Videos: John Koskinen and the no good, very bad, horrible day evening

posted at 8:41 am on June 24, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

The House Oversight Committee hearing went long into the evening, so we didn’t get a chance to post any of the highlights of the interrogation of IRS Commissioner John Koskinen. That doesn’t mean that these exchanges are any less interesting this morning, especially this first clip. Former prosecutor Trey Gowdy takes Koskinen to task for declaring that he’s seen no evidence of criminal wrongdoing in the destruction of e-mail data when, as it turns out, Koskinen has no idea at all what statutes might be in play. And when Koskinen accuses Gowdy of indulging in conspiracy theories … it’s on (via Twitchy):

Jason Chaffetz used a little less heat, but still effectively demolished the claim that the IRS tried “desperately” to restore Lois Lerner’s data after the hard drive crash. But more importantly, Chaffetz points out that the IRS never disclosed that Lerner’s data was lost, not to the Inspector General and not to Congress, during the investigation, even though the IRS knew full well that the data was lost. Koskinen, who was appointed to run the IRS because of the scandal, claims that he didn’t know because, well … he never bothered to ask:

This morning, Jennifer O’Connor will testify in response to a subpoena from Oversight. Now an attorney at the White House, O’Connor was at the IRS from May to November 2013 and in charge of producing the data records related to this investigation. She won’t have Koskinen’s excuse for not disclosing the destruction of data from Lerner and six other IRS officials related to the targeting scandal, so her testimony will be interesting indeed. So will the questioning.


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What an arrogant prick..

Electrongod on June 24, 2014 at 8:45 AM

IRS clown got owned.

Decoski on June 24, 2014 at 8:46 AM

I really hope they jail this smarmy lowlife. WHAT A CROOK!

dogsoldier on June 24, 2014 at 8:47 AM

What an arrogant prick..

Electrongod on June 24, 2014 at 8:45 AM

If I agree with you, does that mean I get audited?

ConstantineXI on June 24, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Gowdy was awesome.

gophergirl on June 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM

He’s protected,knows it,and is telling Americans to shove it.

docflash on June 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Nothing will happen.

albill on June 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM

IRS clown got owned.

Decoski on June 24, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Unless he’s impeached, convicted, and disqualified from any future federal government job, I’ll say he continues to pwn us.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 8:52 AM

Chaffetz nailed it…. the procedure of recycling 6 months tapes is inconsequential. The IRS knew of the inquiries before Lerner’s computer crash and then didn’t think it was necessary for the following 6 months to go to the disaster recovery tapes to recover the data. (Even though they had claimed they went through extraordinary efforts to recover the data).

This is inexplicable when trying to make the case that ‘stuff happens.’ However, it makes perfect sense when you never wanted to recover the data in the first place.

chuckfinlay on June 24, 2014 at 8:52 AM

Well let’s see. We’ve now had what? close to two years
worth of lying, lower than Whale Sh*t, scumbags hauled in
front of Congress to be “held accountable” for the actions
of this Administration, and exactly how many of them have
been charged, or indicted?? In other words, HELD ACCOUNTABLE???

ToddPA on June 24, 2014 at 8:53 AM

This was such a sham. The guy is clearly covering up. “I have seen no evidence”? Well, no sh-t, Sherlock. The reason you haven’t seen it is because it was destroyed(or hidden away from the House Republicans). The fact that he kept saying that made it clear he was coached to play dumb for the committee.

And that’s not to say that the dude isn’t lying. When he was questions(I think by Jordan) about the circumstances in which he was told about the lost e-mails in April and he claimed to not know who had informed him or even how he was told(e-mail, phone, in person), it was clear he was full of crap.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Gowdy got cut off for time. Riiiiight.

Decoski on June 24, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Classic example of “you can’t fire me” attitude of far too many government workers. This Dem thinks he’s beyond prosecution (and may well be) and will be set for life w/ his govt pension that guarantees him a pension increase every year.

Meanwhile, regular Americans are getting the shaft.

Too many govt workers: vote Democrat to protect their easy jobs; won’t be held accountable; would absolutely fail in the private work sector.

This attitude problem is systemic and has been there a long time. Many, many years ago, I worked as a contractor in the Naval dept. Daily, the crew in the section next to me came in late; spent at least an hour on their morning and afternoon coffee breaks; took a long lunch; and when sitting at their desks, talked more about their weekends than work. Yet the Navy had to hire a high-priced contractor to get the work done. Oh, these weren’t entry level workers, either.

MN J on June 24, 2014 at 8:54 AM

Chaffetz nailed it…. the procedure of recycling 6 months tapes is inconsequential. The IRS knew of the inquiries before Lerner’s computer crash and then didn’t think it was necessary for the following 6 months to go to the disaster recovery tapes to recover the data. (Even though they had claimed they went through extraordinary efforts to recover the data).

This is inexplicable when trying to make the case that ‘stuff happens.’ However, it makes perfect sense when you never wanted to recover the data in the first place.

chuckfinlay on June 24, 2014 at 8:52 AM

I’ll go so far as to say that the change in e-mail backup vendors was done so that couldn’t happen.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 8:54 AM

I love Trey Gowdy. LOL

ButterflyDragon on June 24, 2014 at 8:55 AM

Unless he’s impeached, convicted, and disqualified from any future federal government job, I’ll say he continues to pwn us.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 8:52 AM

Well, Koskinen himself may not pay any price for this(other than coming off as a lying political hack). But the IRS is looking terrible in the wake of these hearings. They’re at the very least completely incompetent and at worst overrun with corruption. Not exactly the kind of reputation you want for the bureaucracy tasked with overseeing Obamacare.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 8:56 AM

This is going nowhere. If the GOP was serious there would be a select committee formed, and subpoenas for the subcontractors who archived the data, and the other 6 IRS employees would have been issued. But keep voting Republican

Brock Robamney on June 24, 2014 at 8:57 AM

And all of this will lead to …what?

That’s what I want to know.

Sherman1864 on June 24, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Nothing will happen.

albill on June 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Exactly. All of this scolding going on in these hearings is fun to watch but that’s about it. When is someone going to actually do something about it? When is the actual investigation going to start that will yield facts and possibly prosecution? We’re all waiting.

VinceOfDoom on June 24, 2014 at 8:59 AM

Well, Koskinen himself may not pay any price for this(other than coming off as a lying political hack). But the IRS is looking terrible in the wake of these hearings. They’re at the very least completely incompetent and at worst overrun with corruption. Not exactly the kind of reputation you want for the bureaucracy tasked with overseeing Obamacare.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 8:56 AM

I submit it is exactly the reputation the Left wants for the IRS…because said reputation will prevent a critical mass from forming to do anything about it.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:00 AM

That smirk was looking a little more like a nervous twitch.

Gowdy did well for a simple country boy.

Drained Brain on June 24, 2014 at 9:01 AM

We are paying this sly chicken eating fox to live a fat fox life in our own chicken house.

He is on our pay roll “never forget”, so is John F. Kerry.

We pay Obama a check once a month.

All the commie smug smirking Democrats on the committee are on our dime.

Now who the fools?

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 24, 2014 at 9:02 AM

And all of this will lead to …what?

That’s what I want to know.

Sherman1864 on June 24, 2014 at 8:58 AM

I am frustrated with the end game too. That said, I think there is something to continuing to force answers from multiple people under oath until you find someone who has more to lose by lying than telling the truth.

I would be infinitely more frustrated if the GOP dropped this altogether.

chuckfinlay on June 24, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Public Bad Service Unions.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Either Lois Lerner and John Koskinen go to jail or no one ever has to pay income tax again. “I paid it, the records got eaten by a grue.”

rbj on June 24, 2014 at 9:04 AM

http://therightscoop.com/irs-commissioner-doesnt-remember-who-told-him-lois-lerners-emails-were-gone-in-april/

Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH) should get a shout out for his video as well. It was a wonderful “Wait, you don’t remember who told you?!!”

Marcus on June 24, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Gowdy/Chaffetz 2016

mankai on June 24, 2014 at 9:06 AM

What to do, like my wife , we live in Texas, she and 30 other conservative women and 5 or 6 retired men have a phone bank operation and they are now working the phones on getting out the vote in Miss. to get the RINO Cocran out of office.

Work at it hard to November.
Then start on the next Senate and House elections.

Do not back down.

Get in their face with votes.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 24, 2014 at 9:06 AM

If they were serious there would be a special prosecutor.

Issa and the Republicans are trying to drag it out hoping it can help in the 2014 elections; i.e. soundbites from tough talking Congressman to use in 2014 election ads.
Politics.
No results.

albill on June 24, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Yep, Orc Boy got got his ass handed to him on a platter. And?

And nothing.

He could have pulled out a stack of IRS hard drives and a power drill right there at his table, started drilling holes in them, and then lit a bonfire on the floor and thrown the drives into it, and all while wearing a sandwich board inscribed with “Can’t Touch This! Hammer Time” and the GOP would do nothing but glare at him.

The dude is untouchable, everyone knows it, he knows it, and there’s a pardon in his pocket which is why the GOP will do nothing.

This is a clown show, run by clowns for the amusement of other clowns, and nothing will come of it. Nothing. It’s over, the Nazis win.

Bishop on June 24, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Interesting article about the Detroit water system in regards to what we were talking about yesterday. GPP, the only Pointe that doesn’t have it’s own water supply is planning on building it’s own, along with Flint and Lapeer.

Flange on June 24, 2014 at 9:07 AM

It’s all a show folks…

PatriotRider on June 24, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Are you people dense? Why is it so hard to comprehend the fact that Ms. Lerner’s antiquated computer, as well as the computers of the six other IRS suspects, simply imploded? In fact, over 2,000 IRS employees experience catastrophic and completely unrecoverable hard drive crashes every year. Let’s see you process 100 million tax files with 258MB on a Pentium 1.

Hell, many government employees are permanently stuck trying to use 5″ floppies.

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Interesting article about the Detroit water system in regards to what we were talking about yesterday. GPP, the only Pointe that doesn’t have it’s own water supply is planning on building it’s own, along with Flint and Lapeer.

Flange on June 24, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Quite interesting. Thanks.

I could hijack the thread with the water works situation here in the Milwaukee area, but I think we’re close to 30 comments.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:09 AM

After the cameras stop, everybody walks away with smiles knowing that their lifetime pension check will be in the mail…

PatriotRider on June 24, 2014 at 9:09 AM

Blah blah blah; talk is cheap. Until the crooks end up in Sing Sing breaking rocks for the rest of their natural lives, we don’t have an opposition party.

I know, many other comments expressed a similar sentiment. Just wanted to add my cheap talk to the party.

Fenris on June 24, 2014 at 9:09 AM

Gowdy ’16.

vityas on June 24, 2014 at 9:09 AM

So help me keep up, please. Where does this end? Nowhere, right?

Who appoints a special prosecutor?

Why should I ever support a GOP candidate again if they can’t get these weasels to talk? /rhetorical question, probably

Grace_is_sufficient on June 24, 2014 at 9:09 AM

We need a tax revolt in this country over this issue, period. Anyone in favor of a march on Washington with a gathering on the Mall?

SC.Charlie on June 24, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Last fall, a top Obama Homeland Security adviser generated controversy when he wrote that the U.S. Constitution was “Islamically compliant.”

Mohamed Elibiary returned to the topic in a Saturday morning Twitter post: “… I said America was an Islamic country not a Muslim country. Pls study up on the difference b4 attacking me.” The post appears to have been deleted from Elibiary’s Twitter feed.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/06/23/Elibiary-America-Is-an-Islamic-Country

davidk on June 24, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Note when this slime bucket appeared before Camp on Friday, he kept on saying that, “the tapes are only good for 6 months because we’re so broke and stuff.. oh, well, too bad.”

Then last night when cornered, he changes his tune and says, “Oh those tapes, ha, those are worthless tapes, just too complex or something.”

kevinkristy on June 24, 2014 at 9:11 AM

I submit it is exactly the reputation the Left wants for the IRS…because said reputation will prevent a critical mass from forming to do anything about it.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:00 AM

I don’t know. That’s not exactly working out well for the VA right now.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Either Lois Lerner and John Koskinen go to jail or no one ever has to pay income tax again. “I paid it, the records got eaten by a grue.”

rbj on June 24, 2014 at 9:04 AM

There are not enough Zork references on Hot Air. Well done!

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on June 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Question: Who cares about Lerner’s hard drive?

First – every email she sent, went to someone, right? Search for recipients.

Second – I know of no email that is peer-to-peer.
Every email system operates off a server.

jake-the-goose on June 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM

trying to use 5″ floppies.

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Keep your sex life out of this.

CurtZHP on June 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Nothing will happen.

albill on June 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Gotta win the Senate for something to happen.

Good Lt on June 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Who appoints a special prosecutor?

Grace_is_sufficient on June 24, 2014 at 9:09 AM

That’s be Holder. You’d have better luck having OJ help you find the murderer.

crrr6 on June 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM

What was with Cummings during his little soliloquy near the end of the hearing?
I would swear it looked like he was trying to force a few tears.

lynncgb on June 24, 2014 at 9:13 AM

There are not enough Zork references on Hot Air. Well done!

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on June 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Thought I was the only one who caught that.

CurtZHP on June 24, 2014 at 9:13 AM

I don’t know. That’s not exactly working out well for the VA right now.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:11 AM

The VA can’t arbitraily ruin just anybody’s life. The IRS can.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:13 AM

After the cameras stop, everybody walks away with smiles knowing that their lifetime pension check will be in the mail…

PatriotRider on June 24, 2014 at 9:09 AM

They’re trying to impress the Great Herd out here, that’s all they’re doing.

The government is feral and has gone beyond the reach of the citizens; they now do what they want whenever they want and no one in their little club ever pays a price for the destruction they cause.

What are we going to do, take them to court? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Bishop on June 24, 2014 at 9:13 AM

Is there any evidence that what Lois Lerner was allegedly concerned about retrieving from her hard drive was even EMAIL? At that point, she could have logged into her email account from any computer in the world and gotten all extant email. I think she wanted other things on her computer, not email, and that is why the IRS made no attempt to retrieve any of it. I’m sure they were all relieved to remember that her hard drive had crashed so they could explain the loss of email–which of course it horseshit, but convenient.

VirginiaPlain on June 24, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Some damn fine sarcasm there.

When I heard Koskinen talk about “tapes” I laughed my azz off. They have such low regard for congress and the American people they don’t even bother making up high quality bullshit.

The people running the IRS are all crooks.

dogsoldier on June 24, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Gotta win get 75 in the Senate for something to happen.

Good Lt on June 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM

ReWrite™ engaged for mathematics. The reason why I didn’t say 67 is I remember 1999 all too well.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:15 AM

I really hope they jail this smarmy lowlife. WHAT A CROOK!

dogsoldier on June 24, 2014 at 8:47 AM

They could put Lerner, the commish, and every found-beneath-a-flat-rock scumbag into prison, and this will be the result:

On Bambi’s last day as POTUS, he’ll whip out his pen and commute everyone’s sentence.

Everyone…EVERYONE…convicted in this swindle will go free on the day Bambi goes to Hawaii.

The only thing to stop that is you convict Bambi.

But wait…Then Uncle Turdhead Biden will commute everyone.

You’re dealing with the mafia here. The days of Jimmy Carter, who at least had integrity and honor, are long done in the Dem party. It’s all a s**thouse of wh0r3s as far as the eye can see.

thejackal on June 24, 2014 at 9:16 AM

Not gonna repeat it .. the “hard drive crash” is meaningless. Look elsewhere to see why.

corona79 on June 24, 2014 at 9:16 AM

That creep reminds me of Gollum.

forest on June 24, 2014 at 9:18 AM

We need a tax revolt in this country over this issue, period. Anyone in favor of a march on Washington with a gathering on the Mall?

SC.Charlie on June 24, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Where do I sign up?

SteveInRTP on June 24, 2014 at 9:19 AM

If they were serious there would be a special prosecutor.

Issa and the Republicans are trying to drag it out hoping it can help in the 2014 elections; i.e. soundbites from tough talking Congressman to use in 2014 election ads.
Politics.
No results.

albill on June 24, 2014 at 9:06 AM

But that’s ultimately Holder’s call. So it’s worthless to b-tch about a special prosecutor when we all know he’ll never appoint one. The only play the House has left barring a whisteblower coming forward is to arrest Lerner and pressure her to talk. Because even though these hearings are embarrassing for the IRS and by extension the Democrats, no one is ultimately going to be punished for this.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Jason Chaffetz used a little less heat, but still effectively demolished the claim that the IRS tried “desperately” to restore Lois Lerner’s data after the hard drive crash. But more importantly, Chaffetz points out that the IRS never disclosed that Lerner’s data was lost, not to the Inspector General and not to Congress, during the investigation, even though the IRS knew full well that the data was lost.

This bothers me to no end. Are we now conceding that emails were actually lost? We’re conceding this point? Is there some new evidence or indication that goes against the reality of sending emails via the Internet?

Lolo on June 24, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Gowdy: Knows the law, in a nation ruled by law.

Koskinen: Knows the lie and snubs the law.

That was a smackdown that could run on pay-per-view.

fogw on June 24, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Kabuki.

At this point, until someone is charged and arrested, this is meaningless.

Let the war begin.

Midas on June 24, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Who appoints a special prosecutor?

Grace_is_sufficient on June 24, 2014 at 9:09 AM

That’s be Holder. You’d have better luck having OJ help you find the murderer.

crrr6 on June 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM

There is no special prosecutor law anymore, as far as I know (I’m not a lawyer, I could be wrong). So first you have to pass a special prosecutor law, and then you have to get Obama to sign it, and then you get Holder to appoint one to investigate himself and his boss.

Fenris on June 24, 2014 at 9:21 AM

But that’s ultimately Holder’s call. So it’s worthless to b-tch about a special prosecutor when we all know he’ll never appoint one. The only play the House has left barring a whisteblower coming forward is to arrest Lerner and pressure her to talk. Because even though these hearings are embarrassing for the IRS and by extension the Democrats, no one is ultimately going to be punished for this.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:19 AM

And Bo(eh)ner already took that off the table.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Jason Chaffetz used a little less heat, but still effectively demolished the claim that the IRS tried “desperately” to restore Lois Lerner’s data after the hard drive crash. But more importantly, Chaffetz points out that the IRS never disclosed that Lerner’s data was lost, not to the Inspector General and not to Congress, during the investigation, even though the IRS knew full well that the data was lost.

This bothers me to no end. Are we now conceding that emails were actually lost? We’re conceding this point? Is there some new evidence or indication that goes against the reality of sending emails via the Internet?

Lolo on June 24, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Correct, and part of why I have no confidence in this going anywhere.

The left openly lies, sets the terms and language to be used going forward, and the right simply plays along. The argument has proceeded on to what the left wants it to be about, and ‘we’ just adopt the lie as the new foundation for the argument.

Pathetic.

Midas on June 24, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Story of mauled girl getting tossed from KFC is a hoax—Another big lie to get money–the press in this country is a total joke

Dollayo on June 24, 2014 at 9:22 AM

We need a tax revolt in this country over this issue, period. Anyone in favor of a march on Washington with a gathering on the Mall?

SC.Charlie on June 24, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Yes.

Midas on June 24, 2014 at 9:23 AM

This is going nowhere. If the GOP was serious there would be a select committee formed, and subpoenas for the subcontractors who archived the data, and the other 6 IRS employees would have been issued.

Brock Robamney on June 24, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Exactly.
Why bother with an arrogant clown who doesn’t seem to remember or actually know anything? Get the records and timeline of the “Crash”..subpoena the IT people and everyone who had any knowledge of the process. Put them under oath. Start there and see what develops.

Mimzey on June 24, 2014 at 9:25 AM

When will there be a Democrat ANYWHERE with a shred of honesty?

TX_HCG on June 24, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Look at how arrogant Koskinen is, though…he knows nothing will come of this, that the media will whitewash it as just a Republican fishing expedition and that the Dems will run interference for them. That’s the most infuriating thing about this whole fiasco, him sitting there with that smirk on his face as he expects the rest of us to believe that this is all a mere coincidence, and that if they just had a few more billions thrown their way it wouldn’t have happened.

It’s pretty clear to anyone who has been paying attention that the admin directed the IRS to target their political opponents, and that the agency has been engaged in a cover up of that fact. It’s all too convenient that emails just go missing not only from Lerner but from other targets in the investigation, emails that also conveniently can’t be recovered with no attempt to do so.

changer1701 on June 24, 2014 at 9:26 AM

thejackal on June 24, 2014 at 9:16 AM

You’re correct.

Not gonna repeat it .. the “hard drive crash” is meaningless. Look elsewhere to see why.

corona79 on June 24, 2014 at 9:16 AM

We must keep repeating it. They are lying. I’ve been saying this for nearly two weeks, as have others.

dogsoldier on June 24, 2014 at 9:27 AM

This bothers me to no end. Are we now conceding that emails were actually lost? We’re conceding this point? Is there some new evidence or indication that goes against the reality of sending emails via the Internet?

Lolo on June 24, 2014 at 9:19 AM

I think the House Republicans are just playing along with the BS narrative in order to make Koskinen look foolish. It’s absurd for him to claim these e-mails were lost, but simultaneously say that he never bothered to inform Congress, doesn’t recall who told him the e-mails were gone, never spoke to anyone in the FBI or DOJ about it, and that nothing was done to try to retrieve the e-mails from the 6 month backup that the IRS is required to maintain.

He’s either the most inept department head I’ve ever seen or he’s blatantly lying.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:27 AM

I’d be cheering this on if I had even the slightest hope that it would lead to something. Not only will nothing result in this, but the next GOP pres nominee will not even use this to push for dramatic restructuring or a new tax code that eliminates the need for an IRS.

Dongemaharu on June 24, 2014 at 9:27 AM

And all of this will lead to …what?

That’s what I want to know.

Sherman1864 on June 24, 2014 at 8:58 AM

A further weakening of confidence in government institutions, an increased sense in the citizenry that the rule of law does not matter, an increase in apathy, a loss of morale, an increase in authoritarianism and government bullying, and a continuing undermining of civil liberties.

See Francis Schaeffer’s How Then Shall We Live for the preview of coming attractions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TET_a6IDUg8#t=22m41s

EA_MAN on June 24, 2014 at 9:28 AM

And why are only the biggest people being questioned? These guys are made people. They know they are safe. Are they not even going to question any of the small fries at the software company or admin who handled the computer crash?

Dongemaharu on June 24, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Well, after last night can there be any doubt that Koskinen is little more than WH pawn, an arrogant goon sent and scripted by the WH to run out the clock on the IRS investigation.

petefrt on June 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM

It’s pretty clear to anyone who has been paying attention that the admin directed the IRS to target their political opponents, and that the agency has been engaged in a cover up of that fact.

changer1701 on June 24, 2014 at 9:26 AM

If that’s true – and I agree that it is – there is simply no other solution beyond open rebellion at this point. We know by now that nothing is going to be done by all of this kabuki theater going on with the hearings. No one will be held responsible, and on the other side of this, the guilty will simply be emboldened by the knowledge that they can use the force of the government to destroy their political opponents.

Midas on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Scott Johnson of powerlineblog, an attorney himself, discusses evidentiary data.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/06/the-irs-scandals-an-evidentiary-note.php

Koskinen is playing a parsing game with pure arrogance.

onlineanalyst on June 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Are you people dense? Why is it so hard to comprehend the fact that Ms. Lerner’s antiquated computer, as well as the computers of the six other IRS suspects, simply imploded? In fact, over 2,000 IRS employees experience catastrophic and completely unrecoverable hard drive crashes every year. Let’s see you process 100 million tax files with 258MB on a Pentium 1.

Hell, many government employees are permanently stuck trying to use 5″ floppies.

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Guess the IRS should of used the money spend on conferences and star trek videos to update the equipment.

wifarmboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

ReWrite™ engaged for mathematics. The reason why I didn’t say 67 is I remember 1999 all too well.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:15 AM

guess the original point stands, huh?

Good Lt on June 24, 2014 at 9:33 AM

I think the House Republicans are just playing along with the BS narrative in order to make Koskinen look foolish….

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:27 AM

So you agree it’s all about optics and politics. Reelect the big government Republicans, they’re more competent than the big government Democrats!!!

Until they take actions that will lead to apparatchiks getting hard jail time this is meaningless, and it will all be forgotten after the election.

Fenris on June 24, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Lolo,

This bothers me to no end. Are we now conceding that emails were actually lost? We’re conceding this point? Is there some new evidence or indication that goes against the reality of sending emails via the Internet?

This.

Mike Honcho on June 24, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Aren’t those emails public records? And therefor they are supposed to archived permanently as federal records?

This 6 months backup as disaster recovery is fishy.

Also, the 6 month backup can only be used if the whole email system goes down…and everyone’s hard drive fails? What kind of backup system makes it difficult to fix specific failures?
This whole thing stinks.

gwelf on June 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Gowdy might have brought the heat but Chaffetz was the best questioner of the evening.

Imagine: I back up I my hard disk, and save the tapes for six months. My hard disk crashes. Instead of recovering my files from tape ( the entire purpose of having a backup system) I send the old hard disk out to a forensic team, and when that fails to recover the files, I throw my hands up in the air and move on.

It like having your car not start one morning and instead of getting a jump, sending it to Detroit (where GM also can’t start it).

Lerner’s failure to restore the emails from tape is a clear indication of criminal intent.

motionview on June 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM

I’d be cheering this on if I had even the slightest hope that it would lead to something. Not only will nothing result in this, but the next GOP pres nominee will not even use this to push for dramatic restructuring or a new tax code that eliminates the need for an IRS.

Dongemaharu on June 24, 2014 at 9:27 AM

It depends on who the nominee is. I can’t believe for one second though that this won’t be a major issue in the 2016 GOP primaries. Whoever seeks the nomination from the right will make this and other Obama scandals the centerpiece of their campaign. It goes right to the heart of why we need smaller government.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:36 AM

guess the original point stands, huh?

Good Lt on June 24, 2014 at 9:33 AM

That it does. I merely defined the term “win”.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:36 AM

They’re at the very least completely incompetent and at worst overrun with corruption. Not exactly the kind of reputation you want for the bureaucracy tasked with overseeing Obamacare.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Dude, where have you been for the last 25 years? They had this reputation long before this case………….

GWB on June 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Ho hum, just another day in obamas lawless Amerika….

crosshugger on June 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

…These guys are made people.

Dongemaharu on June 24, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Excellent use of the phrase; I’m going to steal that.

Fenris on June 24, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Agree Marcus …Jordan was great

cmsinaz on June 24, 2014 at 9:38 AM

He’s protected,knows it,and is telling Americans to shove it.

docflash on June 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM

That explains the “smirks” on his face when being questioned. The people behind him were also laughing! Truly sickening

wolverinefan on June 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM

Are you people dense? Why is it so hard to comprehend the fact that Ms. Lerner’s antiquated computer, as well as the computers of the six other IRS suspects, simply imploded? In fact, over 2,000 IRS employees experience catastrophic and completely unrecoverable hard drive crashes every year. Let’s see you process 100 million tax files with 258MB on a Pentium 1.

Hell, many government employees are permanently stuck trying to use 5″ floppies.

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Hmmm.

Maybe putting them in charge of enforcing something like the nation’s health care laws wasn’t such a great idea, then.

After all, if they are having this much trouble with freaking emails on a 1.8 BILLION dollar budget, then what the hell do you think will happen with people’s infinitely more complex and sensitive medical records and billing records?

The Democrats will feign surprise at that imminent clusterf*ck as well while they continue lying to the public about it and blaming The Other as they are trying to do now.

Good Lt on June 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM

He’s either the most inept department head I’ve ever seen or he’s blatantly lying.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:27 AM

No need to think of those as mutually exclusive conditions.

GWB on June 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Did Frank lib really just plead poverty for the irs? They have an IT budget of 1.8 Billion dollars. That’s Billion with a B. I would think that you could purchase a lot of new hardware with that much money. It always strikes me odd that in my work, we are always trying to find ways to do things better, faster and cheaper. The government just wants more money.

jharbert on June 24, 2014 at 9:42 AM

You have to shake your head with the “oh, nothing will happen. It’s just the Republicans playing along” when you have your TEA PARTY LEADERS here leading the charge. So you sit back and demand they be elected and when representatives elected by the Tea Party perform beautifully like Trey Gowdy or Chaffetz it’s all “ehh, why bother”. Take a seat.

Marcus on June 24, 2014 at 9:43 AM

What cracks me up is that Koskinen pretends that he has never heard of Judicial Watch. I guess he only looks as if he lives under a rock, right?

onlineanalyst on June 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Unless he’s impeached, convicted, and disqualified from any future federal government job, I’ll say he continues to pwn us.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 8:52 AM

There is a very good argument to be made that this statement applies equally to every individual in the current administration…

yaedon on June 24, 2014 at 9:47 AM

I’d be cheering this on if I had even the slightest hope that it would lead to something. Not only will nothing result in this, but the next GOP pres nominee will not even use this to push for dramatic restructuring or a new tax code that eliminates the need for an IRS.
Dongemaharu on June 24, 2014 at 9:27 AM

You haven’t heard what Sen. Cruz has been saying?

onlineanalyst on June 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM

This is going nowhere. If the GOP was serious there would be a select committee formed, and subpoenas for the subcontractors who archived the data, and the other 6 IRS employees would have been issued. But keep voting Republican

Brock Robamney on June 24, 2014 at 8:57 AM

As opposed to what? Voting for Democrats, who support this corruption at the highest level of our government? The current process is in effect, because it is the process. Next comes what you’ve suggested above if/when the evidence presents the need to go further.

I’ll be sure to vote for tons of Democrats to produce these desired results. /

Rovin on June 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Cummings is awful. Just a complete and utter hack.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on June 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM

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