Actor Gary Oldman unloads on liberal tropes in history’s most honest interview

posted at 1:21 pm on June 24, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Gary Oldman is an amazing actor, and he must know it. If only because of the way in which he freely used racial epithets and profanity while unloading on political correctness in Washington and Hollywood.

In an interview with Playboy, the actor defended what many called the racist and homophobic remarks made by actors like Mel Gibson and Alec Baldwin. He asked what would happen to him if he, for example, called House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) a “f***ing useless c**t,” and excoriated modern society for building up figures as heroes which he sees as having no cultural value.

On modern culture, Oldman ripped into helicopter parenting. He said that parents are treating their children as though they are “the center of the f***ing universe.” This, he says, fosters a sense of narcissism in children which leads to “depression and anxiety.”

“Our world has gone to hell,” Oldman added.

“I think we’re up s**t creek without a paddle or a compass,” Oldman said of modern culture. “Reality TV to me is the museum of social decay.”

“Who’s the hero for young people today?” the actor asked. “Some idiot who can’t f***ing sing or write or who’s shaking her ass and twerking in front of 11-year-olds.”

Modern political correctness, which Oldman calls a “f***ing joke,” has contributed to what he sees as the current cultural rot.

The actor defended Gibson who was virtually blacklisted from Hollywood after he made what were considered anti-Semitic remarks.

“He got drunk and said a few things, but we’ve all said those things. We’re all f***ing hypocrites. That’s what I think about it. The policeman who arrested him has never used the word n***** or that f***ing Jew? I’m being brutally honest here. It’s the hypocrisy of it that drives me crazy.”

“Mel Gibson is in a town that’s run by Jews and he said the wrong thing because he’s actually bitten the hand that I guess has fed him,” Oldman added. “But some Jewish guy in his office somewhere hasn’t turned and said, ‘That f***ing kraut’ or ‘f*** those Germans,’ whatever it is?”

Oldman said that the backlash Gibson and Baldwin faced after they made insensitive comments is a reactionary instinct which can be primarily attributed to prominent liberals.

Well, if I called Nancy Pelosi a c**t — and I’ll go one better, a f***ing useless c**t — I can’t really say that. But Bill Maher and Jon Stewart can, and nobody’s going to stop them from working because of it. Bill Maher could call someone a f*g and get away with it. He said to Seth MacFarlane this year, ‘I thought you were going to do the Oscars again. Instead they got a lesbian.’ He can say something like that. Is that more or less offensive than Alec Baldwin saying to someone in the street, ‘You f*g’? I don’t get it.

Oldman described himself as a libertarian. “But you don’t come out and talk about these things, for obvious reasons,” he admitted. On the current administration, and the prospect that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton may succeed President Barack Obama, Oldman was not sanguine.

“What can I say? I feel we need some real leadership, and it’s nowhere in sight,” he observed. “Look at what’s happening right now. John Kerry going off to China to talk about North Korea? What’s that going to do? The ludicrousness of it. What a waste of money. You’re going to go to the puppeteer and say, ‘Can you help me with the puppet?’”

“So this interview has gone very badly,” Oldman conceded. “You have to edit and cut half of what I’ve said, because it’s going to make me sound like a bigot.”

Playboy did not oblige.

“I’m defending all the wrong people. I’m saying Mel’s all right, Alec’s a good guy. So how do I come across?” he asked. “Angry?”

“It’s dishonesty that frustrates me most,” Oldman concluded. “I can’t bear double standards. It gets under my skin more than anything.”

As of this posting, the reaction to Oldman’s exceedingly honest interview has been muted. No doubt, however, every anti-defamation group on earth is drafting their apology demands.

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PC will, as it should, kill all.

Schadenfreude on June 24, 2014 at 1:21 PM

The media who promote a limit to freedom of speech don’t deserve the freedoms of the 1st Amendment.

Schadenfreude on June 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM

called House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) a “f***ing useless c**t,”

Dogenes of Sinope can rest, I think he’s found his honest man.

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 1:27 PM

He said that parents are treating their children as though they are “the center of the f***ing universe.” This, he says, fosters a sense of narcissism in children which leads to “depression and anxiety.”

Just finished an old book about “child worshippers” from the 70′s. He’s dead on which explains much of “the stupid government will take good care of us” mentality that is destroying America.

Don L on June 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM

I’m sorry – you just linked to the Playboy website via HotAir?

Clean it up.

DrewbieDoo on June 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM

The dude went scorched-earth. True to his libertarian principles, though. I’ll watch the reaction with interest for sure.

Matticus Finch on June 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM

He’s a great actor.
I wouldn’t think those skills come from the quiet type.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM

I hate warriors, too narrow-minded. I’ll tell you what I do like though…a killer, a dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold blooded, clean, methodical and thorough. Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF-1, would’ve immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun.

ZORG – The 5th Element

One of my favorite Gary Oldman characters.

jake-the-goose on June 24, 2014 at 1:29 PM

As I noted in Headlines, Gibson didn’t just blurt out anger at Jews because of his Hollywood experience, he accused them of starting every war in the world. That is the mark of a true anti-Semite conspiratorialist.

He comes from a tradition which has marked Jews as less-than-human and as persecutors of Palestinians.

mankai on June 24, 2014 at 1:30 PM

I hope this doesn’t end his career.

Steven Den Beste on June 24, 2014 at 1:30 PM

I guess to be honest in Hollywood you just need the security of being one of your generation’s best actors. If Gary Oldman loses work because of this, it’ll only hurt the producers and directors who don’t use him, since he’s truly a marvelous actor.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 24, 2014 at 1:30 PM

He’s an actor, so I don’t care what he thinks. Why should he get a platform that a pharmacist or a bus driver wouldn’t get?

cbenoistd on June 24, 2014 at 1:31 PM

A real man for once.

docflash on June 24, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Tell me where he’s wrong. Political correctness is bad enough, but the double standard in applying it by the media is what’s most offensive. People left-of-center get away with saying some truly horrific things, while anyone on the other end of the political spectrum gets raked over the coals.

And by the way, I love that question he asked about who young people regard as their heroes today. I’m sure surveys have been conducted, but I’d be very interested to see the results.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Why should he get a platform that a pharmacist or a bus driver wouldn’t get?

cbenoistd on June 24, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Because no one pays ten bucks to watch the best bus drivers in the world make their routes or the best phamacists fill prescriptions.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 24, 2014 at 1:33 PM

I generally find PC more often than not deserving of mockery and dismissal.
That said, what I dislike even more is when people say truly mean or offensive bits and then follow with ‘oh, excuse me for not being PC!’.
So in many ways, the backlash on PC has somehow allowed for true dickishness to find an excuse….and defenders.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 1:34 PM

I’m sorry – you just linked to the Playboy website via HotAir?

Clean it up.

DrewbieDoo on June 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM

To quote Sergeant Hulka: Lighten up, Francis

bigmacdaddy on June 24, 2014 at 1:35 PM

I hope this doesn’t end his career.

Steven Den Beste on June 24, 2014 at 1:30 PM

I’m sure it has.

He’s an actor, so I don’t care what he thinks. Why should he get a platform that a pharmacist or a bus driver wouldn’t get?

cbenoistd on June 24, 2014 at 1:31 PM

I’d sympathize with this comment more if we weren’t living in a world where George Clooney and Matt Damon are already treated as Absolute Moral Authorities.

TaraMaclay on June 24, 2014 at 1:35 PM

I disagree with him on some parts, of course. I don’t think Mel is ‘alright.’ If you’ve heard his voicemails with Oksana Grigorieva, it’s clear he’s a deeply disturbed individual. But if somebody is going to punish Mel for his beliefs, it should be the individual consumers.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 24, 2014 at 1:35 PM

I no longer watch Gibson because he’s a guy of poor character-he was accused of beating his baby momma-and a Jew-hater.
Gary Oldman’s statements were refreshing.
Time to rent ‘Tinker Tailor…’

annoyinglittletwerp on June 24, 2014 at 1:36 PM

He asked what would happen to him if he, for example, called House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) a “f***ing useless c**t,”

I once suggested the same thing on a thread some years back and got a warning email from AP…

OmahaConservative on June 24, 2014 at 1:37 PM

He’s British. He’s seen what PC can do. Look at the UK.

portlandon on June 24, 2014 at 1:37 PM

“Who’s the hero for young people today?” the actor asked. “Some idiot who can’t f***ing sing or write or who’s shaking her ass and twerking in front of 11-year-olds.”

Amen, Mr. Oldman.

It burns me up inside when people my age can’t hold a simple discussion about world affairs or politics, yet know everything about MTV, TMZ, Facebook and Miley Cyrus (let’s be real: Oldman was likely referring to Miley Cyrus).

Obama voters personified.

Aizen on June 24, 2014 at 1:37 PM

He’s a great actor.
I wouldn’t think those skills come from the quiet type.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM

What?! Gary Oldman is one of the quietest people around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c&list=PLBCD7BB1A6C7EA44D&index=1

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 1:38 PM

OmahaConservative on June 24, 2014 at 1:37 PM

There are ways to get around that. I’ve done it.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 24, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Because no one pays ten bucks to watch the best bus drivers in the world make their routes or the best phamacists fill prescriptions.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 24, 2014 at 1:33 PM

What about train engineers?

Link

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 1:39 PM

I once suggested the same thing on a thread some years back and got a warning email from AP…

OmahaConservative on June 24, 2014 at 1:37 PM

The times they are a changin’.

Flange on June 24, 2014 at 1:39 PM

As I noted in Headlines, Gibson didn’t just blurt out anger at Jews because of his Hollywood experience, he accused them of starting every war in the world. That is the mark of a true anti-Semite conspiratorialist.

He comes from a tradition which has marked Jews as less-than-human and as persecutors of Palestinians.

mankai on June 24, 2014 at 1:30 PM

He was also drunk. I don’t think you can draw the conclusions you do based on an angry, drunken tirade. If he is an anti-semite, he certainly hid it well from Hollywood for decades.

As for Oldman, he’s right…even about Baldwin, who I cannot stand. I thought it was pretty well-known that he was right of center, though.

changer1701 on June 24, 2014 at 1:41 PM

They were having a baby over this on the local fox channel 5 in DC this morning. We used to think he was a good actor but now oooooh!

faol on June 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM

I’m sorry – you just linked to the Playboy website via HotAir?

Clean it up.

DrewbieDoo on June 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM

I only go to the Playboy website to look at the pictures.

myiq2xu on June 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Watching steam engines meandering is like porn to my husband.
My husband is quiet mad. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on June 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Bowie

Bmore on June 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Priorities and PC

The world soon will have a big war on its hands, but it ain’t gon’ be about these little things. Heads will fly off.

Schadenfreude on June 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Schadenfreude on June 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Another reason why I want to make Aliyah.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 24, 2014 at 1:44 PM

. . . . . So in many ways, the backlash on PC has somehow allowed for true dickishness to find an excuse….and defenders.

verbaluce on June 24, 2014 at 1:34 PM

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“Dickishness” (is that a word?), whether it’s “true” or otherwise, is in the eye of the beholder.

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Holy crap. I always liked him as an actor but now I respect the hell out of him. Too bad his career is now over. You’re not allowed to say such things in the current USA. Time for him to be taken away for re-education.

Jack_Burton on June 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Wait, are people concerned that Mel Gibson has like, suffered or something? Isn’t he still a millionaire movie star who gets to do pretty much whatever he wants?

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Mel Gibson is somehow a racist, homophobic anti-Semite whose closest friends include Danny Glover, Jodie Foster and Robert Downey Jr.

Impressive.

TaraMaclay on June 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM

It burns me up inside when people my age can’t hold a simple discussion about world affairs or politics, yet know everything about MTV, TMZ, Facebook and Miley Cyrus

Aizen on June 24, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Don’t forget the Kardashians and all the black athletes that are their bastard’s baby daddies. They can’t point out Africa on a map but know all the (scripted) twists and turns in the lives of a vile family whose late father defended OJ Simpson.

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

As for Oldman, he’s right…even about Baldwin, who I cannot stand. I thought it was pretty well-known that he was right of center, though.

changer1701 on June 24, 2014 at 1:41 PM

I’ve known Oldman’s political leanings since late 2000 when The Contender came out. But I remember being shocked at the time. I never imagined the dude who played Drexl Spivey in True Romance was a conservative-libertarian.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

As I said earlier, Anti-Semitism has nothing to do with political correctness.

Demanding there be a Menorah next to a Christmas Tree in an airport in Kansas, does.

Ben Hur on June 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

I think we found the answer to everyone’s pondering question: “Is there an honest man left in Hollywood?”

I believe “double-standard” best describes today’s divisive phenomena.

Marcus Traianus on June 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Wait, are people concerned that Mel Gibson has like, suffered or something? Isn’t he still a millionaire movie star who gets to do pretty much whatever he wants?

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Congrats entirely missing the point of what Oldman said.

Jack_Burton on June 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

TaraMaclay on June 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Danny Glover is an UBER-Jew hater.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 1:39 PM

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Watching steam engines meandering is like porn to my husband.
My husband is quiet mad. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on June 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM

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That just means your husband is a ‘normal’ rail-fan (or “foamer”).

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM

I’m sorry – you just linked to the Playboy website via HotAir?

Clean it up.

DrewbieDoo on June 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Good luck cleaning up Playboy. You do realize you have to presume that in order to share the article source it has to be linked there. right?

Bmore on June 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Watching steam engines meandering is like porn to my husband.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Is it the going in and out of tunnels thing? ;0

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM

On the Variety website, most of the commentary was sane. On THR, the commenters had already gone bat shit crazy.

southsideironworks on June 24, 2014 at 1:48 PM

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Wow, talk about a swing and a miss. Do you ever read any of these articles?

Bmore on June 24, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Wait, are people concerned that Mel Gibson has like, suffered or something? Isn’t he still a millionaire movie star who gets to do pretty much whatever he wants?

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM

You could make the same argument for Donald Sterling, since he’s still a billionaire, but I think having all of America hate your guts is “suffering” to some extent.

I don’t care much for Mel, either (listen to his voicemails, the guy’s a nutbar), but I’m also not a fan of blacklists.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Jack_Burton on June 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Right? It really should start reading the articles and links before commenting.

Bmore on June 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

What people forget about free speech is that it isn’t a one way speech. Mel Gibson said what he said, and the rest of the world is allowed to use their speech in response. They did. Unless the state was used to coerce Gibson into speaking things he didn’t believe, then all of this complaining about “PC” is just complaining about moving from having popular to unpopular opinions. Get over it. You don’t have a right to have a positive reception when you speak. The right has yet to figure this out.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Pretty f***ing well said.

Midas on June 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Wait, are people concerned that Mel Gibson has like, suffered or something? Isn’t he still a millionaire movie star who gets to do pretty much whatever he wants?

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM

It’s not about being concerned for Mel Gibson. I just hate the hypocrisy of Hollywood. The dude had a successful career in film for 30 years dating back to the original Mad Max and made untold hundreds of millions(if not billions) for movie studios, yet he’s been practically blacklisted at this point over a drunken tirade.

Meanwhile look at the crap that’s deemed perfectly acceptable by Hollywood with other actors and filmmakers whether it’s drug or alcohol abuse, domestic violence, etc.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Good luck cleaning up Playboy. You do realize you have to presume that in order to share the article source it has to be linked there. right?

Bmore on June 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM

I gotta say with my ad and script blockers the Playboy website has nothing but the article, the pictures of Oldman’s face and the Playboy logo that would probably sorely disappoint any guy looking over my shoulder.

TaraMaclay on June 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Jack_Burton on June 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

P.S. I’m pretty sure libfreeordie doesn’t look at the photos.

Bmore on June 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

As always, you remain a clueless f*ck..

Midas on June 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM

What about train engineers?

Link

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 1:39 PM

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Railroad videos will never go out of “vogue”.

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM

You could make the same argument for Donald Sterling,

Exactly. Sterling’s punishment was to make a bunch of money on the sale of his team. Boo hoo.

but I think having all of America hate your guts is “suffering” to some extent.

I’m sure it hurt his feelings somewhat to have everyone judge him. By no means is it a violation of first Amendment rights. Again, you don’t have a right to have popular opinions. “PC” is just being polite. If you are rude then people will call you rude. Life goes on.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM

TaraMaclay on June 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Exactly. There is just a bit of rear up in the air and some cleavage. HeIIfire you see more than that at the grocery store checkout these days. ; )

Bmore on June 24, 2014 at 1:53 PM

It’s been nice knowing you, Gary. I enjoyed your work. Good luck in your new endeavors.

Nomennovum on June 24, 2014 at 1:53 PM

What people forget about free speech is that it isn’t a one way speech. Mel Gibson said what he said, and the rest of the world is allowed to use their speech in response. They did.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

I don’t think blacklisting someone is quite the same as simply exercising one’s right to free speech. He’s literally being shunned from the business. Now there’s nothing technically illegal about that, but I don’t agree with it and I think it is hypocritical. And keep in mind that Gibson is not an isolated incident. There are many others in showbiz who are afraid of airing their views(and I don’t mean anti-Semitism, but just right-of-center opinions) out of fear of being denied work.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Watching steam engines meandering is like porn to my husband.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM

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Is it the going in and out of tunnels thing? ;0

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM

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You saw the episode of The Simpsons, too ?

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 1:54 PM

I wish I could upload the 10-15 second YouTube clip of “Dracula laughing” with Mr Oldman. I just loved reading some celebrity boards yesterday. The liberals adored this man. Now I do.

Marcus on June 24, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Wow. Morehouse awaits your brilliant insights little libby.

Bmore on June 24, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM

He’s an old school railroader.
I’m interested in historical train crashes.
Don’t judge me. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on June 24, 2014 at 1:55 PM

It’s not about being concerned for Mel Gibson. I just hate the hypocrisy of Hollywood.

OK.

The dude had a successful career in film for 30 years dating back to the original Mad Max and made untold hundreds of millions(if not billions) for movie studios, yet he’s been practically blacklisted at this point over a drunken tirade.

The same can be said about women actors who were popular in their youth, but lose roles as they age because the public wants to see young and beautiful women on screen. Something tells me you don’t care about that metric of public opinion. You don’t mind studios making calculated business decisions based on women’s looks. But it’s the “liberal PC brigade” that has ruined poor, defenseless, millionaire Mel Gibson. Won’t someone PLEASE think of Mel Gibson!??

Meanwhile look at the crap that’s deemed perfectly acceptable by Hollywood with other actors and filmmakers whether it’s drug or alcohol abuse, domestic violence, etc.
Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Those things, however bad, don’t seem to encourage the buying public to boycott films. These are business decisions. It’s a perfect illustration of your beloved free market. Deal.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Sure don’t disagree with him on Pelosi…

PatriotRider on June 24, 2014 at 1:55 PM

“PC” is just being polite. If you are rude then people will call you rude. Life goes on.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM

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B S . . . . . Barbra Streisand …
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“PC” is an attempt at making certain kinds of speech and thoughts against the law.

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 1:57 PM

ZORG – The 5th Element

One of my favorite Gary Oldman characters.

jake-the-goose on June 24, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Good stuff. He’s simply one of my favorites, hands down.

Midas on June 24, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Why does someone get heard just because they use words like f**king and C**t? I would be more impressed if the guy could speak the same thoughts in proper English. he is just more evidence of the debauchery of our society.

NOMOBO on June 24, 2014 at 1:57 PM

I’m sure it hurt his feelings somewhat to have everyone judge him. By no means is it a violation of first Amendment rights. Again, you don’t have a right to have popular opinions. “PC” is just being polite. If you are rude then people will call you rude. Life goes on.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Sterling is 84, there comes a point when you simply don’t care what people think about your views. Let’s be honest, a lot of money was thrown at Sterling to make him go away without having to disclose the terms of NBA team ownership in open court.

And political correctness is not about being polite. An illegal alien (that’s a legal status) has become un-PC in favor of terms like unauthorized migrants only to hide the fact that these worthless parasites are criminals.

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 1:58 PM

I don’t think blacklisting someone is quite the same as simply exercising one’s right to free speech.

Actually, according to recent conservative philosophy it is. If you recall, conservative ideology says that the expenditure of money is a constitutionally protected speech act. If a studio chooses to finance a film provided it does not star Mel Gibson, that’s a speech act. Deal.

He’s literally being shunned from the business.

A business where his only value to studios is the ability to attract an audience. If he’s ruined that by saying things people consider abhorrent, isn’t that his fault?

Now there’s nothing technically illegal about that, but I don’t agree with it and I think it is hypocritical.

Again, how is this anything but a business decision?

And keep in mind that Gibson is not an isolated incident. There are many others in showbiz who are afraid of airing their views(and I don’t mean anti-Semitism, but just right-of-center opinions) out of fear of being denied work.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Welcome to employment! Many Americans keep their political opinions to themselves at work, especially left leaning people who work in conservative corporations. I just don’t know what the problem is here.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:59 PM

I once suggested the same thing on a thread some years back and got a warning email from AP…

OmahaConservative on June 24, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Just use the acronym, which is . . . uhhh … nevermind.

Herod on June 24, 2014 at 2:00 PM

“PC” is an attempt at making certain kinds of speech and thoughts against the law.

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 1:57 PM

No. It’s not. Political correctness is merely the result of a popular shift towards multiculturalism and integrationism in American society. It’s a direct byproduct of the anti-Jim Crow movement, which was always as much about interpersonal interaction as it was about the law. Frankly, the greatest arbiters of “political correctness” are leaders in the *private sector* who have instituted rules for business conduct.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM

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He’s an old school railroader.
I’m interested in historical train crashes.
Don’t judge me. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on June 24, 2014 at 1:55 PM

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Nothing at all wrong with interest “in historical train crashes”.
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I’ve got the book called “Train Wrecks”, and it’s fairly common, so I wouldn’t be surprised if your husband has that book.

“1853, the year disasters began…”

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 2:02 PM

The same can be said about women actors who were popular in their youth, but lose roles as they age because the public wants to see young and beautiful women on screen. Something tells me you don’t care about that metric of public opinion. You don’t mind studios making calculated business decisions based on women’s looks. But it’s the “liberal PC brigade” that has ruined poor, defenseless, millionaire Mel Gibson. Won’t someone PLEASE think of Mel Gibson!??

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:55 PM

If an actress has talent and doesn’t butcher her face in a desperate attempt to remain young-looking, she can continue to find work as she ages. If you don’t believe me, ask Judi Dench, Meryl Streep, Helen Mirren, Jodie Foster, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, and Frances McDormand.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Get over it. You don’t have a right to have a positive reception when you speak. The right has yet to figure this out.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

You don’t have a right to not be offended.

You don’t have a right to force people to bake you a cake, or take your “wedding” photos.

Get over it.

Plus, let’s not act like the market was the one punishing Gibson. Apocalypto made $121 million at the box office.

Mel’s blacklisting would be just peachy, except that progressives still complain about the Hollywood 10, and that was almost 70 years ago. Which is it, libfree? Do personal beliefs have consequences, or only personal beliefs you disagree with? Are you okay with blacklists?

Good Solid B-Plus on June 24, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Wait, are people concerned that Mel Gibson has like, suffered or something? Isn’t he still a millionaire movie star who gets to do pretty much whatever he wants?

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Entire fleets of aircraft flyover your head without you noticing, don’t they? Not surprising considering the following.

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

NotCoach on June 24, 2014 at 2:04 PM

libfree — like a typical ignorant liberal — has confused the First Amendment with Free Speech. You don’t even know there’s a difference do you, Einstein? Ha! I’m not explaining it to you either — you’re too dumb to get it anyway. But I will say this:
The solution to speech you don’t like is MORE speech not shutting the “bad” speech up, acting as if it is a witchcraft (words so powerful when spoken they actually cause harm to another) and/or stripping another of his livelihood/ property.
You’re the hypocrite of whom Oldman speaks; luckily for you, you’re too stupid to know it; unfortunately that means the rest of us have to suffer.

Dark Star on June 24, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Why does someone get heard just because they use words like f**king and C**t? I would be more impressed if the guy could speak the same thoughts in proper English. he is just more evidence of the debauchery of our society.

NOMOBO on June 24, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Sorry but “f***ing useless c**t” nails Pelosi and is, in fact, proper English if a bit salty. Just because it isn’t rated G doesn’t mean it isn’t proper English. There are whole poems and books that would not be nearly as powerful if they were written for the delicate ears of folks like pajamaboy and Libfree.

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 2:05 PM

The same can be said about women actors who were popular in their youth, but lose roles as they age because the public wants to see young and beautiful women on screen. Something tells me you don’t care about that metric of public opinion. You don’t mind studios making calculated business decisions based on women’s looks. But it’s the “liberal PC brigade” that has ruined poor, defenseless, millionaire Mel Gibson. Won’t someone PLEASE think of Mel Gibson!??

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Yeah, look at all those roles going to Megan Fox than used to go to Meryl Streep.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 24, 2014 at 2:05 PM

No. It’s not. Political correctness is merely the result of a popular shift towards multiculturalism and integrationism in American society. It’s a direct byproduct of the anti-Jim Crow movement, which was always as much about interpersonal interaction as it was about the law. Frankly, the greatest arbiters of “political correctness” are leaders in the *private sector* who have instituted rules for business conduct.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 2:01 PM

That’s bullcrap. Political correctness at its inception may have been intended to encourage sensitivity and understanding, but it’s gone way past that over the last 25 years. Now if you merely make a political donation in support of a ballot measure that successfully passed in your own state, it can cost you your job. That’s not political correctness. That’s fascism.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 2:06 PM

You don’t have a right to not be offended.

Uh…sure

You don’t have a right to force people to bake you a cake, or take your “wedding” photos.

I agree.

Get over it.

I have…

Plus, let’s not act like the market was the one punishing Gibson. Apocalypto made $121 million at the box office.

I’m pretty sure conservative philosophy says none of us have the right to question where/in whom financiers invest.

Mel’s blacklisting would be just peachy, except that progressives still complain about the Hollywood 10, and that was almost 70 years ago. Which is it, libfree? Do personal beliefs have consequences, or only personal beliefs you disagree with? Are you okay with blacklists?

Blacklisting in the McCarthy Era occurred at the threat of federal investigation. Did that happen here?
Good Solid B-Plus on June 24, 2014 at 2:02 PM

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 2:07 PM

“PC” is an attempt at making certain kinds of speech and thoughts against the law.

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 1:57 PM

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No. It’s not. Political correctness is merely the result of a popular shift towards multiculturalism and integrationism in American society. It’s a direct byproduct of the anti-Jim Crow movement, which was always as much about interpersonal interaction as it was about the law. Frankly, the greatest arbiters of “political correctness” are leaders in the *private sector* who have instituted rules for business conduct.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 2:01 PM

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Private businessman who instituted, and practiced that, kept it in the context of “business” only.

Politicians who are demanding that all of us practice it in our daily walk of life, most certainly are trying to make “certain kinds of speech and thoughts against the law.”

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 2:07 PM

I liked the old days better when commies got blacklisted.

Flange on June 24, 2014 at 2:07 PM

If an actress has talent and doesn’t butcher her face in a desperate attempt to remain young-looking, she can continue to find work as she ages. If you don’t believe me, ask Judi Dench, Meryl Streep, Helen Mirren, Jodie Foster, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, and Frances McDormand.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 2:02 PM

True but they have to get through that awkward stage where they’re 40ish.

Happy Nomad on June 24, 2014 at 2:07 PM

MY HERO!!!

djl130 on June 24, 2014 at 2:08 PM

What people forget about free speech is that it isn’t a one way speech. Mel Gibson said what he said, and the rest of the world is allowed to use their speech in response. They did. Unless the state was used to coerce Gibson into speaking things he didn’t believe, then all of this complaining about “PC” is just complaining about moving from having popular to unpopular opinions. Get over it. You don’t have a right to have a positive reception when you speak. The right has yet to figure this out.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Typical leftie: utterly incapable of distinguishing between the right to free speech and the value or culture of free speech. Probably not even aware of this blindspot. But then we wouldnt expect anything different from braindead statists now, would we?

Red Widow on June 24, 2014 at 2:08 PM

As of this posting, the reaction to Oldman’s exceedingly honest interview has been muted.

Nobody reads Playboy.

Dusty on June 24, 2014 at 2:08 PM

No. It’s not. Political correctness is merely the result of a popular shift towards multiculturalism and integrationism in American society.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Wrong. It’s Neo-Puritanism, just from the left wing instead of the right wing. Nanny state censorship and suppression of speech is equally loathsome, whether it is targeting Henry Miller or Ann Coulter.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 24, 2014 at 2:09 PM

libfree — like a typical ignorant liberal — has confused the First Amendment with Free Speech.

Possibly the stupidest thing ever posted on HotAir. What do you think “free” even means? It’s about speech free from negative consequence from the state. That’s it.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Typical leftie: utterly incapable of distinguishing between the right to free speech and the value or culture of free speech

Translation: Mel Gibson shouldn’t be criticized when people don’t like his speech. Because their “free speech” is worse than his or something.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Wrong. It’s Neo-Puritanism, just from the left wing instead of the right wing.

True. When did this nation stop being puritanical again?

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 2:11 PM

No. It’s not. Political correctness is merely the result of a popular shift towards multiculturalism and integrationism in American society. It’s a direct byproduct of the anti-Jim Crow movement, which was always as much about interpersonal interaction as it was about the law.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Hold on, give me 10 minutes. No, I really don’t mean 10 months.

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

NotCoach on June 24, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Get over it. You don’t have a right to have a positive reception when you speak.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

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No problem there.
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The right has yet to figure this out.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

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More B S . . . . . Barbra Streisand…
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It’s the LEFT … who has yet to accept the reality of this.

listens2glenn on June 24, 2014 at 2:12 PM

You don’t have a right to have a positive reception when you speak. The right has yet to figure this out.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Neither has the left – and worse, the left applies their typical double standard to believe that THEY should be allowed to outlaw any speech that offends them.

dentarthurdent on June 24, 2014 at 2:12 PM

If an actress has talent and doesn’t butcher her face in a desperate attempt to remain young-looking, she can continue to find work as she ages. If you don’t believe me, ask Judi Dench, Meryl Streep, Helen Mirren, Jodie Foster, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, and Frances McDormand.

Doughboy on June 24, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Wow. Doughboy believes Hollywood has fair and objective standards when it comes to casting decisions. Wait sorry, when it comes to casting decisions about women! Hahahahahahahaha! I’m sorry I said that the earlier comment was the dumbest thing I’ve read on Hot Air.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 2:13 PM

The Hollywood cabal is not a free market business and they do not function entirely by giving their customers what they want.

For instance, every time a low budget independent movie with a religious or pro-military message is made, it makes tens of millions of dollars.

Those movies are not made by the big studios, which means their cultural messaging is more important than profit, and they feel us rubes in flyover country can take our money and shove it.

TaraMaclay on June 24, 2014 at 2:13 PM

More B S . . . . . Barbra Streisand…
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It’s the LEFT … who has yet to accept the reality of this.

Calling me Barbra Streisand as an insult? What is this, 1992?

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 2:14 PM

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