits and closely held corporations that had clear and deep religious beliefs that existed outside of the desire not to pay for contraception. (Hobby Lobby, for example, is closed on Sundays in observation of the Sabbath, even though this costs them sales; I think we can all agree that the Little Sisters of the Poor have demonstrated a fair amount of commitment to demanding religious principles.)

Instead, the administration chose to pick this fight — and got a definitive ruling that will probably have much broader impacts than quiet exceptions. Nor is this surprising; it was pretty predictable from earlier rulings like Citizens United, in which the court also held that people don’t lose their First Amendment rights simply because they have come together in a group or legally organized that group as a corporation.

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Conspicuously absent from yesterday’s post-Hobby Lobby hullabaloo was the acknowledgment on the left that the decision was the product of a court. Distilling into a single line what was a popular and widely disseminated critique, the New York Times’s Nick Kristof tweeted a picture of Justices Kennedy, Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito, sardonically labeling the quintet as “The experts on women’s health on the Supreme Court who ruled today against contraception coverage.” A few hours later, Senator Harry Reid’s office pushed out an assessment that was cut from the same unlovely cloth. “It’s time that five men on the Supreme Court stop deciding what happens to women,” Reid tweeted. Among the hysterical, that sentiment was ubiquitous.

One cannot help but wonder whether Kristof and Reid are aware of what the Supreme Court actually does — which, as anybody who has even a fleeting grasp of American civics knows, is not to set American policy, on health or anything else, but to interpret and uphold the law. In this particular case, the justices were called to judge whether a mandate that was pushed out by the Obama administration in 2012 was in conflict with another law, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, that was added to the books in 1992. This being so, the degree to which those who decided the case are “experts on women’s health” is wholly immaterial. The justices are jurists not doctors — they are nine appointed attorneys whose role in the American settlement is to provide legal answers to legal questions. Man or woman; straight or gay; handsome or ugly; Jew, Catholic, or protestant — the law must remain the law, regardless of in whose name its intricacies are decided. The alternative would be disastrous. Does Harry Reid aspire to see Roe v. Wade, which was decided by nine men, overturned?

Identity politics notwithstanding, the central implication of the Kristofs and Reids of the world — that the very involvement of the Court in this area is uncouth — is a rather strange one. The only way that such questions will not end up in the courts is if a political accommodation is reached: If Congress moves to reconcile its incompatible laws; if the Obama administration elects not to push the state into hitherto unthinkable areas; or if the Constitution is amended to render moot the question of what governments may require of the religious. In the absence of such action, the courts will inevitably be asked to intervene. Does the pair have a better way of resolving legal disputes? Is Marbury v. Madison to be reconsidered each time the result of a Supreme Court case is not to the liking of the New York Times?

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[H]uman nature being what it is, loss aversion is generally more potent than the joys of winning, and even a string of victories doesn’t necessarily satisfy; if anything, it can just sharpen the appetite for further victories still. This is why ascendant parties, no matter their ideology, are rarely magnanimous to the defeated or the disfavored: Where a transformative agenda is being pursued, one set of gains is more likely make the next set of items seem that much more necessary, more essential, more inarguably correct. And under such circumstances, residual, rear-guard resistance can actually inspire more outrage than a stronger opposition, because the winning side comes to feel that it’s offensive that anyone is still fighting — don’t they know the battle’s over, don’t they know that history’s verdict has been rendered? Will no one rid me of this troublesome craft store?

This last impulse, I would suggest, is particularly potent in cases where the transformation in question is not necessarily delivering on its promises, and where there’s a felt need to find someone outside the enlightened community/the holy Catholic empire/History’s vanguard to blame for that falling-short. Where our current kulturkampf is concerned, for instance, I think most contemporary liberals are aware that post-1960s America is not quite the liberated and egalitarian utopia that was promised … but many of them are quite determined to believe that their own ideology is blameless, that there aren’t actually any internal contradictions in social liberalism, and that contemporary social problems must always and everywhere be the fault of something called “conservatism,” in all its varied guises. The revolution hasn’t failed or fallen; it’s just been resisted and disrupted by wreckers and reactionaries; etc. Which is how you end up with the sense, palpable in the liberal Twitter reaction to the Hobby Lobby decision, that if it weren’t for Catholic Supreme Court justices and evangelical-owned craft stores, all sorts of problems would gradually be washed away, like tears in a soft progressive rain.

And perhaps, if current trends persist for long enough, we will get to actually test that proposition. But not yet, not yet.

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Via the Right Pundit.


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What is this fascination in telling me you are not clicking on my links? Why not just not click on the link and be done with it. It is as if you don’t like the story just because I linked to it. Would you get mad if I link to story about how Jesus has changed someone’s life. Don’t get coolrepublica derangement syndrome. It’s not good for your health. lol

FYI I post links with the assumption that there is more than 15 people reading hotair.com.

coolrepublica on July 1, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Where did I say I wasn’t clicking on your links here you idiot? What’s your fascination with deflecting any and all criticism of the worst US President in history?

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:26 PM

bimmcorp on July 1, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Be careful…

OmahaConservative on July 1, 2014 at 11:26 PM

CoffeeLover on July 1, 2014 at 11:21 PM

I live in Austin. By RI, If you mean Newport, I have seen them. They are the most awesome mansions I had ever seen, until today.

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:26 PM

One last note:

coolrepublica on July 1, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Blah, blah, blah… Pfffffffffffft….

bimmcorp on July 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

My lady has a family reunion in Knoxville. We got an early start and met my cousin in Asheville last night. There was wine.

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:24 PM

…beautiful country around Asheville…my favorite is a little town 40 miles north of their…Banner Elk, N.C.

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Schadenfreude on July 1, 2014 at 11:22 PM

I pretty well knew that was coming with healthcare facilities. Wonder how they’re billing it off?

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

OK, so when does Boehner’s ballsack descend?

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:18 PM

After he cries for the last time. /

Resist We Much on July 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Here’s my question:
Are we about to celebrate the 4th of July,
or are we about to celebrate Independence Day?

Think carefully before you reply.

Galtian on July 1, 2014 at 11:17 PM

That would be INDEPENDENCE DAY.

4th of July is celebrated by car dealerships with deals,
grocery stores with deals, department stores with deals,
and Hallmark, er well no, I guess Hallmark Does not
celebrate with cards….maybe they do, hell, I don’t know..

ToddPA on July 1, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Iran hearts solar energy.

coolrepublica on July 1, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Been there…

done that….

Electrongod on July 1, 2014 at 11:06 PM

.
Do you think the Iranians will have the solar panels to harvest roughly 6 simulataneous fusion sources 6 klicks above ground?

PolAgnostic on July 1, 2014 at 11:28 PM

PointnClick on July 1, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Nice to see you!

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Honest question – why do women believe such blatant BS?

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:04 PM

I don’t know.

I don’t know if Clinton and Warren and Pelosi aren’t able to realize what they are saying. I don’t know if they are just mouthing political points without thinking them through. I don’t know if they believe it.

The media is repeating it 24/7. I think they believe it. I really do. I think the majority of people in the US media are weapons grade stupid. My impression is that less than 5% of the US media have the ability to analyze data or concepts or statements and come to a logically correct conclusions. Think about global warming coverage, for example. Or the widespread acceptance that an attack on a US embassy on the anniversary of 9/11 done with rocket launchers was a spontaneous protest in response to an obscure Youtube video.

If the media repeats something often enough, such as “Women can’t get birth control unless their employers pay for it.” people (male and female) start to accept it as true, and no longer take the time to look at the background to the statement, even though 98% of women had used birth control prior to the ACA and almost everyone has been in a drugstore and seen condoms for sale. So if people take the time to think about it, they would realize that the media and Democrats are making the whole thing up. Unfortunately, the media, most of whom are very stupid, repeats the false mantra hundreds to thousands to tens of thousands of times. People stop thinking about it and just repeat it.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 11:28 PM

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:24 PM

sounds wonderful Ken. Enjoy!

CoffeeLover on July 1, 2014 at 11:28 PM

US Navy gets it’s FIRST female 4 star admiral.

GO Navy!!!!

coolrepublica on July 1, 2014 at 11:29 PM

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

It’s so pretty up that way! I have a former boss that lives in Boone with his family. They had a rough winter last year though…lots of snow.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:29 PM

FYI I post links with the assumption that there is more than 15 people reading hotair.com.
coolrepublica on July 1, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Why don’t you get your own blog started and see how much traffic you can drive there? Might make an interesting hobby for you…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:30 PM

After he cries for the last time. /

Resist We Much on July 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

So that means it stays tucked up there as if he is wading in Lake Superior.

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:30 PM

…beautiful country around Asheville…my favorite is a little town 40 miles north of their…Banner Elk, N.C.

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Truth. We drove through the mountains today. I am from VA so I went through them on family vacations in my youth. It had been too long. Amazing.

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:31 PM

President obama supports wrong side of Syrian War.

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Is there a right side? No Sarc, I just can’t keep up. I think I am being Alinskied.

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:03 PM

It would not appear to me that either side is worthy of US support.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Electrongod on July 1, 2014 at 11:06 PM

.
Do you think the Iranians will have the solar panels to harvest roughly 6 simulataneous fusion sources 6 klicks above ground?

PolAgnostic on July 1, 2014 at 11:28 PM

I don’t know, but I say we put that question to the test…

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:31 PM

For Cozmo at least?
Judge_Dredd on July 1, 2014 at 11:23 PM

I don’t know if’n Cozmo can handle that much cuteness all at once…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:31 PM

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:26 PM

You did confuse me there fella :) Yes those were the ones I saw many years ago. So this one has those beat huh? Have you seen the Hearst Mansion in CA? That one is pretty dang good too. LOL

CoffeeLover on July 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Nice to see you!

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:28 PM

You as well… was really busy last week with Gay Pride, and I probably won’t be back till next Monday… 4th is a Friday, which means people will start drinking on Thursday, so this week will be a 4 day liver torture test.

Oh, and add to the list of odd objects found in my car: a soaking wet pair of male briefs… I gotta get some nitrile gloves…

PointnClick on July 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Judge_Dredd on July 1, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Hey JD…

OmahaConservative on July 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM

A Jerusalem cross (aka “crusades cross”)works well too.

Shay on July 1, 2014 at 11:21 PM


Bonus points
for the historical sting!

PolAgnostic on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Lovin’ all the Skynyrd…

OmahaConservative on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 PM

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 11:28 PM

I’m gonna take a deep breath when I say this so as not to sound misogynistic, but I envision the dumb Lefties as permanently manless and want to pay men back by voting for dumbasses like Ogabe.

Is that too simplistic?

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 PM

CCR bad moon risin

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 1, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Live just up the road from Murrieta, where they protested the busloads of illegals and forced them all the way down to Chula Vista on the Mexican border.

Has this happened anywhere else?

MichaelGabriel on July 1, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Why don’t you get your own blog started and see how much traffic you can drive there? Might make an interesting hobby for you…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:30 PM

What kind of person would act like she does except a loser? She’s a cypher. Do you think “she”‘s not getting some sort of compensation for being here?

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 11:35 PM

All of the horrific crimes against humanity in the video below were committed by the Free Syrian Army (FSA) Rebels. They were all made possible by the financial funding and the weapons supplied, courtesy of the Barack Hussein Obama administration.

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:34 PM

The video’s no longer exist…

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:35 PM

No video there, Hawk…

PointnClick on July 1, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Honest question – why do women believe such blatant BS?
8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Doc can correct me, but I believe pregnancy is the ONLY medical condition where one takes medication to prevent. That is why, for the longest time, health insurance companies didn’t cover birth control pills–at least, that’s how it was explained to me back in the 1980s.

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

So that means it stays tucked up there as if he is wading in Lake Superior.

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:30 PM

George Costanza had nothing on The Weeper of the House.

Resist We Much on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 PM

It simplistic but not that far off from being the truth. I think they would elect anyone they think will undermine traditional values, because they see traditional marriage as a force of oppression in the lives of women

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

CoffeeLover on July 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM

haven’t seen Hearst. This is advertised as the largest home in the US. It blows the Newport mansions away. It is more of a castle.

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Live just up the road from Murrieta, where they protested the busloads of illegals and forced them all the way down to Chula Vista on the Mexican border.

Has this happened anywhere else?

MichaelGabriel on July 1, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Practically almost neighbors…

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

She’s a cypher.
non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Cyber Cipher’s collie has more to add to the overall conversation.

Judge_Dredd on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

MichaelGabriel on July 1, 2014 at 11:34 PM

I saw the pics on the Twitchy earlier. Good for them. No clue where they turned those buses too though.

Schad

That article from the Fox reporter was awesome. His descriptions made me angry and grossed me out at the same time.

CoffeeLover on July 1, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Oh, and add to the list of odd objects found in my car: a soaking wet pair of male briefs… I gotta get some nitrile gloves…

PointnClick on July 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Does an ultraviolet light help?

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM

CCR bad moon risin
Fred
jrsrigmvr on July 1, 2014 at 11:34 PM

*smooooch!*

[slides Fred a Double Whatchudrinkin'...enters under "Teamster Service"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Scabies, lice, measles, pox, our new amigos flooding the border have it all and the feds are stuffing them on public transport without out being treated. As any lib can tell you, lice travel fast and spread like wildfire.

Those are just the diseases and infestations that are more apparent, imagine what we can’t see which is being coughed into our air.

But hey, as long as the Ruling Class makes sure that Suzie Flatback can get herself some action with every bum in town and not have to worry about how to cover the cost of the johnny-hoods, then it’s all cool.

Bishop on July 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM

(lurking)

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM

I think they would elect anyone they think will undermine traditional values, because they see traditional marriage as a force of oppression in the lives of women

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

men should be the bitter ones, with the divorce courts and all. Why can’t women be like my mom? I just don’t get it….

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:39 PM

You’re the nobody. A hollow shell of empty words and lies. You could simple type the word “fart” for every one of your comments and it would be as compelling.

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:18 PM

…she did a months worth of F@ck You’s the other day!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 11:39 PM

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Good to know if I ever get back up that way.

CoffeeLover on July 1, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Cyber Cipher’s collie has more to add to the overall conversation.

Judge_Dredd on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

We all know that lol

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Prolly loaded with malware, viruses and other nasty, evil stuff.. I ain’t following any of ‘em…

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PolAgnostic on July 1, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Has this happened anywhere else?

MichaelGabriel on July 1, 2014 at 11:34 PM

I didn’t hear that.

crankyoldlady on July 1, 2014 at 11:39 PM

(lurking)

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM

(We can see you…)

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:40 PM

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:03 PM

It would not appear to me that either side is worthy of US support.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Fair enough. But thanks to obama and Kerry, the world looks at Putin and Russia as the real fighters of terrorism in supporting the Assad Regime. By constantly funding and training the forces that ultimately have become Jabhat Al Nusrah, ISIS and ISIL, obama has managed to make Putin look like a world leader for peace while supporting one of the Middle East’s Iron fisted dictators.

It does not help the fact that Christians and even Jews lived in Syrian society safe from persecution until obama gave rise to the so-called Free Syrian Army.

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:40 PM

(lurking)

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Hold the line
Nah nah nah nah
Love isn’t always on time
Woah woah woah-oh

Judge_Dredd on July 1, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Lovin’ all the Skynyrd…
OmahaConservative on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 PM

*smoooooch!*

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:41 PM

The buses went to San Ysidro (or something like that) wherever that is.

Bishop on July 1, 2014 at 11:41 PM

I’ve always thought the downfall of conservatives/the GOP is that we think people are smarter than they are. We don’t have to explain things because we assume people read the news like we do.

Liberals just know that a majority of the electorate are uninformed idiots and they play to the lowest common denominator.

gophergirl on July 1, 2014 at 11:20 PM

I agree on the conservatives making the mistake of thinking voters are smart enough to figure out what’s really going on.

I’m not sure whether liberals are working to play to the lowest common denominator or whether they are so dumb they actually believe the things they say.

I think Obama is dumb enough that he believes a lot of the things he says, sort of an typically stupid liberal, but if DWS believes most of what she says, that is really scary.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Does an ultraviolet light help?

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Not sure I get the question… you mean to help see them? If so, they were black, so probably not.

PointnClick on July 1, 2014 at 11:41 PM

…she did a months worth of F@ck You’s the other day!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Dr. Smith once referred to the robot as a mechanical lie dispenser.

Judge_Dredd on July 1, 2014 at 11:42 PM

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:40 PM

I share your frustration, but Zero has fucked this up so bad, I don’t know who to trust or back. And I still think it is by design. So, what now?

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:42 PM

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 11:39 PM

I saw that. I thought that kind of trolling would be worthy of a ban.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 11:42 PM

The buses went to San Ysidro (or something like that) wherever that is.

Bishop on July 1, 2014 at 11:41 PM

That’s the US Mexican border.

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:42 PM

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Truthfully, the Sexual Revolution of the 60s and 70s turned the moral and ethical standards in the US upside down. Many a woman ended being misled and deceived by that environment. And now we’re going into second and third generation of that influence.

But I do so some of women moving back towards traditional values, which is a good thing.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:43 PM

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 11:35 PM

[grabs ALT...drags her over...]

She. Needs. A. Hobby.

[OK, ALT...do your thang...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Have you ever seen the rain

*smooooch!*

[slides Fred a Double Whatchudrinkin'...enters under "Teamster Service"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Smooch back at ya. Jack & Coke please.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on July 1, 2014 at 11:44 PM

I’ve always thought the downfall of conservatives/the GOP is that we think people are smarter than they are. We don’t have to explain things because we assume people read the news like we do.

Liberals just know that a majority of the electorate are uninformed idiots and they play to the lowest common denominator.

gophergirl on July 1, 2014 at 11:20 PM

That’s always been my assessment.

crankyoldlady on July 1, 2014 at 11:44 PM

…HAPPY CANADA DAY…my northern brother!
…hope the beavers had fun!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Judge_Dredd on July 1, 2014 at 11:40 PM

ROFL. Yeah, my theme song!

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:44 PM

But thanks to obama and Kerry, the world looks at Putin and Russia as the real fighters of terrorism in supporting the Assad Regime. By constantly funding and training the forces that ultimately have become Jabhat Al Nusrah, ISIS and ISIL, obama has managed to make Putin look like a world leader for peace while supporting one of the Middle East’s Iron fisted dictators.

It does not help the fact that Christians and even Jews lived in Syrian society safe from persecution until obama gave rise to the so-called Free Syrian Army.

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:40 PM

To be fair, essentially everything Obama does makes Putin look like the defender of the free world and staunch opponent of terrorists by comparison

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 11:44 PM

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:43 PM

my two 20 something daughters are conservative, for which I am thankful.

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Yes, Happy Canada Day, Canopfor, wherever you are.

crankyoldlady on July 1, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Practically almost neighbors…

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Hey neighbor.

I saw the pics on the Twitchy earlier. Good for them. No clue where they turned those buses too though

CoffeeLover on July 1, 2014 at 11:37 PM

I heard Chula Vista, which is just across the border from Tiajuana. The border fence there is as fortified as you’ll see anywhere.

Conservatives are on the front lines here in the I.E. and the last thing we need is planeloads of illegals flown in from Texas.

MichaelGabriel on July 1, 2014 at 11:45 PM

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:34 PM

The video’s no longer exist…

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:35 PM

That’s too bad. Those two were the best documented videos I’ve seen, that censored the actual images and still chronicled the executions. Anything else I’ve seen of the FSA, I wouldn’t post here.

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:45 PM

So Kennedy says the decision is narrow. Ginsberg says otherwise.

And SUDDENLY all the lower courts will follow what Ginsberg has to say?

GarandFan on July 1, 2014 at 11:45 PM

The video’s no longer exist…

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:35 PM

No video there, Hawk…

PointnClick on July 1, 2014 at 11:35 PM

.
YouTube links …they were GONE with the first email from CAIR.

PolAgnostic on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Blah, blah, blah… Pfffffffffffft….

bimmcorp on July 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

That is what you should have done in your head genius before you went on your rant about links. Lol

Some people are always looking for a fight. Never a day off.

coolrepublica on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Yes, Happy Canada Day, Canopfor, wherever you are.

crankyoldlady on July 1, 2014 at 11:45 PM

He’s probably being chased around by an overly amours Canadian Beaver right now…

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

my two 20 something daughters are conservative, for which I am thankful.

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Both my daughter and daughter-in-law are as well. And raising their kids to be, too.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

But I do so some of women moving back towards traditional values, which is a good thing.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Not the women I run into at work…

PointnClick on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Smooch back at ya. Jack & Coke please.
Fred
jrsrigmvr on July 1, 2014 at 11:44 PM

My Pleasure, Fred!

[slides Fred a Double Jack & Coke...enters under "Gearshifters Anonymous Meeting"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:47 PM

I pretty well knew that was coming with healthcare facilities. Wonder how they’re billing it off?

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

“The security forces call themselves the brown shirts”.

It’s no longer the USA; it’s similar to N. Korea of Hitler’s time.

It’s a violation of the 1st. If the doctors don’t speak out they are complicit in spreading the diseases and in encamping themselves and the population. This needs total disobedience if the land is to remain, alas.

Schadenfreude on July 1, 2014 at 11:47 PM

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:18 PM

…she did a months worth of F@ck You’s the other day!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 11:39 PM

She can’t control her emotions. She barely hides it in her comments. I honestly think she’s unstable. Don’t you get the weird vibe from her?

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:48 PM

my two 20 something daughters are conservative, for which I am thankful.

8 weight on July 1, 2014 at 11:44 PM

My kids too. You raised them right.

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Some people are I’m always looking for a fight. Never a day off.
coolrepublica on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

FIFY…

Now PEE OFF!

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Schadenfreude on July 1, 2014 at 11:47 PM

The government has healthcare orgs over the barrel now, Schad. Too much reimbursements coming from the federal government.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:49 PM

Some people are always looking for a fight. Never a day off.

coolrepublica on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Yesterday was very nice.

Schadenfreude on July 1, 2014 at 11:49 PM

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:48 PM

How many kids do you have, Ken?

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM

Practically almost neighbors…

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Hey neighbor.

I saw the pics on the Twitchy earlier. Good for them. No clue where they turned those buses too though

CoffeeLover on July 1, 2014 at 11:37 PM

I heard Chula Vista, which is just across the border from Tiajuana. The border fence there is as fortified as you’ll see anywhere.

Conservatives are on the front lines here in the I.E. and the last thing we need is planeloads of illegals flown in from Texas.

MichaelGabriel on July 1, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Channel 8 news said San Ysidro, but lot’s of folks not from San Diego don’t realize how small San Ysidro is or that it’s in-between Chula Vista and the Border.

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM

I heard Chula Vista, which is just across the border from Tiajuana. The border fence there is as fortified as you’ll see anywhere.

Conservatives are on the front lines here in the I.E. and the last thing we need is planeloads of illegals flown in from Texas.

MichaelGabriel on July 1, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Chula Vista is NOT a border town, but San Ysidro is…

OmahaConservative on July 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM

bimmcorp on July 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM

That is what you should have done in your head genius before you went on your rant about links. Lol

Some people are always looking for a fight. Never a day off.

coolrepublica on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

You accused me of making the comment I didn’t click your links. Now you think it’s bimmcorp. Tell us honestly, are you unstable?

hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM

The government has healthcare orgs over the barrel now, Schad. Too much reimbursements coming from the federal government.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:49 PM

The tacit doctors and their entourages are then complicit in all the travesties, the diseases, the dead, hungry, filthy and abused children.

Put it all on obama, who created this monstrosity.

Schadenfreude on July 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM

Hey, guys,

FWIW, my assessment of the downfall of the GOPe is not that the voters were incapable of grasping ideas, but that the GOPe didn’t have principles it was willing to do on a hill for.

When you have principles that matter to you, then you work and work and work at expressing them better and trying to be more persuasive. You don’t give up, and simply try to be a pale imitation of your opponent.

The GOPe is like a bunch of twelve-year-olds who go with the flow of peer pressure because they want to be in with the in crowd.

The GOPe is not the stupid party, it is the unprincipled party.

INC on July 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM

[grabs ALT...drags her over...]

She. Needs. A. Hobby Life.

[OK, ALT...do your thang...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:43 PM

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM

Now PEE OFF!

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Yeah! Urine off!

Judge_Dredd on July 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM

I’m going to cover up in all my covers and enjoy the fall like sleeping weather.

Sweet dreams all

gophergirl on July 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM

That is what you should have done in your head genius before you went on your rant about links. Lol

Some people are always looking for a fight. Never a day off.

coolrepublica on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

…like you said in your rant the other day…F@uck You!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM

How many kids do you have, Ken?

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM

Two. Boy and a girl. Two grandsons and two granddaughters.

KCB on July 1, 2014 at 11:52 PM

Not the women I run into at work…

PointnClick on July 1, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Your line of work is….well, outside the norm, PnC. And what state are you in? That can make a difference, too.

‘Course, what do I know? I’m in a purple state of SE coast where traditional values are still well within the norm. For now, anyway.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 11:52 PM

Tell us honestly, are you unstable?
hawkdriver on July 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM

[sets up voting machines...adjusts curtains...line forms to the right...no, cool--you're other right...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 1, 2014 at 11:52 PM

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