Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on June 21, 2014 by Allahpundit

Amid growing signs of instability in Iraq, President Barack Obama authorized a secret plan late last year to aid Iraqi troops in their fight against Sunni extremists by sharing intelligence on the militants’ desert encampments, but devoted only a handful of U.S. specialists to the task…

Instead of providing Iraqis with real-time drone feeds and intercepted communications from the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, the militant group that has overrun parts of Iraq, U.S. intelligence specialists typically gave their Iraqi counterparts limited photographic images, reflecting U.S. concerns that more sensitive data would end up in Iranian hands, these officials said…

Administration and congressional officials say the U.S. also miscalculated the readiness of Iraqi forces: The White House’s limited investment in the intelligence center was driven at least in part by the assumption that Iraqi forces would be more competent, the official said. Then, at the end of April, the Pentagon dispatched a team of special-operations personnel to assess the capabilities of Iraq’s security forces, a defense official said.

The assessment they brought back was bleak: Sunni Army officers had been forced out, overall leadership had declined, the Iraqi military wasn’t maintaining its equipment and had stopped conducting rigorous training. The response in Washington, summed up by a senior U.S. official, was: “Whoa, what the hell happened here?”

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A new ISIS propaganda video that drew attention Friday for featuring English-speaking jihadists is a carefully crafted message meant to demonstrate the group’s popularity and strength, experts tell NBC News.

In the video, at least five fighters sit in a wooded area, with the black flag of ISIS planted in the ground behind them. Three of the fighters speak to the camera, all of them speaking English.

“We have brothers from Bangladesh, from Iraq, from Cambodia, Australia, UK,” says one fighter, who is identified as British.

“All my brothers, come to jihad,” says another fighter, who is also identified as British. “Feel the honor we are feeling, feel the happiness that we are feeling.”

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Its extortion rackets in Mosul netted as much as $8 million a month, according to Gen. Mahdi Gharawi, until recently the Nineveh Province police commander, in an interview with Niqash, an Arabic-language news website. And that was even the ISIS insurgents took over. Once in charge, they typically levy “taxes,” which are just as lucrative. So-called road taxes of $200 on trucks are collected all over northern Iraq to allow them safe passage. The Iraqi government claims that the insurgents are now levying a “tax” on Christians in Mosul, who were a significant minority there, to avoid being crucified…

A member of the board of governors of the Central Bank of Iraq was reluctant to specify how much ISIS got away with in Mosul, but estimated that it at least $85 million and possibly much more

“ISIS gets some money from outside donors, but that pales in comparison to their self-funding,” said an American counterterrorism official. “The overwhelming majority of its money comes from criminal activities like extortion, kidnapping, robberies and smuggling. In Mosul, ISIS has probably been hauling in several million dollars monthly just from its extortion racket. In overrunning the town the group is better off financially, but probably to the tune of millions — not hundreds of millions — of dollars.”…

The militant group has so much cash that it has reopened some of the banks it looted in Falluja, in Anbar Province, to stash it in.

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As Iraq spirals into chaos, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is now relying on the militias, which once carried out hundreds of attacks on U.S. soldiers, to help him cling to power

“Potentially what this could amount to is the U.S. arming or advising Iranian proxies, some of which are on the terror list,” said Phillip Smyth, a researcher at the University of Maryland specializing in Shiite Islamist groups…

While most disbanded, some groups, such as the Iran-backed Asaib Ahl al-Haq and Kitaeb Hezbollah, which is designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, have remained active since the U.S. withdrawal and have slowly built their presence in the security forces for years. Smyth described their infiltration as “systemic,” raising the possibility that U.S. advisers might soon be working alongside militiamen who once fought them…

While Sadr’s followers are in the process of organizing, Asaib Ahl al-Haq, which killed and kidnapped numerous American soldiers before the U.S. withdrawal, says it is already actively working within the security forces. The ISIS advance has only strengthened that role, members said.

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In the months before the fall of Mosul, scores of Sunnis turned up dead in Baghdad, victims of mass executions. Hundreds of families moved out of their homes in Diyala province due to intimidation. The government has been complicit: Iran-backed militias are now reporting to a special division of Maliki’s office, and in some cases, they are conducting joint operations with government forces. The abuses have apparently escalated recently. For example, on Tuesday in Baquba, the capital of Diyala, 44 Sunni prisoners were found dead in a government-controlled prison with bullet holes in their heads.

Quds Force leaders might not be ordering these atrocities directly, but they do appear to take a “boys will be boys” attitude toward horrific violence. As long as they do, it’s difficult to imagine that any Sunni leader will be eager to collaborate with a government that also partners with sectarian killers…

There’s no guarantee the U.S. can wield enough leverage to affect Iran’s behavior, or that Iran exerts enough control over the militias to calm the sectarian frenzy. For this reason, Obama appears disinclined to order air strikes unless the conditions exist for political progress. The nightmare scenario is that the U.S. could find itself bombing Sunni-majority cities while Shia militias run rampant through Baghdad. The war would become increasingly sectarian, with America taking sides. Any military victory would be fleeting. ISIS would no longer need to produce propaganda videos, because the atrocities reported on CNN would be enough to radicalize the next generation of jihadis.

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If the oil we need is truly endangered, and this tips us into a new recession . . .

If daily we see shootings and beheadings of people who bravely and kindly stood with us during the war . . .

All that will have a grinding, embittering effect on the public mood. And if some mad group of jihadists, when their bloody work in Iraq is finished, decide to bring their efforts once again to an American city—well then, obviously, all bets will be off.

But the old American emotionalism, the assumption that the people of Iraq want what we want, freedom and democracy, is over. Ten years ago if you announced you had reservations about what the people of Iraq really want, and maybe it isn’t freedom and democracy first, such reservations were called ethnocentric, belittling, bigoted. That’s over, too. We are hard-eyed now.

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I’ve warmed to the argument that the Sykes-Picot arrangement was, in one sense, inadvertently progressive. The makers of the modern Middle East roped together peoples of different ethnicities and faiths (or streams of the same faith) in what were meant to be modern, multicultural, and multi-confessional states. It is an understatement to say that the Middle East isn’t the sort of place where this kind of experiment has been shown to work. (I’m thinking of you, one-staters, by the way.) I don’t think it is worth American money, or certainly American lives, to keep Iraq a unitary state. It is, of course, important to invest in plans that forestall the creation of permanent jihadist safe havens, and about this the U.S. should be vigilant, more vigilant than it has been. But Westphalian obsessiveness—Iraq must stay together because it must stay together—just doesn’t seem wise.

More on all this later, but I’ll leave you with one quote from the story that struck me on re-reading, in part because it may represent what President Obama secretly feels about the Middle East. At one point, I asked David Fromkin, the author of A Peace to End all Peace, the definitive account of the making of the modern Middle East, whether he would speculate about the region’s future. This is what he said in 2007: “The Middle East has no future.”

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It is not that there was a complete absence of authentic moderate Muslim and non-Muslim democrats in Syria. There simply aren’t enough of them to make a difference. The brute fact is that only Islamic supremacists and their ruthless jihadist factions had a chance to overthrow Assad, if they got enough outside help.

The claim that Obama abandoned the opposition is equally bogus. Because of the president’s delusional theory that the Muslim Brotherhood are “moderates” we can ally with, he quietly colluded with Qatar and the Saudis to arm and train the Syrian “rebels.” It blew up on him because the “moderates” are not moderate. The Brothers concur in al-Qaeda’s sharia goals and readily resort to terrorism if that is what is necessary to achieve them. So arming the rebels, as Obama helped do, necessarily meant arming anti-American jihadists. This has proved embarrassing, so what Obama has done, at least so far, is refrain from giving the “rebels” decisive aid — the kind he gave the “rebels” in Libya, to disastrous effect in Benghazi. That is hardly an aid vacuum.

Similarly fatuous is the vacuum narrative regarding Iraq. As I argued throughout the Bush years, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has always been Iran’s guy, and under his regime, Iran’s tentacles were allowed to spread throughout post-Saddam Iraq — the State Department and the Iraq Study Group sharing the loopy conceit that Iran had an interest in a stable Iraq even as Iran was fueling both sides of Iraq’s civil war, supplying Sunni terrorists with IEDs, and running Shiite terror cells against our troops…

In truth, Iraq was never stable. Only the presence of American troops prevented an outbreak of Sunni–Shiite warfare. The Sunnis were temporarily “awakened” by being paid off, not by a commitment to Iraqi “democracy” that promised domination by Iran-controlled Shiites. And because the conflict is global, it was never possible to obliterate al-Qaeda in Iraq.

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Democracy became the shovel we Westerners used to dig ourselves out of destitution only after we had spent decades using it to batter one another over the head. It took generations before the Robespierres and Cromwells were worked out of the system.

Second, we are applying an emaciated version of the word “democracy.” It is a cliché to say that democracy means more than elections, but the need to build institutions and freedoms, to challenge traditional structures and end the myth that popular sovereignty is a Western import – these challenges are too often neglected…

I’m not as willing as Mr. Lilla to believe that we should merely accept this. Nor do I think we should believe the idea, popular once again in some quarters, that some societies and peoples simply aren’t meant for liberal democracy. But we do need a lot more humility, and a lot more patience.

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Should have strafed em!

Bmore on June 21, 2014 at 8:33 PM

blah blah blah. it’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on June 21, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Ratso!

Bakokitty on June 21, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Allah, there is a rumor circulating you are leaving for Breitbart. Care to confirm or deny?

Bmore on June 21, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Evening.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Who needs enemies when we have Democrats?

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Allah, there is a rumor circulating you are leaving for Breitbart. Care to confirm or deny?

Bmore on June 21, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I heard he’s being replaced by hagfish …

ShainS on June 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM

ShainS on June 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Good deal. The place is going to heII. Not just at night. / I think I’ll follow Allah. Again?!?!

Bmore on June 21, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Allah, there is a rumor circulating you are leaving for Breitbart. Care to confirm or deny?

Bmore on June 21, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I heard he’s being replaced by hagfish …

ShainS on June 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Unpossible, I heard he is hagfish…

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:38 PM

“We have brothers from Bangladesh, from Iraq, from Cambodia, Australia, UK,” says one fighter, who is identified as British.

We will give you a Kenyan, no exchanged needed….

hillsoftx on June 21, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Democracy became the shovel we Westerners used to dig ourselves out of destitution only after we had spent decades using it to batter one another over the head. It took generations before the Robespierres and Cromwells were worked out of the system.

Second, we are applying an emaciated version of the word “democracy.” It is a cliché to say that democracy means more than elections, but the need to build institutions and freedoms, to challenge traditional structures and end the myth that popular sovereignty is a Western import – these challenges are too often neglected…

Who writes tripe like this??? Are you referring to the freedoms and institutions the chosen one is subverting?

WryTrvllr on June 21, 2014 at 8:40 PM

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:38 PM

I just hope Allah gets em to upgrade that lousy comment system over there. Yep, gonna miss the one here.

Bmore on June 21, 2014 at 8:41 PM

New nickname for Teleprompter Jesus: Loser in Chief.

Tard on June 21, 2014 at 8:41 PM

I heard he’s being replaced by hagfish …

ShainS on June 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Might as well at that point. If he goes, the place is kaput anyway. Perhaps she and cr can collaborate. A mass of misspellings and inanities with the oft reiterated catchphrase “Off I go!” tacked on for good measure.

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Who needs enemies when we have Democrats?

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Who needs Democrats when we have Republicans.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 8:42 PM

“ISIS gets some money from outside donors, but that pales in comparison to their self-funding,” said an American counterterrorism official. “The overwhelming majority of its money comes from criminal activities like extortion, kidnapping, robberies and smuggling.

When did Iraqi TV steal the plot for a “Godfather/SOA” hybrid?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Oh well. Spammo your ammo everyone. Have a great Saturday evening. ; )

Bmore on June 21, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Who needs enemies when we have Democrats?

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Who needs Democrats when we have Republicans.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Good point…

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:43 PM

The Islamic State of Iraq Is a Sham
Seriously, I don’t know who the good guys are. Who to root for.

anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 8:43 PM

The Islamic State of Iraq Is a Sham
Seriously, I don’t know who the good guys are. Who to root for.

anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Us.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Happy 70th to Ray Davies of The Kinks!

Del Dolemonte on June 21, 2014 at 8:45 PM

The Islamic State of Iraq Is a Sham
Seriously, I don’t know who the good guys are. Who to root for.

anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 8:43 PM

In Iraq, the only good guys are “Death and Hell” Death is the guy riding the Pale Horse and Hell is the guy following close behind him.

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Who needs enemies when we have Democrats?
oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Well, that solves one question for tonight ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 8:45 PM

The Islamic State of Iraq Is a Sham
Seriously, I don’t know who the good guys are. Who to root for.

anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 8:43 PM

IMHO, there’ll never be peace in the ME until, sadly, most all of it — hopefully Israel excluded — is covered by green glass …

ShainS on June 21, 2014 at 8:47 PM

I heard he’s being replaced by hagfish …

ShainS on June 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM

That was really funny. :-)

coolrepublica on June 21, 2014 at 8:48 PM

As has been true for thousands and thousands of years, Joe. You don’t root for the good guys, you root for your guys. G-d will sort it out.

DemetriusPhalerum on June 21, 2014 at 8:49 PM

ShainS on June 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Imagine Susan with the hammer.

cozmo on June 21, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Imagine Susan with the hammer.
cozmo on June 21, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Are there that many tongue depressors in the world?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 8:55 PM

ShainS on June 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Imagine Susan with the hammer.

cozmo on June 21, 2014 at 8:51 PM

I’ll take, “How long would it take to transform Hot Air into Little Green Footballs” for $1000.00 Alex…

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:55 PM

green glass … …

I know what that means, and it wouldn’t be good. Not for nobody. The least of our concerns would be that the oil would be permanent toast, and the damage would probably extend far and wide. Stop Iran! And stuff.

anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Schweet catch! ; )

Bmore on June 21, 2014 at 8:56 PM

I just hope Allah gets em to upgrade that lousy comment system over there. Yep, gonna miss the one here.

Bmore on June 21, 2014 at 8:41 PM

That site bugs me…it’s always freezing up and I can’t read anything.

ladyingray on June 21, 2014 at 8:57 PM

green glass … …

I know what that means, and it wouldn’t be good. Not for nobody. The least of our concerns would be that the oil would be permanent toast, and the damage would probably extend far and wide. Stop Iran! And stuff.

anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Sorry Joe, it wouldn’t mean that at all, not even remotely.

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM

‘Transform HotAir into LGF’ Oscar? Wouldn’t ‘we’ have to be complicit in that? Are ‘we’ that unimportant?

DemetriusPhalerum on June 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM

green glass … …

anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 8:56 PM

You spelled that wrong.

cozmo on June 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Imagine Susan with the hammer.

cozmo on June 21, 2014 at 8:51 PM

“In the name of free speech, we much give those who oppose it equal standing. If this ends up causing the extinction of free speech advocates, so be it-this is the price we must be willing to pay for the right of free speech!” -Islamists, illiberals, and some knotheads who are obstensibly on the right.

non-nonpartisan on June 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM

green glass … …
I know what that means, and it wouldn’t be good. Not for nobody. The least of our concerns would be that the oil would be permanent toast, and the damage would probably extend far and wide. Stop Iran! And stuff.
anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Sorry Joe, it wouldn’t mean that at all, not even remotely.
oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Hit ‘em just right and it could cool their jets for what, say, 50-75 years?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Are ‘we’ that unimportant?

DemetriusPhalerum on June 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Yes, and that is exactly the lesson of Little Green Footballs.

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Iran has never veered from it’s goal of the last thirty plus years to ultimately want to bring the destruction to the USA. They have repeatedly told us this in no uncertain words. I believe them. It would be a total folly for us to to get in bed with Iran, to defeat a people who ultimately have the same long game goal as Iran. We have spent enough blood and money there, with no gains. We certainly do not want to get into a war with Obama as CIC. He has neither the will nor the interest in what is good for America. I think we will have to sit this dance out. I am very distressed and sad for our brave men and women who gave their lives and limbs to this quicksand pit. If we had a leader who would go in there and decimate the ISIS and Taliban and pound them into the ground so deep it would take centuries for them to even raise their ugly heads up an inch,that would ok. But it is not going to happen. We must not make Iran the enemy of my enemy is my friend our war policy.
Ps: we can drill our own oil, put Americans to work and tell the Middle East to p*ss up the proverbial rope!

Bakokitty on June 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Evening as well peeps,..from the Boonies in CanukLand!

So,…………..late Friday Night,..more Same Sex Spouse Benefits
Operation commenced:

Mark Knoller @markknoller · Jun 20

WH also calling for legislation to “fix” laws that prohibit legally married same-sex couples from getting certain federal benefits.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · Jun 20

WH seeking to expand federal benefits to same-sex couples. Labor Dept today seeks to extend Family & Medical Leave Act to same-sex spouses.

The Associated Press @AP · 51m

Obama quietly extending administration’s advocacy to transgender community, reports @scoopscout: http://apne.ws/1pxmchW
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Without fanfare, Obama advances transgender rights
By LISA LEFF
— Jun. 21, 2014 6:23 PM EDT
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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — President Barack Obama, who established his bona fides as a gay and lesbian rights champion when he endorsed same-sex marriage, has steadily extended his administration’s advocacy to the smallest and least accepted band of the LGBT rainbow: transgender Americans.

With little of the fanfare or criticism that marked his evolution into the leader Newsweek nicknamed “the first gay president,” Obama became the first chief executive to say “transgender” in a speech, to name transgender political appointees and to prohibit job bias against transgender government workers. Also in his first term, he signed hate crime legislation that became the first federal civil rights protections for transgender people in U.S. history.

Since then, the administration has quietly applied the power of the executive branch to make it easier for transgender people to update their passports, obtain health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, get treatment at Veteran’s Administration facilities and seek access to public school restrooms and sports programs — just a few of the transgender-specific policy shifts of Obama’s presidency.

“He has been the best president for transgender rights, and nobody else is in second place,” Mara Keisling, executive director of the National Center for Transgender Equality, said of Obama, who is the only president to invite transgender children to participate in the annual Easter egg roll at the White House.

Religious conservative groups quick to criticize the president for his gay rights advocacy have been much slower to respond to the administration’s actions. The leader of the Traditional Values Coalition says there is little recourse because the changes come through executive orders and federal agencies rather than Congress.

The latest wins came this month, when the Office of Personnel Management announced that government-contracted health insurers could start covering the cost of gender reassignment surgeries for federal employees, retirees and their survivors, ending a 40-year prohibition. Two weeks earlier, a decades-old rule preventing Medicare from financing such procedures was overturned within the Department of Health and Human Services.
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/without-fanfare-obama-advances-transgender-rights

canopfor on June 21, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Are ‘we’ that unimportant?

DemetriusPhalerum on June 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Yes

cozmo on June 21, 2014 at 9:00 PM

anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 8:56 PM

It would be horrific, and I wouldn’t want that either.

Just my way of saying people need to accept that there’s likely never going to be peace there (notwithstanding, perhaps, the aftermath of some apocalyptic nuclear war) …

ShainS on June 21, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Wow. Sorry to hear that. Is that really your opinion of yourselves? Really?

DemetriusPhalerum on June 21, 2014 at 9:02 PM

cozmo on June 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Great choice. Thought we were headed out the door. Nice to have something good to listen to while I wait.

Bmore on June 21, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Evening All.

____

I love Judge Janine…Bomb them and bomb them and then bomb them again. Not one more American military death or dismemberment.

(paraphrasing)

Her Opening Statements are awesome.

CoffeeLover on June 21, 2014 at 9:03 PM

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM

lol!

anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 9:03 PM

More Same-Sex Benefits Slipped under the MSM Radar:

Same-Sex Couples to Get More Benefits
Workers Nationwide Will be Allowed to Take Leave to Care for Spouses

Updated June 20, 2014 10:09 a.m. ET
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WASHINGTON—The Obama administration announced Friday the extension of more benefits and obligations to same-sex married couples, including plans to allow workers nationwide to take leave from their jobs to care for same-sex spouses.

The White House also is expected to press Congress to pass legislation needed to change some provisions, such as Social Security benefits, to apply to same-sex married couples.

The announcement comes after a nearly yearlong review of federal regulations following the Supreme Court’s 2013 ruling striking down the Defense of Marriage Act, which denied federal benefits to legally married gay couples.

Gay-rights groups had cheered the decision, and President Barack Obama called it a step toward ensuring that basic principles apply to everyone.

The president last year directed Attorney General Eric Holder to work with the cabinet to review all relevant statutes.

On Friday, the administration explained how an array of federal benefits applies to same-sex married couples, having concluded it can act to extend benefits to same-sex married couples with existing law at several federal agencies.

The Labor Department’s proposed rule would change the Family and Medical Leave Act regulatory definition of “spouse” so that an eligible employee in a legal same-sex marriage will be able to take FMLA leave for his or her spouse or family member, regardless of the state in which the employee resides. The current regulatory definition of “spouse” applies only to same-sex spouses who reside in a state that recognizes same-sex marriage.

“Under the proposed revisions, the FMLA will be applied to all families equally, enabling individuals in same-sex marriages to fully exercise their rights and fulfill their responsibilities to their families,” Labor Secretary Thomas Perez said in a statement.

During the past year, Justice Department attorneys have consulted with the general counsels of federal agencies to see whether legal barriers remain to extending benefits to same-sex spouses.

In a memo to the president, Mr. Holder will report that they found such impediments in the statutes governing only two agencies: the Social Security Administration and the Department of Veterans Affairs, an administration official said Thursday.

While same-sex spouses can receive full benefits from those agencies if they live in states that recognize their marriages, those who reside in “nonrecognition” states are eligible only for a few.

“We knew that the two that would be the most vexing are the VA and the Social Security Administration, because there is language embedded in the statutes that founded them specific references to marriage being defined by where the person dwells, rather than being silent,” the official said.
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/same-sex-couples-to-get-more-benefits-1403237308

canopfor on June 21, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Hi. Stopping by briefly, then back to the scaffold. Today has been excellent. No kids, off work , lunch at my favorite restaurant and a trip to the shooting range with Lady Doc. An excellent day. Now back to painting. See ya later.

Doc Holliday on June 21, 2014 at 9:04 PM

That site bugs me…it’s always freezing up and I can’t read anything.

ladyingray on June 21, 2014 at 8:57 PM

You’ll get nothing and like it! :P

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Imagine Susan with the hammer.

cozmo on June 21, 2014 at 8:51 PM


Hmmm
… Doesn’t look that scary.

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 9:04 PM

The assessment they brought back was bleak: Sunni Army officers had been forced out, overall leadership had declined, the Iraqi military wasn’t maintaining its equipment and had stopped conducting rigorous training.

Army officers forced out?

Overall leadership had declined?

Military not maintaining its equipment?

Stopped conducting rigorous training?

That all sounds very familiar somehow? Anybody?

VorDaj on June 21, 2014 at 9:04 PM

CoffeeLover on June 21, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Hi, CL! Did the rain let up enough to let you out?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Oh and By The Way, pardon my poor manners…. Good evening :D

Bakokitty on June 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM

IMHO, there’ll never be peace in the ME until, sadly, most all of it — hopefully Israel excluded — is covered by green glass …

ShainS on June 21, 2014 at 8:47 PM

There is no compromise or peaceful coexistance with Islam or other evil systems.

I am not sure I agree all of the ME would have to turned to glass to achieve peace there-how about maybe just Mecca and Medina? =)

non-nonpartisan on June 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Wow. Sorry to hear that. Is that really your opinion of yourselves? Really?

DemetriusPhalerum on June 21, 2014 at 9:02 PM

You are clueless. Those who comment here, do not shape or control the destiny of this site. We do not control it’s political leanings, we do not shape it’s ideology or it’s objectives. We are irrelevant to it’s business model.

If you have a different opinion of yourself, it is not an opinion based even remotely in reality.

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Ratso!

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:06 PM

The Who — Eminence Front (pretty cool video too)

ShainS on June 21, 2014 at 9:06 PM

And now a song. For Fallon. Whom I never see at night.

Fallon Me

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 9:07 PM

That all sounds very familiar somehow? Anybody?
VorDaj on June 21, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Carter and Carter: The Millennial Edition?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Bmore on June 21, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Discouraged, Bmore?

lineholder on June 21, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Ratso!

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Your late! : ) hope you got rested up from your loud and boomy night.

Bakokitty on June 21, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Ko. Thanks oscar. Really? See ya!

DemetriusPhalerum on June 21, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Yes Newtie it did. Boy we got some nice boomers and lightning to go with all that rain too. How was it up by you? Walgreens and Publix…I’m good to go for another week thanks. :)

CoffeeLover on June 21, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Wow. Sorry to hear that. Is that really your opinion of yourselves? Really?
DemetriusPhalerum on June 21, 2014 at 9:02 PM

We, all of us, can be replaced, DP. Sometimes the replacement is inferior, sometimes superior, but doo-doo occurs.

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 9:09 PM

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM

lol!

anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Take a damned good look at Hiroshima or Nagasaki and get back to me.

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Your late! : ) hope you got rested up from your loud and boomy night.

Bakokitty on June 21, 2014 at 9:08 PM

I never really got much sleep at all last night, even from the basement…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:09 PM

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Even though all of that is true, OW, shouldn’t the possibility of a self-fulfilling prophecy principle at play be taken into consideration?

lineholder on June 21, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Wonder if Hagfish will answer Hawk’s question?

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:11 PM

You spelled that wrong.

cozmo on June 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Loved that song. Saw them in concert. Unfortunately, I sat near the speaker bank and couldn’t hear for a day or two afterwards.

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 9:11 PM

CoffeeLover on June 21, 2014 at 9:08 PM

We’re hanging in there today, CL. All of the boomer warnings and watches have been east of us… ;-)

That means Oldest Dear Son will be dry (well, dry-ER) when he comes home tonight :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Now, how in the world did you find that? Too funny…

Barred on June 21, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Wow that picture of the train bringing the illegals to the US on Drudge is so disturbing. It wasn’t there this afternoon when I last I looked. Dang it does look like a flippin’ invasion.

CoffeeLover on June 21, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Ko. Thanks oscar. Really? See ya!

DemetriusPhalerum on June 21, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Reality does not care what you think, you do not get a trophy just for showing up. Reality is this, neither you, nor I, nor anyone else who comments here are important to Hot Air, they could close the entire comment feature down and it would not have any significant impact on the place. If you think otherwise, you are deceiving yourself.

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Take a damned good look at Hiroshima or Nagasaki and get back to me.
oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Just one look

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 9:14 PM

May I be frank?

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Evening All.

____

I love Judge Janine…Bomb them and bomb them and then bomb them again. Not one more American military death or dismemberment.

(paraphrasing)

Her Opening Statements are awesome.

CoffeeLover on June 21, 2014 at 9:03 PM

CoffeeLover:

Yes,…Napham,..Daisy Cutters, MOAB’s, JDAM’S, Cluster-Bombs, F/A Devices, and plenty of Depleted Uranium Ordance’s, them to KingDom
Come,…..or 72 Virgins,…which ever comes first!!!!!!
(sarc)

canopfor on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Happy 70th to Ray Davies of The Kinks!

Del Dolemonte on June 21, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Ya really got me.

onlineanalyst on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Fallon Me

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 9:07 PM

REM = Good.

I’m honored. Yeah, I need my beauty sleep. LOL

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Mel had me at Publix too long. Ended up with Crunchy Cheetos, Flaming Hot Cheetos and Cheddar Popcorn.

(passing around the bowls to the QOTD crew.)

CoffeeLover on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

May I be frank?

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 9:14 PM

I thought you were…

ladyingray on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

I’m honored. Yeah, I need my beauty sleep. LOL

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Youu look good to me, darlin’

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

What in the world is little green footballs?

coolrepublica on June 21, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Dang it does look like a flippin’ invasion.
CoffeeLover on June 21, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Yep…and now it’s officially a “crisis”…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 9:16 PM

We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor

Love y’all!

<——AFK

lineholder on June 21, 2014 at 9:16 PM

I thought you were…

ladyingray on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

HA!

And now a song that appears to sum it all up

Driven Out

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Mel had me at Publix too long. Ended up with Crunchy Cheetos, Flaming Hot Cheetos and Cheddar Popcorn.
(passing around the bowls to the QOTD crew.)
CoffeeLover on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Oh, I can only imagine, CL… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Imagine Susan with the hammer.

cozmo on June 21, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Hmmm… Doesn’t look that scary.

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 9:04 PM

…lol!…how did you find that so quick?

JugEarsButtHurt on June 21, 2014 at 9:18 PM

The Islamic State of Iraq Is a Sham
Seriously, I don’t know who the good guys are. Who to root for.

anotherJoe on June 21, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Right. These are McCain’s buddies. This weekend he is campaigning for Thad Cochran so he won’t be the most senile, brain-dead man in the senate.

bw222 on June 21, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Now, how in the world did you find that? Too funny…

Barred on June 21, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Oh, there’s a lot of them out there. I just thought the “clownfish” was appropriate.

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 9:19 PM

canopfor on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Hello my great Northern friend :)

Aside from W never using his veto for spending bills my biggest diss on him was not waging war as war. He should have taken down Saddam and then leveled the mountains between Pakistan and Afghanistan. The hell with all this nation building he tried.

CoffeeLover on June 21, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Mel had me at Publix too long. Ended up with Crunchy Cheetos, Flaming Hot Cheetos and Cheddar Popcorn.
(passing around the bowls to the QOTD crew.)
CoffeeLover on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

I prefer Classic puffed Cheetos, but thanks anyway…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:19 PM

What in the world is little green footballs?
coolrepublica on June 21, 2014 at 9:16 PM

For God’s sake, woman! You DO have Internet access, do you not?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 21, 2014 at 9:19 PM

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Even though all of that is true, OW, shouldn’t the possibility of a self-fulfilling prophecy principle at play be taken into consideration?

lineholder on June 21, 2014 at 9:10 PM

In what context could it possibly have any relevance? Hot Air is a for profit business. It’s business model is not predicated on having a comment ability, or whom does the commenting in it’s comment section. It’s business model is centered around who does the writing, what they write about, and how many unique visitors it gets every day.

oscarwilde on June 21, 2014 at 9:20 PM

You look good to me, darlin’

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Then, it’s working, lol.

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Going out for a smoke…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:22 PM

How do we trust the the war decisions to a group of politicians sitting in Washington DC other than the military at the site? We went through this with Vietnam with all the regulations on what to do resembles a video game. OMG where is the intelligence?

mixplix on June 21, 2014 at 9:24 PM

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