The left loses their minds over Hobby Lobby decision

posted at 12:41 pm on June 30, 2014 by Noah Rothman

I imagine the horrified shrieks that rose from the streets outside the Supreme Court on Monday as the decision in the Hobby Lobby case began to filter out into the crowd of liberal observers was reminiscent of those poor souls who watched helplessly as the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire claimed the lives of 146 young, female garment workers.

In fact, the similarities are eerie. It seems that liberal commentators have convinced themselves that, just as was the case in 1911, the courts and the country have deemed women to be of lesser value than their male counterparts. The distinction between these two eras, of course, is that while that argument could be supported in 1911, it exists only in the heads of progressives in 2014.

NBC News journalist Pete Williams, an accomplished reporter who is not prone to indulge in speculation, went out of his way to insist repeatedly that the Court’s decision in this case was a narrow one. He noted that the decision extends only to the specific religious objections a handful of employers raised about providing abortifacients (as opposed to contraceptives). Williams added that Justice Anthony Kennedy allowed in his concurring opinion that the federal government can pay for and provide that coverage if employers would not.

The Federalist published a variety of other observations about this ruling which indicate that it was narrowly tailored to this specific case. The Court ruled that Hobby Lobby and other employers could not simply drop health coverage in order to avoid mandates. This decision does not apply to other government mandates like those requiring employers cover vaccinations. Finally, if the will of the public in the form of an electoral mandate creates a groundswell of support for a government-funded program which provides access to abortifacients, then that would be perfectly constitutional.

Williams’ MSNBC colleagues nodded along and, when asked for their contribution, proceeded to display none of this NBC reporter’s caution.

“I think we’ve seen a real goal post-moving here,” MSNBC.com’s Irin Carmon said. “We may say it is a narrow ruling because Taco Bell and Wal-Mart can’t opt out, but it is still an enormous expansion of corporate rights and of the refusal from the laws that are passed to create benefits for everybody.”

“The larger doctrinal implication here is potentially significant,” MSNBC host Ari Melber agreed. “For the first time, the Court is going and taking the First Amendment rights that we’ve seen long established for certain corporate entities and extending them to the religious idea.”

“Just because it was only restricted to women’s health access doesn’t mean that it doesn’t create a devastating precedent which says that women’s health care should be treated differently,” Carmon added. She added that the Republican Party is the biggest beneficiary of today’s ruling. “So, the context of this is an all-out assault on access to contraception and access to other reproductive health care services.”

HotAir’s Karl has accumulated some of the best examples of liberal “schadenfreude,” as he’s dubbed it, in which the left utterly and intentionally misconstrues the scope of this ruling. Incidentally, their reaction also helps to service what appears to be a widely shared victimhood fantasy.

We’ve seen indications that the left believes this decision is a prelude to theocracy:

We’ve seen liberal journalists and commentators rending garments over the implications of this ruling which exist only in their own minds:

Even poor SCOTUS Blog, an organization which merely reports the news out of the Supreme Court, has endured an torrent of misdirected liberal outrage:

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Finally, and expectedly, we’ve seen liberal politicians stoking ire, generating enthusiasm, and soliciting donations:

And this, via John Podhoretz’s inbox:

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It is interesting that there seems to be more outrage over this decision from the left than there was when the Court struck down dated portions of the Voting Rights Act. Though that decision had much farther reaching legal and political implications, this is the issue that has captured the passions of the left.


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Paperclips on June 30, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Well said, Paperclips. Well said.

Cherokee on June 30, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Read my comments on the other posts. I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Ban-hammer.

M240H on June 30, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Go ahead. They’ll have problems narrowing the list down to a million people who are thinking the same thoughts.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:21 PM

You’re tied to an IP, brother, this isn’t a random sheet of paper tacked to a telephone pole somewhere.

But anyhoo, be sure to send pics of your Social Justice actions, we want to know exactly how many pregnant women need to be burned to death in order to achieve a liberally-perfect society.

Bishop on June 30, 2014 at 1:24 PM

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.
 
jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

 
So is this simply because you disagree with their morals and politics, or is it because they’ve embarrassed Obama?

rogerb on June 30, 2014 at 1:24 PM

“… laws that are passed to create benefits from everybody.”

was this a typo – or a Freudian / redistributionist slip?

WaldoTJ on June 30, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Read my comments on the other posts. I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Talk about a WASTE of time.

Missilengr on June 30, 2014 at 1:25 PM

OT:

(ABC News) – The bodies of three Israeli teenagers who were kidnapped in the West Bank earlier this month have been found north of the city of Hebron, a source confirmed to ABC News today.

M240H on June 30, 2014 at 1:26 PM

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Now the fascist is putting on his brown shirt…..

Athos on June 30, 2014 at 1:27 PM

They’ll have problems narrowing the list down to a million people who are thinking the same thoughts.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:21 PM

HiveMind indeed

faraway on June 30, 2014 at 1:27 PM

I am butthurt and hungry. Mom, are my spaghettios ready yet?

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Drilled down and edited for accuracy. :)

Don’t ban him for the original comment. Let the unhinged kooks go crazy.

22044 on June 30, 2014 at 1:27 PM

You can be deprived of something you never had. No woman has ever had abortificant coverage from Hobby Lobby.

Immolate on June 30, 2014 at 1:28 PM

This isn’t a win for religious liberty it’s an affirmation of privilege for advocates of conservative sexual morality

Can someone tell me what the hell that even means?

Stoic Patriot on June 30, 2014 at 1:31 PM

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

I’m reminded of a team America world police quote about how sometimes lefties become terrorists.

jhffmn on June 30, 2014 at 1:31 PM

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Jimmy, I can just see you gleefully participating in Kristallnacht, too.

BTW, your ‘tolerance’ really does make your ass look big you look like a big, fat, intolerant, bigoted ass.

PS: I don’t call for the banhammer because I believe in more, not less, speech, but don’t be surprised if Ed, Allah, or Noah see things differently.

Resist We Much on June 30, 2014 at 1:32 PM

I’m just waiting for a rapist to give this defense….

“But I did it because I thought all women absolutely needed sex. After all, Hollywood, MSNBC, and feminists all talk like women must have sex or else they will die and that it is virtually impossible for women not to have sex”.

DethMetalCookieMonst on June 30, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Now the fascist is putting on his brown shirt…..

Athos on June 30, 2014 at 1:27 PM

The brown shirts acted openly, jimbo here is more of the straight-faced German citizen; he probably won’t actively shove people into the cattle car but he won’t exactly be sad when they’re gone.

Bishop on June 30, 2014 at 1:32 PM

The left loses their minds over Hobby Lobby decision
-Noah Rothman

You can tell yourself that, Noah.
Or you could take a trip down memory lane to this time last year?
To refresh your memory, it was weeks agonized conniption fits by ‘the right’. So much grief over Roberts revealing himself to being a closet Marxist.
Ha.

But seriously, this for sure isn’t a win for ‘the left’.
But neither you nor they should be getting drunk celebrating or grieving.

verbaluce on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

So is this simply because you disagree with their morals and politics, or is it because they’ve embarrassed Obama?

rogerb on June 30, 2014 at 1:24 PM

I disagree that their company can practice religion. And I disagree with their personal morals and politics.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

See that is what we mean…we know you are a true fascist…you know you are a true fascist. Why do people like you have to continually lie about your own true moral foundation when making your arguments?

You have no problem resorting to mob violence when you don’t get your way.

ClassicCon on June 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM

PS: I don’t call for the banhammer because I believe in more, not less, speech, but don’t be surprised if Ed, Allah, or Noah see things differently.

Resist We Much on June 30, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Technically not bannable. Not an encouragement or incitement for anyone to break a law.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM

The reason that the left is so up in arms over this is because it was part of Dear Leader’s agenda, and the court told them that it violated the constitution.

As for why this is getting more outrage over the VRA overturn: Well, dude, 1965 was so long ago, you know?

Obama’s fan club is filled with short-attention-span idiots who can’t remember two years ago, so why should we expect them to remember something from almost 50 years ago?

Horologium on June 30, 2014 at 1:35 PM

I disagree that they can practice religion. And I disagree with their personal morals and politics.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Slightly edited for accuracy this time. :)
But you can keep a guy busy.

22044 on June 30, 2014 at 1:35 PM

At least we do not tweet such a statement that liberals did like “It’s not legal bitchs!”

logicman_1998 on June 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.
 
jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

 
So is this simply because you disagree with their morals and politics, or is it because they’ve embarrassed Obama?
 
rogerb on June 30, 2014 at 1:24 PM

 
I disagree that their company can practice religion. And I disagree with their personal morals and politics.
 
jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

 
So their children should die because jim56 disagrees with their personal morals and politics.

rogerb on June 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

But neither you nor they should be getting drunk celebrating or grieving.

verbaluce on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

jim56 is wishing harm on the Hobby Lobby family. Uncalled for – do you agree?

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Democrats are reviving the Klan. Will you burn crosses too?

faraway on June 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Can’t believe we live in a world where we’d even consider letting big corps deny women access to basic care based on vague moral objections.

LOL. Brilliant insight from legal genius Lizzie Lie-a-watha Warren. How are women who work at Hobby Lobby being “denied access” to “basic care”? The only thing they’re being denied is the opportunity to have the government force their employer to pay for their abortion pills. Abortion pills are not “basic care,” and these women are not being “denied access” to them. They can still purchase them if they choose, they will just have to use their own funds to do so.

But hey, never let an opportunity to demagogue and mislead pass you by, right (faux) Cherokee chica?

AZCoyote on June 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Ask Sen Warren, “exactly which women are being denied?”. This ruling still allows women access……if they are willing to pay the cost.

Tater Salad on June 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Can’t believe we live in a world where we’d even consider letting big corps deny women access to basic care based on vague moral objections.

That must be on the second page of the ruling, where it says:

It is unConstitutional for women to manufacture, sell, purchase, transport, use, or otherwise conduct trade in contraceptives. In addition, the Court orders females who can’t control their sexual urges to stand on street corners wearing skimpy clothes, and to publicly beg for a prophylactic for a minimum of 2 hours. Women failing to obtain a prophylactic via this method are eligible to apply for government contraception assistance, limited to 6 events per year.

Wait, it doesn’t say that? Well then, what does it say?

BobMbx on June 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I disagree that their company can practice religion. And I disagree with their personal morals and politics.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

What sort of accidents are you hoping for to happen to these people?

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.
 
jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

 

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

 
So their children should die because jim56 disagrees with their personal morals and politics.
 
rogerb on June 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

 
Oh, and because the (D) majority, Reid, Pelosi, constitutional law professor President Barack Obama can’t figure out how to write a law.
 
Or was this the Greens fault?

rogerb on June 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM

So much grief over Roberts revealing himself to being a closet Marxist.
Ha.

verbaluce on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

That was two years ago.

Remember lefty reaction when the VRA was gutted?

jim56 wanted to raped Alito.

sentinelrules on June 30, 2014 at 1:39 PM

PS: I don’t call for the banhammer because I believe in more, not less, speech, but don’t be surprised if Ed, Allah, or Noah see things differently.

Resist We Much on June 30, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Technically not bannable. Not an encouragement or incitement for anyone to break a law.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Technically, that’s not your call. I’ve seen other posters banned for less.

Resist We Much on June 30, 2014 at 1:39 PM

And I disagree with their personal morals and politics.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

And I disagree with yours, what are my options?

Bishop on June 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM

I disagree that their company can practice religion. And I disagree with their personal morals and politics.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

What sort of accidents are you hoping for to happen to these people?

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM

He disagrees with their morals.

Apparently his morals allow for wishing for misfortune on those who disagree with you.

gwelf on June 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM

You really need to read up on the State of Texas, pal. You do not know what you are speaking about. Texas has a formidable, 3 branch military, with plenty of weapons capabilities.

Neither Texas, nor the United States wants to separate violently. But separate, we will. Do your research.

http://texnat.org/
bimmcorp on June 30, 2014 at 1:30 PM

jim56 is wishing harm on the Hobby Lobby family. Uncalled for – do you agree?

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

So I guess it’s fine to encourage (and support) Texas to separate violently from the US? Pot, meet kettle.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Technically not bannable. Not an encouragement or incitement for anyone to break a law.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Why don’t you google “Deb Frisch” and get back to us. She got famous a few years ago, and not in a good way, for losing her temper with some conservatives who didn’t agree with her and using wording pretty similar to yours, thinking she’d have no repercussions because it wuz the internet n stuff. Now she’s unemployable for the rest of her life.

Zoe on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Moderators: Wouldn’t it be fun to publicly publish jim56′s IP address?

After all, we don’t need to worry about retaliation, because all of the lefty blogs don’t let conservatives post anyway, so it’s not like there would be any consequences for us. As for jim56, maybe a little slut-shaming is in order.

Horologium on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

And I disagree with their personal morals and politics.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

And I disagree with yours, what are my options?

Bishop on June 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Well if you have jim56′s morals “hoping” something bad happens to him is on the table.

gwelf on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Technically not bannable. Not an encouragement or incitement for anyone to break a law.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Oh, I still think that falls under the “bannable” heading. HotAir isn’t a staging ground for liberal anger.

will77jeff on June 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM

So I guess it’s fine to encourage (and support) Texas to separate violently from the US? Pot, meet kettle.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Where did I do that?

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM

So their children should die because jim56 disagrees with their personal morals and politics.

rogerb on June 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Not exactly. They should die because jim56 is right.

Do you see the difference?

BobMbx on June 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM

So I guess it’s fine to encourage (and support) Texas to separate violently from the US? Pot, meet kettle.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Why would it be violent? Thought you little fascists were all about “choice”?

You must be angling for tenure or something…it worked for little trust fund terrorist Billy Ayers after all.

ClassicCon on June 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM

And I disagree with yours, what are my options?

Bishop on June 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM

I’m waiting for jimmyboys response.

VegasRick on June 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM

So I guess it’s fine to encourage (and support) Texas to separate violently from the US? Pot, meet kettle.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

And this analogy does confirm you’re wishing violence on the Hobby Lobby owners, correct?

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Why don’t you google “Deb Frisch” and get back to us. She got famous a few years ago, and not in a good way, for losing her temper with some conservatives who didn’t agree with her and using wording pretty similar to yours, thinking she’d have no repercussions because it wuz the internet n stuff. Now she’s unemployable for the rest of her life.

Zoe on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Really? So her words are similar to mine? You need your memory refreshed.

http://patterico.com/2006/07/30/a-comment-from-deb-frisch/

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens. Nice little business, family, and employees you’ve got there. I’d hate for anything to happen to them.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

It should surprise absolutely no one that the Chicago Jesus’ fanboy loves him some ‘Chicago Way.’

Resist We Much on June 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM

HotAir isn’t a staging ground for liberal anger.

will77jeff on June 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM

As an unwritten rule, trolls get away with more.

It drives traffic.

cozmo on June 30, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Brilliant post by Sachiko. Rogerb, you need to file this one.

ToddPA on June 30, 2014 at 1:08 PM

thanks, i feel better now that i’ve ranted hahaha

Sachiko on June 30, 2014 at 1:44 PM

So I guess it’s fine to encourage (and support) Texas to separate violently from the US? Pot, meet kettle.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Texas seceding would simply be an “unfortunate” accident, and you support such accidents occurring, so it’s all cool.

Bishop on June 30, 2014 at 1:44 PM

This isn’t a win for religious liberty it’s an affirmation of privilege for advocates of conservative sexual morality

Can someone tell me what the hell that even means?

Stoic Patriot on June 30, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Old white men get to decide who pays the bill for birth control.

Happy Nomad on June 30, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Really? So her words are similar to mine? You need your memory refreshed.

http://patterico.com/2006/07/30/a-comment-from-deb-frisch/

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Why don’t you take ownership of your threats to other human beings instead of changing the subject?

Be a man.

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Not an encouragement or incitement for anyone to break a law.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM

It’s not really a law if fellow Marxists rape, kill, or burn.

faraway on June 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM

So I guess it’s fine to encourage (and support) Texas to separate violently from the US? Pot, meet kettle.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

And this analogy does confirm you’re wishing violence on the Hobby Lobby owners, correct?

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Uum, no. This just confirms that someone on your side was supporting Texas in violently separating from the US which would seem to be a clear encouragement of a criminal act.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM

And this analogy does confirm you’re wishing violence on the Hobby Lobby owners, correct?

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Now you’ve done it.

Bishop on June 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM

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davidk on June 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Why don’t you take ownership of your threats to other human beings instead of changing the subject?

Be a man.

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Being a child of the left means never having to take responsibility for your bomb throwing…ask Billy Ayers.

ClassicCon on June 30, 2014 at 1:46 PM

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davidk on June 30, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Can’t believe we live in a world where we’d even consider letting big corps deny women access to basic care based on vague moral objections.

the logic from the left is astounding. No one is being denied anything… I am just no longer forced to pay for a small segment of womens contraceptive care.

Koa on June 30, 2014 at 1:46 PM

So I guess it’s fine to encourage (and support) Texas to separate violently from the US? Pot, meet kettle.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

It would be violent only if the government resists the move by Texas. It could let them go peacefully.

BobMbx on June 30, 2014 at 1:47 PM

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM

You should talk to libfree.

She almost lost her job at East Georgia University for less offensive comments posted here.

sentinelrules on June 30, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Hmmmm – I take a prescription for my blood pressure – I get the generic brand at Walmart – $10 for 3 months, no insurance involved – same price for almost all of their generic prescriptions.
So, you lefty women can’t survive if your sex life depends on the gubmint paying that $3.33 per month for you?

Also, if you want your company to provide health insurance coverage for birth control – DON’T TAKE A JOB WITH HOBBY LOBBY – get a job somewhere else.

dentarthurdent on June 30, 2014 at 1:47 PM

But neither you nor they should be getting drunk celebrating or grieving.

verbaluce on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

jim56 is wishing harm on the Hobby Lobby family. Uncalled for – do you agree?

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Not at all.

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

A ridiculous and offensive thing to say. They got their day in court – and they won. I’m not pleased about that, but one can express that without b.s. like this.
I’m against banning – but not apologizing…which you should do.

verbaluce on June 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Uum, no. This just confirms that someone on your side was supporting Texas in violently separating from the US which would seem to be a clear encouragement of a criminal act.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM

1) Show me the link
2) Show me I am somehow responsible for it

You are the one wishing violence on other human beings due to your dissatisfaction over a SCOTUS ruling.

What you are doing is sick and indefensible.

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

See this?

Because Leftards “care” enough to force you to “care” too ….. or else.

Augustinian on June 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

The brown shirts acted openly, jimbo here is more of the straight-faced German citizen; he probably won’t actively shove people into the cattle car but he won’t exactly be sad when they’re gone.

Bishop on June 30, 2014 at 1:32 PM

That’s hardly fair to Jimbo – I’m sure he’d be more than happy to keep an eye out for “those people” as well, and call the authorities like a good citizen when he thinks he spots some of them.

Let’s give him his full due.

Gator Country on June 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Uum, no. This just confirms that someone on your side was supporting Texas in violently separating from the US which would seem to be a clear encouragement of a criminal act.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Yeah…there’s that little word in your comment, what was it again…”unfortunate”…yeah that’s it.

What exactly were you imagining when the word “unfortunate” entered the equation?

Bishop on June 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

If the left is going nuts over a relatively narrow loss, like HL, they’re really going to melt down over the losses to come!

MTF on June 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Really? So her words are similar to mine? You need your memory refreshed.

http://patterico.com/2006/07/30/a-comment-from-deb-frisch/

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM

All due respect, you need a more complete history. She said (not on Patterico, on Protein Wisdom, in July of 2006 IIRC), that if something bad should happen to happen to to Jeff Goldstein’s two year old child she wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.

She said a lot of other stuff too. But that was the original comment that started the firestorm. And as I said, the comment was similar to yours. No incitement to violence or illegal activity, as you said. Yet she ended up losing her livelihood, permanently, within 48 hours of that temper tantrum.

Zoe on June 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

A ridiculous and offensive thing to say. They got their day in court – and they won. I’m not pleased about that, but one can express that without b.s. like this.
I’m against banning – but not apologizing…which you should do.

verbaluce on June 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Agreed. I am not for banning either. The more we expose the nutbag fringe like jim56, the better.

Chuck Schick on June 30, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Technically not bannable. Not an encouragement or incitement for anyone to break a law.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM

The HA moderators won’t sit there and fume that you can’t be banned because you “technically” didn’t break the terms of service.

I’d like to know why it is that you wish harm on a family you never met just because they belive in the sanctity of life and are unwilling to sacrifice their religious faith just because some slut-lover in the White House thinks that abortions should be free.

Happy Nomad on June 30, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Uum, no. This just confirms that someone on your side was supporting Texas in violently separating from the US which would seem to be a clear encouragement of a criminal act.

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM

You are a liar. Nobody said violent. You are the one hoping for something bad to happen to somebody.

VegasRick on June 30, 2014 at 1:49 PM

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

You’d love this person:

A Face Only Richard Trumka Could Love…

Resist We Much on June 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM

NonProphetess ‏@nonprophetess 2m

Someone enlighten me as to how #HobbyLobby denying BC is any different than a JW employer denying blood transfusions.

Because one takes a life while the other saves a life?

davidk on June 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM

A ridiculous and offensive thing to say. They got their day in court – and they won. I’m not pleased about that, but one can express that without b.s. like this.
I’m against banning – but not apologizing…which you should do.

verbaluce on June 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Imagine how pissed you’re going to be if Dog Eater does an E.O. end-around on this.

Bishop on June 30, 2014 at 1:51 PM

I’m hoping for a series of “unfortunate” accidents to happen to Hobby Lobby stores and the Greens.
 
jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

 
http://www.religionnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/thumbRNS-STEVE-GREEN031414d-427×363.jpg

rogerb on June 30, 2014 at 1:51 PM

So much grief over Roberts revealing himself to being a closet Marxist.
Ha.

verbaluce on June 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

That was two years ago.

sentinelrules on June 30, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Time flies!

verbaluce on June 30, 2014 at 1:51 PM

They’re liberals. Did you really expect honest commentary?

GarandFan on June 30, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Can’t believe we live in a world where we’d even consider letting big corps deny women access to basic care abortion based on vague moral objections.

LOL. Brilliant insight from legal genius Lizzie Lie-a-watha Warren. How are women who work at Hobby Lobby being “denied access” to “basic care”? The only thing they’re being denied is the opportunity to have the government force their employer to pay for their abortion pills. Abortion pills are not “basic care,” and these women are not being “denied access” to them. They can still purchase them if they choose, they will just have to use their own funds to do so.

But hey, never let an opportunity to demagogue and mislead pass you by, right (faux) Cherokee chica?

AZCoyote on June 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Exactly. These idiots think they’re so clever that we couldn’t possibly notice they’re playing smarmy little word games rather than speaking to the subject at hand… abortion.

Murf76 on June 30, 2014 at 1:51 PM

I’m just waiting for a rapist to give this defense….

“But I did it because I thought all women absolutely needed sex. After all, Hollywood, MSNBC, and feminists all talk like women must have sex or else they will die and that it is virtually impossible for women not to have sex”.

DethMetalCookieMonst on June 30, 2014 at 1:32 PM

lol. good point.

and, another rapist defense that the left should support is “i can’t control myself. my body wants to have sex and you can’t expect me to have self-control and hold back my sexual urges.”

because every time we conservatives suggest self control and personal responsibility, the left gets angry and acts like it’s impossible.

Sachiko on June 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

beast. ‏@MaestroBunny 4m

This #SCOTUS #HobbyLobby decision only applies to contraception? If this doesn’t prove there is a war on women, I don’t know what does.

davidk on June 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Imagine how pissed you’re going to be if Dog Eater does an E.O. end-around on this.

Bishop on June 30, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Not as angry as I’ll be at a Republican who doesn’t do an EO end around around Roe v Wade…

harlekwin15 on June 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Being a child of the left means never having to take responsibility for your bomb throwing…ask Billy Ayers.

ClassicCon on June 30, 2014 at 1:46 PM

And being in sympathy with Billy, Jimbo would have no problems with Prairie Fire or exterminating 25M+ simply because they didn’t see things how he does, sharing his values and morality, and couldn’t be properly ‘reeducated’ in camps run by him and the rest of the brown shirts.

Athos on June 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

LieberforCongress ‏@Lieber4Congress 50s

#MedicareforAll prevents #HobbyLobby fiascoes — http://www.lieberforcongress.com/2014/06/30/medicare-for-all-prevents-hobby-lobby-fiascoes/

davidk on June 30, 2014 at 1:53 PM

And being in sympathy with Billy, Jimbo would have no problems with Prairie Fire or exterminating 25M+ simply because they didn’t see things how he does, sharing his values and morality, and couldn’t be properly ‘reeducated’ in camps run by him and the rest of the brown shirts.

Athos on June 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

You can’t get to worker’s paradise without breaking some Kulak skulls comrade….

harlekwin15 on June 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM

A ridiculous and offensive thing to say. They got their day in court – and they won. I’m not pleased about that, but one can express that without b.s. like this.
I’m against banning – but not apologizing…which you should do.

verbaluce on June 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

i must say, thank you for calling this crazy person out. gotta give credit where credit is due =)

Sachiko on June 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Note to the young bucks that are looking for easy lays:

Now, not only should you keep your eye out for women who b*tch about “slut shaming” (surprise, surprise, they tend to be easy), you can now also look for easy lays by looking for women who b*tch about the Hobby Lobby decision.

DethMetalCookieMonst on June 30, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Hillary: “Bill was so broke once, he couldn’t buy contraceptives for all his womenz”

faraway on June 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM

i must say, thank you for calling this crazy person out. gotta give credit where credit is due =)

Sachiko on June 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Never forget what they said when Justice Iscariot Roberts saved Ogabecare with “it’s a tax babe”…

“THIS IS HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS”

now not so much….BECAUSE the left wants to play Calvinball not ANY consistent system.

harlekwin15 on June 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Many of us already knew that jim56 is a ghoul. We can add wannabe brownshirt to that.

22044 on June 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM

A ridiculous and offensive thing to say. They got their day in court – and they won. I’m not pleased about that, but one can express that without b.s. like this.
I’m against banning – but not apologizing…which you should do.

verbaluce on June 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Yes.

davidk on June 30, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Affirming religious liberty as guaranteed by the first amendment allows a baker the right to not serve a client who chooses a lifestyle that violates a religious belief. That is why the left is freaking out over this. Its ultimately the same argument.

Ellis on June 30, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Does this mean Sandra Fluke is pregnant?

TooTall on June 30, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Let’s hope not!

Alien was scary enough, I’d hate to think what evil spawn would pop out of her.

Not to mention that it would really disappoint me to see any red-blooded male so desperate as to ‘…a sexual relationship with that woman (?), Ms. Fluke.’

It shrivels me timber to even think about it.

To paraphrase Winston Churchill, “Never has one woman needed so little birth control to prevent becoming pregnant by so few men.”

ZeusGoose on June 30, 2014 at 1:59 PM

Women with “gaul”:

Selena Coppock ‏@SelenaCoppock 1m

I can’t tell who #HobbyLobby hates more: women w/ enough gaul to plan their reproductive futures or President Obama!

davidk on June 30, 2014 at 1:59 PM

jim56 on June 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

At least we have confirmation of what you are now.

M240H on June 30, 2014 at 1:26 PM

That is very sad news.

dogsoldier on June 30, 2014 at 1:59 PM

It’s time that five men on the Supreme Court stop deciding what happens to women.

— Senator Harry Reid (@SenatorReid) June 30, 2014

So does that mean the rulling on Roe v. Wade can be recinded? After all, it was primarly men that decided on the ruling.

DethMetalCookieMonst on June 30, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Limbaugh just stated that Buzzy Ginsburg’s dissent is 35 pages long.

35 pages … so apparently lost-minded Buzzy Ginsburg isn’t taking the 1st Amendment well…

viking01 on June 30, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Unfortunately Ruth fell asleep at the keyboard again so fourteen pages of that is the letter “d”.

slickwillie2001 on June 30, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Meredith Fenton ‏@meredithfenton 2m

“The court, I fear, has ventured into a minefield.” Justice Ginsberg on #HobbyLobby http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/best-lines-hobby-lobby-decision

davidk on June 30, 2014 at 2:00 PM

American religious leaders desire to make Christianity a condition of employment.

libfreeordie on June 30, 2014 at 1:59 PM

The cult is strong with this one.

faraway on June 30, 2014 at 2:00 PM

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