Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on June 22, 2014 by Allahpundit

President Obama said the Sunni militants that have taken over parts of northern Iraq pose a “medium- and long-term threat” to the U.S. because of their extreme ideology, although other groups probably have more advanced immediate plans to attack U.S…

“I think it’s important for us to recognize that ISIS is just one of a number of organizations that we have to stay focused on,” Mr. Obama said, noting that groups like al Qaeda and Boko Haram, the group that kidnapped hundreds of young women in Nigeria, are still active.

“This is going to be a global challenge and one that the United States is going to have to address but we’re not going to be able to address it alone. And as I said yesterday, what we can’t do is think that we’re just going to play whack-a-mole and send U.S. troops occupying various countries wherever these organizations pop up,” the president said. “We’re going to have to have a more focused, more targeted strategy and we’re going to have to partner and train local law enforcement and military to do their jobs as well.”

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Sen. Barbara Boxer on Sunday blasted former Vice President Dick Cheney’s criticism of the Obama administration over Iraq as “sick.”…

Boxer, who stressed she supports the “counterterrorism mission” in Iraq, says there’s no appetite for too muscular of a military involvement after America’s long war there.

“The American people don’t want it, the president doesn’t want it, the saner voices in the Senate and the House don’t want it,” she said. “We do have a national security interest in preventing another 9/11. The Iraqis had their chance. They blew it. And I think right now they have got to figure out if they can form an inclusive government.”

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“If we were to get rid of Assad, it would be a Jihadist wonderland in Syria,” the Kentucky Republican said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “It’s now a Jihadist wonderland in Iraq precisely because we got over involved not because we had too little involvement.”

Paul also said he doesn’t believe the Sunni Muslim fighters, known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, who are advancing toward Baghdad, pose an immediate threat to the United States.

“It could at some point,” he said. “Right now, if you’re a member of ISIS, you’re looking at the Shi’ites right in front of you in the battles you are fighting. I don’t believe ISIS is, in the middle of a fight right now, thinking, ‘Hmm we should send intercontinental missiles to America.’”

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“Rand Paul, with all due respect, is basically an isolationist,” Cheney shot back. “He doesn’t believe we ought to be involved in that part of the world. I think it’s absolutely essential. One of the things I worried about 12 years ago – and that I worry about today – is that there will be another 9/11 attack and that the next time it’ll be with weapons far deadlier than airline tickets and box cutters.”…

He argued that the Obama administration is “still living back in the day when they claimed we got bin Laden, the terrorism problem is solved. That wasn’t true then. It’s even less true today. The threat is bigger than it’s ever been.”

Asked about what he would recommend, Cheney argued for a broad-based approach to unrest in the region and also called for bolstering moderates in Syria, the scene of another civil war with ties to the unrest in Iraq. But he also acknowledged that “at this point, there are no good, easy answers in Iraq,” something he blamed squarely on the administration.

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Pressed on what specific actions he supports, Rubio urged a severing of supply lines between Syria – home to another civil war – and Iraq; bolstering “moderate rebel forces in Syria,” and more security for nearby Jordan. He also argued that Iran should not be allowed to gain a stronghold in Iraq, pushing back on Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who recently questioned whether the U.S. runs the risk of becoming Iran’s “air force” with miscalculated involvement.

“I don’t agree with that statement, I think that’s quite an exaggeration,” Rubio said. “The truth of the matter is, if we do nothing, Iran is still going to be involved…if Iran goes in there and becomes involved, and somehow helps the Iraqis turn back ISIS, you can rest assured that a future Iraqi government will be completely, 100 percent under the influence and in the pocket of Iran.”

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Via MFP.


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20 seconds to the round of 16 – just 20 seconds…….

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Paul / Cruz!

Skipity on June 22, 2014 at 8:04 PM

http://pjmedia.com/blog/8-signs-that-isis-will-strike-in-the-u-s-soon/?singlepage=true

but right now let them all kill each other then when they decide who’s the boss there we should kill that group.

dmacleo on June 22, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Paul / Cruz!

Skipity on June 22, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Yoohoo – 2 members of our valued Congress – just what the nation needs.

NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:06 PM

20 seconds to long…

Barred on June 22, 2014 at 8:06 PM

What? Hillary has a bad heart (yeah, plenty of jokes), the Telegraph claims global warming data has been faked and we get this for QOTD?

cozmo on June 22, 2014 at 8:06 PM

ObamaCare’s Model

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Hawks and doves

Lie.

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Ok – Rand Paul – Marco Rubio – Dick Cheney – and Ted Cruz

4 for naught

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:07 PM

blah blah blah! it’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on June 22, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Paul / Cruz!
Skipity on June 22, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Bush/Christie!!! Yeah!!!!

Brock Robamney on June 22, 2014 at 8:08 PM

F**k CR7!!

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:09 PM

I see Israel is laying down the law once again.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Keeping the liberal [aka, "neocon"] world order

By “neocons,” I refer to followers of the hawkish foreign policy school that began to coalesce in the 1970s around New York writers and academics who had rejected their Communist or Socialist lodestar to become vocal anti-Communists. A generation or so later, from Kosovo to Georgia, from Afghanistan to Iraq, from Libya to Syria, from Ukraine and now back to Iraq, they consistently advocate the use of American power, often American troops, to establish and enforce a “liberal world order.”

By “going home,” I mean returning to the Democratic Party.

After 9/11, the more I learned about Islam, the less I supported the Bush-Obama nation-building counterinsurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan — high-water marks of neoconservative influence on the direction of U.S. policy and war strategy. We haven’t recovered yet.

At its root, the conceptual strategy behind these wars was driven by the universalist and globalist impulse that denies differences among peoples, religions, tribes, nations, societies of all kinds, as an ideological fundamental to justify the measures required to impose order — the “new world order” President George H.W. Bush talked about, and the “liberal world order” Kagan now discusses. It helps explain why President George W. Bush could plant empty ballot boxes in Islamic Iraq and expect the Bill of Rights and other fruits of Graeco-Roman-Judeo-Christian millennia to grow. I refer, of course, to the calamitous “democracy project” neoconservatives became particularly infamous for driving, which, since 9/11, has only made the world safe for sharia.

But about neocons possibly “going home” to the Democratic Party. The Times reports: “Both Mr. Kagan and his brother are taking considerable pains to describe their advocacy as broadly bipartisan. ‘The urgent priority is to unite internationalists on both sides of the spectrum,’ said Fred Kagan, while his brother, Robert, mentioned his briefing of a bipartisan congressional delegation at Davos and his good relations with top White House officials, including the national security adviser, Susan E. Rice.”

Davos? Susan E. Rice? Why not Samantha Power and Valerie Jarrett while we’re at it? Internationalists of the world, unite! These are odd selling points — unless you’re seeking Democrat brownie points. I suppose the Republican Party is no longer so hospitable to “interventionism,” and about time. Would that the GOP rouse itself one last time to intervene in a real national security crisis — on the broken U.S. border.

The Times continues: “But Exhibit A for what Robert Kagan describes as his ‘mainstream’ view of American force is his relationship with former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who remains the vessel into which many interventionists are pouring their hopes.”

Do I hear an SOS? “Shipwrecked neocons seeking vessel to pour interventionist hopes into. Will deploy troops anywhere.”
The Times: “Mr. Kagan pointed out that he had recently attended a dinner of foreign-policy experts at which Mrs. Clinton was the guest of honor, and that he had served on her bipartisan group of foreign-policy heavy hitters at the State Department, where his wife worked as her spokeswoman. ‘I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy,’ Mr. Kagan said, adding that the next step after Mr. Obama’s more realist approach ‘could theoretically be whatever Hillary brings to the table’ if elected president.”

Lost Whitewater files maybe? A Muslim Brotherhood Rolodex? The truth about Benghazi? Nah.

“‘If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue,’ he added, ‘it’s something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else.”

How about calling it “liberal interventionism”? I can see it now: A new ship of state under Hillary Clinton sailing home, carrying a crew of neocons-turned-liberal-interventionists.
And The New York Times will find it all Cocoa-Puffs charming.

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Still a good result – we will go through. Just have to wait.

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Asked about what he would recommend, Cheney argued for a broad-based approach to unrest in the region and also called for bolstering moderates in Syria

Unicorn Hunt!

William Eaton on June 22, 2014 at 8:10 PM

What? Hillary has a bad heart (yeah, plenty of jokes), the Telegraph claims global warming data has been faked and we get this for QOTD?

cozmo on June 22, 2014 at 8:06 PM


HURSH!

(First spoken by a female friend 40 years ago. Translation: “Hush or I’ll hurt you!”)

You’re forgetting the horror of unending Christie and gay marriage threads!

PolAgnostic on June 22, 2014 at 8:11 PM

carson/Cain Yeah!

Huckabee/Santorum Yeah! Yeah!

Palin/Gingrich yeah! yeah! yeah!

coolrepublica on June 22, 2014 at 8:12 PM

As far as Rand Paul, when he gets involved in talking foreign policy, I just don’t know. And his recent move to support amnesty? Paul brings up amnesty just after Cantor was rejected by the base… because of amnesty! And just after these hordes of illegals are flooding across the open borders. I mean, at least Paul could have thought ‘now isn’t the time’ to bring up amnesty. But no. Shakes head.

anotherJoe on June 22, 2014 at 8:12 PM

20 seconds to the round of 16 – just 20 seconds…….

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:04 PM

20 seconds to long…

Barred on June 22, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Still a good result – we will go through. Just have to wait.

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Delayed but not out!

22044 on June 22, 2014 at 8:14 PM

blah blah blah! it’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on June 22, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Exactly!

anotherJoe on June 22, 2014 at 8:14 PM

I don’t know.

wolly4321 on June 22, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Delayed but not out!

22044 on June 22, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Our best numbers are GF/GA – may save us. Germany is a monster – but we are tough to beat.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:15 PM

You’re forgetting the horror of unending Christie and gay marriage threads!

PolAgnostic on June 22, 2014 at 8:11 PM

I didn’t forget those, I ignored them.

cozmo on June 22, 2014 at 8:16 PM

We better get a winning team together. This country will cease to exist with 4 more years of a liberal in the White House.

hawkdriver on June 22, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Sen. Paul. Tell me exactly when the Germans became a threat to the US in WWII?

BigAlSouth on June 22, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Our best numbers are GF/GA – may save us. Germany is a monster – but we are tough to beat.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:15 PM

We have a 2 GD advantage over Ghana and 4 over Portugal. They won’t catch us.

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:20 PM

“Rand Paul, with all due respect, is basically an isolationist,” Cheney shot back. “He doesn’t believe we ought to be involved in that part of the world. I think it’s absolutely essential. One of the things I worried about 12 years ago – and that I worry about today – is that there will be another 9/11 attack and that the next time it’ll be with weapons far deadlier than airline tickets and box cutters.”…

Oh look at the pantsless draft dodger waving the bloody shirt. F U Cheney.

BTW, Alexis de Tocqueville also says FU Cheney.

No protracted war can fail to endanger the freedom of a democratic country. War does not always give over democratic communities to military government, but it must invariably and immeasurably increase the powers of civil government; it must almost compulsorily concentrate the direction of all men and the management of all things in the hands of the administration. If it does not lead to despotism by sudden violence, it prepares men for it more gently by their habits. All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and the shortest means to accomplish it. This is the first axiom of the science.- Alexis de Tocqueville

BTW2, Ronald Reagan also says FU Cheney.

1. The United States should not commit its forces to military action overseas unless the cause is vital to our national interest.

2. If the decision is made to commit our forces to combat abroad, it must be done with the clear intent and support needed to win. It should not be a halfway or tentative commitment, and there must be clearly defined and realistic objectives.

3. Before we commit our troops to combat, there must be reasonable assurance that the cause we are fighting for and the actions we take will have the support of the American people and Congress.

4. Even after all these other tests are met, our troops should be committed to combat abroad only as a last resort, when no other choice is available.
- Ronald Reagan

BTW3, Sun Tzu also says FU Cheney.

Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent (Iraq and Afghanistan), other chieftains (Russia and China) will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue. - Sun Tzu

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Rand Paul is a solid representation of The Congress.

He has all attributes, for having a long congressional career.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:21 PM

“I think it’s important for us to recognize that ISIS is just one of a number of organizations that we have to stay focused on,” Mr. Obama said, noting that groups like al Qaeda and Boko Haram, the group that kidnapped hundreds of young women in Nigeria, are still active.

Hmm, well first, horse, gate, too f@cking late, genius.

Second, hmm, which one is overrunning entire countries?

I’m embarrassed … absolutely embarrassed at this idiot.

hawkdriver on June 22, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Paul asked today for people to define amnesty.

Is anything short of “track down and deport all illegals” considered Amnesty around here?

How about if we allowed illegals to all file for work visas to pay taxes while securing out boarder: is that Amnesty?

Because IMHO, what we have now is Amnesty by default.

Doing nothing on immigration / not securing our boarders, to me, is Amnesty.

Skipity on June 22, 2014 at 8:23 PM

We better get a winning team together. This country will cease to exist with 4 more years of a liberal in the White House.

hawkdriver on June 22, 2014 at 8:18 PM

You’re more optimistic than me, Hawk.

I expect the next two years to be cumulatively worse than the past six and the overall damage done to be, most likely, unrecoverable.

[I think the fix is in and the Dems will get indefinite POTUS electoral wins via illegal alien voting and other voter fraud ...]

I hope we’re both wrong …

ShainS on June 22, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Skipity on June 22, 2014 at 8:23 PM

How about enforcing the laws we currently have on the books?

Barred on June 22, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Doing nothing on immigration / not securing our boarders, to me, is Amnesty.

Skipity on June 22, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Dude, you’re for amnesty. You want Paul so badly, you’re for amnesty.

hawkdriver on June 22, 2014 at 8:26 PM

How about enforcing the laws we currently have on the books?

Barred on June 22, 2014 at 8:25 PM

With over 1,800 laws on immigration – that refrain – while understandable – is no longer possible – for anyone.

But,, we must not talk about immigration reform – only amnesty.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:27 PM

And now Israel is striking targets in Syria and obama doesn’t even know if they’re attacking the Rebels or Government.

hawkdriver on June 22, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Because IMHO, what we have now is Amnesty by default.

Doing nothing on immigration / not securing our boarders, to me, is Amnesty.

Skipity on June 22, 2014 at 8:23 PM

No it’s not. Just say that you’re for allowing the illegals to stay.

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:30 PM

“I think it’s important for us to recognize that ISIS is just one of a number of organizations that we have to stay focused on,” Mr. Obama said, noting that groups like al Qaeda and Boko Haram, the group that kidnapped hundreds of young women in Nigeria, are still active.

Correct. The Muslim Brotherhood is another. And then there is CAIR. And then, most importantly, all of Islam.

If one goes to a Muslim country, he/she must abide by Muslim rules and practices or Muslims will get offended and see his/her murder as justified. But if Muslims come to your country, you must abide by Muslim rules and practices or Muslims will get offended and see your murder as justified.

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:30 PM

But,, we must not talk about immigration reform – only amnesty.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:27 PM

What does “immigration reform” mean?

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Those who expect those who have come to this nation willfully shattering federal immigration law, state law, and any law that they find inconvenient to suddenly comply with the law and apply for a work visa and pay taxes are deluding themselves.

Criminals don’t suddenly decide to become model citizens, particularly if they have zero incentive for doing so and are being handsomely rewarded for being a criminal.

Enforcement of the law, vigorously and consistently, is the only way to stop the influx of criminals preying on the communities and resources of American citizens and legal immigrants.

White House Admits ‘Rumors’ of Amnesty Motivating Illegal Border Crossings

I define AMNESTY the same way illegal aliens define AMNESTY. They shatter US federal immigration law, defying the rule of law and trampling the rights of citizens and legal immigrants, but get to have their way and stay in this nation. That’s AMNESTY, by anyone’s definition.

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 8:33 PM

What does “immigration reform” mean?

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:31 PM

It means we need to pass new laws because we refuse to enforce existing laws …

/Brilliant

ShainS on June 22, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Who won the soccer match? I was tuning in occasionally and then I went there and they were talking about baseball.

crankyoldlady on June 22, 2014 at 8:34 PM

What does “immigration reform” mean?

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:31 PM

I will take a short shot at my own answer – but first – I swear to you – I have ZERO interest in amnesty:

The visa programs we have now, which is btw – mostly a manual paper based operation. In high-skilled industries such as engineering and medicine, we do not have the talent we need to fill the jobs. Like it or not – our colleges are simply not turning out enough engineers – doctors – scientists.

Visa limits for seasonal workers, such as those needed by farmers, cannot keep up with demand. If you don’t believe me, ask California farmers and ranchers.

The visas that are available are too cumbersome, complex and cost prohibitive for many employers to use. That means fewer fruits and vegetables per season, lost revenue and an increased reliance on imports, many of which are not subject to the same level of health regulations as our homegrown crops.

Go to the grocery store – look carefully at where all the produce is now coming from. By instituting worker visa programs that adequately address our farm labor demands, we can keep American agriculture strong. Prices are soaring.

We have no visa allowances for entrepreneurs, the most innovative people around the world are starting companies and creating jobs elsewhere. Meanwhile, other countries understand that entrepreneurs are an economic necessity. While we actively turn away future CEOs, the rest of the world is offering incentives to attract new businesses.

I have never – ever – advocated Amnesty – but watch what people call me in 5. 4. 3, 2,,,,,

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:34 PM

And now Israel is striking targets in Syria and obama doesn’t even know if they’re attacking the Rebels or Government.

hawkdriver on June 22, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Reports are that they attack the government’s troops even though they don’t know if it was government troops that attack them or “the rebels” who attack them. Obama can probably relate to that aspect anyway.

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:34 PM

I hope we’re both wrong …

ShainS on June 22, 2014 at 8:25 PM

I dunno. Our side at least started carping at our leaders when we thought they were screwing up. Liberals back down from nothing they do. Obamacare is the greatest failure of illegal legislation in my lifetime and they still get a pass in the media and swear they’ll run on it in the Fall.

They nearly tore this country in half opposing OEF and OIF for the sole purpose of destroying George Bush but now they can’t be bothered with anti-war sentiments. I guess all the innocent Iraqis they bemoaned being hurt when GWB was CinC missed the sympathy cut under obama.

I guess beerrock can start as many wars as he wants. A liberal went to Iraq to be Saddam Hussein’s defense attorney. Liberals laughed when Ghadaffi was executed in the street and said he deserved it.

obama is responsible for over 200K deaths in Syria.

Peace March anyone?

Anyone?

hawkdriver on June 22, 2014 at 8:35 PM

What does “immigration reform” mean?

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:31 PM

It means the Chamber of Crony Capitalism and Serf Labor wins big and you get further scroomed.

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:36 PM

hawkdriver on June 22, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Reports are that they attack the government’s troops even though they don’t know if it was government troops that attack them or “the rebels” who attack them. Obama can probably relate to that aspect anyway.

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:34 PM

That only helps ISIS more.

hawkdriver on June 22, 2014 at 8:37 PM

It means the Chamber of Crony Capitalism and Serf Labor wins big and you get further scroomed.

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:36 PM

I think for most people – Immigration Reform – means whatever their own life experiences permit as their first inclination/thought.

For many – maybe most – it does mean Amnesty – for some – it has noting to do with Amnesty – but that linkage is probably impossible to break today.

We’re stuck for now – but that’s not all bad – considering the alternatives.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM

This IT Worker Had To Train His Own H1B Replacement

Tech companies are hiring H1B workers to replace existing tech workers of all ages for one reason: they can pay them a fraction of what they’d have to pay an American to do the same job.

Americans are becoming unemployed because corporations are more interested in the stockholder’s profit margin than in hiring and retaining American workers, even right here in the United States.

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Skipity on June 22, 2014 at 8:23 PM

That’s the lesson you take from this crisis at the border? This mass run on the border should result in more work visas?

Doing nothing on immigration / not securing our boarders, to me, is Amnesty.

That talking point died with most sane people after this last month. Obviously your version of amnesty is going to be a lot rougher for the country than the current status quo. If what is happening now doesn’t open your eyes then … whatever.

How about we secure the border (more than it is) and hold off on your, the DEms, CNN, Adelson’s and some HA’s blogger’s grand immigration schemes for a bit.

It’s like these fools think it’s all gravy in the USA right now. Put some “immigrants” up in your own d*mn home first before you come telling the rest of us to make more room.

BoxHead1 on June 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM

BTW where are the articles here about the crisis?

BoxHead1 on June 22, 2014 at 8:40 PM

While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him.
- John Quincy Adams

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:40 PM

USA tied Portugal 2-2. They were really close to winning with 5 minutes on the clock when the Portuguese scored to tie it.

The Germans are next.

coolrepublica on June 22, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Americans are becoming unemployed because corporations are more interested in the stockholder’s profit margin than in hiring and retaining American workers, even right here in the United States.

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Corporations interested in profits and share holder value.

You mean – right here in the USA? Good lord – I cannot imagine.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:41 PM

The Germans are next.

coolrepublica on June 22, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Thanks cr.

crankyoldlady on June 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Did Portugal get their usual red card?

viking01 on June 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Anyone want to go camping down at Organpipe National Monument?

wolly4321 on June 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Did you toddle all the way over here to knock on my door just to be rude?

Save your childish sarcasm. It’s wasted on adults.

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 8:44 PM

That only helps ISIS more.

hawkdriver on June 22, 2014 at 8:37 PM

It would certainly seem so. The Israelis declared some time ago that they would hold Assad responsible for any attacks coming from Syria and apparently that’s more important to them. To me, it doesn’t seem all that bright especially now.

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Thanks cr.

crankyoldlady on June 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

No problema.

coolrepublica on June 22, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Save your childish sarcasm. It’s wasted on adults.

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Sorry Dad – didn’t realize you were my elder along with a being a master of business intellect.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:47 PM

I have never – ever – advocated Amnesty – but watch what people call me in 5. 4. 3, 2,,,,,

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:34 PM

That sounds good. But I don’t think that’s what the pols mean when they use that term. They mean a process that will make allow the illegals to stay here legally and eventually get citizenship.

I’m not for rounding them all up and deporting them because it would take a huge police state to do that – if it could be done at all.

I think they will leave if we increase legal immigration and enforce e-verify and enforce welfare eligibility rules. We should at least try that.

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:50 PM

When Obama focuses like a laser on something usually a train wreck ensues with collateral damage and death on a chernobl meltdown Anthrax hindenburg iceberg Titanic scale.

Parmenides on June 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Did Portugal get their usual red card?

viking01 on June 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

No. Should have been given a few yellows for diving, though.

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:47 PM

I’m not your father. Interesting that you admit you don’t know who is, though.

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:50 PM

You’re post is perfectly reasonable.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Anyone want to go camping down at Organpipe National Monument?

wolly4321 on June 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

I actually did that once. In the 70′s. Unarmed. Used to be a beautiful place.

Shay on June 22, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Why aren’t the American people in a touches and pitchforks uproar that the Imperial City DC Establishment cares far more about Iraq’s sovereignty than our own?

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:53 PM

I’m not your father.

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

The TSE is now open – I just send my broker an email and told him to avoid any company making money – being profitable – or maximizing shareholder value.

Easy street here I come.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:54 PM

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

ouch

jaime on June 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Americans are becoming unemployed because corporations are more interested in the stockholder’s profit margin than in hiring and retaining American workers, even right here in the United States.

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Well said as always. But I don’t see how we can stop them from doing that without creating worse problems. Open to ideas, though :)

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Why aren’t the American people in a touches and pitchforks uproar that the Imperial City DC Establishment cares far more about Iraq’s sovereignty than our own?

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Now that is a wise question. I am going to repeat it – well said.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:41 PM

They are interested in short term profits at the expense of long term shareholder value. It’s what beancounters do to make themselves look good. Visionaries create sustained long term growth. They don’t layoff people just to make one quarter look good.

Parmenides on June 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

That Rand Paul cares little about Iraq’s sovereignty/borders doesn’t bother me, but that he seems to care so little about America’s does.

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him.
- John Quincy Adams

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:40 PM

That JQA sounds like a hateful, anti-Islamic bigot who doesn’t believe in “freedom of religion,” doesn’t he? Seize him, or his buried body if need be!

non-nonpartisan on June 22, 2014 at 8:56 PM

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:54 PM

She’s a she. Not your father. And you should show respect.

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Ratso!

OmahaConservative on June 22, 2014 at 8:58 PM

And you should show respect.

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I always show respect – when it is earned through sound thinking.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:58 PM

No. Should have been given a few yellows for diving, though.

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

The WSJ had an article about the England / Portugal game with the Portugal red card for headbutting which stated that in their 15 World Cup games since whenever Portugal has managed 6 red cards.

viking01 on June 22, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Is Hagfish here?

OmahaConservative on June 22, 2014 at 8:58 PM

That Rand Paul cares little about Iraq’s sovereignty/borders doesn’t bother me, but that he seems to care so little about America’s does.

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

That would be my issue with him as well.

green bean on June 22, 2014 at 8:59 PM

This nation currently admits over 1 million legal immigrants per year. About 750,000 regular immigrants through the normal legal immigration system, and about 250,000 asylum seekers and refugees ( this figure varies year to year).

The United States already has one of the most generous immigration systems in the world.

The United States is also one of only two developed nations remaining in the world that still grants automatic ‘birthright citizenship’ to the children of foreign citizens.

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Why aren’t the American people in a touches and pitchforks uproar that the Imperial City DC Establishment cares far more about Iraq’s sovereignty than our own?

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Because we can still vote them out. See Eric Cantor.

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 9:00 PM

she said. “We do have a national security interest in preventing another 9/11.

and Babs Thong continued ” we need to keep our borders open so that anyone who can swim, walk , crawl , fly , drive or ride can bust into our country anytime all the times always . We shouldn’t drill for our own oil either , for precisely the same reason, we have to to prevent another 9/11 2001, although I luved 9/11 2012″

burrata on June 22, 2014 at 9:00 PM

VorDaj on June 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

green bean on June 22, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Rand Paul just doesn’t strike me as a being “fully baked”

Some things he says are great – and then he will wonder off the reservation – sort of speak.

He needs time.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 9:01 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/10918607/How-US-and-Britain-were-warned-of-Isis-advance-in-Iraq-but-turned-a-deaf-ear.html

“Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is now something bin Laden could only dream of being,” Mr Bahjat said. “The sleep of reason produces monsters. It’s the lack of resolve in the West that is the most important thing.
Reason has been sleeping and now we have lots of monsters.”
The Kurds officially cannot appeal for more arms to defend themselves except through the federal government, but Mr Talabani said more could have been done.
“I have completely lost hope in America after listening to President Barack Obama,” Mr Talabani said. “I blame him personally for what has happened in Syria, in the Middle East, in Iraq at the moment. I have no hope any more.

can_con on June 22, 2014 at 9:01 PM

CEOs that lack imagination resort to draconian tactics to milk the last dime out of a balance sheet. It’s because they got nothing else going on upstairs in their MBA brains.

The financial statement looks good for a while and then the damage they do manifests itself.

Parmenides on June 22, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Corporations interested in profits and share holder value.

You mean – right here in the USA? Good lord – I cannot imagine.

jake-the-goose on June 22, 2014 at 8:41 PM

So your point, as it is delineated here, is that it’s ok for business to do whatever it wants to lower labor costs in the name of improved profits.

As you have not put any limits on your position, we can assume you approve of child labor, illegal immigration, and slavery as valid forms of profit maximization for businesses.

jaime on June 22, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Sorry I’m late.

KCB on June 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Is Hagfish here?

OmahaConservative on June 22, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Don’t ask me. It wasn’t my turn to watch the brain damaged multiple personality troll.

There does appear to be some short tempers tonight though.

cozmo on June 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM

The United States already has one of the most generous immigration systems in the world.

The United States is also one of only two developed nations remaining in the world that still grants automatic ‘birthright citizenship’ to the children of foreign citizens.

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Generous but not smart. I think we should allow more temporary, seasonal workers. If we had a gov’t we could trust to enforce the “temporary” part of that.

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 9:04 PM

kcewa on June 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Make it just as expensive to employ an H1B visa holder as it is to employ an American.

Fair competition for available jobs.

Currently, companies choose to fire existing personnel in order to take advantage of the cost break available in hiring H1B visa holders whom they can employ for a fraction of the cost of an American employee.

If the company had to pay as much for foreign labor as they do for American labor the incentive to hire foreign labor would be gone.

The good will and publicity generated by hiring Americans would be a bonus for stockholders.

thatsafactjack on June 22, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Liberty’s Torch

You cannot vote the Revolution.
You cannot buy the Revolution.
You can only be the Revolution.
If the torch of freedom doesn’t burn in your heart, it is nowhere.

Saturday, June 21, 2014

Declarations Of War

In the absence of such a declaration, no one can relax; once the lead starts to fly, every nation on Earth, and all of Mankind, are potentially at risk.

The best we can do today, if we’d like some assurance that our carcasses won’t be among the ones dragged away by the bulldozers, is to assess the available data continuously, as carefully and critically as possible. So let’s have a look at some of the most recent developments in that light.

http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2014/06/declarations-of-war.html

davidk on June 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM

jaime on June 22, 2014 at 9:02 PM

whoa….elizabeth warren on line 1. She wants her strawmen back! ;)

can_con on June 22, 2014 at 9:06 PM

KCB on June 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Its Ok Ken. Did you get the Justin Bieber tickets for Axe? Hehe

Parmenides on June 22, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Don’t ask me. It wasn’t my turn to watch the brain damaged multiple personality troll.

There does appear to be some short tempers tonight though.

cozmo on June 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Whose turn is it to watch the brain-damaged troll?

Judge_Dredd on June 22, 2014 at 9:07 PM

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