Quotes of the day

posted at 8:41 pm on June 20, 2014 by Allahpundit

Rand Paul is for the first time weighing in on the chaos in Iraq…

He leaves the question of targeted airstrikes open, saying there are “many questions” that need to be addressed before the U.S. proceeds: “What would airstrikes accomplish? We know that Iran is aiding the Iraqi government against ISIS. Do we want to, in effect, become Iran’s air force? What’s in this for Iran? Why should we choose a side, and if we do, who are we really helping?”

Asked whether he supports the president’s decision to send 300 military advisers to Iraq and continuing to aid the Iraqi army, Paul says he doesn’t “second guess” the decisions. But he couldn’t help himself, adding that the United States has for a decade now funneled aid the Iraqi army and “you gotta wonder what’s happened to all the money.”…

Though most foreign-policy experts have traced the current chaos to the Obama administration’s failure to negotiate a new Status of Forces Agreement with Iraqi prime minister Nouri al-Maliki, Paul says insurgents very well could have seized control of the country’s most important cities even if the U.S. had maintained its presence — and that it’s a good thing American soldiers aren’t getting caught in the crossfire right now. “This may well still have happened,” he says. “I think it’s probably fortunate that [American troops] weren’t there.”

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Sen. Rand Paul intertwined his message against foreign aid on Friday with a message that appeals to the GOP’s social conservative base.

“There’s a war on Christianity going on, and sometimes you’re being asked to pay for it,” the Kentucky Republican said. “I say not one penny to any country that persecutes Christians.”…

The first-term senator blasted the Obama administration for arming rebels in Syria, some of whom have been reported to attack Christians…

Paul, however, said nothing of defending Christians who are currently being threatened in Iraq by Islamic militants, known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

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What would airstrikes accomplish? We know that Iran is aiding the Iraqi government against ISIS. Do we want to, in effect, become Iran’s air force? What’s in this for Iran? Why should we choose a side, and if we do, who are we really helping?…

For the small group calling for boots on the ground—how can we ask our brave men and women to risk their lives for a country the Iraqis aren’t willing to fight for themselves? Iraqi soldiers are stripping off their uniforms and fleeing this fight. We shouldn’t ask our soldiers to put their uniforms on to take their places…

Many of those clamoring for military action now are the same people who made every false assumption imaginable about the cost, challenge and purpose of the Iraq war. They have been so wrong for so long. Why should we listen to them again?

Saying the mess in Iraq is President Obama’s fault ignores what President Bush did wrong. Saying it is President Bush’s fault is to ignore all the horrible foreign policy decisions in Syria, Libya, Egypt and elsewhere under President Obama, many of which may have contributed to the current crisis in Iraq. For former Bush officials to blame President Obama or for Democrats to blame President Bush only serves as a reminder that both sides continue to get foreign policy wrong. We need a new approach, one that emulates Reagan’s policies, puts America first, seeks peace, faces war reluctantly, and when necessary acts fully and decisively.

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The Cheneys snarl about “appeasing our enemies,” “abandoning our allies,” and “apologizing for our great nation,” as if it was the 2004 Republican National Convention all over again. Paul, with the exception of one somewhat intemperate paragraph asking “Why should we listen to them again?”, approaches the question with an assumption of personal and national humility, a sense that American knowledge of (and power to shape) fluid events in the Middle East has limitations, as does American appetite for making the kind of commitments that the Cheneys of the world constantly seek…

This is a pretty clearly defined fork in the road for GOP foreign policy. As Rand Paul put it to me last August, when the elective war under debate was Syria, “We’re losing, on a good day, 70/30 among the Republicans [in the Senate]. But we win every day among the grassroots, probably 80/20, 90/10.” How—if at all—those numbers converge will tell us much about the fortunes of the Republican Party, and of the country.

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Part of the rationale for giving people who got Iraq wrong last time the chance to explain why this intervention is different is that they may be right. Supporting the Iraq invasion was an unusually big mistake, but sooner or later, almost everyone who offers opinions about war makes mistakes. Ted Kennedy opposed overthrowing Manuel Noriega. Colin Powell opposed the Gulf War, as did most Democrats in Congress. Jimmy Carter thought it such a bad idea that he urged other nations to reject authorization for force at the UN. Michael Moore opposed NATO’s military intervention in Kosovo. The Nation called it a “careless, cowardly and destructive war.” In the run-up to the 2003 Iraq invasion, in fact, some hawks did exactly what Waldman is doing now. They urged the public to “ignore those who got it all wrong” when they opposed successful military actions in the 1990s.

If accurately forecasting the last war were a reliable guide to accurately forecasting the next one, foreign policy would be a lot simpler. In fact, American history is littered with people who looked prescient one moment and foolish the next: critics of World War I who therefore opposed American entry into World War II; champions of World War II who therefore supported America’s war in Vietnam; champions of the Balkan interventions who therefore supported America’s invasion of Iraq.

The point is that everyone—whether they got the last war right or not—should approach the next one with humility. Everyone should answer for his or her past mistakes but no one should be written out of the debate because of them. Judging by the past century of American foreign policy, it’s precisely when people are most confident history has proven them right that they’re most likely to be wrong.

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This I know: America has made profound — and far more costly — mistakes at the beginning of virtually every war. The opening months of World War II were a national nightmare, rendered more palatable to the public only through large-scale censorship that sometimes blocked the American people’s knowledge of defeats that cost more lives in one night than America would lose in entire years in Iraq or Afghanistan. In the Korean War, profound diplomatic and intelligence failures led to headlong retreats and mass-scale slaughters of unprepared soldiers. In the Civil War, poor tactics and dreadful leadership almost destroyed the nation less than one century after its founding, as a Union with immense manpower and industrial benefits arguably came within a few improper orders and missed battlefield opportunities from crumbling in the face of the Army of Northern Virginia. The list of horrifying mistakes could go on, but — as I just said — war is hard, the enemy always has a vote, and sometimes only cruel experience can teach us the right lessons…

We are all responsible for our words and actions. Even though my influence is minimal (especially compared to my colleagues posting here on NRO and syndicated nationally) I sometimes agonize over individual words in blog posts. And I still think every day about the choices I made in Iraq. But if I’m responsible — as a supporter of the war from the beginning and a veteran of that same conflict — for what I say and do, so are the victory lappers. And I would not trade places with a group that helped manufacture the “war weariness” that gripped an American public that has, apart from a tiny minority, sacrificed nothing for this conflict and would continue to sacrifice nothing even if we maintained the small force in Iraq necessary to secure our gains.

You helped America leave, and in so doing, you helped waste the sacrifice of those few who served.

Your moral superiority is misplaced.

Your victory lap is grotesque.

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Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul told conservative activists Friday that hawkish Republicans have mistakenly concluded that U.S. military intervention is a sign of American strength…

“Reagan spoken often of peace through strength. I hear that some in our nation, some in our party have forgotten the first part of the sentence,” Paul said. “Peace should be our goal even as we build our strength. Some in my party have distorted the belief of peace through strength into the misguided belief that we should project strength through war.”

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I think the same questions could be asked of those who supported the Iraq War. You know, were they right in their predictions? Were there weapons of mass destruction there? That’s what the war was sold on. Was democracy easily achievable? Was the war won in 2005, when many of these people said it was won? They didn’t really, I think, understand the civil war that would break out. And what’s going on now — I don’t blame on President Obama. Has he really got the solution? Maybe there is no solution. But I do blame the Iraq War on the chaos that is in the Middle East. I also blame those who are for the Iraq War for emboldening Iran.

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Via MFP.

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Me first.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Well done, COL! :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Use the fohce, Loose. Bom the ahsprin fahctory in Sudahn.

Judge_Dredd on June 20, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Crankyoldlady–too fast for you, chumps.

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Ratso!

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 8:46 PM

I’ve been out front, more nasty storms heading this way…

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 8:47 PM

To call it a civil war is sophomoric. And dangerously naive. I don’t want him for my president.

rlwo2008 on June 20, 2014 at 8:48 PM

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 8:47 PM

You needed the rain, OC, but who ordered the extra fireworks package?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 8:49 PM

They have been so wrong for so long. Why should we listen to them again?

Hear, hear…!!

JohnGalt23 on June 20, 2014 at 8:49 PM

You needed the rain, OC, but who ordered the extra fireworks package?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 8:49 PM

I just hope no more tornadoes…

Good job, COL…

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 8:50 PM

I’ve been out front, more nasty storms heading this way…

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 8:47 PM

I saw that.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 8:51 PM

[sets out "We Reserve The Right To Serve Whomever We Dang Well Please, Dammit!" signage...activates wireless drink stations and drone delivery system...sends out Triple Whatchudrinkin's...usual caveats apply...tosses bar keys to Doc, COL and OC...]

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Looking at the radar of Omaha, Nebraska.

My advice would be….duck!

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 8:52 PM

If we understood how Rand Paul wants to dramatically cut spending and reform the entitlement state, we’d give Paul some applause. And that’s the central part of Paul’s political character, but we rarely hear anything about that. It’s too bad that he has to get into foreign policy where we get the stinking suspicion that he’s just like his dad. Or that he has to say that we need to “compromise on amnesty.” If Rand Paul has any chance it is to get back to talking about his bread and butter, about his desire to tame the federal beast.

anotherJoe on June 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM

My advice would be….duck!
Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 8:52 PM

“Duck”…that’s like “squirrel,” only with feathers, yes?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM

The cats and the drinks are here. And some of my favorite people.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Rand is a disappointment yet again.

The middle east is a huge game now, one that this administration does not know how to play. Almost all of the politicians today forgot how to play the game in the middle east, but the inhabitants haven’t forgotten and have never stopped playing the game.

For as brilliant as Rand thinks he is, he sure has a problem with history and putting the puzzle pieces together doesn’t he? He’s not the only one though, most of these jerks are clueless. That’s one reason why the world is so messy…the country that had the most power pissed it away by putting a series of complete idiots at the helm, the latest being an anti-American socialist progressive islamofascist sympathizer.

Here’s another problem:

Michael Moore opposed NATO’s military intervention in Kosovo.

Who the bloody fck cares what this pig and his ilk thinks about anything at all?

Diluculo on June 20, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on June 20, 2014 at 8:54 PM

“Duck”…that’s like “squirrel,” only with feathers, yes?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Well, it’s what I would say when I hear the whistle of an incoming shell anyway.

Diluculo on June 20, 2014 at 8:56 PM

“Duck”…that’s like “squirrel,” only with feathers, yes?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Except for webbed feet unless you mean flying squirrels…

viking01 on June 20, 2014 at 8:56 PM

use the fohce, Loose. Bom the ahsprin fahctory in Sudahn. Judge_Dredd on June 20, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Nise dale1/2 impression.

wolly4321 on June 20, 2014 at 8:58 PM

“Duck”…that’s like “squirrel,” only with feathers, yes?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM

More like a killer rabbit…

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Black Sabbath – Faeries Wear Boots

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Construction boots too?

Diluculo on June 20, 2014 at 9:00 PM

He looks like Huckabee in that pic.

wolly4321 on June 20, 2014 at 9:00 PM

More like a killer rabbit…
Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Fantastic timing, Doc… <—insert evil laughter here

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Construction boots too?
Diluculo on June 20, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Steel-toes, no less… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Interesting…Megyn’s off and Martha’s on…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:03 PM

The middle east is a huge game now, one that this administration does not know how to play.

Really?? So you spoke up against Bush/Cheney’s brilliant idea of democratizing the ME?

Because that strikes me as a gargantuan misplaying of the “game” of which you speak, far more than any of the questions Sen Paul raised…

JohnGalt23 on June 20, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Here’s another problem:

Michael Moore opposed NATO’s military intervention in Kosovo.

Who the bloody fck cares what this pig and his ilk thinks about anything at all?

Diluculo on June 20, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Mikey’s in a knockdown, dragout battle with his equally obese newly-ex-wife over their shared assets. I wish him nothing but misery.

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Man there is a lot of thunder and lightning, and the humidity is oppressive…

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Civil war my ass. Rand you are not ready for prime time.

can_con on June 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Nise dale1/2 impression.

wolly4321 on June 20, 2014 at 8:58 PM

;P

That was actually a Paul Shanklin bit from Rush Limbaugh way back during impeachment. You had Loose Skirtchaser, Princess Leiawinsky and Algore as The Void of Space.

Judge_Dredd on June 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Mikey’s in a knockdown, dragout battle with his equally obese newly-ex-wife over their shared assets. I wish him nothing but misery.
slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM

How does the saying go again? “There’s no socialists in court rooms”?

I hope he squeals when the judge awards her half of their ASSets…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Man there is a lot of thunder and lightning, and the humidity is oppressive…

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM

‘Round here, we call that “Summer” :)

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Man there is a lot of thunder and lightning, and the humidity is oppressive…
OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Ratso’s a harmless loveable little fuzzball? Now THAT’S humid!

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:07 PM

I frankly don’t believe that Rand Paul would have done a much better job than Dear Leader in protecting America’s vital interests in the Middle East, in general, much less in Iraq. I guess being completely uninvolved rather than merely ineffective might sound better, but saying you won’t get involved pretty much no matter what is not much different than giving a date certain when you will stop being involved.

Knott Buyinit on June 20, 2014 at 9:07 PM

How does the saying go again? “There’s no socialists in court rooms”?

I hope he squeals when the judge awards her half of their ASSets…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Ayup, bet Mikey’s not so eager to spread the wealth around right now, eh?

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Interesting…Megyn’s off and Martha’s on…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Mmmmmmmmmmmartha… =)

non-nonpartisan on June 20, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Man there is a lot of thunder and lightning, and the humidity is oppressive…

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Humid here too and rain almost here.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Man there is a lot of thunder and lightning, and the humidity is oppressive…
OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM

‘Round here, we call that “Summer” :)
Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:07 PM

We’d call that “about 4.45pm”…well, give or take 30 minutes… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:08 PM

nen cmylony aeburk tdes out

cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Ratso’s a harmless loveable little fuzzball? Now THAT’S humid!

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:07 PM

We took Ratso over to visit his mother and sisters today. He was scared to death and we heard him hiss and growl for the first time today…

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Ayup, bet Mikey’s not so eager to spread the wealth around right now, eh?
Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:07 PM

You got THAT right!

“She’s greedy”…”I made that”…”She doesn’t know the value of a dollar”…”It’s mine”…you know the drill ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Most of the Fox people take Fridays off.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

nen cmylony aeburk tdes out

cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

No more drinks for you.

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Humidity has been high for us here in NC today, too, OC. Normally, I get out and walk at least two miles every evening. Not tonight. I went a nearby (almost dead) mall instead…that’s where people go to walk when the weather’s bad.

lineholder on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Me first.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 8:44 PM

COL: You lucky B*stardEtte!
(Really kidding on the B*stard part)———————:0

canopfor on June 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Humid here too and rain almost here.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Getting old, isn’t it?

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM

nen cmylony aeburk tdes out
cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Congratulations on your new iPad mini! How do you like it?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM

I went a nearby (almost dead) mall instead…that’s where people go to walk when the weather’s bad.

lineholder on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Very good idea…

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:12 PM

We took Ratso over to visit his mother and sisters today. He was scared to death and we heard him hiss and growl for the first time today…
OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Doggy there?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Ayup, bet Mikey’s not so eager to spread the wealth around right now, eh?
Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:07 PM

You got THAT right!

“She’s greedy”…”I made that”…”She doesn’t know the value of a dollar”…”It’s mine”…you know the drill ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Can you imagine having to live with that horrendous, opinionated arrogant blob day in and day out? *Shudder*

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:12 PM

OC,, the worst is NE of you again…

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?rid=oax&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=no

wolly4321 on June 20, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Hey, Newtie, do you like Bath and Body Works?

I did a little birthday shopping this evening. They have a really good sale on right now.

lineholder on June 20, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Doggy there?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Nopoe, just 4 appleheads who look like him…

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:13 PM


https://twitter.com/FoxNewsInsider

FoxNewsInsider @FoxNewsInsider · 21h

.@SenRandPaul: ‘I Would In No Way, Shape or Form Put American Troops in #Iraq’ http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/06/19/ran

canopfor on June 20, 2014 at 9:13 PM

No more drinks for you.

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

e dcvkmt dcn c sembhk nremg ykt

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM

nomt dcvk omk

cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Though most foreign-policy experts have traced the current chaos to the Obama administration’s failure to negotiate a new Status of Forces Agreement with Iraqi prime minister Nouri al-Maliki

What was wrong with the old, and still current, one negotiated between Bush and Maliki and hence called the Bush/Maliki Status of Forces agreement? All Obama did was go with it and refuse the Iraqis demand that they could try our troops in Islamic courts. How would these morally depraved “foreign policy experts” like to be tried in an Islamic court?

VorDaj on June 20, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Man there is a lot of thunder and lightning, and the humidity is oppressive…
OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM

‘Round here, we call that “Summer” :)
Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:07 PM

We’d call that “about 4.45pm”…well, give or take 30 minutes… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Newtie’s not lying. Except for the panhandle, that is Florida. From here to Jacksonville. Daytona to Tampa.

Judge_Dredd on June 20, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Can you imagine having to live with that horrendous, opinionated arrogant blob day in and day out? *Shudder*
Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:12 PM

I lived in NJ for 11 years as an adult, so yeah, I can imagine that.

My apologies to all of you SANE NJ-ans…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Me first.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 8:44 PM

COL: You lucky B*stardEtte!
(Really kidding on the B*stard part)———————:0

canopfor on June 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Accidental. I should have played the lottery. I didn’t sit and watch the eagles all day like some but I went there this afternoon and seconds later I saw the last one fly away.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 9:14 PM

OC,, the worst is NE of you again…

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?rid=oax&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=no

wolly4321 on June 20, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Yep, but our local news is saying it is headed here and they evacuated the CWS fans out of the stadium…

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Hey, Newtie, do you like Bath and Body Works?
I did a little birthday shopping this evening. They have a really good sale on right now.
lineholder on June 20, 2014 at 9:13 PM

My mall has that AND a Victoria’s Secret…when I go, I’m in heaven :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:16 PM

I think we’re gonna need Dale to translate Cozmo tonight. On the other hand I get home and discover that last night’s QOTD was strangely Bluegill-free…

Judge_Dredd on June 20, 2014 at 9:16 PM

No more drinks for you.

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

e dcvkmt dcn c sembhk nremg ykt

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM

nomt dcvk omk

cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Gort ! Klaatu barada nicto.

viking01 on June 20, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Burn Baby Burn:
===============

https://twitter.com/FoxNewsInsider

FoxNewsInsider @FoxNewsInsider · 23h

‘I’d Let It Burn’: Col. David Hunt on the #Iraq Crisis http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/06/19/id-let-it-burn-col-david-hunt-iraq-crisis … @oreillyfactor

1978 The Trammps – Disco Inferno (Burn Baby Burn)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jzMw9ezE3I

canopfor on June 20, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Spawn!

annoyinglittletwerp on June 20, 2014 at 9:18 PM

I lived in NJ for 11 years as an adult, so yeah, I can imagine that.

My apologies to all of you SANE NJ-ans…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Heh. That’s funny.

Actually one of the nicest people I have ever met was from New Jersey.
And my grandfather was from Long Island.

He got smart and moved to Alabama when he met my grandmother…

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:18 PM

cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Letter substitution, yes?

It’s been a while, but I can still do Crypto-Quotes!

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Seems to me very short sighted and ignorant of history. It’s impossible to do anything in Iraq right now – we lack the political will to do much about the chaos there. And I personally don’t give a shit about the civilians and the Iraqi army at all.

Caring about that country is not nor ever has been the point. The reality is that ISIS is about to get their hands on WMD that have been there since the fall of Saddam Hussein.

man_ray on June 20, 2014 at 9:19 PM

You helped America leave, and in so doing, you helped waste the sacrifice of those few who served.

Dolchstosslegende deja vu all over again.

VorDaj on June 20, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Obama Slaps Sanctions On Uganda For “Vile” Anti-Gay Laws, Saudi Arabia Given A Free Pass To Execute Homosexuals…

Uganda ~> Christian

Saudi Arabia ~> Muslim

Resist We Much on June 20, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Wouldn’t it be great to see an intrepid lefty reporter ask his admin to explain this? Yes, I know it will never happen, but I can dream about it.

non-nonpartisan on June 20, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:16 PM

ROFL. It’s been years since I’ve done any shopping at Victoria’s Secret. I probably wouldn’t know how to act.

lineholder on June 20, 2014 at 9:19 PM

No more drinks for you.

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

e dcvkmt dcn c sembhk nremg ykt

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM

nomt dcvk omk

cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Gort ! Klaatu barada nicto.

viking01 on June 20, 2014 at 9:16 PM

viking01:

C’mon guys,……..ENGLISH , not Spanish,..er wait……:0

canopfor on June 20, 2014 at 9:19 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on June 20, 2014 at 9:18 PM

nen you bkt tdk kjceh

cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:20 PM

The weather channel doesn’t cover weather as much as they used to. They used to get off their special programs and cover real weather when something serious is happening. Raining hard and windy here now.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 9:20 PM

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Fox is getting really bad. It’s turning into CNN.

cat_owner on June 20, 2014 at 9:20 PM

I think we’re gonna need Dale to translate Cozmo tonight. On the other hand I get home and discover that last night’s QOTD was strangely Bluegill-free…
Judge_Dredd on June 20, 2014 at 9:16 PM

That temper tantrum, though, was one for the record books… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:20 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:18 PM

If I had your email you would have the link and cypher key.

cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Gort ! Klaatu barada nicto.

viking01 on June 20, 2014 at 9:16 PM

If you are going to say it, you have to link it.

Bmore on June 20, 2014 at 9:21 PM

ROFL. It’s been years since I’ve done any shopping at Victoria’s Secret. I probably wouldn’t know how to act.
lineholder on June 20, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Last time I was in Victoria’s Secret, my Oldest Dear Son was with me. Good thing I stayed close to the twaletries section…

Did I mention he’s shy? o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Mental breakthrough on what I need to do for a paper…

<—AFK

lineholder on June 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Okay-how do I play cozmo’s game?
Also-I was doing some research.
I’m thinking next spring or summer would be a good time to spend a week or so in Israel.
I’m applying for a passport next week.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM

If I had your email you would have the link and cypher key.
cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:21 PM

OC has it, Cozmo

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM

cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Just weren’t about to outlast Bishop were you?

Bmore on June 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM

think we’re gonna need Dale to translate Cozmo tonight. On the other hand I get home and discover that last night’s QOTD was strangely Bluegill-free… Judge_Dredd on June 20, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Frankly I was surprise she was a no-show.

I doubt she answered Hawkdriver at the end, either.

wolly4321 on June 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Okay-how do I play cozmo’s game?

annoyinglittletwerp on June 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Check your email.

cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM

viking01 on June 20, 2014 at 9:16 PM

viking01: Remember last nights QOTD,……Nazi Team uniforms,…
RE: RedSkins thread:)

How about the Washington Mascot Nazis?

viking01 on June 19, 2014 at 11:38 PM

viking01:

Will they have a Black or Grey uniforms!
(sarc):

canopfor on June 19, 2014 at 11:42 PM
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The Associated Press @AP · 2h

A #WorldCup exhibition of soccer shirts that includes a Nazi-era jersey is raising eyebrows among visitors: http://apne.ws/1oYtHko

Raw: Nazi-era World Cup Shirt Causes Controversy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2WqzX2Tkz4&list=PLnwt1fUa-EVjvQTA2AaRuGkRN_RjXY-35

canopfor on June 20, 2014 at 9:24 PM

I’m applying for a passport next week.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Good idea. I gather it takes awhile to get one.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Bmore on June 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM

phcyemb

cozmo on June 20, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on June 20, 2014 at 9:20 PM

cr was there trying to blow up williamg, then it scarpered… teeeheee

Good Evening ALL!! :)

Scrumpy on June 20, 2014 at 9:28 PM

The weather channel doesn’t cover weather as much as they used to. They used to get off their special programs and cover real weather when something serious is happening. Raining hard and windy here now.

crankyoldlady on June 20, 2014 at 9:20 PM

COL:0

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/severe-weather-in-us-plains-midwest-june-16-2014/

https://twitter.com/TWCBreaking

https://twitter.com/breakingweather

(More Linkys..)

canopfor on June 20, 2014 at 9:29 PM

Really?? So you spoke up against Bush/Cheney’s brilliant idea of democratizing the ME?

Because that strikes me as a gargantuan misplaying of the “game” of which you speak, far more than any of the questions Sen Paul raised…

JohnGalt23 on June 20, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Yep. I was always against trying to remake the ME into something it couldn’t be with the current inhabitant’s culture too fast. They are not interested in democracy, let alone representative republics. Some of them may be of course, can’t say everybody about anything, but clearly the majority….and the guys with the guns…aren’t interested.

Diluculo on June 20, 2014 at 9:30 PM

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