Question for Ted Cruz: Should conservatives withhold donations from the NRSC after Thad Cochran’s win?

posted at 4:41 pm on July 1, 2014 by Allahpundit

Roll Call’s trying to get an answer from him after the Senate Conservatives Fund called for a boycott this past weekend. He’s the vice chairman in charge of grassroots outreach for the NRSC, but he’s also a longstanding ally of the SCF’s whose relationship with the group has irritated his GOP colleagues in the Senate. Now he’s in the crossfire.

No comment so far.

[T]he Texas Republican supported the SCF’s efforts in the past. He made an appearance in a recent SCF television ad to boost former Oklahoma Speaker of the House T.W. Shannon. Rep. James Lankford defeated Shannon in a GOP primary for Sen. Tom Coburn’s seat, which is open because the Oklahoma Republican is resigning at the end of this Congress.

Multiple queries to Cruz’s office Sunday and Monday asking if he would disavow the SCF’s effort to defund the NRSC yielded no response from the senator.

“Majority-Leader-Wannabe Mitch McConnell, NRSC Chairman Jerry Moran, and the others who supported Thad Cochran’s disgraceful attacks on Chris McDaniel are part of the problem,” SCF President Ken Cuccinelli said in a message to supporters. “These politicians don’t believe in the principles of freedom that make America great. Their ideology is power and they will do anything to keep it.”

Here’s the SCF petition calling for choking off funds to the NRSC. I’ve gotta say: They have a case.

We must remember that the establishment urged Cochran to run against McDaniel even though Cochran wanted to retire.

We must remember that the establishment opposed McDaniel even though Cochran had been in Washington for 41 years and had voted for wasteful spending, more debt, and higher taxes…

We must remember that the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) continued to oppose McDaniel after he won the most Republican votes in the primary, and then spent $175,000 of party money to defeat McDaniel in the runoff.

All true, but I’m reluctant to go along. And honestly, I’m not sure whether the SCF strategy is too dangerous or not dangerous enough. One of my points on Friday in arguing that Mississippi tea partiers should consider voting Democratic was that choking off money just isn’t enough of a threat in an age when Republican billionaires can replace millions in lost funds with one check. If the NRSC finds itself $5 million short because of a grassroots boycott, what’s to stop middlemen from dialing up Sheldon Adelson et al. and asking them to make up the shortfall with donations to Super PACs involved in key races? So maybe the boycott wouldn’t work. Or maybe it would work and wholly innocent GOP candidates would suffer because of it. It’d be a bad outcome if righteous rage at Cochran and his cronies ended up with Tom Cotton losing to Mark Pryor because there just wasn’t enough money down the stretch in Arkansas. If you want to make a statement about Mississippi, there’s an obvious solution: Get Mississippi Republicans to either stay home or to vote for Travis Childers in the general election. I already gave you the pros and cons of that; either you elect another Joe-Manchin-style Democrat to the Senate who’ll think hard before moving too far left lest he be trounced by Mississippians in 2020 or you validate the Cochran cronies’ tactics by reelecting an old-school pork-peddling Republican dinosaur. I’m not saying it’s an easy choice, but it is a choice worth thinking hard about.

My feeling about the NRSC is that they should be on de facto probation until 2016. Specifically, I want to see how they handle Mike Lee’s reelection bid in Utah. Lee’s going to face headwinds there from establishmentarians who loathe him for his role in the shutdown last year; they’ll also be eager to symbolically undo his tea-party-propelled victory over Bob Bennett in 2010. If the NRSC really is all about protecting incumbents, it should be decisively on Lee’s side against the Romneys and Huntsmans and other business-class Republicans eager to knock him off. If they’re not, then obviously they’re picking favorites based on ideological bent, at which point conservatives might as well pull the plug and let the donor class fund the NRSC entirely. If the committee can’t even defend a serious legislator like Lee who’s taken the lead in reorienting Republican policies towards helping the middle class, they’re beyond hope. That’s third-party territory.


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JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 6:01 PM

As the resident establishment apologist I’m fine with boycotting the NRSC. I would be fine with boycotting Cochran if I thought we could get to 51 without him.

V7_Sport on July 1, 2014 at 6:04 PM

No voting Dem we just want Thad’s “win” thrown out and him cast into public oblivion.
sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 5:55 PM
What’s the alternative if that doesn’t happen though?
cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 6:01 PM
A good old fashion southern humiliation :) basically shame him from the public eye and make him step down. Which if you haven’t noticed has begun even before the lawsuits were filed.

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 6:05 PM

People should give their money to the candidates they support. It’s a win-win if the GOP big money guys replace the little guy donations that we send to our preferred candidate.

katiejane on July 1, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Why would conservatives like someone who sides with those who want to destroy conservatives? You are such a strange individual.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 5:58 PM

So if Cruz (wisely) stays away from this cesspool, he would be viewed as an ally of those who want to “destroy conservatives”? Surely, you have more faith in the man than that.

thebrokenrattle on July 1, 2014 at 6:07 PM

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 6:05 PM

This is not going to die down down here anytime soon.

kingsjester on July 1, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Steve Eggleston on July 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM

My understanding from reading the article… They only need to find the number of votes invalid equal to the number of votes lost by. Then there will be yet another election.

Of course, if the fraud charges pan out, Cochran is out period.

astonerii on July 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 6:05 PM
This is not going to die down down here anytime soon.
kingsjester on July 1, 2014 at 6:08 PM
Nope it seems True the vote has been getting emendated with calls and emails about this election and it sounds like they just had it. Now we have a lawsuit against the state GOP.

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM

So if Cruz (wisely) stays away from this cesspool, he would be viewed as an ally of those who want to “destroy conservatives”?

Moving goalposts.

sides with the NRSC

…is what you said.

Surely, you have more faith in the man than that.

thebrokenrattle on July 1, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Why would I have any faith in him?

Cruz will deliver, or he won’t. He will be conservative, or he won’t. Faith has nothing to do with it.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 6:13 PM

I think a 3rd party can be quickly built that is based on people of faith, the working and middle classes, and small business. Redefine groups rather than falling into the trap of using groups defined by Democrats. The Republican and Democrat Parties are both special interest parties that ignore the vast majority of Americans.

So I’m all for boycotting the NRSC. Anything that weakens the Republican party is a good thing.

huckleberryfriend on July 1, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Steve Eggleston on July 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM
My understanding from reading the article… They only need to find the number of votes invalid equal to the number of votes lost by. Then there will be yet another election.
Of course, if the fraud charges pan out, Cochran is out period.
astonerii on July 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM
MS law is very harsh and clear on election fraud. If found to be true Thad is done,thrown from his seat.

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 6:15 PM

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Cochran started the suspicion concerning his campaign, when they refused to debate McDaniel.

Then the GOP sent Juan McAmnesty down to help him campaign…

kingsjester on July 1, 2014 at 6:15 PM

As the resident establishment apologist I’m fine with boycotting the NRSC. I would be fine with boycotting Cochran if I thought we could get to 51 without him.

V7_Sport on July 1, 2014 at 6:04 PM


No personal offense intended
SCREW boycotting the NRSC!

My Republican Senator is Rob Portman – one of the “colleagues” who helped raise money for Cochran’s Primary runoff.

I noticed last week one of our eternally patient, true conservatives on here had joined the Let.It.Burn fraternity …

… which resulted in me having an epiphany.

The GOPe is perfectly happy with Let.It.Burn because it’s passive rather than active in nature. They expect it to cost the Democrats more net votes than the GOPe candidates and they just ran their “proof of concept” test case on how to defeat true conservatives.

So now it is time to change from the passive Let.It.Burn

… and to voting an all GOPe encompassing, everywhere on the map VOTE FOR ANYONE ELSE from “dog catcher to U.S. Senator” as long as the Republican Party lets stand the Mississippi outcome from Tuesday night. Or in shorter, specifically targeting terms:

Burn.It.Down
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… unless, of course, the GOPe wants to denounce the results from last Tuesday and have one mote vote, strictly audited by True The Vote to the LAWS of Mississippi?

PolAgnostic on July 1, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Will he be denounced as a RINO if he refuses to pick a side or even worse, sides with the NRSC?

thebrokenrattle on July 1, 2014 at 5:55 PM

This isn’t going to happen. Note how many chances Rand Paul got before conservatives finally started walking away from him in disgust. Even his support of Mitch McConnell’s re-election didn’t do it – it took for his comments about vote fraud to really cause the exodus to begin.

The idea that if a Republican says one wrong thing, he will instantly be cast out, is pure baloney whipped up by GOP supporters looking to cast conservatives as kooks and freaks.

Doomberg on July 1, 2014 at 6:18 PM

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM
Cochran started the suspicion concerning his campaign, when they refused to debate McDaniel.
Then the GOP sent Juan McAmnesty down to help him campaign…
kingsjester on July 1, 2014 at 6:15 PM
That was indeed one of the dumbest things I ever heard a politician do it was completely illogical and suspect. Now Thad just looks like a dirty old man.

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 6:18 PM

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 6:18 PM

There are rumors of feebleness and a plan to have Haley Barbour’s nephew, Henry, replace Thad, one or so years into this term, with Thad retiring due to “health issues”.

kingsjester on July 1, 2014 at 6:20 PM

PolAgnostic on July 1, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Why punish good candidates though? Ben Sasse? Dave Brat? Joni Ernst?

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Have lost faith in Cruz.Apparently he is a lot less principled than I thought.No Mr. Smith there.Will just vote for a third party candidate in 2016 or maybe write in a name.Won’t be voting this November.First time in over 40 years.Totally disillusioned and have pretty much given up hope America can be saved.Will join the millions of folks so turned off by the GOP and politics they didn’t show up for Romney in 2012.Will gladly join a conservative third party movement but don’t see that happening.

redware on July 1, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Steve Eggleston on July 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM

My understanding from reading the article… They only need to find the number of votes invalid equal to the number of votes lost by. Then there will be yet another election.

Of course, if the fraud charges pan out, Cochran is out period.

astonerii on July 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Some people seem to think finding invalid votes equal to half the margin would be enough. I’m not sure why they think so.

The only standard I’ve seen is “enough to call the vote into question.” That leaves room for interpretation.

But if vote-buying fraud is found, I think they would have no choice but to redo the election. Or else Cochran will — finally — withdraw from the race.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 1, 2014 at 6:31 PM

In addition to funding your conservative candidate(s) of
choice, please send some $$ to True The Vote. If it wasn’t
for this organization headed by Catherine Englebrecht (sp),
voter fraud might be ignored. This is the woman who is taking
on the IRS.

Amjean on July 1, 2014 at 6:33 PM

This isn’t going to happen. Note how many chances Rand Paul got before conservatives finally started walking away from him in disgust. Even his support of Mitch McConnell’s re-election didn’t do it – it took for his comments about vote fraud to really cause the exodus to begin.

The idea that if a Republican says one wrong thing, he will instantly be cast out, is pure baloney whipped up by GOP supporters looking to cast conservatives as kooks and freaks.

Doomberg on July 1, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Shortly after you said this, a poster said he has lost faith in Cruz. It’s not about “one wrong thing”; it’s the perception of any type of pragmatism as the “wrong thing”. Cruz would wise to stay out of this mess; it wouldn’t be wrong, it would be smart.

thebrokenrattle on July 1, 2014 at 6:35 PM

All this must certainly put a vast hurt on the Mississippi Haley Barbour machine.

All those Barbour’s might have to get real jobs.

RJL on July 1, 2014 at 6:37 PM

thebrokenrattle on July 1, 2014 at 6:35 PM

That’s why the right always loses in the end.

The left plays the long game. The right wants instant results.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Doesn’t matter what Cruz thinks, I stopped donating when I saw how Gov. Palin was dissed by the GOPe.

RWRFAN on July 1, 2014 at 6:43 PM

The right wants instant results.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Waiting 30 years before demanding results seems fairly patient to me.

How many more decades were you hoping for?

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Where is Shawn O’Hara when you need him?

/sort of serious

PoliTech on July 1, 2014 at 5:34 PM

It’s not possible to be even “sort of serious” when asking for Shawn O’Hara.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 1, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Somewhere Mike Castle is saying ‘suck it’…

fossten on July 1, 2014 at 6:53 PM

I already gave you the pros and cons of that; either you elect another Joe-Manchin-style Democrat to the Senate who’ll think hard before moving too far left lest he be trounced by Mississippians in 2020 or you validate the Cochran cronies’ tactics by reelecting an old-school pork-peddling Republican dinosaur.

We dumped Lugar in the primary here in Indiana and got Joe Donnelly when Mourdock flamed out. We’ve already gotten two votes from Donnelly I’m sure we wouldn’t have gotten from Lugar because Donnelly needs to listen to Hoosiers. Lugar had been ignoring public opinion for years whenever he got a chance to cross over, hold hands with Democrats and bask in the media’s gratitude and spotlight portrayals of the traitor as a great statesman. He repeatedly screwed us on the important votes, because those garnered the most attention, and because he could. He got away with two terms of doing that more and more often until Hoosiers had finally had enough.

I got into it with Kurt Schlichter over his insistence that the only rational thing to do now was to rally behind Cochran to protect the Supreme Court from an Obama nomination. I just don’t buy it. The most likely vacancy on the court will be a seat held by a liberal, so an appointment of another liberal wouldn’t change the balance. Furthermore, Kagan and Sotomayor both were confirmed with Republican votes, so a simple Senate majority is no guaranty.

More importantly, it’s simply unconscionable to reward the utterly corrupt Cochran and the Haley Barbour Mob. Race-baiting, smearing the conservative wing as racists, using Democrat votes to win a Republican primary, vote fraud and apparently vote buying expose them as unprincipled men willing to engage in pure treachery and outright criminality to maintain their grip on power and the flow of taxpayer dollars to themselves and their supporters. What would it say about us if we supported these scum, knowing what they are, knowing they would continue their corrupt parasitism in Mississippi to the detriment of the country, simply to maintain a partisan majority? Isn’t that exactly what we despise most about Democrats, their total disregard of the country’s best interests in favor of partisan advantage?

If I were a Mississippi voter, I could not in good conscience vote for Cochran. Childers, just like Donnelly, would be required to take public opinion into account in his votes to have a prayer of holding th seat for more than one term. Mississippi and the entire nation would be better served with Childers in that seat, Cochran finally retired and the Barbour Mob kicked the Hell off the gravy train.

novaculus on July 1, 2014 at 6:54 PM

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 6:47 PM

The right gave up midway through Reagan’s second term. only came back for a short time in 94′.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 6:55 PM

The right wants instant results.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 6:38 PM

The Democrats go after instant results, and then they use the spoils of their victories (gerrymandering, committee chairs etc.) to win more elections.

I will no longer accept the GOP’s flimsy excuse for not fighting tooth and nail to be “we are trying to win the long game.” I’ve been around long enough to see that they really aren’t. They are simply squishy cowards.

fossten on July 1, 2014 at 6:56 PM

Why punish good candidates though? Ben Sasse? Dave Brat? Joni Ernst?

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 6:21 PM

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Since when is Dave Brat GOPe?

If they are Tea Party and/or True Conservatives they’re safe.

If they are just running for dog catcher but GOPe approved, nuke’em!

WE didn’t start this war – but I guarantee we can WIN IT if we clean the GOPe out of our side of the swamp.

PolAgnostic on July 1, 2014 at 6:56 PM

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 6:55 PM

So is this like a Hundred Year Plan to put the leftists in their place and reduce government spending? Can we hope for results as early as mid century…say 2050?

Or is that simply asking too much?

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 6:58 PM

I agree Allah..The NRSC should be on de facto probation until 2016..:)

Dire Straits on July 1, 2014 at 7:02 PM

I stopped funding the NRSC quite a while back. They never send any money to Illinois to help unseat Dirtbag Durbin. And, I don’t give to any group that claims to be “national”. I only give locally.

Fallon on July 1, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Or is that simply asking too much?

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 6:58 PM

No, but petulant whining and running away surely won’t win.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 7:08 PM

If they are Tea Party and/or True Conservatives they’re safe.

If they are just running for dog catcher but GOPe approved, nuke’em!

WE didn’t start this war – but I guarantee we can WIN IT if we clean the GOPe out of our side of the swamp.

PolAgnostic on July 1, 2014 at 6:56 PM

OK, I see what you are saying now. Thought you meant vote against every R. Your idea makes a lot of sense.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 7:10 PM

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Put simply, the GOP wants nothing to do with conservatism.

They have made that very clear.

Waiting for them, or the Democrats to have an epiphany about that is futile.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 7:15 PM

And that is one dirty swamp.
John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Thad Cochran, Karl Rove!!!

mmcnamer1 on July 1, 2014 at 7:19 PM

No, but petulant whining and running away surely won’t win.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Okay, you answered sharrukin’s question, and I’m ignoring the personal attack in the interest of keeping the conversation productive.

So, you do agree that it’s possible the so-called “long game” is too long?

fossten on July 1, 2014 at 7:25 PM

fossten on July 1, 2014 at 7:25 PM

It’s always too long.

My concern at this point is a rear guard action to keep things from going too far before a younger generation can take over.

And it wasn’t an attack. Its what people have been ranting about here for a long time.

Taking your toys and going home is not an effective tactic.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 7:32 PM

My concern at this point is a rear guard action to keep things from going too far before a younger generation can take over.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 7:32 PM

So its a multi-generational plan?

It’s also NOT about rolling back government, but just holding the line, or losing less badly than otherwise? Until another generation can start losing less badly?

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 7:37 PM

If I were a Mississippi voter, I could not in good conscience vote for Cochran. Childers, just like Donnelly, would be required to take public opinion into account in his votes to have a prayer of holding th seat for more than one term. Mississippi and the entire nation would be better served with Childers in that seat, Cochran finally retired and the Barbour Mob kicked the Hell off the gravy train.
novaculus on July 1, 2014 at 6:54 PM

All what you said, especially the last paragraph. A rookie dem in a reddish state is more liable to be blue-doggish and vote our way if they want another term. Compared to a long in the tooth yellow-dog rino that feels no compunction about reaching across the aisle to move tbe progressive agenda forward. Break the incumbency!!!

AH_C on July 1, 2014 at 7:38 PM

I have not given one dime to the NRSC, ever.

They have sucked for as long as I can remember.

ajacksonian on July 1, 2014 at 7:40 PM

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Well no. Its about helping the best candidate and not trashing every congress critter that doesn’t tow the far right line on every issue.

If you whiners had even a hope of a chance you would have founded a viable third party three decades ago. You don’t have the numbers, or the issues. So you whine incessantly, pee in the pool and do all you can to hurt even decent candidates.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Its about helping the best candidate and not trashing every congress critter that doesn’t tow the far right line on every issue.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 7:41 PM

So it’s NOT about rolling back government at all. Just supporting Red Team against Blue Team.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 7:46 PM

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Sigh, yes dear.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 7:48 PM

We are all over this race and being used as a bone of contention in the war.

“It’s time to throw the drunks out of the bar”

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 7:53 PM

A political party should be run for the benefit of its MEMBERS.

Not for the benefit of the POLITICIANS.

Send your money accordingly.

Not one dime to any party organ as they are not interested in the MEMBERS but in the POLITICIANS.

ajacksonian on July 1, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Who in the hell has $$ to give to a politician or any political party?

Seriously. The majority of us work hard to pay our bills and have a little left over for a mini-vacation

The reason millionaires and billionaires coupled with Wall Street determine the outcome of political elections

Redford on July 1, 2014 at 7:55 PM

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 7:41 PM

+ 100..:)

Dire Straits on July 1, 2014 at 7:55 PM

We are all over this race and being used as a bone of contention in the war.

“It’s time to throw the drunks out of the bar”

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Scum like you should go to the progressive party. Cochran won with Democratic votes and he and you should go where your voters are… and your beliefs…if you have any that aren’t for sale.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 7:53 PM

If anyone needs to leave, its Cochran.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Scum like you should go to the progressive party. Cochran won with Democratic votes and he and you should go where your voters are… and your beliefs…if you have any that aren’t for sale.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Is that really the best rabid unhinged vitriol you can toss my direction.

You kind of remind me a little of Lizzie Weinstein after the SCOTUS handed Obama his head on the Hobby Lobby case.

I just dont think it is going to work out any better for you, than it did them.

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Were you actually expecting respect, rather than contempt?

No one respects a whore.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Why would anyone send money to a political party or its organs when they do not support the MEMBERS of the party but those in charge of it?

That is abusing the party membership and then expecting to not only be thanked for it, but be paid for it.

Democrats seem to love this sort of thing and have been at it for decades.

Why conservatives should be expected to do the same is beyond me.

ajacksonian on July 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Wow, AP, you sure have gone in a different direction in a week. Then, post-Mississippi, you were suggesting it was time to vote for Harry Reid, née Childers.

Now, you aren’t even in favor of starving the beast and defunding the NRSC.

This one is a no-brainer. I disagreed with you last week after the primary debacle and I really disagree here too: no money for the Senate Republicans. None. Nada. Zero.

MTF on July 1, 2014 at 8:19 PM

I just dont think it is going to work out any better for you, than it did them.

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM

“Stop whining about how abusive you think I am. You can’t breakup with me, we need each other!” -dumb jerk that just doesn’t get it

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Uh, YES!
And why have you been still sending money to those morons?

Another Drew on July 1, 2014 at 8:23 PM

This more of a question for the base of the party, than for Ted Cruz.

SouthernGent on July 1, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Remember, to win against the party MEMBERS in Mississippi, the GOP party organs had to fund a corrupt politician AND bring in Democrats to vote. And they STILL had a hard time ‘winning’.

That is a strange form of seppuku when a political party does this.

Cantor outspent his primary opponent 25:1 and still LOST.

Let the party Elites and corrupt cronies exist on their crony money. Send your money to good candidates who are willing to stand up to the cronies and corruption.

You won’t win every time, but do it enough times and things will start to change. The question is: is there enough time left to do this and save the republic?

ajacksonian on July 1, 2014 at 8:26 PM

You won’t win every time, but do it enough times and things will start to change. The question is: is there enough time left to do this and save the republic?

ajacksonian on July 1, 2014 at 8:26 PM

I say, “yes.” =)

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 8:27 PM

You won’t win every time, but do it enough times and things will start to change. The question is: is there enough time left to do this and save the republic?

ajacksonian on July 1, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Agreed..It must be won from within..Not with a 3rd party or voting for the Democrats..:)

Dire Straits on July 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Well Allah, you’ve once again highlighted a common problem for politicians. Do they stand on principle or do they allow themselves to be co-opted by Washington. Cruz will fare much better if he stays out of the Washington cesspool. If he ingratiates himself, he will end up like Rubio and Paul in the eyes of the base.

KickandSwimMom on July 1, 2014 at 8:36 PM

I used to donate to the RNC, NRSC and NRCC. I have not donated to any of the three for the past five years.

bw222 on July 1, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Were you actually expecting respect, rather than contempt?

No one respects a whore.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 8:10 PM

That statement says a lot more about you, than it does me….lol

Unfortunately for you, all that assuming about what I might expect, just makes you look as much of a fool as McDaniel is now acting.

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Should conservatives withhold donations from the NRSC after Thad Cochran’s win?

Do any conservatives donate to NRSC? Why would they?

Maybe Cruz does not answer the question because it is pointless.

s1im on July 1, 2014 at 8:43 PM

A political party should be run for the benefit of its MEMBERS.

Not for the benefit of the POLITICIANS.

Send your money accordingly.

Not one dime to any party organ as they are not interested in the MEMBERS but in the POLITICIANS.

ajacksonian on July 1, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Today’s GOP is pretty much run for the benefit of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Association of Manufacturers and the Donor Class.

bw222 on July 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Its not for Cruz to answer.

I can answer for myself

The dirty dogs get nothing from me, including votes

entagor on July 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

That statement says a lot more about you, than it does me….lol

Unfortunately for you, all that assuming about what I might expect, just makes you look as much of a fool as McDaniel is now acting.

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

People like you are stupid, smug, and unethical. The only reason anyone should ever want to be allied with you would be for a similar reason to why the US worked with Stalin in WWII.

Yeah, that’s right, people like you are closer to Stalin in my view than you are someone like Reagan lol

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Glad to see more opinions that this isn’t Cruz’s fight.

thebrokenrattle on July 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

No one respects a whore
sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 8:10 PM

In the larger context of the former grand old party, I keep thinking the same as you

I am now seeing things that put XXX movies to shame

Except with this crowd, there is no shame

When Marie Antoinette said ‘Let them eat cake’ it became the defining moment. Her group had already jumped the shark. She was too isolated and ignorant to understand her words were the tinder needed for the explosion.

This current dog pack is also too fat, pampered and full of themselves and their oligarchy to understand what they are doing. And they are magnifying the error with a disinformation campaign, using sock puppets and internet proxies to try and create an illusion that resistance is futile. However they are incapable of speaking in the local dialect.

Tired of puppets, but apparently they puppetmasters are determined to end the conversation

I pulled up websitedetective.net recently. Interesting to enter hotair.com and see what numbers you pull up

entagor on July 1, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Glad to see more opinions that this isn’t Cruz’s fight.

thebrokenrattle on July 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I think his silence makes him weak rather than strong. He is a politician with ambition, after all, so his silence doesn’t surprise me. He’s just not as different as many have believed.

The chastisement he received from the GOPe after the shutdown seems to have taken effect.

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Except with this crowd, there is no shame

They think the only think that matters is getting time at the public trough. The idea that this doesn’t inspire anyone to support them is mystifying to them.

This current dog pack is also too fat, pampered and full of themselves and their oligarchy to understand what they are doing. And they are magnifying the error with a disinformation campaign, using sock puppets and internet proxies to try and create an illusion that resistance is futile. However they are incapable of speaking in the local dialect.

entagor on July 1, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Its hard for me to grasp how someone can be that out of touch, but its put in front of everyone every day as these guys shoot themselves in the foot. I have noticed a lot more of the puppets coming out with the party line, both Democrat and Republican.

I don’t think that things are going to end well. They won’t change and I also think its probably too late for a third party.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Why does he have give a thumbs up or down? He can say, with the statesmanship befitting a United States Senator, that those who would donate should follow one’s own conscience as a citizen and that he personally supports the principles of the Republican cause and yet finds the actions of some individuals within the party to be contrary to that cause, and, frankly deplorable.

Or is ‘Gotcha’ politics more important than the cause?

M240H on July 1, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Exactly!

onlineanalyst on July 1, 2014 at 9:18 PM

People like you are stupid, smug, and unethical. The only reason anyone should ever want to be allied with you would be for a similar reason to why the US worked with Stalin in WWII.

Yeah, that’s right, people like you are closer to Stalin in my view than you are someone like Reagan lol

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 8:47 PM

You do realize that Reagan, the one that you and McDaniel’s love to ride like Seattle Slew, reached across the aisle. Hell he had a beer about once a month with Tip O’Neil and they were good friends. Reagan worked with and was good friends, with a lot of Democrats.

You don’t know me from Adam’s house cat but the fact that you would compare someone you do not know to Stalin, Stalin! That is just silly…

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 9:18 PM

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 9:12 PM

My only problem with that is there is no way for Cruz to win..It seems to me it is damn if he does..Damn if he doesn’t..Might be better in this case to pick your battles wisely and not “choose” this hill..:):)

Dire Straits on July 1, 2014 at 9:20 PM

Withhold the money, let the rich establishment supporters fork over more dough. Next, withhold your vote, without voting Democrat, let Cochran win without tea party votes, if he can. If the establishment really wants to have a war with a group of people who are loathe to vote Democrat and will come out and vote, let them. I know that, after Mississippi, I’m re-evaluating my relationship with the Republican Party. I’ve been voting Republican, except for Perot, since Nixon II and if the tea party forms their own party, I’ll be gone from the Republican Party.

You are correct about the Mike Lee election. Considering his Senior Senator participated in the Mississippi lynching I’d be watching my back, if I were him. It’s quite obvious you can’t trust any of the establishment types, in either the House or the Senate, and they’re not much better picking candidates than the tea party is.

bflat879 on July 1, 2014 at 9:26 PM

Cruz made a pledge to not try to undermine any Republican incumbents in the Senate race, which would include Cochran.

I think he wishes now he hadn’t made that promise…..

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 1, 2014 at 9:26 PM

I wonder what would happen in these races where there is only a GOPe and a Facist running if instead of voting one of these idiots in, we do something poignant. Let’s say that no matter where we are in the country, we write in “Chris McDaniel”, whether we are in MS, KY, or SC, or any other Rovican stronghold. I think that would be a strong way of saying “Remember Mississippi” on the ballot. We would have nothing to lose, as either way we will get Amnesty and Welfare for Illegal Aliens

Brock Robamney on July 1, 2014 at 9:26 PM

People can make up their own minds on whether or not to donate, Cruz doesn’t need to give his opinion.

My opinion is that the Establishment must be punished – whether that means witholding money, witholding votes, or just plain voting for the other guy when the alternative is a squishy backstabber.

Ukiah on July 1, 2014 at 9:29 PM

You do realize that Reagan, the one that you and McDaniel’s love to ride like Seattle Slew, reached across the aisle. Hell he had a beer about once a month with Tip O’Neil and they were good friends. Reagan worked with and was good friends, with a lot of Democrats.

No, I didn’t know that Reagan knew how to work with people with disagreed with him.

Did you know that the US allied with Stalin in WWII?

You don’t know me from Adam’s house cat but the fact that you would compare someone you do not know to Stalin, Stalin! That is just silly…

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 9:18 PM

I love the pathetic “you don’t know me!” routine. Do you think your comments aren’t a reflection of who you are and where you’re coming from? You just gave me another reason to rightfully say that you’re stupid-are you not smart enough to realize this? lmao

You’re obnoxiously siding with Cochran and the GOPe, who are intolerant morons. I’ve known many smug people like you-you are unethical, and the more you deny your flaws, the worse it makes you look. =)

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 9:29 PM

Cruz made a pledge to not try to undermine any Republican incumbents in the Senate race, which would include Cochran.
I think he wishes now he hadn’t made that promise…..
There Goes the Neighborhood on July 1, 2014 at 9:26 PM

I doubt if anybody would have thought that they would see the day when a crusty old man who fondles sheep would use the race card against a republican challenger. But when you have an incumbent who couldn’t debate the issues as he is senile and even forgets his own name, you have to cheat to win. Even if it means paying walk around money

Brock Robamney on July 1, 2014 at 9:31 PM

My feeling about the NRSC is that they should be on de facto probation until 2016.

Probation? They’re on death row as far as I’m concerned. Paying blacks to vote for Cochran was my final straw.

Mr. Arrogant on July 1, 2014 at 9:34 PM

My only problem with that is there is no way for Cruz to win..It seems to me it is damn if he does..Damn if he doesn’t..Might be better in this case to pick your battles wisely and not “choose” this hill..:):)

Dire Straits on July 1, 2014 at 9:20 PM

I disagree. I think he could, and should, say something close to the following.

Why does he have give a thumbs up or down? He can say, with the statesmanship befitting a United States Senator, that those who would donate should follow one’s own conscience as a citizen and that he personally supports the principles of the Republican cause and yet finds the actions of some individuals within the party to be contrary to that cause, and, frankly deplorable.

M240H on July 1, 2014 at 5:00 PM

DS, I don’t think Cruz will even say that at this point. The fallout of the shutdown has changed him.

Remember something called the “Reagan Revolution”? There will be no “Cruz Revolution,” unfortunately.

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 9:34 PM

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 9:34 PM

So go for the surrender option. It seems like the GOP already has that market covered. Which I am sure will keep the cheerleaders sated

Brock Robamney on July 1, 2014 at 9:40 PM

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 9:34 PM

I agree..I will be suprised if Cruz says anything..It will be too “polarizing” within the GOP..:)

Dire Straits on July 1, 2014 at 9:41 PM

AP: “My feeling about the NRSC is that they should be on de facto probation until 2016.”

My own feeling is that no matter what they do, you’ll manage to come up with yet another excuse about how they should be on “de facto probation” until 2018. Then 2020.

Toocon on July 1, 2014 at 9:45 PM

I agree..I will be suprised if Cruz says anything..It will be too “polarizing” within the GOP..:)

Dire Straits on July 1, 2014 at 9:41 PM

I agree, and I wish I didn’t have to. I think he feels paralyzed.

So go for the surrender option. It seems like the GOP already has that market covered. Which I am sure will keep the cheerleaders sated

Brock Robamney on July 1, 2014 at 9:40 PM

If I were Cruz, I would say something close to what was in M240H’s post, but I would add my personal position was as well, because I like having people know right where I stand. And that position is, until the conflict between the GOPe and the grassroots is resolved, I myself cannot endorse sending funds to the NRSC.

non-nonpartisan on July 1, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Doesn’t matter what Cruz thinks, I stopped donating when I saw how Gov. Palin was dissed by the GOPe.

RWRFAN on July 1, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Me too. EXACTLY. And I’ve let the NRSC know it every damn time they’ve called me since.

Harbingeing on July 1, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Oh, and BTW – I want a million man march on Washington with this theme: “ARREST OBAMA NOW!!!” It’s time for a helluva lot of arrests in Washington besides his, too.

Harbingeing on July 1, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Yes.

J.B. Say on July 1, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Without a thought.

Nat George on July 1, 2014 at 10:09 PM

If Turtle McConnell promises to use it against me… of course.

viking01 on July 1, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Sean Hannity is going to talk about the vote scandal on his show.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 10:26 PM

In the larger context of the former grand old party, I keep thinking the same as you

I am now seeing things that put XXX movies to shame

Except with this crowd, there is no shame

When Marie Antoinette said ‘Let them eat cake’ it became the defining moment. Her group had already jumped the shark. She was too isolated and ignorant to understand her words were the tinder needed for the explosion.

This current dog pack is also too fat, pampered and full of themselves and their oligarchy to understand what they are doing. And they are magnifying the error with a disinformation campaign, using sock puppets and internet proxies to try and create an illusion that resistance is futile. However they are incapable of speaking in the local dialect.

Tired of puppets, but apparently they puppetmasters are determined to end the conversation

I pulled up websitedetective.net recently. Interesting to enter hotair.com and see what numbers you pull up

entagor on July 1, 2014 at 9:02 PM

First off Marie Antoinette never said “let them eat cake”. It cannot be contributed to her by anyone.

While there were a lot of factors in the French Revolution that could be a great analogy to our current situation that quote is bad amateur hour.

The very same amateur hour that caused your boy not to be able to close the deal in the first round.

McDaniel got out foxed and out spent.

If I were you, I think I might keep that sanctimonious lecture about being “incapable of speaking in the local dialect” to myself, all things considering.

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 10:31 PM

First off Marie Antoinette never said “let them eat cake”. It cannot be contributed to her by anyone.

While there were a lot of factors in the French Revolution that could be a great analogy to our current situation that quote is bad amateur hour.

The very same amateur hour that caused your boy not to be able to close the deal in the first round.

McDaniel got out foxed and out spent.

If I were you, I think I might keep that sanctimonious lecture about being “incapable of speaking in the local dialect” to myself, all things considering.

Tilly on July 1, 2014 at 10:31 PM

There’s something very appropriate about you defending Marie Antoinette.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 1, 2014 at 10:44 PM

I stopped donating to the republican party after the television news reports about how they were spending my money on lavish dinners, expensive whores, parties, and jewelry. I only donate to candidates now.

earlgrey on July 1, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Let me guess, the SCF wants the dough. These clowns are so transparent.

cimbri on July 1, 2014 at 10:53 PM

To quote Schadenfreude, the GOP will betray you. Both parties are out of touch and don’t deserve a vote. Ted Cruz and Mike Lee are the only two Republicans honoring their campaign promises, and they are attacked by the Uncle Tom GOP Race Baiters

Brock Robamney on July 1, 2014 at 10:59 PM

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 1, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Now that’s what I call a Vichy Republican. C’est tout!

Brock Robamney on July 1, 2014 at 11:00 PM

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