CNN: Review of 20,000 studies shows vaccines are safe and necessary

posted at 10:41 am on July 1, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Notorious anti-vaccine activist Jenny McCarthy just got cut from The View, so it’s too bad this din’t come up sooner. CNN even calls McCarthy out by name in reporting on a new review from the medical journal Pediatrics of more than 20,000 studies on vaccines for children. The review shows that vaccines have no connection to autism, are very safe, and have very few side effects, and almost all of those temporary:

Children should get vaccinated against preventable and potentially deadly diseases. Period.

That’s what a review of more than 20,000 scientific studies on childhood vaccines concludes this week. The review appears in the latest edition of the medical journal Pediatrics.

The evidence strongly suggests that side effects from vaccines are incredibly rare, the study authors said. They found no ties between vaccines and the rising number of children with autism, as a small but vocal group of anti-vaccine activists, including actors Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carey [sic], have said.

Elizabath Cohen explains why those who opt out put more people at risk:

An increasing number of parents over the years have opted out of getting their children vaccinated. And that may be having a negative impact on the community’s health.

A study found that large clusters of children who had not been vaccinated were close to the large clusters of whooping cough cases in the 2010 California epidemic. While California typically has higher vaccination rates than the rest of the country, that state is dealing with yet another whooping cough epidemic.

This spring also saw an 18-year high number of measles cases in the United States. The largest outbreak was in Ohio where the virus spread quickly among the Amish, who are mostly unvaccinated. This outbreak was a real surprise to health officials who thought that the infectious disease was thought to have been eliminated from the United States in 2000.

The state of Washington also had a major outbreak of measles this spring. The state does not require vaccinations for children entering schools, although unvaccinated children can be barred from classes during outbreaks. KIRO-TV reported on this last week, and interviewed a father who has refused to vaccinate his children:

Kids don’t like shots, it’s true; I was frightened of needles as child, too. Measles, mumps, and the whooping cough are a heck of a lot worse than a needle.


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Did CNN factor in the effects of global warming and black holes?

Flange on July 1, 2014 at 10:45 AM

If only someone would develop a liberal vaccine.

darwin on July 1, 2014 at 10:46 AM

We must provide birth control….vaccinations optional. /s

airupthere on July 1, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Especially now that all of the diseases that were once virtually stamped out completely in this country, are now being re-introduced right across our southern border.

How many people will get sick and die because of Obama and his DHS’s intentional encouragement of the invasion now streaming across he Mexican border? How many AMERICANS will get sick and die because Obama and the left’s War on America?

Meople on July 1, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Im sorry, but I find a co-host on The View more believable… /s

MikeInBA on July 1, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Global warming….the science is settled
Childhood vaccines causing autism….we don’t believe your science

The libs few of science

jaywemm on July 1, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Oops damn ipad….libs view of science

jaywemm on July 1, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Obama’s created a refugee crisis that makes getting vaccines all the more critical. The so-called undocumented migrants are disease-ridden carriers that will re-introduce illnesses long considered a third-world problem, along with the usual stuff like TB and HIV/AIDS.

Happy Nomad on July 1, 2014 at 10:52 AM

I think I’ll base my vaccination decisions on the Opinion of washed up former MTV cohost Jenny McCarthy, not some “Scientists”.

portlandon on July 1, 2014 at 10:54 AM

About time. Although, my friends with children do tell me that it’s better to space the vaccinations out a little bit. Apparently one doctor gave this one woman’s baby like a half dozen vaccines at once and the kid was sore and sick for days.

Outlander on July 1, 2014 at 10:56 AM

BOO!! hissss!
/jk as long as we aren’t mandating anything.

abobo on July 1, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Should we listen to the doctors or Jenny McCarthy?
Most of the morons would listen to her or a Kardashian. Heard there was an uptick in many childhood ailments due to lack of vaccinations.
Not from 3rd worlders coming here but from the elite liberals refusing to inoculate their children. So we all suffer.

faol on July 1, 2014 at 10:59 AM

About time. Although, my friends with children do tell me that it’s better to space the vaccinations out a little bit. Apparently one doctor gave this one woman’s baby like a half dozen vaccines at once and the kid was sore and sick for days.

Oh now you’ve done it. Don’t you know you are either pro-vaccine or anti-vaccine!!!! Geez, how are people supposed to quickly call you ignorant and anti-science if we can’t segregate everyone into 2 distinct groups?

chuckfinlay on July 1, 2014 at 11:01 AM

But open borders to millions of illegals who have active TB and many other such is a good thing per CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS teal.
INSANE

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 1, 2014 at 11:01 AM

‘Science is settle’ they squealed

Nevsky on July 1, 2014 at 11:07 AM

However, now they are trying to foist them on seniors. No thanks. I’ve already spotted, itched, and whooped. If you don’t want me around your rug rat without proof of vaccination, so be it.

katy the mean old lady on July 1, 2014 at 11:10 AM

I guess this is one way to get the results you want.

The systematic review excluded reports to the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, which contains complaints filed by individuals or health care professionals if they suspect a vaccine may have caused a problem with a patient’s health.

“We didn’t use that data because there is no comparison group out there and there is no way to really assess the validity and reliability,” said co-author Margaret Maglione, a policy analyst at RAND Corporation. source

huckleberryfriend on July 1, 2014 at 11:10 AM

I brought one of my kids to the clinic the other day for middle school shots, in the other room was a girl the same age getting hers. They needed FOUR nurses to hold her down to administer the shots, you could hear the screaming and pleading from the girl on Mars, I’ll bet.

Now THAT is some needle phobia.

Bishop on July 1, 2014 at 11:10 AM

I brought one of my kids to the clinic the other day for middle school shots, in the other room was a girl the same age getting hers. They needed FOUR nurses to hold her down to administer the shots, you could hear the screaming and pleading from the girl on Mars, I’ll bet.

Now THAT is some needle phobia.

Bishop on July 1, 2014 at 11:10 AM

How did your child react? I never minded shots too much growing up, but I’d have to believe the stress of all the drama in the room next door might have been unnerving!

Outlander on July 1, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Apparently, Jenny McCarthy failed to get inoculated from stupidity.

Bitter Clinger on July 1, 2014 at 11:15 AM

“We didn’t use that data because there is no comparison group out there and there is no way to really assess the validity and reliability,

huckleberryfriend on July 1, 2014 at 11:10 AM

Take them to Court:

as a result of “all the vaccinations administered to [Ryan] from March 25, 2003, through February 22, 2005, and more specifically, measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccinations administered to him on December 19, 2003 and May 10, 2004,” Ryan suffered “a severe and debilitating injury to his brain, described as Autism Spectrum Disorder (‘ASD’).”

Based on the record as a whole, the undersigned finds that the Proffer is reasonable and appropriate and that petitioners are entitled to an award as stated in the Proffer. Pursuant to the terms stated in the Proffer, the court awards to petitioners an award as described below:

A lump sum payment of $969,474.91, in the form of a check payable to petitioners as guardian(s)/conservator(s) of Ryan B. Mojabi, for the benefit of Ryan B. Mojabi, representing compensation for lost future earnings

Nevsky on July 1, 2014 at 11:20 AM

The luxury of ignorance. These people who advertise how great it is not to get your child vaccinated have undoubtedly never seen nor heard the ravages of polio, measles, mumps or whooping cough.

My grandmother limped her whole life thanks to Polio. My kids are vaccinated.

Grace_is_sufficient on July 1, 2014 at 11:22 AM

The luxury of ignorance. These people who advertise how great it is not to get your child vaccinated have undoubtedly never seen nor heard the ravages of polio, measles, mumps or whooping cough.

The luxury of projections due to mental laziness? I grew up in Asia, seen what happens in both extremes.

If you are going to “argue” like a libturd via projection and slippery slope, do not expect people to take you seriously

Nevsky on July 1, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Nevsky on July 1, 2014 at 11:20 AM
I’m no the autistic-spectrum.
Actually-there are several HA commentors who are on the ‘spectrum’. We we’re gifted-yes it’s a gift-w/ autism because we were vaccinated.
Vaccines don’t cause autism.Ever.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM

What if some religious nuts claim a religious exemption? You know, freedom of religion? Should they have the right to endanger their children, and your children?

HugoDrax on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM

on.
were.
Need coffee.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Let’s let truckloads of illegals into the country and spread them all over the country.

/

BuckeyeSam on July 1, 2014 at 11:36 AM

About time. We are seeing a resurgence in measles cases. Utterly unncessary and completely do to the nonsense spread by Mccarthy. Autism is a developmental disorder that hasn’t got a damn thing to do with vaccines.

Doc Holliday on July 1, 2014 at 11:37 AM

due, not “do”
I, like ALT, need caffeine…:)

Doc Holliday on July 1, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Something like 70% of people who came down with the diseases were vaccinated.

bossmanham on July 1, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Ed –
A little OT, but have considered this issue as it relates to yesterday’s SCOTUS HL ruling?

verbaluce on July 1, 2014 at 11:47 AM

What if some religious nuts claim a religious exemption? You know, freedom of religion? Should they have the right to endanger their children, and your children?

HugoDrax on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Ed –
A little OT, but have considered this issue as it relates to yesterday’s SCOTUS HL ruling?

verbaluce on July 1, 2014 at 11:47 AM

I knew this silly comparison would immediately pop up.

The Hobby Lobby case was a narrow situation where a private businesses could not be forced by the government to pay for women’s birth control, if they had a religious objection.

By way of comparison, refusal of individuals to use vaccinations is a major health hazard, both to the child individually and to the community at large as well.

Doomberg on July 1, 2014 at 11:53 AM

No vaccine is 100% effective in all people. They make the infections less intense, and in a population they slow its transmission down until it finally dies out due to a lack of vulnerable hosts.

when people stop vaccinating, it reappears due to the availability of suitable hosts.

Doc Holliday on July 1, 2014 at 11:53 AM

A little OT, but have considered this issue as it relates to yesterday’s SCOTUS HL ruling?

verbaluce on July 1, 2014 at 11:47 AM

By Jove, you’re right man! HL unleashes a veritable Pandora’s box of horrors upon an unsuspecting citizenry.

Immolate on July 1, 2014 at 11:54 AM

These people who advertise how great it is not to get your child vaccinated have undoubtedly never seen nor heard the ravages of polio, measles, mumps or whooping cough.

Grace_is_sufficient on July 1, 2014 at 11:22 AM

I had both measles and mumps (simultaneously). Stop with the strawmen.

A study found that large clusters of children who had not been vaccinated were close to the large clusters of whooping cough cases

If that’s the sort of thing they’re using to prove their case, then I have to say they rank right up there with the Global Warming “scientists”. (Yes, this could also be a typical case of very bad reportage of a study.)

GWB on July 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM

A little OT, but have considered this issue as it relates to yesterday’s SCOTUS HL ruling?

verbaluce on July 1, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Pregnancy as a disease?

butch on July 1, 2014 at 11:58 AM

My father is 89 and he had 2 brothers die of measles pneumonia three months before he and his twin brother were born. My grandmother was not allowed to be with them when they died because they were afraid it would hurt the unborn babies. That nearly killed her more than having twin babies, on a farm, out in the country. She never forgot that and always told me to make sure my babies had their shots.

megthered on July 1, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Verb – it doesn’t relate at all – NADA – Zip – zero.

Zomcon JEM on July 1, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Children should get vaccinated against preventable and potentially deadly diseases. Period.

…so rush the vaccines…down to the border already!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Ed
A little OT, but have considered this issue as it relates to yesterday’s SCOTUS HL ruling?

verbaluce on July 1, 2014 at 11:47 AM

…hey verbadouche!…you are always addressing ‘Ed’!…why don’t you call him or email him?

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM

I don’t have a problem with vaccination, but it usually takes decades to determine safety. We hear all the time about one medication or another that was once deemed safe for decades, but was subsequently found to be unsafe. That this excluded data from the Fed Records re:adverse effects is also a bit troubling.

whatcat on July 1, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Children should get vaccinated against preventable and potentially deadly diseases. Period.

I believe the vast majority are able to handle the standard vaccines (MMR – Polio) and although the exceptions may be rare, they occur and are devastating.

WhirledPeas on July 1, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Kids don’t like shots, it’s true; I was frightened of needles as child, too.

Me, to my 2 year old: “Yes, I know, son. We have to go get your shots so you won’t get sick. It might sting a little and hurt, but I will be right there with you. Can you be brave?”

“Yes, mommy!”

I actually nursed him during some of his shots before we weaned. He didn’t even flinch, just kept on nursing.

Kowtowing to your child because they are afraid of something is dumb. You are the adult. You make the decisions and help them through it.

cptacek on July 1, 2014 at 12:44 PM

What if some religious nuts claim a religious exemption? You know, freedom of religion? Should they have the right to endanger their children, and your children?

HugoDrax on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM

I think anyone should be able to opt out. But they should not then be able to enroll in public school, and day care providers, doctors and private schools should be able to set policy to block them as well.

cptacek on July 1, 2014 at 12:45 PM

What if some religious nuts claim a religious exemption? You know, freedom of religion? Should they have the right to endanger their children, and your children?

HugoDrax on July 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM

They do…it happens all the time.

right2bright on July 1, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Kids are afraid of needles. So train he Border Patrol to give vaccinations to illegal immigrants. Kids see needle run back to Mexico. Problem solved.

meci on July 1, 2014 at 1:25 PM

…hey verbadouche!…you are always addressing ‘Ed’!…why don’t you call him or email him?
JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM

I would rather see commenters here offer feedback and questions for bloggers, rather than petty insults directed at other readers.

bluegill on July 1, 2014 at 1:27 PM

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM

And everyone knows “JugEarsButtHurt” is the notorious, obscene banned commenter KoolAid2.

bluegill on July 1, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I’m with Katy. I had 2 kinds of measles, chicken ox, mumps and my tonsils out all in first grade. The polio vaccine came along during the worst outbreak in years. It used to happen every summer. People were afraid to go swimming. We got that vaccine right away. Yay, Dr. Salk.

I believe the vaccines are safe however it might be a good idea not to do it all at once. If I had kids now I would space them out. I also think we shouldn’t put all our trust in what the government says or any of the medical organizations. Do your own homework.

crankyoldlady on July 1, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Chicken pox. Either my fingers or my keyboard does this to me.

crankyoldlady on July 1, 2014 at 1:40 PM

I’m surprised Jenny McCarthy lasted as long as she did on that show.

bluegill on July 1, 2014 at 1:55 PM

I am surprised that nobody jumped on the fact that there were 20,000 scientific studies on childhood vaccines. I suspect that most or all of them were paid for by the federal government. True, I am glad that these studies are being done but, really, 20,000? Sounds like white collar welfare for the liberal university science departments.

jadedad on July 1, 2014 at 1:57 PM

ALL medications/vaccines/procedures-have some problems for somebody-if all of them had to be ‘perfect’ for everybody there would be none.

gerrym51 on July 1, 2014 at 1:57 PM

At the risk of being branded a tinfoil-hatter, have all of you actually done the research? Do you know how much autism incidence has skyrocketed in the last 40 years? Do you know what thimerosol is? Are you at all worried that the government was putting potentially toxic levels of mercury into vaccines? Do you really believe in “scientific consensus”?

I’m not a biologist and what reading I’ve done suggests that ethylmercury probably isn’t a cause of autism. But I don’t think either side in this argument has the right to say the other side is conclusively wrong. There has been at least one payoff in a vaccine-related injury and thimerosol has been removed from vaccines.

To me, the science is far from settled. Yes, the risks of not vaccinating your child are significant, but to issue a blanket condemnation of those who believe differently and to force your views on them “for the good of the children” is frighteningly akin to any number of progressive opinions.

I suggest you educate yourself, and discuss coherently with your peers. Emphasize the social costs, politely point out the consequences, and treat one another with dignity.

Then if you’re still worried about infectious diseases, get on the phone and melt the lines about how the mass invasion of infected third-world thugs (sorry, but a 16-year-old gang-banger isn’t a “child”) is full-blown biological warfare on America.

P.S. AJ is vaccinated, and not autistic.

AJsDaddie on July 1, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Ditto what AJ says.

The feds can pay for and run 20,000 studies, but there are several valid questions about the effects of the vaccinations. I advocate that people educate themselves rather than accepting the word of Big Brother. It does not make you a loon to to be intellectually curious.

BTW, if you’ve seen the vaccination schedule for a newborn today, it’s a far cry from the polio, measles, and whooping cough I received some 40+ years ago.

kpguru on July 1, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Ed –
A little OT, but have considered this issue as it relates to yesterday’s SCOTUS HL ruling?

verbaluce on July 1, 2014 at 11:47 AM

…hey verbadouche!…you are always addressing ‘Ed’!…why don’t you call him or email him?

JugEarsButtHurt on July 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM

He wrote the post.
Yes, I often do address the blogger directly.
But you’re mistaken if you think I’m only speaking to him/her.
I’m under no delusion that they’ll be responding.
Sorry if you object.

verbaluce on July 1, 2014 at 2:32 PM

Ed –
A little OT, but have considered this issue as it relates to yesterday’s SCOTUS HL ruling?

verbaluce on July 1, 2014 at 11:47 AM

I knew this silly comparison would immediately pop up.

The Hobby Lobby case was a narrow situation where a private businesses could not be forced by the government to pay for women’s birth control, if they had a religious objection.

By way of comparison, refusal of individuals to use vaccinations is a major health hazard, both to the child individually and to the community at large as well.

Doomberg on July 1, 2014 at 11:53 AM

I think you missing/ignoring where public health policy was a prime factor in the arguments in the HL case.
So I don’t share your view of this comparison being ‘silly’.
This is part of the ‘minefield’ Ginsburg warned about in her dissent.

In the same minefield…Plan B is about to be available OTC.
Assuming it will be allowed as an HSA purchase, what does this mean for Hobby Lobby’s employees who participate in a company funded HSA plan?
By HL’s reasoning in their suit, how could they not feel similarly ‘complicit’ and burdened?

I think these are reasonable and interesting questions.

verbaluce on July 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM

New studies on Autism are looking at Marijuana exposure and the use of prescription meds for depression, that affect the neuro system.

Web Md says “The risk is low and it is so important to treat depression! just like it is so important to treat ADHD with drugs.” But perhaps treating pregnant women with diet and exercise might help this just as much too, and not have the side effect of increased suicides.

If only people would suspect Pot and their anti depressant the way they suspect a shot given to ward off horrible diseases.

Fleuries on July 1, 2014 at 2:42 PM

It is the stated goal of Big Pharma to have every adult in the US on 2 daily meds by the time they are 40. How do these weaknesses in our system occur? by Big Pharma inserting causal factors in our routines. Such as: the ant poison aspertaine; excessive intake of floride and heavy metals thru our water treatment; vaccines, especially flu vaccine; prescriptions of meds with more side effects than medication benefit; suppression of disease symptoms instead of cures (HIV at $50/day); outlawing (chlorine dioxide for a whole host of stuff–because it is unpatentable and really cheap) or suppressing natural cures.

So let me give you a practical example: vinegar soaks for nail fungus. A doc will normally prescribe a 6 month regiment of meds which can injure your liver, especially when combined with alcohol. Instead soak in a 1/3 vinegar solution every other day for 6 months. The cost difference is enormous and you can still have your beer.

KenInIL on July 1, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Ditto what AJ says.

The feds can pay for and run 20,000 studies, but there are several valid questions about the effects of the vaccinations. I advocate that people educate themselves rather than accepting the word of Big Brother. It does not make you a loon to to be intellectually curious.

Oh really? What are they?

BTW, if you’ve seen the vaccination schedule for a newborn today, it’s a far cry from the polio, measles, and whooping cough I received some 40+ years ago.

kpguru on July 1, 2014 at 2:23 PM

So you mean in the past 40 years we’ve developed more vaccines to prevent even more childhood illnesses than just polio, measles and whooping cough? Awesome! Way to go, science! Big thanks to you for that one!

alchemist19 on July 1, 2014 at 3:20 PM

It is the stated goal of Big Pharma to have every adult in the US on 2 daily meds by the time they are 40.

“Big” corporate conspiracies! I love it!

How do these weaknesses in our system occur? by Big Pharma inserting causal factors in our routines. Such as: the ant poison aspertaine; excessive intake of floride and heavy metals thru our water treatment; vaccines, especially flu vaccine; prescriptions of meds with more side effects than medication benefit;

Must protect the purity of our precious bodily fluids!

suppression of disease symptoms instead of cures (HIV at $50/day);

Because killing a virus is such a trivial matter.

outlawing (chlorine dioxide for a whole host of stuff–because it is unpatentable and really cheap) or suppressing natural cures.

Because little high-valent chlorine never hurt anybody, did it?

So let me give you a practical example: vinegar soaks for nail fungus. A doc will normally prescribe a 6 month regiment of meds which can injure your liver, especially when combined with alcohol. Instead soak in a 1/3 vinegar solution every other day for 6 months. The cost difference is enormous and you can still have your beer.

KenInIL on July 1, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Just better hope the infection isn’t too deep for the vinegar soak to reach, or that it hasn’t spread to anywhere else in your body because if that’s the case then you’ve got an even more entrenched fungus and only a vinegar-smelling nail to show for it.

alchemist19 on July 1, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Guess maybe we should listen to qualified medical authorities rather than some blond bimbo when we make decisions about whether to vaccinate our children, huh?

wdkeller on July 1, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Vaccines are fine and necessary. My issue is the schedule and the amount given .

Does it make sense to give a 10 lb baby 2-3 vaccines in a visit??

Does it not make more sense 1 vaccine per minth until they have the weight that their bodies can handel it?

The above comments came from a peditrician i know. And to me it made sense

Even with one shot a baby can have a fever as an after effect. What about 2-3 competing ones??

The anti- vaccine crowd is fighting the wrong battle. Its the amount and timing that is the issue

disguted by the elites on July 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Guess maybe we should listen to qualified medical authorities rather than some blond bimbo when we make decisions about whether to vaccinate our children, huh?

wdkeller on July 1, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Would this be the qualified medical authorities who’ve been telling us for years to eat 10-12 servings of grains a day as part of a low fat diet? The authorities that told us trans-fats are good, saturated fats bad? Oh, wait the media is now reporting saturated fats aren’t so bad anymore but Bloomberg banned trans fats in NYC. Trust the food pyramid er plate er… whatever BigGov says!

Skepticism is healthy folks.

oryguncon on July 1, 2014 at 4:50 PM

CNN: Review of 20,000 studies shows vaccines are safe and necessary

Well of course that is what “THEY” say.

They also tell you Chemtrails aren’t real and used to control society, fluoridated water isn’t making everyone more complacent and cattle-like to allow a takeover, Fracking doesn’t cause houses to explode randomly, and the aliens aren’t harvesting your spleens for hyper-fuel.

SO clearly you can’t trust them.

You know, I’m sad I had to add the “aliens” bit so you’d have some hope of knowing this was sarcasm. That really bums me out.

gekkobear on July 1, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Skepticism is healthy folks.

oryguncon on July 1, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Yes. And one issue for skepticism is the choice of things for which they are demanding vaccination. Does a 12yo need a vaccination for what is essentially a STD? Yes, polio makes sense. But flu? (At least they’ve finally backed off to only insisting “vulnerable populations” get those, and optional for everyone else.)

GWB on July 1, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Yes. And one issue for skepticism is the choice of things for which they are demanding vaccination. Does a 12yo need a vaccination for what is essentially a STD? Yes, polio makes sense. But flu? (At least they’ve finally backed off to only insisting “vulnerable populations” get those, and optional for everyone else.)

GWB on July 1, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Yep: 2014 Recommended Immunizations for Children from Birth Through 6 Years Old

Warning, 2 page PDF.

slickwillie2001 on July 1, 2014 at 5:58 PM

There is no effective vaccine for Measles. The vaccines were removed from the market for lack of effectiveness and have not been replaced. There has been an effective vaccine for Rubella (also known as the 3 day measles when I was kid) for many years. But there has never been one for “Red” or “German” Measles. Red Measles has been under control for many years without vaccination anyway. When I was a kid it was a standard childhood disease. Most of my classmates in High School, never had it, but us MilBrats stationed in Europe certainly had.

It has been many years since I have come across anyone that had it and never left the US. There are quite probably, however, a good set of vaccination that you should have if you live in an area near large populations of 3rd world immigrants. The Amish are an exception to this, but Kalifornia definitely is not an exception. The way things are going, you may need Typhus vaccinations in the near future. Those shots are not fun, even for an adult.

Quartermaster on July 1, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Quartermaster on July 1, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Soon; check Drudge.

slickwillie2001 on July 1, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Here is a solution for any conflicted liberals:

Autism is not caused by vaccinations. It is caused by global warming.

s1im on July 1, 2014 at 9:26 PM

Guess maybe we should listen to qualified medical authorities rather than some blond bimbo when we make decisions about whether to vaccinate our children, huh?

wdkeller on July 1, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Idiotic comparisons to fat and sugar bans aside, absolutely.

There is no arguing the cold fact that millions have perished throughout history for want of what we are so fortunate to have today. Not a single inch of room to give gullible soccer moms or quacks with an Internet connection. This is a matter of life or death and not just for anyone stupid enough to throw all the proven science out the window.

Within living memory…right here in America…picture-perfect, white-as-Wonder-bread suburbs were terrified to let their children play outdoors because a crippling and incurable disease was tearing through the neighborhood. Medicine was only slightly less helpless against polio than the Black Plague – if you got it, that was that, and ‘damage control’ treatment was the BEST you could hope for.

Only a total fool would pretend it can’t happen again. And unlike government agents or politicians, rifles don’t do any good against germs.

LawfulGood on July 2, 2014 at 3:50 AM

Only a total fool would pretend it can’t happen again. And unlike government agents or politicians, rifles don’t do any good against germs.

LawfulGood on July 2, 2014 at 3:50 AM

And at the same time, I would consider someone to be quite gullible if they believed that every one of the 30+ vaccinations given were entirely necessary and that there was no mercenary intent involved in any of this.

I still stand by Reagan’s words, and I get very frightened when I hear “We’re the government and we’re here to help.”

Yes, vaccination saves lives. No, I don’t believe the government can be trusted to prepare an appropriate schedule.

AJsDaddie on July 2, 2014 at 7:36 AM

Here is a solution for any conflicted liberals:

Autism is not caused by vaccinations. It is caused by global warming.

s1im on July 1, 2014 at 9:26 PM

Autism might be “early onset liberalism.” Note that Obama exhibits many of the symptoms, including an inability to pay attention to others.

Has anybody checked Obama’s vaccinations? Or did those records disappear down the same rabbit hole as his birth certificate?

landlines on July 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM