Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on June 28, 2014 by Allahpundit

U.S. Sen. Tom Harkin says it’s time for the Washington Redskins professional football team to drop its name, which is considered racist by many tribal organizations.

“It has become clear to me over time that the name of the “Washington Redskins” is an affront to Native Americans and it is time to change it,” Harkin said Thursday in his weekly conference call with Iowa reporters. “This football team enjoys a lot of public support here around the seat of government, and it is just an affront to Native Americans. “

He added that he had heard the comparison made, “What if the New England Patriots were called the New England Whiteskins?”

***

If Arizona Sen. John McCain owned the Washington Redskins, he would consider changing the name of the organization…

“I don’t think it’s a role for the patent office, honest to god,” he said. “I kind of thought the patent office was supposed to be involved in patents. But I do believe if the Native American community views this as offensive, then it’s offensive.”…

“We have many local tribes in my state of Arizona, and they come to me and tell me its offensive, ok? So if its offensive, then why don’t we take that into consideration?” McCain said. “One of the most darkest chapters in American history is our relations with the Native Americans. When an advanced civilization collides with a less advanced one, really terrible things happen. And it’s probably the worst chapter in American history, as we went west and became the nation that we are, we really did some terrible things. And many of our Native Americans are very sensitive because of our history.

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We have U.S. Senators attacking a private Virginia business because of its name. And let’s get one thing clear: this isn’t an organic movement. This is a made movement. This is a movement created by a rich member of the Oneida Tribe up in Connecticut [sic], who’s funding it, who’s promoting it…

“And the last thing I’ll say about this movement for the Redskins to change their name: it truly is political correctness on steroids in overdrive. That’s exactly what it is. So ladies and gentlemen, we’re here to protect the integrity of a Virginia business that thousands, tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Virginians love to support and love to cheer for. And they’re proud of the Redskins name, and they do not think that there’s ANY racism in that name. They see it as a point of pride, as do I.”

***

[N]ow Snyder is fighting back by trying to create some positive media of his own. Which, we suppose, is the reason he, as reported by NBC 12, has hired liberal political blogger Ben Tribbett.

“I have been a Redskins fan my entire life,” Tribbett said, via the website. “It is an honor to help the team promote a tradition that means so much to so many people.”

It’s an interesting hire for the team, because so much of the pressure to change the name has emanated from those who would consider themselves left-leaning in the political world. Considering that’s where Tribbett’s political loyalties also seem to lie, perhaps Snyder believes he can win this fight by convincing a liberal that he can convince other liberals to temper down the pressure…

Writes NBC 12: “Tribbett is a known progressive figure in Virginia who is in passionate support of defending the nickname. He brings deep political ties to the conversation and has a unique knack for understanding the changing political winds in the State Capitol. It shows that Snyder is continuing to bare down in a fight that doesn’t appear to be going away any time soon.”

***

[W]e are just getting started. We will not give up, no matter what future rulings say. We intend to change not only the Washington team’s name, but the names of other sports franchises that treat us as mascots or relics —as if we had died out as a people long ago. If Dan Snyder, the owner of the Washington football team, finally sees the light and agrees to drop his franchise’s despicable name, it will prove to be an important precedent in professional sports. We have already had tremendous success at the local and college level, where governing bodies are less concerned about dollars and more sensitive to their communities. Since 1970, when the University of Oklahoma retired its mascot “Little Red,” colleges and elementary, middle and high schools nationwide have dropped more than 2,000 such “Indian” stereotypes from their athletic programs. By our count that’s more than two-thirds of all such names, meaning we have a little more than 900 to go…

By trumping up these phony histories and pretending that its use of the R-word is far less offensive than it really is, the Washington franchise has managed to keep public outrage to a minimum—until recently. But judging from the growing outcry against the R-word—even from well-known sports pundits like Bob Costas – the team can’t hold back the tide of opposition much longer. It has declared that it will appeal the TTAB’s decision. It might produce actual Native supporters in this round, but no show of support will equal the widespread Native opposition to the team’s name, nor eventually that of the American public as a whole.

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But even if the NFL and Redskins brass come to their senses and rename the team, a greater symbolic injustice would continue to afflict Indians — an injustice perpetuated not by a football club but by our federal government.

In the United States today, the names Apache, Comanche, Chinook, Lakota, Cheyenne and Kiowa apply not only to Indian tribes but also to military helicopters. Add in the Black Hawk, named for a leader of the Sauk tribe. Then there is the Tomahawk, a low-altitude missile, and a drone named for an Indian chief, Gray Eagle. Operation Geronimo was the end of Osama bin Laden…

If the native tribes did not stand a chance, this does not imply lack of resistance or of courage; regardless, it doesn’t much matter in this context. Whatever courage they had, the U.S. military is not heir to it. If honor matters to the members of our armed forces, they will agree.

***

Few people would have expected the future of the Redskins to be determined by an obscure panel in a relatively small government agency. Yet the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board showed little restraint in launching itself into this heated argument — issuing an opinion that supports calls for change from powerful politicians, including President Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). The board had at its disposal a ridiculously ambiguous standard that allows the denial of a trademark if it “may disparage” a “substantial composite” of a group at the time the trademark is registered.

This standard isn’t concerned with how widely offensive a trademark may be now, or with how the general population or even a majority of the group in question views it. It didn’t matter to the patent office that polls show substantial majorities of the public and the Native American community do not find the name offensive…

When agencies engage in content-based speech regulation, it’s more than the usual issue of “mission creep.” As I’ve written before in these pages, agencies now represent something like a fourth branch in our government — an array of departments and offices that exercise responsibilities once dedicated exclusively to the judicial and legislative branches. Insulated from participatory politics and accountability, these agencies can shape political and social decision-making. To paraphrase Clausewitz, water, taxes and even trademarks appear to have become the continuation of politics by other means.

What is needed is a new law returning these agencies to their core regulatory responsibilities and requiring speech neutrality in enforcement. We do not need faceless federal officials to become arbiters of our social controversies. There are valid objections to the Redskins name, but it is a public controversy that demands a public resolution, not a bureaucratic one.

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Trademarks propose a commercial transaction. When you see or hear a trademark, you immediately receive information in a short-hand way that communicates where the products come from, or what level of service you can expect. Trademarks are First Amendment protected expression. There should be no issue with limiting their use to mislead the public. After all, what point do they serve if they do not propose a truthful association with their owner? And what rational governmental purpose does it serve to deny a benefit to a business because it might be deemed “immoral” by someone?

And why are we even arguing the point? The government should not be in the business of deciding what is moral, immoral, or offensive. This section of the trademark act is a leftover from Victorian times, and is used now primarily to promote social agendas with coercive censorship…

In this case, what is the governmental purpose in depriving the Redskins of their trademark registration? Is it that the government is serving as a morality teacher? Is it choosing a favored position, and then enforcing it by only giving government benefits to companies that agree with that orthodoxy?

Do you trust any government to tell you what your morality should be?

***

Debate has been simmering for a while now on whether the Washington Redskins football team should change its name. Some people consider it offensive. There’s a reasonable debate to be had on that question. But the federal government has now taken sides in this cultural controversy: The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office canceled the team’s trademark registrations on the grounds that they disparage Native Americans.

The most troubling of these stories is the last one, because the government is getting involved — and because there are calls for it to get more involved. The Washington Post editorialized that the trademark decision was a blow for tolerance, which seems close to the opposite of the truth, and noted approvingly that senators with a say in the team’s tax status had urged a name change. But using the power of government to settle these disputes can’t set a good precedent…

If we want to avoid becoming a culture of endless grievance-taking and witch-hunting, we must also show some judgment about which provocations are necessary ones.

***

Americans would enhance domestic tranquility by giving offense—but also by taking it—less readily. Those having, or claiming to have, porcelain egos may secure political victories by wielding the power to shame and silence, but do not deserve respect. As the whole world becomes a china shop, the only way to avoid being a bull, or a bully, is to stand perfectly still, endlessly.

Demanding that people never say anything that might be taken as an affront creates perverse incentives, however. As it becomes clear that efforts not to offend are futile, being a bull becomes a way to rebuke the china shop’s proliferating, arbitrary, asymmetrical rules. For his own safety and Holland’s concord, it would have been better if Theo van Gogh had not routinely referred to that country’s Muslim population as “goat f**kers.” When, however, the governing pieties become utterly suffocating, being as offensive as possible comes to seem like the only way to raise questions ruled unfit for polite society—like the status, rights, and duties of Muslim immigrants in the Netherlands—as well as to protest the whole regime of discourse propriety. Twenty-first-century American conservatives may be tempted to emulate van Gogh by, for example, defending “Washington Redskins” unreservedly and campaigning to bring back Chief Noc-a-Homa in the bargain. If you’re going to be denounced for insensitivity no matter how hard you try to play nice, in other words, you may as well go out of your way to play rough.

***

We, the American people, must cease being distracted by peripheral issues and demand that our government officials focus their attention on the myriad problems that threaten to destroy our way of life. Like the ancient Romans, we are in danger of being distracted by relatively unimportant issues while our society crumbles beneath us. I challenge those who say I am exaggerating to a debate on this issue.

Many people equate political correctness with kind and compassionate speech. The two things are vastly different and have very different purposes. Political correctness is meant to control thought patterns and speech content, creating unanimity and societal conformity, while kind and compassionate speech is meant to take into consideration the feelings and circumstances of others without compromising the truth. It is a much better alternative.

We need to be wary of those who attempt to convince groups of people that they should be offended by a word, phrase, or symbol instead of concentrating on the real message being conveyed. These people remind me of the troublemakers in grade school who enjoyed watching the fallout from their devious ploys.

In today’s politically correct society, we are in danger of extinguishing interpersonal communications altogether for fear of offending someone. All of this would be comically absurd if it were not so tragic and such an immense departure from the ideal of a free and prosperous society that was envisioned by our Founders.


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Go Redskins

RickB on June 28, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Hey, I’m first!!

8 weight on June 28, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Ratso?

Judge_Dredd on June 28, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Blah Blah Blah it’s Redskins time

RickB on June 28, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Are we back at that again? With all the disasters and scandals going on they spend their time on dumb stuff like this.

Huckabee had that teenage girl on who was kidnapped by the state of Massachusetts. He spearheaded the battle to get her back. People need to go to jail.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Pic of the Day: Looks Like Ratso’s Been Hitting The Bottle…AGAIN.

Resist We Much on June 28, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Ratso needs a smoke.

RickB on June 28, 2014 at 8:38 PM

What Ken Hamblin called “professional victimization.”

viking01 on June 28, 2014 at 8:38 PM

AWESOME NEW MASCOT!!!!

abobo on June 28, 2014 at 8:38 PM

RickB on June 28, 2014 at 8:34 PM

100% right. Go Redskins!

On a side note, does it matter if the word is capitalized? And what if some fanatic fan names his newborn Redskins?

platypus on June 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on June 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names, now those things can really hurt me.

Flange on June 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM

I looked up the MI Congressional delegation on NumbersUSA regarding immigration and the best are C+including my backbencher. Let’s see if he responds to my e-mail. Some of the stuff I have read on this board makes my hair stand on end.

8 weight on June 28, 2014 at 8:40 PM

I am logged in and have Javascript enabled in order to post.

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM

viking01 on June 28, 2014 at 8:38 PM

I miss Ken. He was solid and he never pandered to anybody.

platypus on June 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on June 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Didn’t you misspell “blah?”

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM

And what if some fanatic fan names his newborn Redskins?

platypus on June 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Some federal judge whore will rule the name un-Constitutional….and cancel an election if necessary.

viking01 on June 28, 2014 at 8:42 PM

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Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Good for you.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:42 PM

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Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM

“Well, aren’t you special.”

– SNL Church Lady

platypus on June 28, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Judge_Dredd on June 28, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Oh, I made fun you last night, when you weren’t here. Yes, yes I did.

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Hey, I’m first second!!

8 weight on June 28, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Let me fix that for you.

RickB on June 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Didn’t you misspell “blah?”

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Either that or it’s got the wrong game of teacher.

Judge_Dredd on June 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM

I am logged in and have Javascript enabled in order to post.

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Good for you.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:42 PM

“Well, aren’t you special.”

– SNL Church Lady

platypus on June 28, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Just following orders.

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Oh, I made fun you last night, when you weren’t here. Yes, yes I did.

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Get out! Link it! Or at least tell me the page.

Judge_Dredd on June 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM

First president of the NFL was.

goatweed on June 28, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Just following orders.

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM

From out there?

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:45 PM

AP, why do you keep badgering us with this story. Just because a bunch of no names keep harping on it doesn’t mean you need to keep throwing this second rate story at us.

If you are going to perseverate something why not do it on something a bit more consequential, like illegal immigration crisis. Of course you’d have to cover the story a heck of a lot more before anyone could reasonably claim HA was perseverating about it, but it would be nice to see you try to reach that point.

Dusty on June 28, 2014 at 8:45 PM

I’ve finally been worn down by all the talk and protestations. It’s time for the Washington Redskins to change the name . . .

To the Washington Scalpers.

TXUS on June 28, 2014 at 8:45 PM

I miss Ken [Hamblin]. He was solid and he never pandered to anybody.

platypus on June 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM

To use one of Ken Hamblin’s favorite lines:

“Should Haley Barbour’s attempts to screw the voters for Cochran backfire “he’ll be more nervous than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs…”

viking01 on June 28, 2014 at 8:46 PM

On a side note, does it matter if the word is capitalized? And what if some fanatic fan names his newborn Redskins?

platypus on June 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Remember this controversy.

RickB on June 28, 2014 at 8:46 PM

I have seen an idea floating around the internet -

Keep the Washington Redskins name and replace the Indian face
on the logo with a redskin potato!

Amjean on June 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM

“It has become clear to me over time that the name of the “Washington Redskins” is an affront to Native Americans

A Mexican military helicopter fired on U.S. border patrol agents on the Tohono O’odham Indian Nation.

You don’t hear any Native American outrage about that.

Glad they’ve got their priorities straight.

MichaelGabriel on June 28, 2014 at 8:49 PM

“he’ll be more nervous than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs…”

viking01 on June 28, 2014 at 8:46 PM

I think that came from a guy who did country humor back in the early days of tv. Can’t remember his name.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:49 PM

I’ll make the anti-Redskins crowd a deal. If they want Snyder to change the name, they must also demand that the state of Oklahoma rebrand themselves. After all, their current name means “red people”.

Doughboy on June 28, 2014 at 8:50 PM

I think that came from a guy who did country humor back in the early days of tv. Can’t remember his name.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:49 PM

I don’t doubt it but Ken Hamblin sure liked to quote it.

viking01 on June 28, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Keep the Washington Redskins name and replace the Indian face
on the logo with a redskin potato!

Amjean on June 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM

It’s way too simple. The trial lawyers would never permit it until they got at least five years worth of fees out of the case.

platypus on June 28, 2014 at 8:51 PM

I don’t doubt it but Ken Hamblin sure liked to quote it.

viking01 on June 28, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Who is he? Did he die, get fired, what?

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM

The country – and the world – are circling the crapper, and I’m supposed to care about this? I think not…

dpduq on June 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Get out! Link it! Or at least tell me the page.

Judge_Dredd on June 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM

I said that you thought you were The Law, but that’s really your girlfriend’s job.

Just following orders.

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM

From out there?

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:45 PM

From out there on the sign-in page.

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Are we back at that again? With all the disasters and scandals going on they spend their time on dumb stuff like this.
………………..
Exactly with just a little bit of digging they could have come up with this going on in Mississippi.

http://mississippiconservativedaily.com/2014/05/27/thad-cochran-says-he-will-serve-full-term-others-do-not-agree/

Seems Haley Barbour just couldn’t stand to see his lobbying group go down in flames if ol’ Thad Cochran was not elected again.
trouble is no on expects Cochran,76,to actually serve out his term. So, speculation started who would be the man to replace him.
Seems it may be Congressman Greg Harper according to the link above and clip below.
Here’s a clip:

……..Shaver adds that he’s heard Rep. Gregg Harper (R-MS) is the likely choice for Cochran’s replacement, if that’s how it goes down, mid-term.

“I’ve been told that Phil Bryant likes Gregg Harper a whole lot,” Shaver said. “If you sit and look who in Mississippi is the heir apparent to Thad, again you go back and look at Roger Wicker and you say, again, there was nobody else that was lined up to do it. What I have heard is that is what the governor wants. He wants Gregg Harper in that position.”

Seems Barbour and family except for his brother who was a McDaniel supporter are perfectly willing to use the Miss. commie-dems to defeat a Tea Party candidate, McDaniel, or basically anyone who threatened his lobbying empire said to reach from dc to Miss.
Sick, sick.
Once this story gets out and it will, the war on rinos and the GOPe will intensify even more. The fat cats in the GOP may have paid a very high price to keep their pork alive in Miss.

rodguy911 on June 28, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Huckabee had that teenage girl on who was kidnapped by the state of Massachusetts. He spearheaded the battle to get her back. People need to go to jail.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:36 PM

I caught just the very end of it. That wonderful smile told me she’s gonna be fine. I hope that family sues everyone responsible for that mess into oblivion.

Shay on June 28, 2014 at 8:54 PM

The local softball team, the “Liquored Up Savages”, are getting nervous.

BL@KBIRD on June 28, 2014 at 8:55 PM

The law doesn’t make mistakes…
But on another note I was at Petsmart buying catfood. I always look at the cats there. What did they have? 2 Ratso kittens!

Judge_Dredd on June 28, 2014 at 8:56 PM

“It has become clear to me over time that the name of the “Washington Redskins” is an affront to Native Americans and it is time to change it,” Harkin said Thursday in his weekly conference call with Iowa reporters.

So… Washington Redskins out… Washington Porkskins in ???

elgeneralisimo on June 28, 2014 at 8:57 PM

The law doesn’t make mistakes…
But on another note I was at Petsmart buying catfood. …

Judge_Dredd on June 28, 2014 at 8:56 PM

I was living vicariously through you. Are you trying to bore me to death?

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when [...] the red man can get ahead, man — (laughter) …

It seems that talking about THE RED MAN – and the fact that he was behind – was a source of laughter for Barky’s OFFICIAL inaugural benediction prayer.

It would be funny if we didn’t have to live with these same lowlife dipsh!ts.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 28, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I was living vicariously through you. Are you trying to bore me to death?

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 8:57 PM

More than likely. Sounds like me anyway.

Judge_Dredd on June 28, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Ratso!

OmahaConservative on June 28, 2014 at 8:58 PM

How about an erect phallic Redskin peanut as a logo?

BL@KBIRD on June 28, 2014 at 8:59 PM

As a White Sock, I’m personally offended by the name of Obama’s favorite baseball team and demand it’s trademark be revoked!

/bluegill

ShainS on June 28, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Pic of the Day: Looks Like Ratso’s Been Hitting The Bottle…AGAIN.

Resist We Much on June 28, 2014 at 8:37 PM

LOLZ!

OmahaConservative on June 28, 2014 at 9:01 PM

U.S. Sen. Tom Harkin says it’s time for the Washington Redskins professional football team to drop its name, which is considered racist by many tribal organizations.

“It has become clear to me over time that the name of the “Washington Redskins” is an affront to Native Americans and it is time to change it,”
==========================================================================

Tom Harkin and the Democrat Party are an Affront to the American
people!!

canopfor on June 28, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Just to let everyone know, I have a new grandson. Born just after noon on Friday 06/27. Goes by the name of Parker. 7lbs & 6ozs. Mama and baby doing fine!

Thanks for all the prayers in her behalf!

lineholder on June 28, 2014 at 7:34 PM

From last night’s QOTD thread…

OmahaConservative on June 28, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Who is he? Did he die, get fired, what?

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM

He is or has been a Conservative radio talk show host who happened to be “black”.

I’m not sure if it was contract negotiations or radio stations not liking the way he tweaked the urban perpetual victim mindset which reduced or ended his nationally syndicated radio program. Bowing to political correctness never seemed to be his thing!

He did write a book IIRC titled “Pick a better country” about patriotism and the greatness of our nation which may have sold well enough that maybe he decided it was time to retire?

viking01 on June 28, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Ho hum.

John the Libertarian on June 28, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Pic of the Day: Looks Like Ratso’s Been Hitting The Bottle…AGAIN.

Resist We Much on June 28, 2014 at 8:37 PM

RWM: Lol, now thats cute, er, cool!:0

canopfor on June 28, 2014 at 9:04 PM

I think that came from a guy who did country humor back in the early days of tv. Can’t remember his name.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Grand Old Opry, but can’t remember his name.

katy the mean old lady on June 28, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Grand Old Opry, but can’t remember his name.

katy the mean old lady on June 28, 2014 at 9:05 PM

I’m thinking Tennessee Ernie Ford. It was a really long time ago.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Just to let everyone know, I have a new grandson. Born just after noon on Friday 06/27. Goes by the name of Parker. 7lbs & 6ozs. Mama and baby doing fine!

Thanks for all the prayers in her behalf!

lineholder on June 28, 2014 at 7:34 PM

From last night’s QOTD thread…

OmahaConservative on June 28, 2014 at 9:03 PM

OC: Thanks for that, grandson’s are a bless’n,..congrats Lineholder.:)

canopfor on June 28, 2014 at 9:06 PM

How dare they name a city after Seattle?!

John the Libertarian on June 28, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Just keep the team logo and call ‘em the Washington Scalpers…that shouldn’t offend anybody.

viking01 on June 28, 2014 at 9:07 PM

I wonder if my high school still uses the t-shirt design?

Fenris on June 28, 2014 at 9:07 PM

“We have many local tribes in my state of Arizona, and they come to me and tell me its offensive, ok? So if its offensive, then why don’t we take that into consideration?” McCain said.

Yeah John, they’re real offended

Shay on June 28, 2014 at 9:08 PM

I still say, considering the taxes, tyranny, and treachery coming from DC, the Washington team should be called the RED COATS

Willys on June 28, 2014 at 9:08 PM

see the f*ing r*dskins been into the firewater again….
if their sense of self worth is so low an object causes all this heartache then maybe we should give then smallp*x blankets to comfort themselves with.
damned tired of these whiners, they get to setup a second government inside this country funded by people not allowed the same freedoms they have and they b*tch about a team name?
f*k them.

dmacleo on June 28, 2014 at 9:08 PM

I’m thinking Tennessee Ernie Ford. It was a really long time ago.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I might be wrong. He was basically a singer.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Nancys Excellent Adventure Immigration Fact-Patterning: Border Tour:

Nancy Pelosi ✔ @NancyPelosi

W/ @RepFilemonVela in Brownsville, TX to tour a detention center & discuss the humanitarian crisis w/ local leaders: pic.twitter.com/cFzLz2a1Lt

https://twitter.com/NancyPelosi/status/482930276620726272/photo/1

canopfor on June 28, 2014 at 9:12 PM

As a White Sock, I’m personally offended by the name of Obama’s favorite baseball team and demand it’s trademark be revoked!

/bluegill

ShainS on June 28, 2014 at 9:00 PM

That, is a pun for the ages.

hawkdriver on June 28, 2014 at 9:14 PM

So sorry to hit’n’run, but have a prayer request, if y’all don’t mind. …
For my dear friend’s hubby, mostly, since we all know she’s presently pretty busy, dancing as if no one but the Lord is watching.
Dear friend had been at another friend’s house, using her pool for ‘aqua therapy’ (trying to keep her body in motion, while undergoing oral treatment for HepC)
She was discovered dead in the pool, yesterday. Have no idea if she’d had anyone with her, at the time.
I have no other info, but DO expect an autopsy.
Please pray for hubby Ken.
Yeah, we could use some, too, but hubby is understandably devastated.
Thanks, y’all.

pambi on June 28, 2014 at 9:15 PM

they just make little tiny baby steps, and they change my world . . . just go in and buy an anniversary card now . . .but it’s all ok.

greencalliope on June 28, 2014 at 9:16 PM

pambi on June 28, 2014 at 9:15 PM

done, and so very sorry :(

dmacleo on June 28, 2014 at 9:17 PM

I think that came from a guy who did country humor back in the early days of tv. Can’t remember his name.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Grand Old Opry, but can’t remember his name.

katy the mean old lady on June 28, 2014 at 9:05 PM

A bit farther back — wasn’t that Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) ?

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Yeah, we could use some, too, but hubby is understandably devastated.
Thanks, y’all.

pambi on June 28, 2014 at 9:15 PM

So sorry, Pambi. She should have had somebody with her. Nobody should swim alone.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:17 PM

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Could y’all be thinking of Porter Waggoner??

bimmcorp on June 28, 2014 at 9:18 PM

pambi on June 28, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Prayers ascending for all of you Pam…

OmahaConservative on June 28, 2014 at 9:18 PM

A bit farther back — wasn’t that Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) ?

Alien on June 28, 2014 at 9:17 PM

What about that guy who did rope tricks and humor. I have problems remembering names these days. It’s an autoimmune thing.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:19 PM

RIP Bobby Womack

RickB on June 28, 2014 at 9:20 PM

pambi on June 28, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Prayers are up….

bimmcorp on June 28, 2014 at 9:20 PM

What about that guy who did rope tricks and humor. I have problems remembering names these days. It’s an autoimmune thing.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Will Rogers …

ShainS on June 28, 2014 at 9:21 PM

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:19 PM

thats what I hate about fibro, makes me feel stupid.
praying for you too,

dmacleo on June 28, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Will Rogers …

ShainS on June 28, 2014 at 9:21 PM

That’s who I was thinking of. OK named a toll road for him. Don’t know if he is the one who said that though. It’s possible nobody knows where it came from.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Nancy’s Excellent Adventure Immigration Fact-Patterning: Border Tour
Part Deux:
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https://twitter.com/JasonWhitely

etweeted by Jason Whitely
Jason Wheeler @jasonwheelertv · 4h

@JasonWhitely joining us on @wfaachannel8 at 6 with huge news that #Dallas County will open shelters for more than 2,000 #ImmigrantChildren

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 6h

MORE: #Dallas @Mike_Rawlings on unaccompanied immigrants kids coming in July: “We’ve gotta make sure these kids are safe, they’re healthy.”

Retweeted by Jason Whitely
Elvira Jacquez @Elvira_Eloise · 7h

@JasonWhitely @rossramsey @JudgeClayJ These are children that are escaping extreme violence. Some compassion please.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 8h

MORE: The incoming immigrant kids to Dallas will not be able to leave the facilities. Feds will provide security.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 8h

The 2,000 unaccompanied immigrant kids coming to Dallas Co at the end of July — from McAllen facilities. Not San Antonio’s Lackland AFB.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 8h

.@JudgeClayJ says @GovernorPerry was briefed this morning on Dallas County’s local effort to soon house 2k unaccompanied immigrant kids.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 8h

MORE: @JudgeClayJ says there will be community mtgs before unaccompanied immigrant kids are put in communities. First mtg this wk, he says.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 8h

.@JudgeClayJ says this isn’t an immigration issue. He says he supports the surge at the border but something must be done w/ kids here now.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 8h

.@JudgeClayJ is going to McAllen this week to see first-hand the growing crisis w/ unaccompanied immigrant children sneaking in to Texas.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 8h

MORE: The unaccompanied immigrant children will be kept in Dallas Co. for 120 days. @JudgeClayJ says it could be extended.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 8h

MORE: The unaccompanied immigrant kids will be held in two facilities. One already id’d in City of Dallas. One maybe in another DalCo city.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 8h

MORE: Unaccompanied immigrant kids will be kept in old schools, old hospitals, large bldgs. W/ cafeterias that Feds can convert to dorms.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 8h

UPDATE: Dallas Co. @JudgeClayJ says almost 2,000 unaccompanied immigrant kids will be brought to Dallas by end of July.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

Dallas was among cities to follow Houston’s lead in 2005 and house hundreds of Hurricane Katrina evacuees.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

MORE: Right now, the unaccompanied immigrant kids are at San Antonio’s Lackland AFB and other scattered fed facilities.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

#DEVELOPING: Homeland Security has been in Dallas looking for locations to house the children. It’s uncertain where or what was chosen.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

MORE: Not all of the children will be coming to Dallas but up to 1,000 could make the trip while federal officials sort out their future.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

More than 50k unaccompanied entered the U.S. this year. Feds predict as many as 90,000 could flood the borders by the end of the year.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

MORE: @JudgeClayJ said he reached out to U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials and offered Dallas County as temporary relief.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

#DEVELOPING: No other city or county has volunteered to help house the growing number of unaccompanied immigrant kids, @JudgeClayJ said.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

#BREAKING: The last time Dallas County had such a large humanitarian outreach like his was after Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

#BREAKING: “We can’t help all, but we an help some,” @JudgeClayJ says about the kids. He hopes to inspire other counties to volunteer.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

#BREAKING: Feds will pay for all housing and expenses for the unaccompanied immigrant children coming to Dallas soon.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

#BREAKING: “We cannot turn our back on the children that are already here,” Dallas Co. @JudgeClayJ says about unaccompanied immigrant kids.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

#BREAKING: @JudgeClayJ says 1,000 unaccompanied immigrant children caught sneaking in to the US to soon get temp relief housing in Dallas.

Jason Whitely @JasonWhitely · 9h

WATCH LIVE: Dallas Co. @JudgeClayJ to make announcement at end of his short speech. Watch: http://www.wfaa.com/livevideo

http://www.wfaa.com/video?id=265040591&sec=553117

canopfor on June 28, 2014 at 9:25 PM

they just make little tiny baby steps, and they change my world . . . just go in and buy an anniversary card now . . .but it’s all ok.

greencalliope on June 28, 2014 at 9:16 PM

o_O

Axe, is that you?

ShainS on June 28, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Will Rogers Quotes.Lot of funny politics stuff.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Will Rogers Quotes.Lot of funny politics stuff.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:27 PM

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:27 PM

<blockquote>Will Rogers Quotes.Lot of funny politics stuff.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:27 PM

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:28 PM

Ok. I give up.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:29 PM

canopfor on June 28, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Thanks for ruining the rest of my weekend canook.

cozmo on June 28, 2014 at 9:29 PM

What next will Planters Peanuts be pressured into changing the name of their Spanish Redskins peanut product. Or perhaps Planters will consider buying the Washington Redskins and all will be OK.

Buckshots on June 28, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Ok. I give up.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:29 PM

LOL.

Here’s one such page: http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Will_Rogers

ShainS on June 28, 2014 at 9:30 PM

McCain said. “One of the most darkest chapters in American history is our relations with the Native Americans.

Maybe, but it’s darker for the Native Americans. The US response to the atrocities of many of the tribes was fairly tame in comparison.

Count to 10 on June 28, 2014 at 9:30 PM

LOL.

Here’s one such page: http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Will_Rogers

ShainS on June 28, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Thanks. Sometimes I can make it work and not others.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:32 PM

It really makes me angry that these illegals are being given things while I can’t afford to get my plumbing fixed or buy a car. Not that I want the gov. to do that for me but I might be able to afford things if the gov. hadn’t screwed up the economy.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Obama has plagiarized the following Will Rogers quote dozens of times!

“Well, all I know is what I read in the papers.” — Will Rogers

ShainS on June 28, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Obama has plagiarized the following Will Rogers quote dozens of times!

“Well, all I know is what I read in the papers.” — Will Rogers

ShainS on June 28, 2014 at 9:35 PM

As have many, many others.

crankyoldlady on June 28, 2014 at 9:36 PM

This is all just so wrong and absolutely the most dangerous act by our government in resent time. That a very very tiny sections of our government is allowed, by influence a very few to change modify or other wise alter social thinking for the advantage of an undisclosed few.

Lets make it simple:

Uncle Ben of Uncle Ben’s rice is to be fired after 80 years on the job building trust and unity in Society.

Aunt Jemima of Aunt Jemima –Pancake Mixes is now to be terminated as a domestic terrorist?

Now Pepsi Cole only has to pay off a few Congressmen to get rid of that drug dealing competition Coke a Cola.

Maybe some of these should be changed BUT it is not up to the Government to do it. Changes have been made through the public sector as it should be.

jpcpt03 on June 28, 2014 at 9:36 PM

Here is one (unverified) claim found on the net:

Started by Harry Vincent Wade (1894-1973) of the Detroit (MI) News, who was then followed by William E. (“Bill”) Vaughan (1915-1977) of the Kansas City Star who wrote in September 1953:

“Next to living on the side of a volcano, the most hazardous existence we can think of is that of a long-tailed cat in a house full of rocking chairs.”

The recording artist and television host Tennessee Ernie Ford (1919-1991) said in 1956, “He was nervous as a long-tailed cat in a roomful of rocking chairs.” The expression is still popular in Texas and other Southern states.

viking01 on June 28, 2014 at 9:36 PM

** Immigration Fraud **

Jun 27, 2014, 08:42 PM GMT 1d
Update: New York Assemblywoman Gabriela Rosa pleads guilty to lying to immigration authorities, will resign – @NY1
Read more on manhattan.ny1.com
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Assemblywoman Pleads Guilty to Marriage Fraud, Resigns
Gabriela Rosa Said She Married a Man to Get U.S. Citizenship

June 27, 2014 6:22 p.m. ET
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The first Dominican woman to be elected to the New York state Assembly pleaded guilty Friday to committing marriage fraud 18 years ago to become a U.S. citizen.

As part of her guilty plea in Manhattan federal court, Gabriela Rosa agreed to immediately step down as representative of the 72nd Assembly District covering Washington Heights, Inwood and Marble Hill. She was elected in 2012.

Ms. Rosa, 47 years old, said in court

that she lied to immigration officials

about her marital status in 1996 and lied on her bankruptcy petition 13 years later about her and her second husband’s incomes.

“I married this person and it was not a real marriage,” Ms. Rosa, 47 years old, said before Judge Denise Cote in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York.

Each count carries a maximum five year sentence. But under the plea agreement, prosecutors agreed to recommend that Judge Cote sentence Ms. Rosa to between a year and 18 months in jail and fine her up to $30,000. Ms. Rosa was released on $100,000 bail.

After court, Ms. Rosa said, “The decision I am making today to step down it is not related to my performance as a member of the assembly.”

“I am responsible for the mistakes that I made and that’s why I’m here today,” she said, adding, “at the same time it’s very hard for immigrants who come from all over the world.”

Under the plea agreement, Ms. Rosa’s citizenship status won’t be affected, according to a law-enforcement official with knowledge of the case.

According to court records, in 1996 Ms. Rosa entered into a “sham marriage,” paying aU.S. citizen $8,000 “for the purpose of obtaining lawful permanent residency status, and later citizenship.”

She then lied on immigration documents by swearing that she entered the marriage “in good faith.” She divorced in 1999 and married someone else.

In addition to the marriage fraud charges, Ms. Rosa pleaded guilty to filing false documents in her bankruptcy case.

In 2009, she filed for bankruptcy claiming more than $30,600 in credit card and personal loan debt, according to her filing.

She said in court that she failed to include her current husband’s income or her ownership in an apartment.

She also failed to report tens of thousands of dollars in political consulting fees she’d been paid for in cash, court records show.

According to her website, Ms. Rosa was born in Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic and came to New York City in 1994.

She worked for the Dominican Republic Consulate, as a legislative assistant to Assemblyman Herman D. Farrell Jr., and as chief of staff for City Councilor Miguel Martinez, who years later went to prison for fraud.

“In 2005,” according to her website biography, “Gabriela became a proud United States Citizen, allowing her to deepen her involvement in government and civics by running for office and opening the door for her to further improve the lives of her neighbors in Northern Manhattan.”

In 2010, Ms. Rosa unsuccessfully ran for the 72nd Assembly District. She won the 2012 election.
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/new-york-assemblywoman-gabriela-rosa-pleads-guilty-to-marriage-fraud-steps-down-from-office-1403907754

canopfor on June 28, 2014 at 9:36 PM

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