The EPA reports more lost emails as the House Oversight chair threatens contempt of Congress

posted at 7:21 pm on June 25, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

If a certain fecal matter had been the only instance of disrepute revealed from within the ranks of the Environmental Protection Agency today, that would have been more than enough; alas… it wasn’t.

Following last year’s discovery that one high-level EPA employee had defrauded the agency of almost a million dollars over more than a decade while pretending to be working in conjunction with the CIA and doing little real work, among other scandals and sneaky power grabs, House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa requested last November that the EPA turn over all communications with the White House covering the past five years (or else submit a list of those documents over which they believe they have the right to exert executive privilege) in order to investigate whether the White House has ever interfered in the way the EPA responds to Congressional inquiries. The EPA has yet to really comply, and in a hearing this morning, Issa notified the chief administrator that he intends to hold the federal agency in contempt of Congress if it doesn’t pony up in very short order. Via The Hill:

The EPA has not provided Issa with the documents requested in November, nor has it asserted executive privilege over them.

“The subpoena calls for you to deliver the documents. You have not done so,” Issa told EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy at a hearing. “Are you prepared to deliver the documents or provide an item-by-item privilege log of executive privilege?”

McCarthy didn’t respond directly, instead telling Issa that her staff has provided the committee with documents she believes answer its questions.

“I am informing you today that it is my intention to hold the Environmental Protection Agency in contempt,” Issa continued. “I will schedule a business meeting to do so on the first business day available for this committee.”

Even better, and as Jazz reminded us over the weekend, the bureaucrats of the Internal Revenue Service are just latecomer copycats compared to the “the dog ate my hard drive/emails” trailblazers over at the EPA. In the same hearing this morning, the EPA again pulled out that handy-dandy excuse in regard to a particular batch of emails to which the House Oversight Committee is seeking access. Via Politico:

The environmental agency is having trouble locating emails belonging to a former agency employee and pulling information from his crashed hard drive, House members revealed Wednesday while questioning Administrator Gina McCarthy at a hearing on complaints of mismanagement.

“What is it with bureaucrats and public employees … the hard drives crash?” asked Rep. Kerry Bentivolio (R-Mich.).

He and others on the Oversight and Government Reform Committee questioned McCarthy about missing information related to the committee’s investigation into the potential environmental impact of a proposed gold and copper mine in the Bristol Bay watershed in Alaska.

McCarthy kept insisting throughout the hearing that “we’re having trouble getting information off of it and are trying different ways” and that the former employee in question “was a fish biologist, not a decision maker” — and hey, you know what? That could very well be true. The question at this late hour of rather diminished Obama-administration credibility, however, is of course: Why on earth would we believe that?


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No words.
(Except those)
SMH.

pambi on June 25, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Enough with the threats. DO IT!

vityas on June 25, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Boy there’s a lot of hungry dogs eating homework…

sandee on June 25, 2014 at 7:25 PM

The emails were destroyed when an employee hired by The One s..t on all the hard drives.

vnvet on June 25, 2014 at 7:28 PM

“What is it with bureaucrats and public employees … the hard drives crash?”

Yeah, and just when you REALLY need to get something off them!

WHAT A COINCIDENCE!

GarandFan on June 25, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Can we begin impeachment proceedings now?

Steve Eggleston on June 25, 2014 at 7:28 PM

“fish biologist”. wonder what jarrets code name is. mama mao maybe.

t8stlikchkn on June 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Boy there’s a lot of hungry dogs eating homework…

sandee on June 25, 2014 at 7:25 PM

With magnetic personalities.

Steve Eggleston on June 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Just come right out and call them liars. Make them prove otherwise.

HiJack on June 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Oh boy, watch out! Issa’s getting close to doing something. And this time he might actually, sort of, mean it.

Flange on June 25, 2014 at 7:30 PM

McCarthy didn’t respond directly

Geez there are a lot of scoundrels named “McCarthy” lately soiling a once great name.

Buddahpundit on June 25, 2014 at 7:30 PM

https://twitter.com/DarrellIssa

Darrell Issa @DarrellIssa · 1h

Will be on Fox tonight with @megynkelly at 9:30 EDT to discuss #IRStargeting & EPA investigations.

canopfor on June 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM

IRS corruption vs EPA corruption, is there any feral bureaucracy in the Obamanation Administration that isn’t corrupt? So what if Issa holds them in contempt of Congress, he held Lois Lerner and Erick Holder in Contempt of Congress, a crime which carries a minimum of 1 month in jail and up to 1 year, but why hasn’t Lerner or Holder gone to jail?

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 7:33 PM

I feel like I’ve heard this one before…

The Smiths – Stop Me If You Think You’ve Heard This One Before

Seems appropriate…LOL

Why on earth would we believe that?

You’re obviously a racist and a thought criminal. You need to be reported and sent to the nearest FEMA internment camp for re-education through the Weather Underground’s curriculum.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 25, 2014 at 7:33 PM

The friggin EPA is all about putting a noose around our economy to stop non-existent global warming. Steven Goddard has recently uncovered extensive data manipulation of the temperature record by the Chicken Little Brigade, suggesting that it was hotter during the 1930s than now, which Drudge highlighted. http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/25/cleaning-up-the-temperature-mess/

My comment:

Remember, the one thing that the warmist deceivers can’t mess with are the records for high and low temperatures.

And I’ve made the point before that as far as the world records for the hottest and coldest day, if we really had just gone through a century hockey stick warming, it shouldn’t be that the record for the hottest day, worldwide, was set in 1913, and the coldest day: 1983. Really, as the supposed runaway warming took off, the record for the coldest day should have been left back in the dust, set near the beginning of the 20th century. And the hottest day, that should have been set just very recently and most likely in the last decade, in “the hottest decade on record.” It’s azz backwards: the coldest 1983, the hottest 1913.

Well, it gets worse, much worse, for the warmists. Yesterday I was thinking of all the other records for the hottest and coldest days (countries, states, continents), thinking that I bet these other records will likely confirm that we really haven’t been warming, and indeed we’ve been… gasp … cooling. My comment on another thread:

Holy jiminy cricket I’ve found something! I looked at the seven continents, and sure enough, lo and behold: 6 out of the 7 continents set their record for their coldest day *after* their record for the hottest day. I used this source (which used data from the World Meteorological Association).

Wait, don’t tell me, no, unbelievable, um, geez, that can’t be the case, we’ve supposedly been going through a century of crazy hockey stick warming, and this? And if anyone thinks the 6 out 7 continents thing, as well as the worldwide record, is a fluke, guess what is really going to blow your socks off? I also clicked over to the WMA site, and I find the Northern Hemisphere set its record for the coldest day AFTER the record for the hottest day. And, the Southern Hemisphere set its record for the coldest day AFTER the record for the hottest day. And, the Western Hemisphere set its record for the coldest day AFTER the record for the hottest day. And, the Eastern Hemisphere set its record for the coldest day AFTER the record for the hottest day. Every single possible hemisphere set its cold record after its hot record. 6 out of 7 continents set its cold record after its hot record. Same with the world record. Something doesn’t add up, as far as the Chicken Little Brigade and their temperature “data.” Global warming my rear. This is a total charade. A century of runaway out of control hockey stick warming? Nope.

Steven Goddard has found evidence of wholesale data manipulation. And you have trolls tying to quibble with details of Steven Goddard’s work, but the one thing that the data manipulators can’t manipulate flat out contradicts all of their manipulations. Steven Goddard is on to something.

anotherJoe on June 25, 2014 at 7:33 PM

I’ve always been giving Issa & gang the benefit of the doubts with these processes, because he & they know FAR more than I about how best to proceed.
Consider the simple ‘can’t speak about (blah)’, now, since under investigation’ cr@p.
I’m still reserving judgement, and criticism.
This IS an unprecedented amount of malarkey to handle, and hopefully it can be done PROPERLY, to our BEST advantage, not just according to what WE want to see happen, WHEN.
Says one who is just as frustrated and PO’d as the next guy.

pambi on June 25, 2014 at 7:37 PM

You know why the GDP fell 2.9% in the first quarter? It was because of all the crashed hard drives.

PackerBronco on June 25, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,…………..:

GOP Oversight @GOPoversight · 2h

#EPA says it can’t find some records on Alaska mine via @AP http://bigstory.ap.org/article/epa-says-it-cant-find-some-records-alaska-mine
===============

EPA says it can’t find some records on Alaska mine
By DINA CAPPIELLO
— Jun. 25, 2014 5:40 PM EDT
***************************

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/epa-says-it-cant-find-some-records-alaska-mine

canopfor on June 25, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Until someone goes to jail, Obama’s goons are going to keep doing this.

Iblis on June 25, 2014 at 7:42 PM

A public hanging is not good enough…

When the whole house of cards comes crashing down…these bastards will be lining up for one way international flights out of the USA to escape the wrath of the people…

PatriotRider on June 25, 2014 at 7:45 PM

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/epa-says-it-cant-find-some-records-alaska-mine

canopfor on June 25, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Shorter version:

EPA: “You can trust us. We’re not like all the others…”

bofh on June 25, 2014 at 7:45 PM

Congress has to cut off funds to these rouge agencies. If it means a government shutdown so be it. They have to re-establish the rule of law.

Iblis on June 25, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Not Contempt of Congress..! That is really bad.

d1carter on June 25, 2014 at 7:46 PM

I want the checks and balance part of my government back.

Is that really so big of a deal? To expect these agencies to report to Congress?

Turley says they are a fourth branch of government.

That needs to end. They need to report and take orders from Congress. Not the executive branch.

The house is closest to the people. Make the EPA answer to the House for every decision.

petunia on June 25, 2014 at 7:47 PM

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen contributed more than $85,000 to Democratic candidates and committees, MRCTV research has discovered – with a $5,000 donation to President Obama in 2012 and $19,000 to the Democratic National Committee from 1988 to 2008.

This may explain the fawning “thank yous” Koskinen received for his public service from many Democrats last night on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

“You know when you’ve got a person who’s given what you’ve given and been brought into difficult circumstances…” said Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) to Koskinen during last night’s hearing. “You know, at my age, I began to stop and think about my own mortality, and think about my reputation. I want to thank you for being who you are. I want to thank you for giving a damn and caring about our country.”

http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/irs-commish-gave-over-85000-to-democrats/?cat_orig=politics

davidk on June 25, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Speaking of the EPA,..er,..Globaly Warmly:

Obama climate change plan
8m
President Obama, at League of Conservation Voters event, says his policies have increased production and use of wind and solar energy, and put cars and trucks on path to double mileage – @markknoller
============================================================

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 6m

POTUS tells conservation group that improving the environment is “a generational project” and “sometimes it’s easy to get discouraged.”

Replied to 0 times

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 9m

Pres Obama says his policies have increased production and use of wind and solar energy and put cars/trucks on path to double mileage.

Replied to 0 times

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 12m

In speech to League of Conservation Voters, Pres Obama ridicules those in Congress

who dismiss Climate Change as a “hoax” or “liberal plot.”

https://twitter.com/markknoller

canopfor on June 25, 2014 at 7:51 PM

I want the checks and balance part of my government back.

Is that really so big of a deal? To expect these agencies to report to Congress?

Turley says they are a fourth branch of government.

That needs to end. They need to report and take orders from Congress. Not the executive branch.

The house is closest to the people. Make the EPA answer to the House for every decision.

petunia on June 25, 2014 at 7:47 PM

They need to be abolished.

davidk on June 25, 2014 at 7:51 PM

davidk on June 25, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Sumpin’ just sorta rose up into my throat, reading that.
Argh.

pambi on June 25, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Issa notified the chief administrator that he intends to hold the federal agency in contempt of Congress if it doesn’t pony up in very short order

Ya, Ya, Ya…… thats another statement Ive heard before with little or no consequence

Koa on June 25, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Is that really so big of a deal? To expect these agencies to report to Congress?

Turley says they are a fourth branch of government.

That needs to end. They need to report and take orders from Congress. Not the executive branch.

The house is closest to the people. Make the EPA answer to the House for every decision.

petunia on June 25, 2014 at 7:47 PM

The agencies are the executive branch. And, yes the executive branch is supposed to be answerable to Congressional committee’s. Congress can cut off their funding anytime they want to.

kcewa on June 25, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Fake names, Caribou Coffee, lost emails and Carol Browner asking for no notes, what’s not transparent?Lois had a Blackberry,got back up?

tim c on June 25, 2014 at 7:57 PM

said Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) to Koskinen during last night’s hearing. “You know, at my age, I began to stop and think about my own mortality”

With all due respect Congressman, your not the only one thinking about your mortality.

kcewa on June 25, 2014 at 7:59 PM

Not Contempt of Congress..! That is really bad.

d1carter on June 25, 2014 at 7:46 PM

They need to go back to placing these people in the House jail for contemt until compliance is secured.

Revenant on June 25, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Ok, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and I in encourage any input from real IT people…

90% of hard drive ‘Crashes’ are nothing more than operating system failures.

The hard drive doesn’t catch fire or anything..your operating system files or the boot section gets corrupted and the computer will not start. All the files are still there.

You take a ‘crashed’ hard drive, throw it into a functioning computer, it will show up as a separate drive with all of the files intact…files that you can recover simply by doing a copy and paste to the working computer’s hard drive (or a network drive).

I’ve performed this operation many times at my work and also on my personal computers..

The idea that all of this crap was lost because of ‘the hard drive crashed’ is pure bull$hit.

BigWyo on June 25, 2014 at 8:00 PM

I want to see evidence of a crash. An actual crash, not the catchall term people throw around for every type of error or system failure.

Did these drives suffer physical crashes?

Or are they talking about logical crashes – software failures? Perhaps like the SEC clowns, too much porn on the PCs? Was it malware or other viruses. Do these IRS and EPA hacks spend all day surfing the web?

What was this “crash”? What were the causes of these “crashes”? (pretend we don’t already know the answer). Are government IT people as useless and unskilled as other government employees?

No one would get away with telling the IRS or EPA that WE couldn’t provide info that THEY wanted because of a computer crash.

reaganaut on June 25, 2014 at 8:01 PM

So…when does the Constitution end up being “lost” as well?

If it weren’t for all those annoying paper copies out there…still, most nowadays wouldn’t believe anything unless it was on a website somewhere, and one with a .gov or .edu address would be extremely credible…hmmmmmmm.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 25, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Clearly all the bureaucrats are surfing questionable websites at work and forwarding all the virus laden links to each other instead of actually WORKING.

txmomof6 on June 25, 2014 at 8:03 PM

and that the former employee in question “was a fish biologist, not a decision maker”

So that’s why he crashed his computer and destroyed the hard drive ? because was a fish biologist ?

burrata on June 25, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Not Contempt of Congress..! That is really bad.

d1carter on June 25, 2014 at 7:46 PM

I bet they be vewy scared of getting in bad twubbow.

arnold ziffel on June 25, 2014 at 8:08 PM

The EPA should have said that a bunch of their employees are with OWS and they crapped on the hard drives. It would be more believable.

HotAirian on June 25, 2014 at 8:10 PM

I want to see evidence of a crash. An actual crash, not the catchall term people throw around for every type of error or system failure.

reaganaut on June 25, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Like did they stall and spin crash, a hit and split, fender bender or blood in the office computer parts strewn all over? No survivors.

arnold ziffel on June 25, 2014 at 8:10 PM

The idea that all of this crap was lost because of ‘the hard drive crashed’ is pure bull$hit.

Exactly. Even a physical crash would have to be very severe to have no data able to be recovered. Like, purposely severe.

Why are no reporters out there asking questions? How often do the IRS/EPA offices receive new hardware? I’m sure it is quite often, since they don’t really operate with responsible budgets. You can rule out overuse of hard drives. Were the they same model drives? Was it a bad batch? Was it software malfunction?

How incompetent is the IT team that tried and failed to recover anything from these drives? Was anyone held accountable? The hardware vendors? Software vendors? Personnel?

Of course all this is moot because those emails should have all been stored on multiple servers at multiple locations . Did the servers crash as well? Was any other important data lost, or was it just emails showing how Ogabe’s admin broke the law?

reaganaut on June 25, 2014 at 8:10 PM

The EPA has been under Court Order to remove and permanently store every hard drive from every machine removed from service since the Carol Browner fiasco at the end of the Clinton Administration.

As Carol Browner was leaving her position as the Administrator of the EPA, there was a FOIA from Judicial Watch (IIRC) requiring the Agency to produce all email and records of Browner’s meetings with various NGOs who were, allegedly, inappropriately involved in crafting regulations.

Instead of preserving her records, as required by a Court Order, Carol Browner instead ordered the IT Department to reformat her hard drive and the hard drive of her primary lieutenant. She claimed, implausibly, that she was just trying to leave a fresh computer for her Republican successor.

The Court was not amused, and since then the EPA has had to remove and store every single hard drive from every computer retired from the Agency. This “crashed” hard drive should be sitting on a shelf somewhere in EPA HQ, along with about 100,000 others.

If the Agency is unable to produce this hard drive, while all the other hard drives have been preserved, it will be further evidence that the Administration is destroying evidence to avoid complying with Congressional subpoenas.

Haiku Guy on June 25, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Is it just me or has the EPA (Environmental Pooh Agency) been doing nothing today but leaving one pile of cr@p after another after another…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 25, 2014 at 8:15 PM

This is the government that buys $50 hammers, $500 coffee pots, and $5000 toilets. I’m willing to accept they can’t buy a simple HD that won’t crash and burn. In fact, crash and burn was probably written into the original spec…

Kraken on June 25, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Like did they stall and spin crash, a hit and split, fender bender or blood in the office computer parts strewn all over? No survivors.

An actual hard drive crash is when the head comes into contact with the surface of the magnetic disk(s) inside the hard drive.

reaganaut on June 25, 2014 at 8:19 PM

An actual hard drive crash is when the head comes into contact with the surface of the magnetic disk(s) inside the hard drive.

reaganaut on June 25, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Oh, the humanity

Kraken on June 25, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Threatens contempt? It’s well past time for the threats to end and action be taken.

sadatoni on June 25, 2014 at 8:25 PM

An actual hard drive crash is when the head comes into contact with the surface of the magnetic disk(s) inside the hard drive.

reaganaut on June 25, 2014 at 8:19 PM

They’re just using the term “Crash” because JQ public will go “Yeah, that totally happened to me one time, my compewter was hosed”.

And then they take it to Geek Squad and get bilked out of $200 to get their porn stash recovered.

HDI (head to disk interference) is a rare thing. I work for a company that has around 80 computers and in 15 years I’ve seen many Windows failures but have only seen one actual ‘hard drive failure’ where the damn thing wouldn’t even spin up…

And to believe that Lois Lerner’s, as well as the others in the IRS thing, all lost their emails is horse$hit.

And now we have the EPA saying the same thing.

Kiss my a$$.

BigWyo on June 25, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Clearly all the bureaucrats are surfing questionable websites at work and forwarding all the virus laden links to each other instead of actually WORKING.

txmomof6 on June 25, 2014 at 8:03 PM

The bureaucrats…mmmmaybe…wouldn’t be surprised.

The underlings, on the other hand, work damn hard. Just try to “forget” to add in that 1099 when you file and see what happens.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 25, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Threatens contempt? It’s well past time for the threats to end and action be taken.

sadatoni on June 25, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Whoa….ease up there cowboy, that would require some sort of accountability or something

Koa on June 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM

This is the government that buys $50 hammers, $500 coffee pots, and $5000 toilets. I’m willing to accept they can’t buy a simple HD that won’t crash and burn. In fact, crash and burn was probably written into the original spec…
Kraken on June 25, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Reminds me of a song

Newtie and the Beauty on June 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Just slash their budgets. A lot.
Like, oh: 50%?

Beating an individual, a business, or an Agency with the Money Stick is the most successful, tried & true method by which to attract their attention and often increase their IQ.

Worth a try. Better than another ignored subpoena and rudderless Hearing.

orangemtl on June 25, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Here’s a guess: the guy was colluding with anti-Pebble people in the state, and got rid of the evidence.

J.B. Say on June 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM

The Obama Administration is offering abundant evidence in support of smaller government. The smaller government is, the fewer agencies there are, the less Congress has to oversee and the easier it is for them to ferret out the corruption.

hopeful on June 25, 2014 at 8:48 PM

The question at this late hour of rather diminished Obama-administration credibility, however, is of course: Why on earth would we believe that?

Why would we believe anything these profligate liars have to say? We don’t, and they know we don’t. Sadly, they probably want us to know that they are lying, since they think we are powerless to do anything about it. Hence they glibly lie to our faces, whilst smirking all the while.

The time comes when God will wipe those smirks right off their faces.

ariel on June 25, 2014 at 8:54 PM

The time comes when God will wipe those smirks right off their faces.

ariel on June 25, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Hopefully the law will wipe some of them off as well.

J.B. Say on June 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Seriously the same excuse as the IRS? Do they have no imagination at all??

sorrowen on June 25, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Until people are hauled off in leg irons absolutely nothing will be accomplished. That idiot IRS commish pretty said screw you, so what, whatta gonna do to me. Lets face john q public is convicted before he can defend himself. These beaurocrats give congress the finger and tell them to get lost. Bring out the guillotines.

jaywemm on June 25, 2014 at 9:13 PM

“What is it with bureaucrats and public employees … the hard drives crash?” asked Rep. Kerry Bentivolio (R-Mich.).
….here’s a guess–they visit a lot of porn sites at work that are loaded with computer viruses.

WhatsAMattaU on June 25, 2014 at 9:44 PM

I probably haven’t had a hard drive crash in close to twenty years.

I’ve had them wear out (that is giving increasing symptoms of wear and tear) with sufficient time to back up then replace them.

The EPA lies are as bad as the IRS lies as bad as the CINC lies as bad as the DOJ lies…

viking01 on June 25, 2014 at 9:49 PM

s/b I probably haven’t had a hard drive crash in close to twenty years….

…and that is with dozens upon dozens of systems.

viking01 on June 25, 2014 at 9:50 PM

Let me guess, they ended a back-up contract with Sonasoft the week after congress asked for records, right?

ROCnPhilly on June 25, 2014 at 9:50 PM

“Yeah, go ahead and cite me for Contempt of Congress. You think Eric Holder’s going to arrest me or something? I’ll just put the citation on my mantle, right next to my MVP trophy from High School.”

Socratease on June 25, 2014 at 9:52 PM

The EPA crook they’re after is missing…in…New Zeeland, with a lawyer.

Schadenfreude on June 25, 2014 at 10:22 PM

McCarthy kept insisting throughout the hearing that “we’re having trouble getting information off of it and are trying different ways” and that the former employee in question “was a fish biologist, not a decision maker”

Then what’s the problem with turning over the emails??

Not that a single one of these lawless POS ‘public servants’ gives a hoot in Hell. They know this rogue administration isn’t going to do anything to anyone.

ghostwalker1 on June 25, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Bottom Line – It is so bad what the content of those missing emails contained, they couldn’t afford to let the public get a hold of them. The act of destroying them would prove less damaging than what was in them.

Nat George on June 26, 2014 at 3:41 PM