Question for Ted Cruz: Should conservatives withhold donations from the NRSC after Thad Cochran’s win?

posted at 4:41 pm on July 1, 2014 by Allahpundit

Roll Call’s trying to get an answer from him after the Senate Conservatives Fund called for a boycott this past weekend. He’s the vice chairman in charge of grassroots outreach for the NRSC, but he’s also a longstanding ally of the SCF’s whose relationship with the group has irritated his GOP colleagues in the Senate. Now he’s in the crossfire.

No comment so far.

[T]he Texas Republican supported the SCF’s efforts in the past. He made an appearance in a recent SCF television ad to boost former Oklahoma Speaker of the House T.W. Shannon. Rep. James Lankford defeated Shannon in a GOP primary for Sen. Tom Coburn’s seat, which is open because the Oklahoma Republican is resigning at the end of this Congress.

Multiple queries to Cruz’s office Sunday and Monday asking if he would disavow the SCF’s effort to defund the NRSC yielded no response from the senator.

“Majority-Leader-Wannabe Mitch McConnell, NRSC Chairman Jerry Moran, and the others who supported Thad Cochran’s disgraceful attacks on Chris McDaniel are part of the problem,” SCF President Ken Cuccinelli said in a message to supporters. “These politicians don’t believe in the principles of freedom that make America great. Their ideology is power and they will do anything to keep it.”

Here’s the SCF petition calling for choking off funds to the NRSC. I’ve gotta say: They have a case.

We must remember that the establishment urged Cochran to run against McDaniel even though Cochran wanted to retire.

We must remember that the establishment opposed McDaniel even though Cochran had been in Washington for 41 years and had voted for wasteful spending, more debt, and higher taxes…

We must remember that the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) continued to oppose McDaniel after he won the most Republican votes in the primary, and then spent $175,000 of party money to defeat McDaniel in the runoff.

All true, but I’m reluctant to go along. And honestly, I’m not sure whether the SCF strategy is too dangerous or not dangerous enough. One of my points on Friday in arguing that Mississippi tea partiers should consider voting Democratic was that choking off money just isn’t enough of a threat in an age when Republican billionaires can replace millions in lost funds with one check. If the NRSC finds itself $5 million short because of a grassroots boycott, what’s to stop middlemen from dialing up Sheldon Adelson et al. and asking them to make up the shortfall with donations to Super PACs involved in key races? So maybe the boycott wouldn’t work. Or maybe it would work and wholly innocent GOP candidates would suffer because of it. It’d be a bad outcome if righteous rage at Cochran and his cronies ended up with Tom Cotton losing to Mark Pryor because there just wasn’t enough money down the stretch in Arkansas. If you want to make a statement about Mississippi, there’s an obvious solution: Get Mississippi Republicans to either stay home or to vote for Travis Childers in the general election. I already gave you the pros and cons of that; either you elect another Joe-Manchin-style Democrat to the Senate who’ll think hard before moving too far left lest he be trounced by Mississippians in 2020 or you validate the Cochran cronies’ tactics by reelecting an old-school pork-peddling Republican dinosaur. I’m not saying it’s an easy choice, but it is a choice worth thinking hard about.

My feeling about the NRSC is that they should be on de facto probation until 2016. Specifically, I want to see how they handle Mike Lee’s reelection bid in Utah. Lee’s going to face headwinds there from establishmentarians who loathe him for his role in the shutdown last year; they’ll also be eager to symbolically undo his tea-party-propelled victory over Bob Bennett in 2010. If the NRSC really is all about protecting incumbents, it should be decisively on Lee’s side against the Romneys and Huntsmans and other business-class Republicans eager to knock him off. If they’re not, then obviously they’re picking favorites based on ideological bent, at which point conservatives might as well pull the plug and let the donor class fund the NRSC entirely. If the committee can’t even defend a serious legislator like Lee who’s taken the lead in reorienting Republican policies towards helping the middle class, they’re beyond hope. That’s third-party territory.


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Mississippi is still on fire:

Alexandra Jaffe @ajjaffe · 1h

McDaniel spox @NoelFritsch tells me campaign has found over 3300 ineligible votes, after reviewing < half the counties in Miss. #MSSen

Jaffe works for The Hill.

INC on July 1, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Yes, absolutely.

No need for giving money to establishment RINOs.

Ned Pepper on July 1, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Alexandra Jaffe @ajjaffe · 1h
McDaniel spox @NoelFritsch tells me campaign has found over 3300 ineligible votes, after reviewing < half the counties in Miss. #MSSen

Wow. Hope this gets more coverage.

bluegill on July 1, 2014 at 4:45 PM

All true, but I’m reluctant to go along.

Not surprising, you are after all a GOPe RINO…

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Joana et. al. to explain why we should support Cochran in 3….2….1..

melle1228 on July 1, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Roll Call’s trying to get an answer from him after the Senate Conservatives Fund called for a boycott this past weekend. He’s the vice chairman in charge of grassroots outreach for the NRSC, but he’s also a longstanding ally of the SCF’s whose relationship with the group has irritated his GOP colleagues in the Senate. Now he’s in the crossfire.

No comment so far.

Allahpundit on July 1, 2014 at 4:41 PM

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Ted, you know I love you … but you can only be “neutral” for so long.

listens2glenn on July 1, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Wow. Hope this gets more coverage.

bluegill on July 1, 2014 at 4:45 PM

What, you don’t have faith that HotAir will cover this?

reddevil on July 1, 2014 at 4:49 PM

If McDaniel finds the votes, I think the GOP elites are gonna cut their losses and let Cochran go. This has been a disaster for them. An absolute disaster. I have gotten two or three GOP fund-raising calls a day since that election. I just laugh at them.

Rational Thought on July 1, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Counter-question – have conservatives (vice crony capitalists) been donating to the N”R”SC this cycle? I seem to recall a saying about multiple foolings.

Steve Eggleston on July 1, 2014 at 4:50 PM

No comment so far.

Cruz needs to choose a side.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 4:50 PM

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

For additional information from a Mississippian…me.

kingsjester on July 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

I’ll go along with the probation idea, but I WON’T give them any money, either. Individual candidates only from now on.

Ms. Contrarian Scientist on July 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Defund the GOP!!!

Cochran’s victory was illegal and against the constitution.

Ned Pepper on July 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Question for Ted Cruz: Should conservatives withhold donations from the NRSC after Thad Cochran’s win?

I sure will not donate. Not while the lot of them are playing the RINO game and congratulating cheating, thieving slobs like Cochran.

Diluculo on July 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM

The GOP doesn’t need money or conservatives to win. They just need democrats to cross over.

Go chase their money you filthy slime.

portlandon on July 1, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Ned Pepper on July 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Were you one of those paid Democrat Voters down here?

kingsjester on July 1, 2014 at 4:54 PM

We already have been–for years now. What makes Allah think that the Cochran campaign was the final straw?

will77jeff on July 1, 2014 at 4:55 PM

From last night:

BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Buying Scandal

https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/483796579938484224

I’ve heard the full audio. If the preacher isn’t lying, somebody is going to jail. http://fb.me/2VmBGdewt

INC on July 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

For additional information from a Mississippian…me.

kingsjester on July 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Great article… Good on ya…

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Mississippi is still on fire:

Alexandra Jaffe @ajjaffe · 1h

McDaniel spox @NoelFritsch tells me campaign has found over 3300 ineligible votes, after reviewing < half the counties in Miss. #MSSen

Jaffe works for The Hill.

INC on July 1, 2014 at 4:44 PM

The bad news – the votes get tossed “randomly” because individual votes can’t be tied to ineligible voters. Statistically, assuming the tossings are actually “random”, the McDaniel campaign would need to find well north of 30,000 ineligible voters in order to have a chance of reversing the results assuming a 60%-40% Cochran advantage in the affected wards.

The ugly news – I doubt that the vote-tossing will be either “random” or favorable to McDaniel (side note – the latter would be just as dirty pool as what Team Cochran did at the polls).

Steve Eggleston on July 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Thankyaverymuch!

kingsjester on July 1, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Hot Air has pretty much abandoned the ‘Cochran voter fraud’ story, but, it just keeps growing …

PASTOR OFFERS EVIDENCE OF THAD COCHRAN CAMPAIGN VOTE-FOR-PAY SCHEME

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/30/Democrat-Pastor-Accuses-Thad-Cochran-Campaign-Of-Vote-For-Pay-Scheme

TRUE THE VOTE SUES MS SECRETARY OF STATE, GOP OVER COCHRAN’S ALLEGED VOTER FRAUD

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/01/True-The-Vote-Sues-MS-Secretary-Of-State-GOP-Over-Cochran-s-Alleged-Voter-Fraud

Pork-Chop on July 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Why does he have give a thumbs up or down? He can say, with the statesmanship befitting a United States Senator, that those who would donate should follow one’s own conscience as a citizen and that he personally supports the principles of the Republican cause and yet finds the actions of some individuals within the party to be contrary to that cause, and, frankly deplorable.

Or is ‘Gotcha’ politics more important than the cause?

M240H on July 1, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Do you think someone like Rand Paul could take Cochrane aside and point to the corruption in his win. Ted? All he has to do is say that he is…embarrassed, humiliated…it shore is ugly.

Fleuries on July 1, 2014 at 5:00 PM

If you want to make a statement about Mississippi, there’s an obvious solution: Get Mississippi Republicans to either stay home or to vote for Travis Childers in the general election.

Levin pitched an idea like this before the debacle in Mississippi. He suggested picking one Senate race(he seemed to zero in on McConnell) and having as many base voters as possible sit it out. I think that’s the best way to send a message to the GOP establishment. Pick one or several Senate races(i.e. McConnell, Cochran, Grahamnesty) and convince enough people to stay home or crossover so that it costs the party gimme seats. That way come 2016, they know not to screw around with the base with regard to the Presidential election. Nominate a squish like CRISTie or Jeb and be prepared to lose the White House for the 3rd straight time.

Doughboy on July 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM

kingsjester on July 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Thanks for your post! Your quote from the Hattiesburg American answers the question about contributing:

“The same guys who have ridiculed and mocked not just the tea party but true conservatives are calling for unity,” said Roy Nicholson, founding chairman of the Mississippi Tea Party. “The same people who so villainously stabbed us in the back now call on us to elect the same person who they stabbed us over? … In two to six years, (the tea party) will be at the head of some party or another … We want smaller government, less taxes and more freedom. Since our Republican leadership refuses to listen to that, they have brought on the destruction of the Mississippi GOP.”

INC on July 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Hot Air has pretty much abandoned the ‘Cochran voter fraud’ story, but, it just keeps growing …

Pork-Chop on July 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM

You didn’t think they were going to back the Conservative did you?

reddevil on July 1, 2014 at 5:04 PM

The purpose here seems to be to do to Sen. Cruz as they did to Chris McDaniel, defeat him at all costs. The GOP establishment has made it clear, they don’t like Ted Cruz. Well, the rank and file in the Republican Party have made it clear they don’t like the GOP establishment. In answer to the question, hell yes, withhold donations to the NRSC, they have shown utter contempt for the base and now they expect our money? Yeah, right.

Dan_NV on July 1, 2014 at 5:05 PM

SCF just wants the money for themselves. It’s pretty basic.

I stopped giving to the NRSC and NRC over 25 years ago, so my boycott won’t be felt very much.

If you choose to give to those groups in any year, you must realize they protect incumbents first and foremost, and sometimes make bad early decisions in open races (cough Crist cough), so you are at the mercy of the Chairman & top staffers there.

I prefer to give directly to those candidates I support, or to groups who advocate my preferred policies. Note that despite the high profile of people like Jennie Beth Martin in commenting on the mess in Mississippi, “Tea Party” groups are a bad investment with only 5% on average going to candidates or issue ads. Most of it keeps Jennie Beth traveling first class and her friends and family on the payroll.

Club for Growth gives about the best return on the donated dollar of any groups associated with the “Tea Party” (although they are about 30 years old now).

Adjoran on July 1, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Or is ‘Gotcha’ politics more important than the cause?

M240H on July 1, 2014 at 5:00 PM

What cause?

If Cruz is pursuing the same cause as Cochran that is significant.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 5:05 PM

I quit giving money to the NRSC, the NRCC and the NRC after the NRC’s autopsy following the Romney debacle. They decided that for Republicans to be electable, they needed to be more like Democrats. That for me was a WTF moment.

Following that analysis, I decided that these idiots should take a flying poke at a rolling donut. I’ll give what money I can to specific candidates that support my values.

WestTexasBirdDog on July 1, 2014 at 5:06 PM

I don’t know what Ted Cruz recommends but I’m not giving any Republican organization money. I’ll contribute to individual candidates of my choice only.

Oldnuke on July 1, 2014 at 5:07 PM

BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Buying Scandal

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

You are wasting your time. These jokers already know, they are hoping beyond hope that it will turn out to be false so they won’t have to report on it.

That is the reason they have made the RINO Blog Watch Wall Of Shame

conservativeBC on July 1, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Thank you for continuing to write about Mississippi Allah.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:08 PM

If the NRSC finds itself $5 million short because of a grassroots boycott, what’s to stop middlemen from dialing up Sheldon Adelson et al. and asking them to make up the shortfall with donations to Super PACs involved in key races?

The largest contributor to the NRSC this cycle is Elliott Management at $321,000.

In 2012 the largest was Goldman Sachs at $812,500

In 2012 they raised a total of $117,000,000
In 2014 they have so far raised a total of $65,000,000

I think a grassroots holding back of donations can actually make an impact on the NRSC as they don’t really deal with as much cash as one would think.

airupthere on July 1, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Thad bought votes and McDaniel is pursuing legal action.

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 5:10 PM

…I’m reluctant to go along.

I’m not. It’s also past time for probation. They blew that with their actions in Mississippi. The SAS envelopes that come from the GOP will now be returned with a short, not mean, note as to why they will get no more money from our family.

As for Cruz, he is not a stupid man. I would like to think he has something up his sleeve that he is not ready to go public with.

cozmo on July 1, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Pork-Chop on July 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM

They aren’t the only ones. Quite a few conservative sites have NO stories about it at all.

Nothing on Drudge yet either, although I know some people have sent him links hoping he will follow up.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM

If the NRSC really is all about protecting incumbents, it should be decisively on Lee’s side against the Romneys and Huntsmans and other business-class Republicans eager to knock him off.

My guess is the NRSC is likely to claim to back Lee with the absolute minimum possible support to give themselves plausible cover, while quietly undermining him in any way they can behind the scenes.

Hot Air has pretty much abandoned the ‘Cochran voter fraud’ story, but, it just keeps growing …

PASTOR OFFERS EVIDENCE OF THAD COCHRAN CAMPAIGN VOTE-FOR-PAY SCHEME

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/30/Democrat-Pastor-Accuses-Thad-Cochran-Campaign-Of-Vote-For-Pay-Scheme

TRUE THE VOTE SUES MS SECRETARY OF STATE, GOP OVER COCHRAN’S ALLEGED VOTER FRAUD

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/01/True-The-Vote-Sues-MS-Secretary-Of-State-GOP-Over-Cochran-s-Alleged-Voter-Fraud

Pork-Chop on July 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM

I guess my question is what happens next. Can McDaniel prove this in a court of law? Will he be able to act in time for the results to matter? Will this mean the Primary results get thrown out? Will the GOP be able to quash any legal challenges? If all this does is result in some mud-throwing in the pages of the Daily Caller I’m not sure it helps except to enrage already furious grassroots activists.

More amazing to me, though, is the fact that the GOP may have actually committed vote fraud against its own base. Where the heck are these guys when Democrats are cleaning up in purple states?

Doomberg on July 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM

If Cochran committed election fraud-which appears likely, and the NRSC does not denounce him and demand his resignation or removal from office, then yes, Cruz should recommend Conservatives withould donations from an active criminal enterprise.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM

True the Vote has filed suit against the MS Secretary of State.

tetriskid on July 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Don’t give the Repub party any more money, just give to specific candidates.

rjoco1 on July 1, 2014 at 5:13 PM

True the Vote has filed suit against the MS Secretary of State.

tetriskid on July 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Awesome.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 5:13 PM

I give to individual candidates only. period. dot.

Don’t’ trust the ‘groups’

LilyBart on July 1, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Cruz needs to choose a side.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Yes, it’s very disappointing that he has said nothing so far.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:14 PM

BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Buying Scandal

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

I’d be cautious about trusting Fielder too much. He’s pretty sleazy.

But Saleem Baird seems pretty sleazy, too. The story is at least plausible.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 1, 2014 at 5:14 PM

They aren’t the only ones. Quite a few conservative sites have NO stories about it at all.

Nothing on Drudge yet either, although I know some people have sent him links hoping he will follow up.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM

The Blaze has a story, but nothing here or any mainstream outlet that I have seen.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 5:14 PM

If the GOP order thought the tea party and conservative candidates would take election fraud against conservative candidates lying down just because it was committed by the GOP, they thought wrong.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM

I prefer that MS politics stay in MS. But Thad’s blatant bone headed vote buying must be used as a lesson to the establishment.

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 5:17 PM

They aren’t the only ones. Quite a few conservative sites have NO stories about it at all.

Nothing on Drudge yet either, although I know some people have sent him links hoping he will follow up.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Doesn’t really matter.

Most of these sites are just lazy and repost whatever is on Hannity or Rush. They will both be covering it tonight and tomorrow.

tetriskid on July 1, 2014 at 5:17 PM

They aren’t the only ones. Quite a few conservative sites have NO stories about it at all.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM

A lot of sites are afraid of sounding “too crazy.” This will get reported if the story keeps gaining legs.

Doomberg on July 1, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Maybe Cruz should first step from its vice-chairmanship before he supports defunding the NRSC.

Red Widow on July 1, 2014 at 5:19 PM

I guess my question is what happens next. Can McDaniel prove this in a court of law? Will he be able to act in time for the results to matter? Will this mean the Primary results get thrown out? Will the GOP be able to quash any legal challenges? If all this does is result in some mud-throwing in the pages of the Daily Caller I’m not sure it helps except to enrage already furious grassroots activists.

More amazing to me, though, is the fact that the GOP may have actually committed vote fraud against its own base. Where the heck are these guys when Democrats are cleaning up in purple states?

Doomberg on July 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM

I believe someone cited the relevant statutes on last nights QOTD. My recollection-If a politician in office has committed election fraud of this nature, they are required to step down immediately and may not run for office in the election in question. The governor would appoint an interim replacement.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Doughboy on July 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM

McConnell is the one to go for.

INC on July 1, 2014 at 5:20 PM

I donated to the RNC a few months ago. When they called back last week (for more $$), I told them that I was disgusted by what they did in Mississippi and to take me off the list. Now I’m wondering if that was the right group to punish?

LASue on July 1, 2014 at 5:20 PM

TRUE THE VOTE FILES SUIT AGAINST MISSISSIPPI, STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY

INC on July 1, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Great to hear.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:20 PM

I think that Cochran voter-pay story is not accurate. That Fielder guy is not trustworthy. Church says he’s not a reverend (thank God). Apparently the Cochran campaign did pay him in a GOTV capacity, but did not pay voters. Smarmy, yeah. But not illegal, maybe.

http://www.clarionledger.com

Grace_is_sufficient on July 1, 2014 at 5:23 PM

I prefer that MS politics stay in MS. But Thad’s blatant bone headed vote buying must be used as a lesson to the establishment.

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 5:17 PM

You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you. Cochran gets all the help he wants from the federal level. Endorsements and speeches by his fellow Senators, money of course and the NRSC even sent staff down there to help his campaign. Conservatives must stop fighting with one hand tied behind their backs.

Red Widow on July 1, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Cruz needs to choose a side.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 4:50 PM

The time may not be this moment, but somewhere soon we’re all going to have to choose a side. If the Republican Party doesn’t begin to see the Tea Party movement as it’s own “Last Best Hope”, then all of us are going to have to seriously consider an independent third party. A party unabashedly and blatantly committed to a republic, and irrevocably opposed to the sickening slide toward the Orwellian bureaucratic despotism that’s just over the horizon.
Washington, D.C. has evolved into the new Rome. The imperial city of dazzling white marble monuments, morbidly corrupted by it’s worship of power and soaked in self-admiring delusions of ever growing grandeur. Unless the Republican Party emerges in full and unequivocal force to oppose it, the party will soon prove itself redundant and irrelevant.
The time for all of us to choose is likewise, just over the horizon.

Lew on July 1, 2014 at 5:24 PM

The Blaze has a story, but nothing here or any mainstream outlet that I have seen.

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Red State was the first major conservative site to report it last night at about 9 PM. The site even temporarily crashed.

In addition to the Blaze, I think Breitbart is the only other site to be reporting it so far.

Now that True the Vote has filed suit, it’s going to be harder and harder for other sites to ignore it.

And here is some good news:

Childers, Cochran in dead heat among GOP voters in Chism poll

http://www.sunherald.com/2014/07/01/5678244/childers-cochran-in-dead-heat.html

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:24 PM

NRSC chairman Jerry Moran first had to do battle with a TEA party primary opponent before becoming the GOPe’s junior Senator from Kansas. He HATES the TEA party.

Kansas really screwed the pooch by electing Moran.

flyovermark on July 1, 2014 at 5:24 PM

So good old Thad “won” then again I can’t say this enough bone headedly,openly baught votes and committed fraud.

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Let the Chamber of Crony Capitalism and Serf Labor finance the Republican establishment as they are their servants not the people’s.

VorDaj on July 1, 2014 at 5:25 PM

What little money I give always goes directly to candidates, never to the Party.

Laurence on July 1, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Childers, Cochran in dead heat among GOP voters in Chism poll

http://www.sunherald.com/2014/07/01/5678244/childers-cochran-in-dead-heat.html

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:24 PM

If this is the case, it seems likely the GOP will lose the seat. Perhaps they’ll finally learn a lesson (but I doubt it). They’ve mostly giggled and sneered at threats of rebellion in the base, so it will be pretty interesting to see how they handle this.

Doomberg on July 1, 2014 at 5:28 PM

all of us are going to have to seriously consider an independent third party.

Lew on July 1, 2014 at 5:24 PM

I think that is inevitable.

The GOP/Democrats will unite in fact, if not officially. What they won’t do is give up any of their perks or power.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Doomberg on July 1, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Sure hope Childers takes the seat now. The article says the good news for Cochran is that 42% are undecided. That makes no sense at all. Undecideds almost always break for the challenger, or they don’t vote at all.

If they liked the incumbent, they would not be undecided.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:30 PM

What little money I give always goes directly to candidates, never to the Party.

Laurence on July 1, 2014 at 5:27 PM

This ^^^

I haven’t given money to a “party” organization since 2008. I have continued to loyally vote for GOP, but stopped giving money. Now, I just won’t be giving money or voting unless I like the candidate.

melle1228 on July 1, 2014 at 5:30 PM

The Jackson, MS Clarion-Ledger is a Liberal Newspaper. Take everything they post with a grain of salt, as you would any Liberal news outlet.

kingsjester on July 1, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Alexandra Jaffe @ajjaffe · 1h

McDaniel spox @NoelFritsch tells me campaign has found over 3300 ineligible votes, after reviewing < half the counties in Miss. #MSSen

Would they discard the votes by county, taking from both candidates in proportion to their votes? If most of the ineligible votes were in counties Cochran won, could this put McDaniel ahead?

talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Levin pitched an idea like this before the debacle in Mississippi. He suggested picking one Senate race(he seemed to zero in on McConnell) and having as many base voters as possible sit it out. I think that’s the best way to send a message to the GOP establishment. Pick one or several Senate races(i.e. McConnell, Cochran, Grahamnesty) and convince enough people to stay home or crossover so that it costs the party gimme seats. That way come 2016, they know not to screw around with the base with regard to the Presidential election. Nominate a squish like CRISTie or Jeb and be prepared to lose the White House for the 3rd straight time.

Doughboy on July 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM

I’d rather do this kind of message-sending with the House.

slickwillie2001 on July 1, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Where is Shawn O’Hara when you need him?

/sort of serious

PoliTech on July 1, 2014 at 5:34 PM

I weep for this country and it’s future.
I hate liberals, progressives, and progressive establishment republicans.
The tea party is small-ish yet, and has lost a bit of steam. Not dead, but not effective largely because SOME of them have been bought.
It’s not good.

As I was reading this thread I got a call from the GOPe looking for cash. I wont let you guess what I told them, but it amounted to me not being willing to send money to a bunch of traitorous progressives going to bed with liberal fascist progressives, selling out the country so they can have another 10 minutes worth of power which they would use to further destroy this country. Here’s one example I said…what have you idjits done about the southern border mess and all these illegal invaders?

The caller said, “you mean the immigrants?”

I said thanks a bunch, that’s all I need to know, you people will never see another dollar or vote from me. Take me off your lists and don’t call again or I’ll sue your asses for harassment.

I hung up. I’ll be true to my word. I will not vote progressive ever, GOPe ever.

If there was a vote right now to nuke washington, I’d vote HELL YES, as long as the progressives and GOPe are all present and accounted for before the strike.

I hate them all. HATE them.

Diluculo on July 1, 2014 at 5:36 PM

I wonder if Roll Call has any questions for Thad Cochran on voter fraud in MS….? Nah. That would be too uncomfortable……

d1carter on July 1, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Alexandra Jaffe @ajjaffe · 1h
McDaniel spox @NoelFritsch tells me campaign has found over 3300 ineligible votes, after reviewing < half the counties in Miss. #MSSen
Would they discard the votes by county, taking from both candidates in proportion to their votes? If most of the ineligible votes were in counties Cochran won, could this put McDaniel ahead?
talkingpoints on July 1, 2014 at 5:33 PM
3,300 already I take what I said about Cochran being bone headed back…he is downright delusional…

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 5:37 PM

I’d rather do this kind of message-sending with the House.

slickwillie2001 on July 1, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Senate loses would get a lot more attention, particularly if McConnell is one of them who goes down.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:38 PM

I hate them all. HATE them.

Diluculo on July 1, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Tell us how you really feel.

crankyoldlady on July 1, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Question for Ted Cruz: Should conservatives withhold donations from the NRSC after Thad Cochran’s win?
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Yes,..oh wait,..otays, after November!!!!!

canopfor on July 1, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Senate loses would get a lot more attention, particularly if McConnell is one of them who goes down.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:38 PM

I think turtleman shakes with obama under the table, while obamas hands sit firmly on the table top. He needs to lose.

Diluculo on July 1, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Tell us how you really feel.

crankyoldlady on July 1, 2014 at 5:40 PM

COL, if I did, it would probably be my last post ;-)

Diluculo on July 1, 2014 at 5:41 PM

John Cornyn and Rick Perry use each other’s snake track to get re-elected.

Both of them lust to trip up Ted Cruz.

Same with the msm and the commie democrats.

Lots of back shooters.
We must have Teds back as he fights them for U. S..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 1, 2014 at 5:41 PM

We must have Teds back as he fights them for U. S..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 1, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Only, and ONLY if Ted has our backs. I’m doubting it since he congratulated Cochran so kissingly after Cochrans antics stealing that primary.

Diluculo on July 1, 2014 at 5:43 PM

The GOP/Democrats will unite in fact, if not officially. What they won’t do is give up any of their perks or power.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 5:29 PM

I think you’re dead right. I’ve been an activist and an office holder in this party for over 15 years and I’ve personally seen so many of these so-called “leaders” who don’t want to change anything, they just want to be in charge. They enjoy the attention and the perks and the instant recognition when they walk into a room, but as far as having a coherent thought about anything more serious than the last baseball game…forget it!
I think of them as drivers for a bus company; they don’t care where the bus is going, they just want to drive!

Lew on July 1, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Only, and ONLY if Ted has our backs. I’m doubting it since he congratulated Cochran so kissingly after Cochrans antics stealing that primary.

Diluculo on July 1, 2014 at 5:43 PM

That might have been his first mistake, jumping on that before it was decided. He’s following the Reagan maxim.

crankyoldlady on July 1, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Vote Dem in MS, stay home in KY.. No phone banking, door knocking, envelope licking etc. in any other district. They continue to insult the grass roots, so we need to pick up our toys and stay home.

kringeesmom on July 1, 2014 at 5:48 PM

I’m not voting Dem…

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Pork-Chop on July 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Aaron Gardner, who wrote the article about Cochran over at RS, has also written for Media Trackers and is involved in True The Vote. I’m guessing he’s played multiple roles in bringing this info to the public’s attention.

Then again, I’m very much so an Aaron Gardner fan, so it may just be bias on my part. ;-)

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Vote Dem in MS, stay home in KY.. No phone banking, door knocking, envelope licking etc. in any other district. They continue to insult the grass roots, so we need to pick up our toys and stay home.

kringeesmom on July 1, 2014 at 5:48 PM

I agree with your first sentence. Not so sure about the third. Why punish innocent and good candidates, depending of course on where you are located.

For example, we really need Dave Brat in Congress. Same with Tom Cotton in the Senate.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:52 PM

A diplomatic silence.

BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Buying Scandal

oscarwilde on July 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Follow the money. Maybe we’ll find out how many illegal votes there were in ’12.

formwiz on July 1, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Just tried all 8 Cruz office numbers I have all of them not taking calls all here in Texas and it’s before closing time.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 1, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Cruz needs to choose a side.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Yes, it’s very disappointing that he has said nothing so far.

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Will he be denounced as a RINO if he refuses to pick a side or even worse, sides with the NRSC?

thebrokenrattle on July 1, 2014 at 5:55 PM

I’m in MS and why can’t people get this through their heads Mississippians want blood now! No voting Dem we just want Thad’s “win” thrown out and him cast into public oblivion.

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 5:55 PM

or you validate the Cochran cronies’ tactics by reelecting an old-school pork-peddling Republican dinosaur.

Who’s demented, can’t debate anyone and can’t pee, without McCain holding his pen*s.

p.s. thanks for pointing out the travesty which are the Romneys/Huntsmans and Bennetts.

Schadenfreude on July 1, 2014 at 5:55 PM

I think the GOPe has sold out to big business cronyism, and will get the majority of their funding from those sources anyway. Funding they will use to beat down Conservatives. Who they then expect to vote for them in the general.

{Shrugs}

We’re better off donating directly to the candidates than to the party. At least have a chance of winning that way.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Will he be denounced as a RINO if he refuses to pick a side or even worse, sides with the NRSC?

thebrokenrattle on July 1, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Why would conservatives like someone who sides with those who want to destroy conservatives? You are such a strange individual.

sharrukin on July 1, 2014 at 5:58 PM

We’re better off donating directly to the candidates than to the party. At least have a chance of winning that way.

lineholder on July 1, 2014 at 5:56 PM

I dumped the GOP/NRSC/whatever years ago and donate to candidates. Best way to put my money to use – avoids the overhead waste and the continual junk mail for more money.

batter on July 1, 2014 at 5:59 PM

No voting Dem we just want Thad’s “win” thrown out and him cast into public oblivion.

sorrowen on July 1, 2014 at 5:55 PM

What’s the alternative if that doesn’t happen though?

cat_owner on July 1, 2014 at 6:01 PM

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