Attorneys: Sudan arrests Meriam Yehia Ibrahim, family at airport

posted at 9:21 am on June 24, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday’s good news has turned into perhaps even worse news than before. A day after Sudan buckled under international pressure and released Meriam Yehia Ibrahim from prison and a death sentence for apostasy, security forces arrested the entire family at the airport as they attempted to leave the country:

A Sudanese woman whose death sentence for refusing to renounce her Christian faith was revoked has been rearrested, her legal team told CNN Tuesday.

Meriam Ibrahim, 27, and her husband, Daniel Wani, were arrested Tuesday at an airport in Sudan’s capital as they were trying to leave the African country, Ibrahim’s legal team said.

The Daily Mail reports that forty agents took the family of four into custody:

The couple were detained by around 40 security agents with their two children, Maya, one month, and Martin, 21 months.

Meriam’s lawyer, Shareif Ali Shareif, told MailOnline: ‘Meriam Ibrahim and Daniel Wani were arrested at the airport two hours ago [about 1230GMT).

‘They are now in the detention of the National Security forces.

‘The family were trying to leave Sudan for a safe place.

‘The children were with them. The children are with Meriam. They were arrested as well.

‘We don’t have any information about what charges they face. But the National Security force does not have to take them to court. This is not a criminal matter, it a national security matter.’

That cuts both ways, though. In the prior case, the Sudanese government claimed to have no authority to intervene in judicial proceedings (the same would be true here). This is no judicial proceeding, but an act of the government. Diplomacy in this case directly bears on the detention of Ibrahim and her family.

Furthermore, the detention now involves an American citizen, Daniel Wani, as well as the citizenship of his two children. The State Department has to take action with the Sudanese government in this situation, especially given the affront of arresting Wani in the first place after all of the discussion between the US and Sudan over his wife.

The global outcry over Ibrahim’s death sentence for her faith helped to set her free. Let’s hope a similar outcry over this arrest as she prepared to leave Sudan to practice her faith freely does the same, and let’s also hope that State is burning up the phone lines demanding an end to Sudan’s persecution of Ibrahim, her family, and all Christians in the country.

Update: Reuters confirms the arrest with a Sudanese official, although they still won’t say why:

Sudanese authorities re-arrested a Sudanese woman on Tuesday hours after she was freed from death row, and detained her and her family as they tried to board a plane in Khartoum, a security source and her lawyer said. …

The security official said he did know the reason for the re-arrest. One of Ibrahim’s lawyers said she was being held at a security building outside the airport with her husband and two children.

The State Department needs to get the family on a diplomatic transport as soon as possible.


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Fore!!!…

PatriotRider on June 24, 2014 at 9:24 AM

So wrong. Prayers.

22044 on June 24, 2014 at 9:24 AM

Hate to say it, but they’re as good as dead.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Like so many other situations, Obama has no clue what to do. So he’ll either pretend it doesn’t exist, or will make some meaningless pronouncements. After he’s all golf-ed out, maybe he’ll ask some flunky to study the matter, and then he’ll promptly forget about it unless it becomes a political liability. If the flunky ever gets back to him, he’ll decide to do the opposite, or nothing, and if anything good does come out of the random chaos, or by actions closer to the scene, he’ll take credit. If anybody dies, he’ll make sure and use catchphrases such as “let me be clear” and “no place in our society”.

Heck, if that’s all it takes, I could be Preezy of the United Steezy.

Fenris on June 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Wearing that much makeup should be a criminal offense. It certainly is a visual one. I mean seriously, one of the most important days of your life, and you want to look like someone totally different than you who you are?

Stop using that photo! gag!

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Why can’t you people just let this die? Who are you to force your cultural and “religious” views on the Sudanese people? “Morality” and “ethics” are nothing more than prejudicial Western concepts that we’ve tried to force on the global community since Christian Extremists started butchering innocent Muslims during the Crusades.

Diversity and Multiculturalism are the only victims here.

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

The Obama Regime will break all manner of laws to attack the Tea party, but they won’t make the discreet threats that are necessary to get these people out?

forest on June 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Obama can play hardball on this or get Michelle to make another BS hashtag sign.

Dongemaharu on June 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

When you go over the top like that it destroys the illusion. Ratchet it back a little.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

What difference, at this point, does it make?

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Good thing we have a State Department that Protects our
Citizens abroad…..

Seriously, WHAT THE FU*K is wrong with our Government??
Weren’t officials from our government overseeing her release???

ToddPA on June 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Didn’t anyone tell them the only way they get protection from Teh One is if they either sneak in to the US illegally through Mexico or abandon a military post?

chris0christies0donut on June 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Hate to say it, but they’re as good as dead.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Were our President anyone else but the current occupant, I would demure. But under the circumstances, I’m afraid your conclusion has merit.

Ricard on June 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

When you go over the top like that it destroys the illusion. Ratchet it back a little.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Except I’ve heard more over the top positions from people who actually believed it. They’re not rare.

The only thing that makes Frank Lib unbelievable is that he expresses things in a more coherent way than most lefties, and so there is an illusion of a thought process. He’s not scatterbrained enough, and doesn’t bring up irrelevant lefty issues du jour.

Fenris on June 24, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Maybe they should send one of the Clintons to Sudan.

chris0christies0donut on June 24, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Wish we had a President with real b@lls, not the limp-wristed POS that occupies the WH now.

Does anybody have any doubt what Reagan, or for that matter GWB, do in such a situation? RR would publicly announce that, starting immediately, one cruise missile targeting a government office would be launched every 15 minutes until the family is released.

I fear Steve Eggleson is right.

We are have witnessinged the death of America. Obama abandons a Marine in Mexico, the American pastor in Iran(?) and I have no doubt he’ll abandon this family as well.

brushman on June 24, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Wearing that much makeup should be a criminal offense. It certainly is a visual one. I mean seriously, one of the most important days of your life, and you want to look like someone totally different than you who you are?

Stop using that photo! gag!

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Life or death situation and that is what matters to you. Wow.

wifarmboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:44 AM

We are have witnessinged the death of America. Obama abandons a Marine in Mexico, the American pastor in Iran(?) and I have no doubt he’ll abandon this family as well.

brushman on June 24, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Not if you come up with a super cool hashtag.

chris0christies0donut on June 24, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Obama can play hardball on this or get Michelle to make another BS hashtag sign.

Dongemaharu on June 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

If he was smart, he’d send Michelle to negotiate. In person. There are plenty of outcomes that wouldn’t be negative for him or the country. *cough*

GWB on June 24, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Horrible.

gwelf on June 24, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Kerry has other priorities

cmsinaz on June 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Can’t wait for Obama to whip out his twitter hashtags.
That’ll show ‘em.

gwelf on June 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM

He’s not scatterbrained enough, and doesn’t bring up irrelevant lefty issues du jour.

Fenris on June 24, 2014 at 9:43 AM

He also uses capitalization and punctuation.

GWB on June 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM

When you go over the top like that it destroys the illusion. Ratchet it back a little.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

I dunno, I’m rather enjoying what he’s writing. Makes me laugh AND it saves our resident trolls from producing lower quality posts.

Brainfreeandwhine and Verby can’t match that.

dogsoldier on June 24, 2014 at 9:47 AM

Damn

gophergirl on June 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM

…Seriously, WHAT THE FU*K is wrong with our Government??
Weren’t officials from our government overseeing her release???

ToddPA on June 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Bureaucrats do no take initiative; rocking the boat endangers their world view, and hence their reason for existence and self respect. We are increasingly a government of bureaucrats.

And we all know nobody Obama administration cares enough to do anything.

Fenris on June 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Life or death situation and that is what matters to you. Wow.

wifarmboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Driving your car is a life or death situation. So is climbing stairs. Riding an elevator or escalator. Using a wood chipper in news recently shows a life or death situation. I also think making out, possibly grinding on a balcony is a life or death situation.

I guess there just is no time in anyone’s life for anything, because, well, it is all life or death.

But hey, I will get right on to saving their lives. What should I write down here at HotAir.com to accomplish that?

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM

He also uses capitalization and punctuation.

GWB on June 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Heh. I can read his posts.

22044 on June 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Why can’t you people just let this die? Who are you to force your cultural and “religious” views on the Sudanese people?

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

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I don’t believe anything about this story implicates us evil Christians, in trying to “force our cultural and religious views on the Sudanese people.”
.

“Morality” and “ethics” are nothing more than prejudicial Western concepts that we’ve tried to force on the global community since Christian Extremists started butchering innocent Muslims during the Crusades.

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

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Ain’t nobody here trying to defend the Christian Crusaders from the Dark Ages, so your ‘reminder of past history’ is meaningless here.
.

Diversity and Multiculturalism are the only victims here.

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

.
Awww, Frank’ … why don’t you go put on your most flagrant ‘atheism promoting’ T-shirt, and take a walk through the streets of Dearborn, MI ?

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM

On the same basis that Reagan rescued Americans from Granada, this family should be rescued by, oh never mind.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Why can’t you people just let this die? Who are you to force your cultural and “religious” views on the Sudanese people? “Morality” and “ethics” are nothing more than prejudicial Western concepts that we’ve tried to force on the global community since Christian Extremists started butchering innocent Muslims during the Crusades.

Diversity and Multiculturalism are the only victims here.

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Moronic. Hotair should block you based on the sheer stupidity of that statement alone.

Recon5 on June 24, 2014 at 9:50 AM

And we all know nobody Obama administration cares enough to do anything.

Fenris on June 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Their situation contradicts King Putt’s “narrative” on islam.

Religion of murder, death, mayhem, destruction, and did I mention death?

dogsoldier on June 24, 2014 at 9:51 AM

I am soooooo tired of the persecution against Christians, while Obama does NOTHING!

musicman88 on June 24, 2014 at 9:51 AM

The only thing that makes Frank Lib unbelievable is that he expresses things in a more coherent way than most lefties, and so there is an illusion of a thought process. He’s not scatterbrained enough, and doesn’t bring up irrelevant lefty issues du jour.
Fenris on June 24, 2014 at 9:43 AM

He should pretend he barely knows English like everdouche-o used to do.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM

I can tell Sudan really respects Obama. They better watch out…he’s going to be so mad after he finishes his daily 36 holes of golf and sees this on MSNBC this evening.

AUINSC on June 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Dude, it’s parody. Relax.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 9:53 AM

What should I write down here at HotAir.com to accomplish that?

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Considering what the comment was writing nothing.

wifarmboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Hate to say it, but they’re as good as dead.

Steve Eggleston on June 24, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Steve—I know things look bleak but is there some fact which leads you to that conclusion. I suspect that hostage taking in the Muslim world, even sanctioned by Islamic governments, has now become nome de rigueur since the release of the tali 5.

This story is so heart wrenching. Meriam’s courage forces us to ask questions of ourselves about that which is most important–our Faith, our family, our souls.

cthemfly on June 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

When you go over the top like that it destroys the illusion. Ratchet it back a little.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Frank just made my whole argument for liberal internment camps, along with a bonus sterilization procedure.
Hope I can count on your vote.

Recon5 on June 24, 2014 at 9:56 AM

brushman on June 24, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Steve probably is correct.

dogsoldier on June 24, 2014 at 9:56 AM

He should pretend he barely knows English like everdouche-o used to do.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM

And create a prestigious back story, and then let out hints every once in a while that he actually lives with his mother. But nothing too obvious.

Fenris on June 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM

I am soooooo tired of the persecution against Christians, while Obama does NOTHING!

musicman88 on June 24, 2014 at 9:51 AM

He is doing something. Something else. Like golf or fundraising or partying. You know, like that. Livin’ large and stuff.

dogsoldier on June 24, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Yes, and he is likely to issue a “strongly worded statement”. Our enemies shake with fear when he speaks. Right……

musicman88 on June 24, 2014 at 10:05 AM

What should I write down here at HotAir.com to accomplish that?

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Considering what the comment was writing nothing.

wifarmboy on June 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Considering how much your comments on here have accomplished, that is pretty much what you should have written it seems.

This is a LIFE OR DEATH SITUATION and you are wasting your time talking about me wasting my time and not helping.

Based on this I am guessing so far you have called two Senators already, your representative for your district and have several others in mind for…? Have you written Obama on Twitter yet? He has a phone and a pen you know. I sure am glad we have top men like you on this. TOP MEN!

That photo is still disturbing and disgusting to look at.

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 10:09 AM

islam will not rest until only one muslim is left alive. (because muslims resort to murdering muslims when there are no Christians or Jews to murder).

ConstantineXI on June 24, 2014 at 10:09 AM

The Sudanese government forgot to negotiate for the release of a few more terrorists before letting her go.

Mr. Bultitude on June 24, 2014 at 10:09 AM

I am soooooo tired of the persecution against Christians, while Obama does NOTHING!
musicman88 on June 24, 2014 at 9:51 AM

Obama dithers at everything until it goes away. Ask Ambassador Stevens.

ConstantineXI on June 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM

musicman88 on June 24, 2014 at 10:05 AM

They tremble in anticipation…

dogsoldier on June 24, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Too bad they aren’t military deserters or we could have them out of there in a jiffy…

Wyznowski on June 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Just shut up.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 10:13 AM

Just shut up.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 10:13 AM

No?

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Anyone think the US government will make any effective effort to help these people? Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi says “nope”.

MTF on June 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM

The unfortunate part here is that when dealing with governments like Sudan, the State Department has diplomacy and not much else, and countries like Sudan love to thumb their noses at US diplomats. Especially nowadays. The State Department cannot rush in and physically rescue this family.

Ultimately, until this family is out of Sudan, they will be at the whim of the Sudanese government and there isn’t much that the US can do about it if the Sudanese do not want to listen (unless we are prepared to threaten them with something… and there might not be much to work with there outside of physical force).

guinneach on June 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Who cares? Seriously. Now we’re going to pick and choose who we open our borders to based on their religion? The double standard here is disappointing. We need to stop being the world’s police. End of story. This is not our problem.

NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Diversity and Multiculturalism are the only victims here.

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Hey Frank,

Aren’t diversity and multiculturalism moral and ethical issues? Which would make them prejudicial Western concepts that we’ve tried to force on the global community since…oh…wait…

Speaking of the Crusades, what about the years preceding those Crusades during which innocent Muslims slaughtered thousands of those wicked, nasty Christians across all of North Africa and the Middle East? Or did your history class conveniently miss that part?

Just askin’…

Mr. Bultitude on June 24, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Last night, my wife told me how relieved she was that Ibrahim had been released from jail. I told her that I wouldn’t be happy until she had arrived safely here in the US, because the Sudan is a festering bunghole of a crapfest of a hellhole and that she could be arrested/killed at any time while in the country. Little did I suspect that it would be so soon.

We’re talking about an American citizen, his wife and his two children who, I believe, are also citizens by virtue of their father. And we’re allowing this backwater, savage infested country to simply capture and-probably- execute them? It reaches a point where diplomatic options kind of narrow down to “release her and her family, safely, or we will turn your country into a parking lot”.

Physics Geek on June 24, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Wearing that much makeup should be a criminal offense. It certainly is a visual one. I mean seriously, one of the most important days of your life, and you want to look like someone totally different than you who you are?

Stop using that photo! gag!

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Don’t you have some Kardashian’s to comment upon or something?

Midas on June 24, 2014 at 10:21 AM

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Judging by your reaction you got my point.

wifarmboy on June 24, 2014 at 10:21 AM

Who cares? Seriously. Now we’re going to pick and choose who we open our borders to based on their religion? The double standard here is disappointing. We need to stop being the world’s police. End of story. This is not our problem.

NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Did you even bother to read about the case, or did you just come here to leave some troll droppings behind? Never mind, I already know the answer.

Doomberg on June 24, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Please don’t respond to Frank Lib any longer. That’s a HA conservative who for some reason thinks antagonizing folks as a liberal troll is amusing. Really nothing different than a liberal troll, but they actually believe their crap. I honestly don’t get it, and it adds nothing to the discussion.

Whatever, have a good f*cking time.

Midas on June 24, 2014 at 10:25 AM

Who cares? Seriously. Now we’re going to pick and choose who we open our borders to based on their religion? The double standard here is disappointing. We need to stop being the world’s police. End of story. This is not our problem.

NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM

We’ll try to remember that when you and your family are arrested abroad because of your religion (assuming you’re a US citizen). End of story. Not our problem.

Thanks for the tip.

Midas on June 24, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Wearing that much makeup should be a criminal offense. It certainly is a visual one. I mean seriously, one of the most important days of your life, and you want to look like someone totally different than you who you are?

Stop using that photo! gag!

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM

You are a despicable, disgusting d-bag!!!

Right after you GFY, please play a rousing round of Russian roulette with a fully loaded revolver.

ZeusGoose on June 24, 2014 at 10:28 AM

So when the Sudan offered to give Osama Bin Laden to Bill Clinton he dithered and let the moment pass.

Now, when the Sudan is going to kill an innocent person…and potentially an American citizen…will Obama also dither?

18-1 on June 24, 2014 at 10:30 AM

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Just wondering who lost their sock?

bimmcorp on June 24, 2014 at 10:30 AM

The Sudanese are not stooopid… They saw the sort of negotiations and plunder they could get from the Dog Eater and they figured if they just snatch this family up, they could reap a pretty substantial payment. Just think..it worked so well for the Taliban, why not extort the incompetent one as well?

bimmcorp on June 24, 2014 at 10:33 AM

You are a despicable, disgusting d-bag!!!

Right after you GFY, please play a rousing round of Russian roulette with a fully loaded revolver.

ZeusGoose on June 24, 2014 at 10:28 AM

Hmm.
I commented about their make-up.
You comment about douche bags. Going to F&ck oneself and recommend that I commit suicide.

Yeah, I am the one here with issues…

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 10:34 AM

Jun 24, 2014 at 10:27 am Midas
Who cares? Seriously. Now we’re going to pick and choose who we open our borders to based on their religion? The double standard here is disappointing. We need to stop being the world’s police. End of story. This is not our problem.
NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM
We’ll try to remember that when you and your family are arrested abroad because of your religion (assuming you’re a US citizen). End of story. Not our problem.
Thanks for the tip.

She’s not an American citizen. If we’re going to save every religious refugee in the world, we’d better start raising taxes now. Let’s just open our borders to anyone who wants to come here then! Come one, come all! You folks are ok with saving her, but want to send two year olds back to the jungles of Guatemala? I just don’t get it. Her situation sucks, but unlike bleeding heart liberals, I thought we conservatives could separate emotion and reason. Apparently not.

NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM

The State Department needs to get the family on a diplomatic transport as soon as possible.
– Ed

Kerry should stop for a refueling…and collect these guys.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM

Dude, it’s parody. Relax.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 9:53 AM

I agree. I think it’s the same guy that posts on Townhall as ‘Loyal Prog’, and by several previous names.The writing style is similar.

It’s always funny to see people who either are new, don’t bother to read comments regularly or were born without the satire gene get all bent out of shape.

ZeusGoose on June 24, 2014 at 10:38 AM

Anyone think the US government will make any effective effort to help these people? Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi says “nope”.

MTF on June 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Well, the fact that they are black might stir some activity from Barky, but even that may be a stretch. He’s too worried about his ‘lactation room’ and ‘selfy wall’ as well as the plight of the American housewife to be bothered with a couple of dumb Christians in the Sudan. Priorities, dontcha’ know??

bimmcorp on June 24, 2014 at 10:38 AM

can we bomb sudan

i mean it’s just The Worst

TarasBulbous on June 24, 2014 at 10:40 AM

As Rommel was bearing down on Cairo, there were signs all over Egypt, “In Heaven, your master is Allah! On earth, it is Adolf Hitler!”.

Sounds like they’ve learned the Gestapo’s tactics.

formwiz on June 24, 2014 at 10:40 AM

Who cares? Seriously. Now we’re going to pick and choose who we open our borders to based on their religion? The double standard here is disappointing. We need to stop being the world’s police. End of story. This is not our problem. NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Three of them are Americans genius.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 10:42 AM

She’s not an American citizen. If we’re going to save every religious refugee in the world, we’d better start raising taxes now. Let’s just open our borders to anyone who wants to come here then! Come one, come all! You folks are ok with saving her, but want to send two year olds back to the jungles of Guatemala? I just don’t get it. Her situation sucks, but unlike bleeding heart liberals, I thought we conservatives could separate emotion and reason. Apparently not.

NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM

She may not be, pal, but her husband and those 2 kids ARE U.S. Citizens. This has nothing to do with conservative vs. liberal, either. It has everything to do with Americans being kidnapped overseas, and held for ransom. Barky gave a lot for a deserter..what do you suppose he’ll give for a family of 4? A black family, to boot??

bimmcorp on June 24, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Kerry should stop for a refueling…and collect these guys.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM

Fat chance, verbaldouche…

bimmcorp on June 24, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Who cares? Seriously. Now we’re going to pick and choose who we open our borders to based on their religion? The double standard here is disappointing. We need to stop being the world’s police. End of story. This is not our problem.

NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Hey, would you like to amend your foolish statement?

The Sudanese have arrested a United States citizen, his wife (who would certainly be granted US citizenship in the future) and their US citizen children as they were attempting to flee the country to avoid a new death sentence on the wife.

The family’s religion is why they’ve been arrested, the reason why the wife was sentenced to death.

Their religion is NOT the reason why State should exert themselves to prevent these American citizens from being slaughtered by country filled with muslim barbarians, but you would have known that if you hadn’t gagged at the word “Christian”.

Now, beat it, moron.

Dolce Far Niente on June 24, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Yeah, I am the one here with issues…

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 10:34 AM

Well, at least you’ve finally recognized you have a problem. That’s the first step.

Unfortunately, for a morally and mentally bereft moron like yourself, there’s only a two-step solution to your problem.

I’ve already outlined them for you in my original post.

ZeusGoose on June 24, 2014 at 10:46 AM

NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Under the Protection of Our Flag

By Denis Keohane

President Reagan was fond of telling the story of Captain Duncan Ingraham, U.S. Navy, and did so in remarks to the crew on board the USS Constellation on August 20, 1981.

After a failed attempt in 1848-1849 to free Hungary from the Austro-Hungarian Empire, one of the Hungarian leaders, named Martin Koszta, emigrated to the United States. In doing so, Koszta made a sworn declaration of his intent to become an American citizen, and renounced any allegiance to any foreign power. He started an import business, and nearly two years after taking that oath, while in Turkey on private business, he was recognized and seized by agents of the Empire and imprisoned in chains on an Austrian brig-of-war in Smyrna Harbor. Koszta faced a sentence of death by hanging. The American consul, under whose protection Koszta operated in Turkey, protested to the Turkish government and the Austrian naval officers, to no avail.

Captain Duncan Ingraham, in command of the sloop-of-war Saint Louis, determined that Koszta was under the protection of the U.S. flag by virtue of his sworn intent to become a citizen. On July 2, 1853, Ingraham threatened to open fire on the much larger Austrian warship if Koszta was not released by four o’clock. It must be noted that this was before the telegraph or other means of communication by which Ingraham could verify his decision with higher authority. The U.S. naval officer was challenging a mighty European power and a more powerful ship on the basis of his judgment of what it meant for a person, even if not yet a citizen of the United States, was entitled to, under the protection of the U.S. flag.

The Austrians released Kozsta by four ‘o’clock, turning him over to the neutral French until diplomatic necessities ran their course, and he was released to return to the United States in short order. When Captain Ingraham returned to the U.S., he conditionally tendered his resignation to Congress, if by his actions he had overstepped his authority, embarrassed his country, or otherwise failed in his duty. Instead, the United States Congress awarded Captain Ingraham with a Congressional Gold Medal, with the following citation:

Be it resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the President of the United States be, and he is hereby, requested to cause to be made a medal, with suitable devices, and presented to Commander Duncan N. Ingraham, of the navy of the United States, as a testimonial of the high sense entertained by Congress of his gallant and judicious conduct on the second of July, eighteen hundred and fifty-three, in extending protection to Martin Koszta, by rescuing him from illegal seizure and imprisonment on board the Austrian war-brig Hussar.

There have been four U.S. Navy warships named USS Ingraham, after Captain Duncan Ingraham. Currently in service is the USS Ingraham (FFG-61), the last Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate to be built, launched on June 25, 1988 in the final days of the Reagan administration.

Doctor Meriam Yahia Ibrahim Ishag is the 27-year-old woman, pregnant until recently, currently sentenced to death in Sudan for the crimes of apostasy and adultery. She is to receive 100 lashes and then be hanged – a sentence to be carried out after her newborn child is weaned. She is imprisoned in shackles, and her twenty-month-old child Martin is imprisoned with her. She was born in Sudan to a Muslim father and a Christian mother, but the father left the family, and she was raised Christian. That leads to the apostasy charge: under sharia law, she deserves death, because she has been convicted of leaving Islam for Christianity and has refused to renounce her faith and accept Islam. The adultery charge is based on her not being allowed to marry a Christian under sharia, and therefore sexual relations with her Christian husband make for adultery. Her husband, and the father of the toddler and the newborn child, Daniel Wani, is an American citizen who lives in Manchester, NH.

As this story has spread, so too has knowledge of how the Obama-Kerry State Department is addressing the issue. In an interview on FOX News with Greta Van Susteren, Mr. Wani was asked if the U.S. government and State Department were helping in any way. Mr. Wani replied:

No. I don’t know. But when the case starts on September I went to the embassy and tried to report the case. But their councilor she said she don’t have time. Even she don’t want to listen to us. And two time I tried to talk to her but she won’t listen. And she say, you know, go to the U.N. your wife is not a — she’s not American. I say I’m American. And she said, Daniel, you have to have the problem, she appeals to do anything. Even my son. She put process for watching the birth, put the process on hold.

The Daily Mail reported that Mr. Wani said that he was asked to provide DNA evidence that the imprisoned toddler was his son. The administration has been loath to address the issue of the imprisoned child’s status, and when State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki was asked about the child, she replied that she didn’t have any more details to share. The Boston Globe reports:

In a statement, a spokeswoman for the State Department said the United States is “fully engaged diplomatically in the case,” and had communicated “strong concern at high levels of the Sudanese government.” The statement reiterated an earlier US call for Sudan to respect international and Sudanese laws protecting freedom of religion.

However, Republican Senators Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire and Roy Blunt of Missouri have noted that none of the statements from the State Department or from Homeland Security about the case even mentioned that Daniel Wani is a U.S. citizen, nor have they addressed citizenship issues regarding the toddler and Miriam’s unborn child!

By all appearances, the Obama-Kerry team is looking at this issue, if at all, on the basis of lofty and ill-defined concepts of proper 21st-century behavior, of universal rights and great mushy get-alongism, and avoiding at all costs giving offense. To Obama and Kerry, world citizenship is what matters, and to bring in the concepts of U.S. citizenship and being under the protection of the U.S. flag would be so very nineteenth century!

If this administration took seriously the words of the Declaration of Independence, that “to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,” and understand the true purpose of their offices, the USS Ingraham would be headed for Port Sudan on the Red Sea, accompanied by a carrier group, there to take Meriam Yahia Ibrahim Ishag and her children under the protection of the flag of the United States.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 10:47 AM

She’s not an American citizen. If we’re going to save every religious refugee in the world, we’d better start raising taxes now. Let’s just open our borders to anyone who wants to come here then! Come one, come all! You folks are ok with saving her, but want to send two year olds back to the jungles of Guatemala? I just don’t get it. Her situation sucks, but unlike bleeding heart liberals, I thought we conservatives could separate emotion and reason. Apparently not.

NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM

You might want to consider researching the case before embarrassing yourself any further.

Doomberg on June 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Stop using that photo! gag!

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM

A lovely wedding photo offends you? That is a bit disturbing.

katy the mean old lady on June 24, 2014 at 10:49 AM

NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM

You might want to consider researching the case before embarrassing yourself any further.

Doomberg on June 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM

He sounds too stubborn for things like facts.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 10:50 AM

A lovely wedding photo offends you? That is a bit disturbing.

katy the mean old lady on June 24, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Outside of the eyes, there is no human in that photo. Looking at the level of make-up, it is possible they are even wearing contacts that change the looks of their eyes. That is what is offensive. It is so totally unnatural as to be painful to the eye. Maybe it has some serious Photoshopping going too.

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Kerry should stop for a refueling…and collect these guys.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM

Fat chance, verbaldouche…

bimmcorp on June 24, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Think about all the names you’d call him if he did.
Think about how you’d find a reason to mock such a mission if it was successful.
Think about how mad and upset you just are on a regular basis.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 10:54 AM

To Frank Lib:
Why can’t you people just let this die? Who are you to force your cultural and “religious” views on the Sudanese people? “Morality” and “ethics” are nothing more than prejudicial Western concepts that we’ve tried to force on the global community since Christian Extremists started butchering innocent Muslims during the Crusades.

Diversity and Multiculturalism are the only victims here.

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Do you ever think or have you ever read the history of the crusades, chico? Christian Extremists??? Are you totally insane of just so liberal that if someone believe in God you condemn them? Tell me which Christian group goes around beheading people, bombing buildings, murdering crowds??????

chai on June 24, 2014 at 10:55 AM

A lovely wedding photo offends you? That is a bit disturbing.

katy the mean old lady on June 24, 2014 at 10:49 AM

asteronii is struggling with the concept of appropriate public discourse.

Dolce Far Niente on June 24, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Send two aircraft: A State Dept jet and an AC-130H Gunship.

Tell the Sudanese that either the family boards the jet or the AC-130 rains hell.

Give them an hour to make up their minds, and then show them how that flying hellbringer can ruin your day.

Conservative Mischief on June 24, 2014 at 10:58 AM

let’s also hope that State is burning up the phone lines demanding an end to Sudan’s persecution of Ibrahim, her family, and all Christians in the country.

I pray for this family’s well-being and freedom.

I also understand that we have pResident who confessed the Islamic confession of faith in Arabic, so I doubt that he will direct his State department to demand the release of these Christians.

God’s hand needs to move in this situation

ITguy on June 24, 2014 at 10:59 AM

chai on June 24, 2014 at 10:55 AM

He’s laughing his arse off dingleberry, it’s a parody, he’s a sock puppet, it’s a joke, he thinks he’s being funny and poking libs by pretending to be one.

There are several of these creatures here now, they probably got here when foreign ships dumped their bilge in our waters.

Sheesh.

Akzed on June 24, 2014 at 10:59 AM

Why can’t you people just let this die? Who are you to force your cultural and “religious” views on the Sudanese people? “Morality” and “ethics” are nothing more than prejudicial Western concepts that we’ve tried to force on the global community since Christian Extremists started butchering innocent Muslims during the Crusades.

Diversity and Multiculturalism are the only victims here.

Frank Lib on June 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Do you ever think or have you ever read the history of the crusades, chico? Christian Extremists??? Are you totally insane of just so liberal that if someone believe in God you condemn them? Tell me which Christian group goes around beheading people, bombing buildings, murdering crowds??????

chai on June 24, 2014 at 10:55 AM

He’s pretending to be a ‘liberal’.
Just fyi.
If only his satire was funny or biting. It’s weak stuff.
What is funny is how his fake ‘liberal’ position is actually mirroring that of a few here who for sure consider themselves conservatives.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 11:00 AM

Jun 24, 2014 at 10:50 am verbaluce
NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM
You might want to consider researching the case before embarrassing yourself any further.
Doomberg on June 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM
He sounds too stubborn for things like facts.

She’s married to a US citizen. She’s not a US citizen. Where are my facts wrong? You folks sound like the left on immigration. Don’t we have enough problems to worry about? Apparently not.

NoStoppingUs on June 24, 2014 at 11:00 AM

asteronii is struggling with the concept of appropriate public discourse.

Dolce Far Niente on June 24, 2014 at 10:56 AM

We should have laws that force me into what YOU say is appropriate.

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 11:00 AM

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM

WHO GIVES A FLYING FVCK EXCEPT YOU?

katy the mean old lady on June 24, 2014 at 11:01 AM

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Do you realize how many of your arguments are made of straw?

Well, yeah, the SoS didn’t actually do anything to help this family, but…but…you’d have mocked him if he did!

If you think we’d be anything but delighted if this administration acted, you are a silly, sorry excuse for a human being.

Perhaps your difficulty stems from your fervent belief that EVERYTHING your masters do must be excellent, and you can’t comprehend it when we disagree.

Dolce Far Niente on June 24, 2014 at 11:02 AM

WHO GIVES A FLYING FVCK EXCEPT YOU?

katy the mean old lady on June 24, 2014 at 11:01 AM

You apparently care tremendously. Or you would take my statement, file it away or discard it and move on…

astonerii on June 24, 2014 at 11:04 AM

Someone’s wedding photo must look more like “American Gothic”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Gothic

katy the mean old lady on June 24, 2014 at 11:05 AM

…where’s Mooch holding a sign saying… “LET OUR GIRL GO!

JugEarsButtHurt on June 24, 2014 at 11:05 AM

If you think we’d be anything but delighted if this administration acted…

Dolce Far Niente on June 24, 2014 at 11:02 AM

I must amend the above.

It is entirely within the realm of possibility that Obama would propose to empty Gitmo and give Sudan a billion dollars or so for a new mosque or two in exchange for this family, in which case we would be “anything but delighted”.

But, hey… that’s just nuance, or somepin’.

Dolce Far Niente on June 24, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Think about all the names you’d call him if he did.
Think about how you’d find a reason to mock such a mission if it was successful.
Think about how mad and upset you just are on a regular basis.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Don’t need to think about that, Pea Brain, because we both know that will never happen.

And my being angry and upset on a regular basis is none of your damned business. Pretty hard not to be angry and upset when one sees their nation crumbling before their eyes, and lunatics such as you cheering the destruction with glee. GFY.

bimmcorp on June 24, 2014 at 11:07 AM

There has to be a nice carrot that will entice Secretariat to take action.

ezspirit on June 24, 2014 at 11:07 AM

If you think we’d be anything but delighted if this administration acted, you are a silly, sorry excuse for a human being.

Dolce Far Niente on June 24, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Were you around when OBL was found and killed?

Or more recently, when Bergdahl was released…or when Khatallah was apprehended in Libya?

Right.

My comment is not directed at everyone…but it’s 100% fair and accurate.
I am certainly glad to know that you personally would be delighted, supportive, and congratulatory.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 11:10 AM

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