Obama on climate change: How about these anti-science conspiracy theorists in Congress, amirite?

posted at 4:41 pm on June 26, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

This week, the White House officially marked the one-year anniversary of the introduction of President Obama’s Climate Action Plan (and his accompanying grandiloquence, ugh), proudly touting the ostensible progress that the Obama administration has made on combating climate change even without Congress’s eager cooperation. It was the same tack Obama took in a speech to the ready-to-donate League of Conservation Voters last night — but there’s nothing like a little shared derision for Republican-obstructionism-cum-climate-change-”denialism” to really get the party started, via Politico:

President Barack Obama is letting his inner Don Rickles run free, mocking climate deniers as the crowd who used to think the moon was made out of cheese or spineless dopes who can’t or won’t listen to science even though the science is all overwhelmingly pointing in one direction. Their heads are in the sand. They are members of the Flat Earth Society.

For the White House it’s about getting the liberal base excited for the midterms. It’s a confidence that climate change has shifted in voters’ minds. It’s a broader play against congressional Republicans as obstructionists.

And for Obama, it’s a good time. Wednesday night, Obama ripped into his opponents in front of a League of Conservation Voters crowd so friendly that some were pumping their arms in the air as he spoke.

“It’s pretty rare that you encounter people who say that the problem of carbon pollution is not a problem,” Obama said. “In most communities and workplaces, they may not know how big a problem it is, they may not know exactly how it works, they may doubt they can do something about it. Generally they don’t just say, ‘No I don’t believe anything scientists say.’ Except, where?” he said, waiting for the more than accommodating crowd to call back, “Congress!” …

“In Congress,” he said. “Folks will tell you climate change is hoax or a fad or a plot. A liberal plot.”

You get the idea; it was a speech all about riling up the wealthy members of the eco-radical progressive base in the audience. With not much in the way of liberal legislation likely to get through Congress throughout the rest of his tenure, climate change is the second-term issue on which President Obama will be trying to hang his legacy-hat, particularly with executive-branch top-down regulations like the major rules for existing power plants that the EPA recently released. He did go on to warn that, “If we’re blithe about saying, ‘This is the crisis of our time,’ but we don’t acknowledge these legitimate concerns [about rising electricity prices] — we’ve got to shape our strategies to address the very real and legitimate concerns of working families” — but that would perhaps hit home a little more sincerely if his administration was actually doing more to address the very real and legitimate concerns of working families and if his major power-plant regulations were going to provide a little more bang for their buck. His administration isn’t, and the regulations won’t; and in the meantime, the progressive tendency to lump everyone who doesn’t automatically take at face value every dire prediction and subsequent big-government policy recommendation the green lobby can come up with into the category of “flat-earth, knuckle-dragging, conspiratorial deniers” is just counterproductive to their own cause.


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The anti-science are these morons who believe in the hoax, now turned into a cult, of man made global warming… As an engineer I rarely find another engineer or a person of scientific background who believes in this hoax of man made global warming… However I find that the the vast majority of man made global warming hoax cultists are people with very little scientific background. It is always easier to fool the morons…

mnjg on June 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM

The science deniers in the room are the Goreacle worshippers like Obama.

We’ve been COOLING since the late 90′s

ConstantineXI on June 26, 2014 at 4:49 PM

There will be some serious climate change once ISIS fires off their first nuke–remember who to thank..

hillsoftx on June 26, 2014 at 4:51 PM

“flat-earth, knuckle-dragging, conspiratorial deniers”

I’m Spartacus!

rhombus on June 26, 2014 at 4:52 PM

What about folks like be? Love science. Love the heat.

Bmore on June 26, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Hey Barry I need a trillion dollars for these magic beans that will change the climate….

//$cience Baby

harlekwin15 on June 26, 2014 at 4:55 PM

I’m Spartacus!

rhombus on June 26, 2014 at 4:52 PM

I’m Spartacus!

dentarthurdent on June 26, 2014 at 4:56 PM

When they can tell me definitively what the median temp of the earth is supposed to be, then I’ll start listening

ConservativePartyNow on June 26, 2014 at 4:57 PM

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 18m

Protip: before telling me how you should manage healthcare, the economy and the weather, show me you can manage you own emails.

Bmore on June 26, 2014 at 4:58 PM

The warmer the climate, the greater the biodiversity that can be supported by the land.

This is why tropical rainforests have the greatest numbers of plants and animals on Earth.

antisense on June 26, 2014 at 4:59 PM

In his governing, has TFG been right about any single policy? I’m curious if there us one out there I missed because, to me, its looks as if everything he does or says is destructive of the economy or world peace (often both, because he is just that capable).

This one is Steyer pandering I assume, since he cannot get a bill through Congress and he’s already done enormous damage to America with his administrative actions.

MTF on June 26, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Hey Barry I need a trillion dollars for these magic beans that will change the climate….

//$cience Baby

harlekwin15 on June 26, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Barry!! Don’t waste your money on that con-artist harlekwin.
I can magically stop the warming for a mere $500 million.
In fact, as a demonstration of my abilities, I give you – the last 17 years. See!! I can do it. Give me the money!!

dentarthurdent on June 26, 2014 at 5:00 PM

You know the best way to get people to see your own point of view is to insult them. Sure worked well for Obama with Putin.

We are being led by a man with the maturity of a ten year old. WHen did his parents abandon King Barky the Incompetent. Got a dollar that is when the emotional maturity of Obama stopped.

jukin3 on June 26, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Generally they don’t just say, ‘No I don’t believe anything scientists say.’ Except, where?” he said, waiting for the more than accommodating crowd to call back, “Congress!” …

Typical Preezy Steezy straw-man ‘argument’. There are NO congress critters who say “I don’t believe anything scientists say.”

I guess you CAN make this stuff up.. and if you’re Preezy Steezy, some will believe it too.

Marcola on June 26, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Barry!! Don’t waste your money on that con-artist harlekwin.
I can magically stop the warming for a mere $500 million.
In fact, as a demonstration of my abilities, I give you – the last 17 years. See!! I can do it. Give me the money!!

dentarthurdent on June 26, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Barry dentarthurdent is a con man can he trickle back 1% of your investment in a trillion bucks worth of magic beans to OFA?

//$cience Baby $cience

harlekwin15 on June 26, 2014 at 5:02 PM

When they tell me what the weather is going to be like this weekend ACCURATELY, I’ll listen!

Kapos on June 26, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Bmore on June 26, 2014 at 4:52 PM

*me

Bmore on June 26, 2014 at 5:02 PM

The warmer the climate, the greater the biodiversity that can be supported by the land.

This is why tropical rainforests have the greatest numbers of plants and animals on Earth.

antisense on June 26, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Yahhhh, but solid ice and snow don’t pollute the air with all that nasty carbon stuff….

dentarthurdent on June 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Once this POSPOTUS leaves the WH, the earth will, truly, begin to heal.

vnvet on June 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM

That said, when Rush says the climate issue is “fake” because it uses computer models.. he is being ignorant.

Computer models determine how insurance rates are set, advertisers like the people who pay his salary determine how much to cough up, businesses forecast earnings, etc. Computer models helped create the technology used to allow him to hear.

That’s his major problem: he might get something right but then just disqualifies himself by saying something that shows his grasp of the issue is very superficial.

If he simply used the greater heat = greater biodiversity, lefties couldn’t argue with that.

antisense on June 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM

“It’s pretty rare that you encounter people who say that the problem of carbon pollution is not a problem,” Obama said.

Actually it’s rarer to find anyone that knows how prevalent carbon is and how essential it is for life on earth.

Thanks to our mind blowingly stupid and corrupt education system we have idiots who agree with the idiot and liar we have as a president.

darwin on June 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Kneel before Zod.

22044 on June 26, 2014 at 5:04 PM

“What’s this?” thought Barack Obama. “I can feel nothing warmer at all! That is terrible. Am I stupid? Am I a flat-earther? Am I a denier? Am I not fit to be President? That would be the most dreadful thing that could happen to me. “Oh, it is very hot!” Obama said aloud. “It has my highest approbation.” And Obama nodded in a contented way, and gazed outside, for he would not say that he felt no Global Warming. The whole entourage that he had with him tried and tried but felt no warming, any more than the rest; but, like Barack Obama they said, “It is so hot!” and David Axlerod counseled him to always say that he felt hot when he was out in public, even hotter the ObamaCare “glitches” and all the IRS and NSA and Benghazi troubles were making him feel. Well, if he had any feelings anyway. “It is warm, hot even!” went from mouth to mouth. On all sides there seemed to be general warming, and Barack Obama gave Al Gore the title of Imperial Master of Global Warming Science.

So Barack Obama went in procession, and every one in the streets said, “How incomparable hot it is! What a hot day it is!” No one would let it be perceived that he could not feel warming, for that would have shown that he was not fit for his office, or was very stupid or a flat-earther or a denier. No day of Barack Obama’s had ever been as hot as this one even with all his oh so many not even a smidgen of corruption scandals going on.

“But I’m freezing my ass off out here!!!” a little child cried out at last. “Just hear what that innocent says!” said the father: and one whispered to another what the child had said. “But it is cold out here!” said the whole people at length. That touched Barack Obama, for it seemed to him that they were right; but the thought within himself was, “I must go through with feeling all the Global Warming. I do not dare to do otherwise” And so he held himself a little higher, which was very difficult for him to do with all the bowing to dictators that he has been doing, and all the things about Benghazi that he has been covering up but may be unable to for that much longer, and all that he has had his IRS and NSA and BLM up to, and his aides held on tighter than ever, and very loudly and very heatedly proclaimed the Global Warming which did not exist at all.

VorDaj on June 26, 2014 at 5:04 PM

“Climate deniers” says Politico. Those Holocaust riffs are always fun, aren’t they?

There’s nothing new here. Obama and his wife tried to conceal their contempt and even hatred of a large segment (maybe well over 50%) of the US population when he needed to get elected, but there’s no longer a need for that pretense, is there?

Drained Brain on June 26, 2014 at 5:04 PM

King Barack trusts that his audience won’t have noticed that NOAA has been caught fudging data from which one could infer that the US has been cooling since the 1930s. Yet, we’re the ones who have our heads in the sand. Nice.

wkh on June 26, 2014 at 5:04 PM

harlekwin15 on June 26, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Dayam – I forgot the kickbacks….

LOL!

dentarthurdent on June 26, 2014 at 5:05 PM

That said, when Rush says the climate issue is “fake” because it uses computer models.. he is being ignorant.
 
antisense on June 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM

 
Wow, that really is ignorant.
 
Can you go ahead and link to that statement for us, please?

rogerb on June 26, 2014 at 5:05 PM

That said, when Rush says the climate issue is “fake” because it uses computer models.. he is being ignorant.

antisense on June 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM

All the models failed. Every prediction the climate fanatics made was based on failed computer models. None of those predictions has come to pass. Rush is correct.

darwin on June 26, 2014 at 5:05 PM

All the models failed. Every prediction the climate fanatics made was based on failed computer models. None of those predictions has come to pass. Rush is correct.

darwin on June 26, 2014 at 5:05 PM

a computer model with an error ratio measured in thousands of percentage points is not a model…

harlekwin15 on June 26, 2014 at 5:07 PM

…mocking climate deniers as the crowd who used to think the moon was made out of cheese or spineless dopes who can’t or won’t listen to science even though the science is all overwhelmingly pointing in one direction.

It SHOULD be pointing the ‘climate scientists’ to go back to the drawing board and come up with another theory besides ‘greenhouse gasses cause the globe to warm up’ because despite their predictions, the globe ISN’T warming up as they predicted, and hasn’t for the last 15 or so years. Their data sets/models for such predictions are obviously INCOMPLETE.

otlset on June 26, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Somebody should turn off Obama’s microphone because the power company emitted CO2 to make it work.

Steve Z on June 26, 2014 at 5:08 PM

His Science Czar is John Holdren. Holdren is known for advocating secret sterilization of the masses through the food and water supply.

He invented a so-called mathematical formula called I=PAT to quantify the population bomb hoax of his and his buddy Ehrlich. He changed the “T” from a negative factor to a positive factor at some point so I think it became I=PA/T. He’s a fraud of a scientist the same way Obama is a fraud of a president. A dangerous fraud.

Buddahpundit on June 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM

We’ve been COOLING since the late 90′s

ConstantineXI on June 26, 2014 at 4:49 PM

We are at cooler temperatures than in the 1930s. As this cult is proved more and more incorrect expect the rhetoric to ratchet up to 11.

As an engineer I rarely find another engineer or a person of scientific background who believes in this hoax of man made global warming…
mnjg on June 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Engineer here too and we have to ACTUALLY make things that work. I’ve designed over 50 machines that use convective, conductive, IR, UV, and x-ray energy transfer. I can definitely tell you that it is the unshielded fusion reactor that is a trillion size of the earth 8 light minutes away that governs the climate.

jukin3 on June 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Obama: F-ing no matter what/period pathological liar as usual. He can hardly open his mouth without lying. The emperor has no clothes and he has even less global warming.

VorDaj on June 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Chicken Little Barky.

The sky is falling, the seas are rising, the planet has a fever.

Fool!

D-fusit on June 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM

However I find that the the vast majority of man made global warming hoax cultists are people with very little scientific background.
mnjg on June 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Except the ones on the government tit that are propagating the whole mess.

WHAT ABOUT BILL NYE!!Eleventy!!!!!!!

The foremost expert on weather, with a degree in WEATHER Mechanical Engineering.

BigWyo on June 26, 2014 at 5:10 PM

There will be some serious climate change once ISIS fires off their first nuke–remember who to thank..

hillsoftx on June 26, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Funny and sad at the same time.

Mark Boabaca on June 26, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Somebody should turn off Obama’s microphone because the power company emitted CO2 to make it work.

Steve Z on June 26, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Plus, any plastics used in the microphone have carbon as well. Obama should sign an executive order banning all plastics …

darwin on June 26, 2014 at 5:11 PM

The enviro-wacos insist without question that “climate change” is a bad thing.

What if it’s a good thing?

MichaelGabriel on June 26, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Except the ones on the government tit that are propagating the whole mess.

WHAT ABOUT BILL NYE!!Eleventy!!!!!!!

The foremost expert on weather, with a degree in WEATHER Mechanical Engineering.

BigWyo on June 26, 2014 at 5:10 PM

an engineer willing to pretend not to understand laws of thermodynamics…

harlekwin15 on June 26, 2014 at 5:11 PM

That said, when Rush says the climate issue is “fake” because it uses computer models.. he is being ignorant.

antisense on June 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Nice strawman there. Models have to make a true prediction or at the very least be able to regressive match results. The spread sheets they use have done neither. This isn’t science it is faith in a cult.

jukin3 on June 26, 2014 at 5:12 PM

LOL, this has just gotten comical. And psychotic.

*These* fools are the *only* ones denying the scientific evidence, willfully believing ‘facts’ that continue to be exposed as simply fraudulent.

Good f*cking grief.

Midas on June 26, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Well, he’s wrong about literally everything else he talks about or does, so I guess he’s due when it comes to global warming? Right?

JeremiahJohnson on June 26, 2014 at 5:13 PM

I can definitely tell you that it is the unshielded fusion reactor that is a trillion size of the earth 8 light minutes away that governs the climate.

jukin3 on June 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Are you referring to the sun???

Speak English winger…..

BigWyo on June 26, 2014 at 5:13 PM

His Science Czar is John Holdren. Holdren is known for advocating secret sterilization of the masses through the food and water supply.

Buddahpundit on June 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Holdren is one of the few leftists that actually said what they’re all thinking. He wants to de-industrialize the west. To do so of course, you have to take the energy away.

darwin on June 26, 2014 at 5:13 PM

President Barack Obama is letting his inner Don Rickles run free, mocking climate deniers as the crowd who used to think the moon was made out of cheese or spineless dopes who can’t or won’t listen to science even though the science is all overwhelmingly pointing in one direction. Their heads are in the sand. They are members of the Flat Earth Society.

Our heads aren’t in the sand, but in the snow. Obama is happy to blame the -3% GDP contraction in the first quarter on snowy weather, then wonders why we don’t believe in Global Warming.

BBBBBBRRRRRRRR!!!

Steve Z on June 26, 2014 at 5:14 PM

That said, when Rush says the climate issue is “fake” because it uses computer models.. he is being ignorant.
antisense on June 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Has Rush actually said “because it uses computer models” or has he talked about how they use the computer models?
Because the fundamental flaw, well besides the fraud, is in how they use the models.
As a lead data analyst / mathematician (where I work) pointed out, ALL computer models are fundamentally wrong. If you were to create a model that is 100% accurate, then you have in fact recreated the real actual system itself that you are studying, and not a model.
So the key is to understand what any given model is capable of doing correctly, and what it can’t do, and evaluating the results based on a proper understanding of where the model is right and where it is wrong.

dentarthurdent on June 26, 2014 at 5:15 PM

an engineer willing to pretend not to understand laws of thermodynamics…

harlekwin15 on June 26, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Yeah, tell me all about it after you get on TV.

BigWyo on June 26, 2014 at 5:15 PM

I can definitely tell you that it is the unshielded fusion reactor that is a trillion size of the earth 8 light minutes away that governs the climate.

jukin3 on June 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Don’t tell our pharaoh that as he thinks he is mightier than the sun.

VorDaj on June 26, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Mmmm … cheese, especially when it’s gov’t cheese!

UnstChem on June 26, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Yeah, tell me all about it after you get on TV.

BigWyo on June 26, 2014 at 5:15 PM

I’ll know I am in hell when I am forced to contemplate what casting couch he inhabited to get his gig…

harlekwin15 on June 26, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Are you referring to the sun???

Speak English winger…..

BigWyo on June 26, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Did you think he was referring to Pharoah Obama?

VorDaj on June 26, 2014 at 5:18 PM

“It’s pretty rare that you encounter people who say that the problem of carbon pollution is not a problem,” Obama said.

That’s true…if you never, ever talk to anyone who has an opinion different from your own. Maybe we should start calling our dear leader “Bubble Boy.”

Athanasius on June 26, 2014 at 5:18 PM

The (bad) comedian in chief……and dumbazz kerry goes to the ME and tells them that globull warming is the biggest threat. They laugh in his face.

VegasRick on June 26, 2014 at 5:21 PM

The anti-science are these morons who believe in the hoax, now turned into a cult, of man made global warming… As an engineer I rarely find another engineer or a person of scientific background who believes in this hoax of man made global warming… However I find that the the vast majority of man made global warming hoax cultists are people with very little scientific background. It is always easier to fool the morons…

mnjg on June 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM

You can meet plenty of scientists who agree with the concept of climate change, it simply requires stepping outside the conservative bubble.

For instance the National Academy of Sciences:
http://nas-sites.org/americasclimatechoices/files/2012/06/19014_cvtx_R1.pdf
You do know who the NAS are, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Academy_of_Sciences#Joint_declaration_on_global_warming

Then there’s the American Association for the Advancement of Science:
http://whatweknow.aaas.org/get-the-facts/

So right there we have both of the biggest most prestigious bodies of scientists in firm agreement that climate change is a big problem (one substantially contributed by human activity).

Then we can move on to groups like the UN IPCC, of course:
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/

Huh, it actually looks like you’d have to work really hard to find a reputable scientist who didn’t concur with AGW…

I guess you don’t meet many of them.

Tlaloc on June 26, 2014 at 5:21 PM

We’ve been COOLING since the late 90′s

ConstantineXI on June 26, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Actually we have been cooling since the 1930s. Steven Goddard just had a nice article on NOAA fudging the numbers to make the 1980s look hot when they weren’t actually. It was in the UK Telegraph paper.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/10916086/The-scandal-of-fiddled-global-warming-data.html

Johnnyreb on June 26, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Remember this little diddy?

anuts on June 26, 2014 at 5:23 PM

1. Total out of touch with facts.

2. Total dumb ass.

3. Lust for the lie to far.

This easy to understand fraud of Al Gore and the Earth First, Greenpeace commies is the lie to far.

This EPA rule’s all must obey on food cost, heat and cooling cost, get to work cost, tax and spend cost ,,, layed down on top of the Obama Care cost/fraud is the lie to far.

CO2 is a plant food.
Climate changes as does the weather.
Man is a piss ant thing in the deal.
Now the sun, it may plot its on way with heat, the solar system it may have its own clock.

Tax and Spend the commie way makes Obama and the other commies have EPA wet dreams.

Down on the farm not so much, down in the getto when its 90 F and 70% humid, the votes for checks people would rather have AC and a caddie to get to the beer store in.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Actually it’s rarer to find anyone that knows how prevalent carbon is and how essential it is for life on earth.

Thanks to our mind blowingly stupid and corrupt education system we have idiots who agree with the idiot and liar we have as a president.

darwin on June 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Water is also necessary to life, but too much and you drown. That’s a way of saying your point was simplistic to the point of inanity. Do better.

Tlaloc on June 26, 2014 at 5:25 PM

ps the 97% lie the commie msm quote as do all the commie Democrats in the Senate and House, been de bunked total.

http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/

plus old Al Gore made it to the down under place and ya,,,

it turned cold as hell for his visit,,,, the Al Gore effect is real seems…..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Ya know, I’m beginning to not like this Obama fellow.

307wolverine on June 26, 2014 at 5:29 PM

The (bad) comedian in chief……and dumbazz kerry goes to the ME and tells them that globull warming is the biggest threat. They laugh in his face.

VegasRick on June 26, 2014 at 5:21 PM

No kiddin’.
When you’ve got terrorists ready to shoot you in the back and carve your head off with a kitchen knife – do you really give a dam what the temperature or sea level is going to be 50 years from now?

In similar fashion, a couple degrees temperature difference or a few inches of sea level change in the distant future are irrelevant to me if I can’t afford to buy food, heat my house, or buy gas to get to work right now.

dentarthurdent on June 26, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Has Rush actually said “because it uses computer models” or has he talked about how they use the computer models?
Because the fundamental flaw, well besides the fraud, is in how they use the models.
As a lead data analyst / mathematician (where I work) pointed out, ALL computer models are fundamentally wrong. If you were to create a model that is 100% accurate, then you have in fact recreated the real actual system itself that you are studying, and not a model.
So the key is to understand what any given model is capable of doing correctly, and what it can’t do, and evaluating the results based on a proper understanding of where the model is right and where it is wrong.

dentarthurdent on June 26, 2014 at 5:15 PM

In this case, the computer model used was a FORTRAN program. If you learned BASIC as a kid, then you can pretty much understand FORTRAN code. When the code was leaked that was used to model Global Warming over the last 100 (or so) years, it was easy to see that no matter what the input data was, all results after the 1950′s were made up. The code was written to ignore the raw data at that point forward and spit out false numbers “showing” temperature rise.

About a decade ago, a Canadian statistician found the code in a web link on a UN webpage and noticed the issue. He contacted the person in charge of the dept who had the code and asked him why it was designed to spit out false data. The next day, the link to the FORTRAN program was gone.

This hoax has been going on for a lot longer than most realize.

UnstChem on June 26, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Given global cooling versus global warming, I will take global warming every single freaking time.

When one of the AGW cultists shows me one single prediction that is independently verifiable, I will give tham a shred of credibility. Even if they do it is still 5000 to 1 incorrect predictions. Preponderance of evidence demonstrates that the AGW cultists are wrong. Not just wrong but proud zealots of being wrong.

For any AGW cultist trolls here that think they know more than the smart, wise, and rational people (AKA “deniers”) here, I have a simple question.

In the dead of winter, when the temperature is freezing but the day is sunny; why is your steering wheel hot to the touch when you go out to lunch?

jukin3 on June 26, 2014 at 5:32 PM

What would be the effect of this Global Warming fraud and coercion, if successful? To make part of the world fools and part hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth. Barack Obama and Al Gore and the Global Warming fraudsters have converted simple changes in the weather into an engine with which to try to enslave mankind to filch ever more power and ever more wealth to themselves. They, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Scientists.

VorDaj on June 26, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Actually it’s rarer to find anyone that knows how prevalent carbon is and how essential it is for life on earth.
 
Thanks to our mind blowingly stupid and corrupt education system we have idiots who agree with the idiot and liar we have as a president.
 
darwin on June 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM

 
Water is also necessary to life, but too much and you drown. That’s a way of saying your point was simplistic to the point of inanity. Do better.
 
Tlaloc on June 26, 2014 at 5:25 PM

 
+1. Now here’s your chance to do better, Tlaloc.
 
Go ahead and tell us mankind’s contribution to total CO2 as a percentage.
 
While you’re here, go ahead and tell us mankind’s contribution as CO2 as a percentage of ALL greenhouse gases including water vapor.

rogerb on June 26, 2014 at 5:33 PM

The Church of Global Warming says the earth is dangerously heating up, but I know that it is not, for I have seen the snow and ice and have felt their bitter cold, and I have more faith in snow and ice than in the Church of Global Warming, and it’s High Priests, Power Filchers and Money Grubbers.

VorDaj on June 26, 2014 at 5:35 PM

UnstChem on June 26, 2014 at 5:30 PM

I learned the latest technology of the time: WATFIV.

jukin3 on June 26, 2014 at 5:35 PM

UnstChem,

“The Nature Trick”

The U.N. third world crooks do not care how big a fraud it is, they just demand checks in the mail from U.S..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2014 at 5:37 PM

http://www.arapahoebasin.com/

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2014 at 5:38 PM

UnstChem on June 26, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Yup.
I started learning and using BASIC and FORTRAN in high school in the late 70s – so I imagine I could figure out what a program is doing. In fact my first civilian job once out of the Air Force (in 1987) was to go into astrodynamic (mostly) FORTRAN programs (also some JOVIAL, Assembly, and others), figure out what how they worked, and fix errors in the original programming.
But I haven’t seen the actual AGW programs, although I have seen some articles about that.

dentarthurdent on June 26, 2014 at 5:41 PM

I guess you don’t meet many of them.

Tlaloc on June 26, 2014 at 5:21 PM

How many of the rely on government funding???

Asking for a friend.

BigWyo on June 26, 2014 at 5:42 PM

“Folks will tell you climate change is hoax or a fad or a plot. A liberal plot.”

Strawman. Nobody says the climate doesn’t change. Even that “97%” scientist “consensus” acknowledges the climate changes. Is it dangerous or mandmade? Meh, not so many agree.

John the Libertarian on June 26, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Tlaloc,

Youjust may be correct, you should go over to Watts up with that blog and set them straight over there.
I am sure you can back up your stuff.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2014 at 5:44 PM

So at what point are they going to have to pay people to attend his events? I’m not sure if it would be classified as comedy or drama?

DDay on June 26, 2014 at 5:45 PM

I guess you don’t meet many of them.

Tlaloc on June 26, 2014 at 5:21 PM

P.S.

You forgot to mention the U.N.

BigWyo on June 26, 2014 at 5:45 PM

While you’re here, go ahead and tell us mankind’s contribution as CO2 as a percentage of ALL greenhouse gases including water vapor.

rogerb on June 26, 2014 at 5:33 PM

You linked to a NASA page that is run by kooks…

Learn how to link winger….

BigWyo on June 26, 2014 at 5:49 PM

How high the sea’s mama,

same as always son…..

How high the sea gonna be mama,,,,

The shore may sink but the sea its sort of steady state seems to some.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM

When one of the AGW cultists shows me one single prediction that is independently verifiable, I will give tham a shred of credibility. Even if they do it is still 5000 to 1 incorrect predictions. Preponderance of evidence demonstrates that the AGW cultists are wrong. Not just wrong but proud zealots of being wrong.
jukin3 on June 26, 2014 at 5:32 PM

My mathematician co-worker (mentioned earlier) had another relevant story about a very successful con-man. He picked an NFL game and then randomly picked 1000 recipients of a letter he wrote up – 500 letters said the Broncos would win the game, 500 letters said the Chiefs would win. The Broncos won. So he picked another game and sent letters to the 500 “winners” of the first set – half saying the Seahawks would win, half saying the 49ers would win. The Seahawks won – so the 250 “winners” got a letter picking another game. The 125 “winners” of that game now have seen this guy correctly pick 100% of the games up to this – so they got letters saying “send me $1000, and I’ll tell you who wins the game next week”.
The AGW frauds are doing exactly the same thing with their computer models.

dentarthurdent on June 26, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Water is also necessary to life, but too much and you drown. That’s a way of saying your point was simplistic to the point of inanity. Do better.

Tlaloc on June 26, 2014 at 5:25 PM

The point was simplistic because the statement I was commenting on was itself simplistic … “carbon pollution”.

darwin on June 26, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Facts don’t mean anything to these people. They might get away with it if they could refrain from making such bizarre, off-the-wall statements.

The worst thing about these people is that they are in the schools frightening children with this crap.

crankyoldlady on June 26, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Ya just got to know how to read tree rings, not as flashy as throwning bones but these tree ring readers sure got their hands in the Goverment tax money……

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Climate change is a leftist agenda that has been in the works for decades.
The Left has chosen it because it transcends borders and thus destroys sovereignty leaving the USA vulnerable to becoming but one pawn in the UN’s one world order.

Remember Clinton pushed this claptrap too (he summoned weathermen to the white house to “educate” them on global warming) and Obama is merely doing the planned bidding of his bosses.

Don L on June 26, 2014 at 5:53 PM

The U.N. third world crooks do not care how big a fraud it is, they just demand checks in the mail from U.S..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Hey now – don’t be dissin’ the Nigerian royal family – I’m expecting several million $$ from them any day now….

dentarthurdent on June 26, 2014 at 5:54 PM

His little immature schtick is old and has become quite boring. He has no idea how foolish he looks talking about the weather as the world and our economy burn because of his failed beliefs and policies. I just wish he would do the right thing and quit.

Ellis on June 26, 2014 at 5:54 PM

It wouldn’t surprise me if Obama failed in every science class he ever took.

sadatoni on June 26, 2014 at 5:54 PM

The point was simplistic because the statement I was commenting on was itself simplistic … “carbon pollution”.

darwin on June 26, 2014 at 5:51 PM

quick question on “carbon pollution”:

Is it possible that mankind is adding carbon to the Earth’s biome that was not already there in high enough volume to matter?

Where are we importing this extraterrestrial carbon from?

harlekwin15 on June 26, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Will someone please demand that Obama show the proof. There is no proof. The temperature record doesn’t support it, nothing supports it, except the phony climate models they have to fudge the data for to come close to proving it.

Please, someone force these people to prove their faux science.

bflat879 on June 26, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Take the commie out of climate change and all you got is wasted red dye.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Then we can move on to groups like the UN IPCC, of course:
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/

Tlaloc on June 26, 2014 at 5:21 PM

You’re a fool. Go back and look at the initial IPCC reports and their historical temperature data then look at all the following reports. Unless you’re a blind fool you can see where they changed past warm periods and made them cooler to justify their hysterical conclusions.

Also, nothing … I repeat nothing, predicted by the climate “experts” has come true. Yet people like you who crow about believing in science continue to believe these charlatans. They’ve been screaming the end of the world for 40 years now and not one single prediction has come to pass.

darwin on June 26, 2014 at 5:57 PM

D-ckhead.

Ward Cleaver on June 26, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Big part of the problem is the RINO’s of the “pork”, kind put out the same bs for re-election money. “Ear Marks” for wind mills.

Any Electrical Eng. can prove up how little of the power the wind mills generate gets anywhere it can be used, most of it gets used up as it pushes it way along the transmission lines.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2014 at 5:59 PM

The group that believes in global warming also believes that 6-7 hard drives just crashing and losing emails at the same time is totally plausible.

The Notorious G.O.P on June 26, 2014 at 5:59 PM

You’re a fool. Go back and look at the initial IPCC reports and their historical temperature data then look at all the following reports. Unless you’re a blind fool you can see where they changed past warm periods and made them cooler to justify their hysterical conclusions.

Also, nothing … I repeat nothing, predicted by the climate “experts” has come true. Yet people like you who crow about believing in science continue to believe these charlatans. They’ve been screaming the end of the world for 40 years now and not one single prediction has come to pass.

darwin on June 26, 2014 at 5:57 PM

I’m old enough to remember when increased carbon was gonna have glaciers back in Ohio by 1995….

I also remember when trees were the key to offsetting mankind’s AGW footprint rather than a leading cause of the doom through their contribution to “peak carbon” through stages of their life cycle.

harlekwin15 on June 26, 2014 at 6:01 PM

While you’re here, go ahead and tell us mankind’s contribution as CO2 as a percentage of ALL greenhouse gases including water vapor.
 
rogerb on June 26, 2014 at 5:33 PM

 
You linked to a NASA page that is run by kooks…
 
Learn how to link winger….
 
BigWyo on June 26, 2014 at 5:49 PM

 
I chose it on purpose. It’s always more comical to watch them get tangled up after linking to something that supports their position.
 
(Frankly I’d guess the thread is dead. Math and what-not.)

rogerb on June 26, 2014 at 6:01 PM

It wouldn’t surprise me if Obama failed in every science class he ever took.

sadatoni on June 26, 2014 at 5:54 PM

He probably didn’t attend any of them.

crankyoldlady on June 26, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Huh, it actually looks like you’d have to work really hard to find a reputable scientist who didn’t concur with AGW…

I guess you don’t meet many of them.

Tlaloc on June 26, 2014 at 5:21 PM

And not one single one of those organizations predicted the current “pause” in Global Warming, not one. 17 years of no warming even using NOAA’s cooked numbers, and not one single model used by any of those Scientific organizations predicted it. They all said global temperatures would continue to increase if CO2 increased. They were all wrong, CO2 increased but temperatures didn’t. I would call that anything but science.

The UN IPCC predicted the Artic would be ice free during the Summer two years ago. Now they are saying possibly by 2058, possibly. Their first prediction was off by 46 years, and they still aren’t sure. That’s more than the total time we have been measuring Artic Sea Ice by satellite.

Johnnyreb on June 26, 2014 at 6:03 PM

The real scientists who know better are afraid to say anything keeping a low profile and hoping the fad will eventually run its course. The problem is they are enabling the indoctrination of the illiterates who will believe anything and can be a force.

crankyoldlady on June 26, 2014 at 6:04 PM

It is all about tax and spend.

Not one bit of it makes any sense.

Gore, Clintons, Kerry, Obama and the rest of these commie thugs have over played a bad hand, all they got ,, pair of two’s and a failed King high.

Their bluff has been called and for the last 10 years they been busy with head fakes to buy time and hope enough dumb as hell people get out of schools and know nothing so’s they can keep the con running.

Time has run out, now they know and will soon seek cover and start up another faud operation.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2014 at 6:04 PM

quick question on “carbon pollution”:

Is it possible that mankind is adding carbon to the Earth’s biome that was not already there in high enough volume to matter?

Where are we importing this extraterrestrial carbon from?

harlekwin15 on June 26, 2014 at 5:54 PM

It’s my understanding from talking to the IPCC’s Extraterrestrial Carbon Pollution (IPCC ECP) section that people are magnets for interstellar carbon. According to them the more people the more carbon is attracted to the earth hence the need for free global abortion and mass sterilization. John Holdren was light years ahead of everyone when he called for sterilants to be added to drinking water.

darwin on June 26, 2014 at 6:05 PM

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