Poll: Huge majorities think the IRS destroyed their own email records

posted at 9:41 am on June 25, 2014 by Noah Rothman

The latest Fox News poll, conducted by Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from June 21 to 23, is chock–full of bad news for President Barack Obama. His job approval rating is pegged at an anemic 41 percent. On fears about Iraq, only 32 percent said they approved of the president’s handling of foreign affairs – a historic low for this poll. Only 31 percent say they believe that Obama only learns of crises like the Department of Justice’s monitoring of journalists or the scandal surrounding the Veterans Affairs Democrats from the news. Even a plurality of Democratic respondents expressed skepticism at this regularly appealed to excuse for lack of foreknowledge from the White House.

An equally unimpressive 38 percent approve of Obama’s management of the economy and 41 percent approve of his performance on health care. But the most disturbing news in this latest poll from a Democratic perspective came when respondents were asked about the IRS’s targeting scandal.

When asked if survey respondents thought “Congress should continue to investigate the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of hundreds of conservative and tea party groups until someone is held accountable,” 74 percent agreed. That figure includes 86 percent of self-described Republicans, 65 percent of independents, and 66 percent of self-identified Democrats.

There is no gender gap; 74 percent of men and 75 percent of women agreed. There is no race gap; 76 percent of whites and 70 percent of blacks agree. Between 73 and 76 percent of every age group thinks someone should be held accountable for the targeting allegations. Even 67 percent of self-identified liberals want to see someone held responsible for this scandal.

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Why such uniformity of opinion on the matter? It might have something to do with the fact that no one believes the IRS accidently lost their email records as the result of a cascading computer failure which the agency remedied by simply throwing the affected hardware away. When asked if they “believe the IRS that the emails were destroyed accidentally” or “they were destroyed deliberately,” 76 percent of survey respondents said the latter.

Only 11 percent of independents, 5 percent of Republicans, and 20 percent of Democrats managed to convince themselves that the IRS’s story was possible, if not likely. In the responses to this question, too, there are few gaps across demography or ideology. What’s most interesting here is the consistency of opinion across age groups. 82 percent of those under age 35, most of whom have grown up with email all their lives, do not believe the IRS’s emails disappeared. They are joined by 77 percent of those age 35-54, 71 percent of those age 55+, and 71 percent of those age 65+.

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In light of these numbers, the obsequious nature in which House Democrats have slavishly pandered to IRS officials testifying before congressional investigators seems like an ill-conceived course of action. No one, not even their constituents, believe that the IRS is being subjected to a partisan investigation. Democrats would be better served by taking this investigation as seriously as the American public.


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not a smidgen.

Mr. Bingley on June 25, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Poll: Huge majorities think the IRS destroyed their own email records

Plus.

Growing majority thinks the GOP is doing itself in.

Bmore on June 25, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Democrats would be better served by taking this investigation as seriously as the American public.

Not happening, Noah. The reason they refuse to treat this seriously is because they’re smack dab in the middle of it.

Doughboy on June 25, 2014 at 9:47 AM

No links to actual poll?

BigGator5 on June 25, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Of course the public does.

Emails destroyed and the Democrats say “you know, there’s not one piece of evidence that….” and the Republicans disagree with them with all the vigor of elderly ladies arguing over a dress pattern in an assisted living facility. Charles and George were so polite not to interrupt Juan.

Marcus on June 25, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Not a smidgen of integrity.

Closet Optimist on June 25, 2014 at 9:50 AM

The latest Fox News poll, conducted by Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from June 21 to 23, is chock–full of bad news for President Barack Obama.

Bad news for Obama? It’s obvious that he doesn’t care. He feels secure in the fact that neither he nor anyone in his administration will ever be held accountable for any wrongdoing. He’s right and the fact that he’s gotten away with all that he has just reinforces this belief. The blatant support and complicity of the media and the general apathy of the most Americans just adds to his security. If this man were not black he would already have been impeached and convicted no matter what his party affiliation.

Oldnuke on June 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM

You would have to be even stupider than the average imbecilic Democrat to think that the IRS and the Whitehouse did not intentionally destroy those emails. More than a smidgen of corruption far a long shot.

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 9:52 AM

The Dems can easily say that these are the same morons that voted Obama into office TWICE, so what do they know about anything??

Deano1952 on June 25, 2014 at 9:52 AM

No links to actual poll?
BigGator5 on June 25, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Wondered same thing.

bluegill on June 25, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Wow –> 63% of Dems Say IRS Deliberately Destroyed Emails

http://freebeacon.com/politics/63-of-dems-say-irs-deliberately-destroyed-emails/

idesign on June 25, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Smidgeon droppings on the relevant statutes.

Flange on June 25, 2014 at 9:53 AM

mmm this is one of those polls that the pols will ignore. But you know the one that states 3% of Americans consider immigration the most pressing matter of the day will be the one they pay attention to.

HumpBot Salvation on June 25, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Not happening, Noah. The reason they refuse to treat this seriously is because they’re smack dab in the middle of it.

Doughboy on June 25, 2014 at 9:47 AM

This is pretty much the only conclusion one can draw. Giving wet kisses to the IRS – the least liked government agency out there – doesn’t make sense otherwise.

chuckfinlay on June 25, 2014 at 9:55 AM

It was just a couple rogue agents in Cincinnati….

Not a smidgen of corruption…..

jjjdad on June 25, 2014 at 9:56 AM

Huge majorities? I think it’s way too low.

Akzed on June 25, 2014 at 9:57 AM

What stuns me is that the elected Democrats don’t understand that at some point in time, these tactics could be used against THEM. The rank and file understands it, but party apparatchiks either don’t know or don’t care….

LL

Lady Logician on June 25, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Whatever. Everyone will still vote for the same representatives who’ll keep the IRS and tax system exactly the same way it is.

Dongemaharu on June 25, 2014 at 9:59 AM

You all need to understand one thing, and make sure this sinks in REAL good.

Any and ALL “investigations” going on in the House mean absolutely NOTHING.

Holder will NOT, under ANY circumstances, appoint a special prosecutor, or initiate ANY prosecutions ON ANY of the scandals. He will NEVER do it.

So, unless America elects a President in 2016 that actually gives a damn about any of the scandals, there will be NO prosecutions. There will be NO jail time. There won’t even be any FIRINGS.

In fact, all ANY of the investigations will do, is serve to highlight the individuals Obama and his cronies will PROMOTE.

Pointless, ALL OF IT.

Meople on June 25, 2014 at 10:00 AM

Smidgeon droppings on the relevant statutes.

Flange on June 25, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Heh!

Vince on June 25, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Yep, and lefties are burning the phone lines to their reps demanding that the investigation of the IRS include a special prosecutor.

Bishop on June 25, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Doesn’t matter since Republicans are on the same side as the IRS.

How much $$$ did the Republicans burn to make sure a conservative didn’t win in MS?

Republicans see what the IRS did as a good thing.

tetriskid on June 25, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Democrats would be better served by taking this investigation as seriously as the American public.

Why should they worry? People like Cummings and Rangel got elected by counting on the STUPIDITY of their constituents.

GarandFan on June 25, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Republicans disagree with them with all the vigor of elderly ladies arguing over a dress pattern in an assisted living facility.

Sad. And true.

The level of corruption—or, more precisely, the level of tolerance for corruption among elected officials and bureaucrats, and more importantly the electorate, is breathtaking. And exceptionally dangerous.
Citizens of the Soviet Union mutely accepted corrupt officialdom as a fact of nature. So, too the Chinese. And most people in most South American and African nations.

We have never had unsullied governance. Nor an absence of corruption. But the level at which it exists, and the foot-dragging reluctance of those on both sides of the aisle to identify it as such and pursue it in an objective fashion, says more about the foot dragging ‘elderly ladies’ on both sides of the aisle than it does about the lying, cheating bureaucrats.

Welcome to the decline of our nation.
Please fasten your seat belts, ladies and gentlemen; we anticipate considerable turbulence ahead.

orangemtl on June 25, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Well… duh!

Nineball on June 25, 2014 at 10:09 AM

It’s obvious the IRS is guilty of destroying documents from the critical period. The left is making the claim that so long as there is no direct tie to the White House then there is no scandal in what the IRS did.

I would think the administration would be concerned about the fact that the IRS did what it did if they were actually innocent.

Happy Nomad on June 25, 2014 at 10:09 AM

The GOPe is ALL FOR the IRS Targeting. They have no problems with it at all. People like Boehner, McConnell, Grahamnesty, Rove, COCKRAN, McLame and the rest, are ALL FOR the IRS Targeting Conservatives and the Tea Party.

Meople on June 25, 2014 at 10:10 AM

it doesn’t add up.
first the irs would have had to have been violating all archive regulations for years.
IG would have seen that at some point and we know they had contracts for archival software.
second the tape rotation I think is a red herring, many places use a pool of tapes that get rotated as they are NOT the final backup location.
third someone with both archive AND log access would have needed to delete the info from the backups. And I find it hard to believe any one individual has that many rights (server/group policy permissions) unless there was a known back door access.
fourth IRS has provided emails to people (not related to this investigation) in the past.

The emails are stored somewheres, but by stressing the hard drive crash and tape rotation they are able to obfuscate and people are buying it.

dmacleo on June 25, 2014 at 10:11 AM

It’s a good thing that Americans are at least paying attention to this IRS story. The more that pay attention, the more that get the message:

“American people, your government can do anything it wants to you and you can’t do a thing about it. Obey and you probably won’t get hurt.”

ROCnPhilly on June 25, 2014 at 10:11 AM

is chock–full of bad news for President Barack Obama. His job approval rating is pegged at an anemic 41 percent.

He simply doesn’t care. He hasn’t cared about any polls since he won re-election. He got caught on video admitting as much to Putin.

He has been a lame duck since November 2008 and will do as much damage to the economy as he can before he leaves office. He has spelled out his “vision” for America more than once and he is doing his level best to fulfill that vision with or without Congress.

Johnnyreb on June 25, 2014 at 10:13 AM

That might be because they LIED and they actually TRIED to destroy the emails.

THE EMAILS STILL EXIST.

dogsoldier on June 25, 2014 at 10:14 AM

The emails are stored somewheres, but by stressing the hard drive crash and tape rotation they are able to obfuscate and people are buying it.

dmacleo on June 25, 2014 at 10:11 AM

No, the whole point of this poll is that practically nobody is buying it. The politicians don’t care though. Boehner and McConnell are co-conspirators with the Whitehouse in making those damning emails disappear, so nothing will come of these Kabuki Theater investigations.

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 10:16 AM

The Mainstream Media are America’s worst enemy right now, it is they who are protecting Obama and company from the consequence of the IRS scandal.

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Blame the lsm…..shameful

cmsinaz on June 25, 2014 at 10:19 AM

The emails are stored somewheres, but by stressing the hard drive crash and tape rotation they are able to obfuscate and people are buying it.

dmacleo on June 25, 2014 at 10:11 AM

No. They are gone, at least at the IRS. Check this out:

http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/06/22/board-sonasoft-irs-email-contractor-working-get-silicon-valleys-wannabe-obama-elected/

ROCnPhilly on June 25, 2014 at 10:21 AM

That might be because they LIED and they actually TRIED to destroy the emails.

THE EMAILS STILL EXIST.

dogsoldier on June 25, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Doesn’t matter! Even IF the emails ARE found, Holder WILL NOT prosecute anyone, period. He won’t appoint any special prosecutors, ever.

It just doesn’t matter. Yes they broke the law with the targeting in the first place. No one will even be fired.

Yes they broke the law by trying to destroy evidence. No one will even be fired.

Nothing will happen. And a good portion of YOUR GOP thinks the IRS Targeting the Tea Party was A-OK.

Every Conservative still hoping that the GOP is THEIR party, are KIDDING THEMSELVES.

Meople on June 25, 2014 at 10:21 AM

The wh says there are no is no connection to them…..trust us
And that’s all the lsm WANTS to talk about…..

cmsinaz on June 25, 2014 at 10:22 AM

No, the whole point of this poll is that practically nobody is buying it. The politicians don’t care though. Boehner and McConnell are co-conspirators with the Whitehouse in making those damning emails disappear, so nothing will come of these Kabuki Theater investigations.

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 10:16 AM

the point also is 26 % are buying it and the politicians are falling into line with them.
its not easy to delete an email from an archive, someone without specific knowledge of exchange servers cannot do it.

and it would be a real rarity for someone with access to the archives to also have access to the log files showing the access and deletions.

dmacleo on June 25, 2014 at 10:22 AM

In light of these numbers, the obsequious nature in which House Democrats have slavishly pandered to IRS officials testifying before congressional investigators seems like an ill-conceived course of action.

Ill-conceived courses of action seem to have been working just fine for the third-world retarded Sukarno clone and his junta. The dems will be just fine tagging along on this. What do they have to fear? The Vichy GOP?? LOL. The traitors in the GOP leadership are too busy committing suicide in order to give aid and comfort to invading illegals …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 25, 2014 at 10:23 AM

Normal people Jump to Conclusions. Remember when Mitt Romney Jumped to the Conclusion that Benghazi was a terroist attack on 911 because the Obama administration was going lax on protections to match the “Alqueda is on the Run” campaign slogan?

Mitt Romney, and you and me, have such suspicious minds.

There is a smidgeon of corruption, rev up the crickets? There was 100 times more news about some orange cones out of place in NJ than on the REAL news.

This morning Fox and Friends had it that there was 110 minutes of news in the Broadcast media news, saying Chris Christie was bad for diverting traffic by means of some orange cones, and this made him a really suspicious person, but only 3 minutes on the IRS Scandal. Now that it has been proved that agents at the IRS were leaking personal information of individuals to political enemies, I want to see 110 minutes of news on that. I want to know if money exchanged hands.

Fleuries on June 25, 2014 at 10:25 AM

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 10:16 AM

the point also is 26 % are buying it and the politicians are falling into line with them.
its not easy to delete an email from an archive, someone without specific knowledge of exchange servers cannot do it.

and it would be a real rarity for someone with access to the archives to also have access to the log files showing the access and deletions.

dmacleo on June 25, 2014 at 10:22 AM

No, 26% are not buying it, 26% approve of it. There is a difference. 26% of America would gladly cheerfully walk barefooted and naked carrying two five gallon cans of gasoline right straight through the gates of hell for the Marxist in chief…

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 10:26 AM

Oh there’s a good reason for the IRS destroying the records; it’s global warming!

Pardonme on June 25, 2014 at 10:27 AM

No. They are gone, at least at the IRS. Check this out:

http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/06/22/board-sonasoft-irs-email-contractor-working-get-silicon-valleys-wannabe-obama-elected/

ROCnPhilly on June 25, 2014 at 10:21 AM

sonosoft had nothing to do with this division and the division they did handle used replication software not archival.
the emails are there if someone that knows where to look is allowed to look.
congress needs to depose an exchange expert and then grant him power to examine servers.
people w/o specific knowledge of how exchange servers work are useless here.

dmacleo on June 25, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Democrats would be better served by taking this investigation as seriously as the American public.

Next you’ll be calling everyone Shirley.

SteveInRTP on June 25, 2014 at 10:31 AM

How many of the “huge majority” genuinely believe it was justified?
.

“Yeah, I think they did it … but so what? It was necessary…”

.
Until that question is part of the poll, the “huge majority” doesn’t mean anything to me.

listens2glenn on June 25, 2014 at 10:31 AM

congress needs to depose an exchange expert and then grant him power to examine servers.
people w/o specific knowledge of how exchange servers work are useless here.

dmacleo on June 25, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Exactly, there is no such thing as a point to point email system. All email goes through multiple email servers. Those servers all archive and retain records of all the email that passes through them.

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Oh there’s a good reason for the IRS destroying the records; it’s global warming!

Pardonme on June 25, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Whoa! That’s pretty racist!

Tard on June 25, 2014 at 10:34 AM

According to the University of Hawaii Geology Department, there are 7.5×10^18 grains of sand on Earth. The odds of the seven hard drives crashing in the manner described by John Koskinen are approximately 1 in 10^21. That means this, boiled down. If I hid a grain of sand somewhere on Earth, and offered you a swell prize for retrieving it one year later, you’d have a 13,333 percent better chance of randomly finding the correct grain of sand than of witnessing the event described by Koskinen. Of course, America en toto having no clue of how probabilities work is something Koskinen has banked on. Unimpeachable integrity my Aunt Fannie!

Flyovercountry on June 25, 2014 at 10:35 AM

The Democrats will just screech that this is a Faux News Poll. It won’t be until the other Democrat Media members do their own polling that the true story will emerge.

But will the Democrat Media even bother to poll this issue? Time will tell, but I’m not holding my breath. They no longer report news.

Del Dolemonte on June 25, 2014 at 10:37 AM

Exactly, there is no such thing as a point to point email system. All email goes through multiple email servers. Those servers all archive and retain records of all the email that passes through them.

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 10:33 AM

yup, that too.
theres just no way they were not archiving her emails IAW the regs, its automatic and to certify the email system as compliant this would have already been in place.
but by pushing stuff like hard drive crash/tape over writes they are fooling congress, although high chance many of them are willingly being fooled.
people in congress use their home computers and email programs and associate those setups as the same as the server side. they are idiots.
I’ve suggested to Issa to depose an exchange expert but never heard back of course.
its all political theatre and congress will be happy to buy false (fake) excuses.

dmacleo on June 25, 2014 at 10:38 AM

Alternate headline: Huge Majorities Acknowledge the Blindingly Obvious.

AZCoyote on June 25, 2014 at 10:42 AM

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 10:33 AM

yup, that too.
theres just no way they were not archiving her emails IAW the regs, its automatic and to certify the email system as compliant this would have already been in place.
but by pushing stuff like hard drive crash/tape over writes they are fooling congress, although high chance many of them are willingly being fooled.
people in congress use their home computers and email programs and associate those setups as the same as the server side. they are idiots.
I’ve suggested to Issa to depose an exchange expert but never heard back of course.
its all political theatre and congress will be happy to buy false (fake) excuses.

dmacleo on June 25, 2014 at 10:38 AM

Like everything that is sent over the internet, emails are sent in packet’s. The email is broken up into individuals packets. The packet’s are given a MD5 or SHA-256 error correction code that allows each server in the transaction to retransmit the individual packet’s over and over again until the recipient acknowledges that it has received all of the packets and that the file is complete. This is done because of the signal to noise ratio in transmission.

Email exchange servers automatically archive emails specifically for the reason that when the email protocols were first written not all email exchange servers were .99999 percent online. OSI layer’s took this into account and made redundancy precautions to ensure that email would still be delivered even if the recipient server was down for more than 24 hours.

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Somebody might be waking up.

formwiz on June 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM

What stuns me is that the elected Democrats don’t understand that at some point in time, these tactics could be used against THEM. The rank and file understands it, but party apparatchiks either don’t know or don’t care….

I’m not so sure it will ever be used against them. First, the bureaucracy as a whole is overwhelmingly liberal. You aren’t going to get any cooperation going after dems. Second, the press would actually do their jobs and expose any attempt to go after dems. So I’m sure they feel pretty safe.

mbs on June 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Waterboard the IRS…

Severian on June 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 10:49 AM

The bottom line is this, while most American’s may be ignorant of what the Standard Model OSI Layer’s are, they know that they are being lied to by the IRS and the Whitehouse, and even most suspect that the GOPe are in on the deception.

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 10:59 AM

Not happening, Noah. The reason they refuse to treat this seriously is because they’re smack dab in the middle of it.

Doughboy on June 25, 2014 at 9:47 AM

Exactly. I’m loving that they all apologized to the smug IRS commissioner. Please continue to kiss the a$$ of the one bureaucracy universally hated by all Americans. Idiots.

KateNE on June 25, 2014 at 11:14 AM

Wow –> 63% of Dems Say IRS Deliberately Destroyed Emails

http://freebeacon.com/politics/63-of-dems-say-irs-deliberately-destroyed-emails/

idesign on June 25, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Left unsaid is that of those 63%, 100 percent approve of what the IRS did, since it was “their” guy in charge of destroying those e-mails. .

Gator Country on June 25, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Waterboard the IRS…

Severian on June 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Raze the IRS.

hawkeye54 on June 25, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Waterboard the IRS…

Severian on June 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Raze the IRS.

hawkeye54 on June 25, 2014 at 11:54 AM

First raze the Mainstream Media to the ground, then the IRS. If the Mainstream Media insists on not reporting or lying about the IRS scandal, then there should be no one around to report on the IRS being razed to the ground.

oscarwilde on June 25, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Not happening, Noah. The reason they refuse to treat this seriously is because they’re smack dab in the middle of it.

Doughboy on June 25, 2014 at 9:47 AM

Exactly. I’m loving that they all apologized to the smug IRS commissioner. Please continue to kiss the a$$ of the one bureaucracy universally hated by all Americans. Idiots.

KateNE on June 25, 2014 at 11:14 AM

The real message from the Democratics especially the moron Cummings was -”thanks for not revealing our involvement in this corruption.”

slickwillie2001 on June 25, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Americans need to show their outrageous outrage by withholding tax payments. If everyone, or at least above a 75% majority do this I think they’d get the message. Their beloved system would collapse, we’d have another gov’t shutdown, checks wouldn’t go out, and the gov’t would blame republicans.

It would be interesting theater anyway. At this point I have no faith this gov’t will ever do the right thing even if every citizen in this country stood up to them with torches and pitchforks. We went over the hump in 2009 and have been sailing downhill ever since.

If this country can be saved it wont be by anything less than a complete revolution, or a complete bloody cleansing of every scumbag in office.

…..may you live in interesting times. (I believe that’s a curse, not a blessing.)

Diluculo on June 25, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Democrats would be better served by taking this investigation as seriously as the American public

…but…but…but it’s a made up scandal…the public must be stupid…and dems know who they represent?

JugEarsButtHurt on June 25, 2014 at 12:08 PM

FINALLY……….A LIE NOBODY BELIEVES, FROM A PRESIDENT NOBODY TRUSTS

JayTee on June 25, 2014 at 12:22 PM

According to the University of Hawaii Geology Department, there are 7.5×10^18 grains of sand on Earth. The odds of the seven hard drives crashing in the manner described by John Koskinen are approximately 1 in 10^21. That means this, boiled down. If I hid a grain of sand somewhere on Earth, and offered you a swell prize for retrieving it one year later, you’d have a 13,333 percent better chance of randomly finding the correct grain of sand than of witnessing the event described by Koskinen. Of course, America en toto having no clue of how probabilities work is something Koskinen has banked on. Unimpeachable integrity my Aunt Fannie!

Flyovercountry on June 25, 2014 at 10:35 AM

Unless the IRS has a big box of old IBM deathstar hard drives. And after witnessing govt. procurement in action, that’s a possibility. The only thing more certain than corruption at the IRS is incompetence at the IRS.

Festus on June 25, 2014 at 1:08 PM

If the devil is the father of lies, then Koskinen is a close relative. He couldn’t recall the name of the person who first told him that the e-mail was missing. The perfect man for the job.

HueMoss on June 25, 2014 at 1:29 PM