Quotes of the day

posted at 8:41 pm on June 20, 2014 by Allahpundit

Rand Paul is for the first time weighing in on the chaos in Iraq…

He leaves the question of targeted airstrikes open, saying there are “many questions” that need to be addressed before the U.S. proceeds: “What would airstrikes accomplish? We know that Iran is aiding the Iraqi government against ISIS. Do we want to, in effect, become Iran’s air force? What’s in this for Iran? Why should we choose a side, and if we do, who are we really helping?”

Asked whether he supports the president’s decision to send 300 military advisers to Iraq and continuing to aid the Iraqi army, Paul says he doesn’t “second guess” the decisions. But he couldn’t help himself, adding that the United States has for a decade now funneled aid the Iraqi army and “you gotta wonder what’s happened to all the money.”…

Though most foreign-policy experts have traced the current chaos to the Obama administration’s failure to negotiate a new Status of Forces Agreement with Iraqi prime minister Nouri al-Maliki, Paul says insurgents very well could have seized control of the country’s most important cities even if the U.S. had maintained its presence — and that it’s a good thing American soldiers aren’t getting caught in the crossfire right now. “This may well still have happened,” he says. “I think it’s probably fortunate that [American troops] weren’t there.”

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Sen. Rand Paul intertwined his message against foreign aid on Friday with a message that appeals to the GOP’s social conservative base.

“There’s a war on Christianity going on, and sometimes you’re being asked to pay for it,” the Kentucky Republican said. “I say not one penny to any country that persecutes Christians.”…

The first-term senator blasted the Obama administration for arming rebels in Syria, some of whom have been reported to attack Christians…

Paul, however, said nothing of defending Christians who are currently being threatened in Iraq by Islamic militants, known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

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What would airstrikes accomplish? We know that Iran is aiding the Iraqi government against ISIS. Do we want to, in effect, become Iran’s air force? What’s in this for Iran? Why should we choose a side, and if we do, who are we really helping?…

For the small group calling for boots on the ground—how can we ask our brave men and women to risk their lives for a country the Iraqis aren’t willing to fight for themselves? Iraqi soldiers are stripping off their uniforms and fleeing this fight. We shouldn’t ask our soldiers to put their uniforms on to take their places…

Many of those clamoring for military action now are the same people who made every false assumption imaginable about the cost, challenge and purpose of the Iraq war. They have been so wrong for so long. Why should we listen to them again?

Saying the mess in Iraq is President Obama’s fault ignores what President Bush did wrong. Saying it is President Bush’s fault is to ignore all the horrible foreign policy decisions in Syria, Libya, Egypt and elsewhere under President Obama, many of which may have contributed to the current crisis in Iraq. For former Bush officials to blame President Obama or for Democrats to blame President Bush only serves as a reminder that both sides continue to get foreign policy wrong. We need a new approach, one that emulates Reagan’s policies, puts America first, seeks peace, faces war reluctantly, and when necessary acts fully and decisively.

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The Cheneys snarl about “appeasing our enemies,” “abandoning our allies,” and “apologizing for our great nation,” as if it was the 2004 Republican National Convention all over again. Paul, with the exception of one somewhat intemperate paragraph asking “Why should we listen to them again?”, approaches the question with an assumption of personal and national humility, a sense that American knowledge of (and power to shape) fluid events in the Middle East has limitations, as does American appetite for making the kind of commitments that the Cheneys of the world constantly seek…

This is a pretty clearly defined fork in the road for GOP foreign policy. As Rand Paul put it to me last August, when the elective war under debate was Syria, “We’re losing, on a good day, 70/30 among the Republicans [in the Senate]. But we win every day among the grassroots, probably 80/20, 90/10.” How—if at all—those numbers converge will tell us much about the fortunes of the Republican Party, and of the country.

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Part of the rationale for giving people who got Iraq wrong last time the chance to explain why this intervention is different is that they may be right. Supporting the Iraq invasion was an unusually big mistake, but sooner or later, almost everyone who offers opinions about war makes mistakes. Ted Kennedy opposed overthrowing Manuel Noriega. Colin Powell opposed the Gulf War, as did most Democrats in Congress. Jimmy Carter thought it such a bad idea that he urged other nations to reject authorization for force at the UN. Michael Moore opposed NATO’s military intervention in Kosovo. The Nation called it a “careless, cowardly and destructive war.” In the run-up to the 2003 Iraq invasion, in fact, some hawks did exactly what Waldman is doing now. They urged the public to “ignore those who got it all wrong” when they opposed successful military actions in the 1990s.

If accurately forecasting the last war were a reliable guide to accurately forecasting the next one, foreign policy would be a lot simpler. In fact, American history is littered with people who looked prescient one moment and foolish the next: critics of World War I who therefore opposed American entry into World War II; champions of World War II who therefore supported America’s war in Vietnam; champions of the Balkan interventions who therefore supported America’s invasion of Iraq.

The point is that everyone—whether they got the last war right or not—should approach the next one with humility. Everyone should answer for his or her past mistakes but no one should be written out of the debate because of them. Judging by the past century of American foreign policy, it’s precisely when people are most confident history has proven them right that they’re most likely to be wrong.

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This I know: America has made profound — and far more costly — mistakes at the beginning of virtually every war. The opening months of World War II were a national nightmare, rendered more palatable to the public only through large-scale censorship that sometimes blocked the American people’s knowledge of defeats that cost more lives in one night than America would lose in entire years in Iraq or Afghanistan. In the Korean War, profound diplomatic and intelligence failures led to headlong retreats and mass-scale slaughters of unprepared soldiers. In the Civil War, poor tactics and dreadful leadership almost destroyed the nation less than one century after its founding, as a Union with immense manpower and industrial benefits arguably came within a few improper orders and missed battlefield opportunities from crumbling in the face of the Army of Northern Virginia. The list of horrifying mistakes could go on, but — as I just said — war is hard, the enemy always has a vote, and sometimes only cruel experience can teach us the right lessons…

We are all responsible for our words and actions. Even though my influence is minimal (especially compared to my colleagues posting here on NRO and syndicated nationally) I sometimes agonize over individual words in blog posts. And I still think every day about the choices I made in Iraq. But if I’m responsible — as a supporter of the war from the beginning and a veteran of that same conflict — for what I say and do, so are the victory lappers. And I would not trade places with a group that helped manufacture the “war weariness” that gripped an American public that has, apart from a tiny minority, sacrificed nothing for this conflict and would continue to sacrifice nothing even if we maintained the small force in Iraq necessary to secure our gains.

You helped America leave, and in so doing, you helped waste the sacrifice of those few who served.

Your moral superiority is misplaced.

Your victory lap is grotesque.

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Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul told conservative activists Friday that hawkish Republicans have mistakenly concluded that U.S. military intervention is a sign of American strength…

“Reagan spoken often of peace through strength. I hear that some in our nation, some in our party have forgotten the first part of the sentence,” Paul said. “Peace should be our goal even as we build our strength. Some in my party have distorted the belief of peace through strength into the misguided belief that we should project strength through war.”

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I think the same questions could be asked of those who supported the Iraq War. You know, were they right in their predictions? Were there weapons of mass destruction there? That’s what the war was sold on. Was democracy easily achievable? Was the war won in 2005, when many of these people said it was won? They didn’t really, I think, understand the civil war that would break out. And what’s going on now — I don’t blame on President Obama. Has he really got the solution? Maybe there is no solution. But I do blame the Iraq War on the chaos that is in the Middle East. I also blame those who are for the Iraq War for emboldening Iran.

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Via MFP.

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Good morning, gonna’ be a nasty hot and humid day…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:49 AM

bluegill on June 21, 2014 at 5:11 AM

I’m asking straight up. Did you post comments as frank and make those comments about my wife?

hawkdriver on June 21, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Posting again so you see.

Yes or no?

hawkdriver on June 21, 2014 at 9:51 AM

Good morning, gonna’ be a nasty hot and humid day…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Here too. I see you survived the night.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Here too. I see you survived the night.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Yep. That last one was the worst of them…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Yep. That last one was the worst of them…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Just heard this on the radio, thought of you. Great song. Whatever happened to Chi Coltrane?

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 10:29 AM

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 10:29 AM

Good one, forgot all about her…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Just staying up to date on the VA hospital scandal….

80% of senior execs got performance bonuses last year

The VA began a new quality initiative on May 21 and will be reporting outcomes bimonthly

70,000 Vets off waiting lists and being seen at clinics. This is between May 15 and June 1. Are these numbers accurate? Did the VA have this kind of potential all along and fail to use it until the scandal broke?

lineholder on June 21, 2014 at 10:42 AM

lineholder on June 21, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Too little too late for KWR’s late husband…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Too little too late for KWR’s late husband…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 10:45 AM

I know, and it breaks my heart to think of it, too. Hopefully the number of people who go through that kind of experience will be reduced by having this scandal come to light.

lineholder on June 21, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Good one, forgot all about her…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Apparently, she is making a comeback. Weird. And, she’s from ‘Sconsin, too! Cool.

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Too little too late for KWR’s late husband…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 10:45 AM

I know, and it breaks my heart to think of it, too.

lineholder on June 21, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Agree, what a horrible thing to do to our vets in general and it’s incomprehensible what happened to KWR’s husband.

Fallon on June 21, 2014 at 11:05 AM

bluegill on June 21, 2014 at 5:11 AM

I’m asking straight up. Did you post comments as frank and make those comments about my wife?

hawkdriver on June 21, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Posting again so you see.

Yes or no?

hawkdriver on June 21, 2014 at 9:51 AM

…its too easy to answer yes or no hawk…but “I come here for the comments” can never answer questions/comments directed to “her” no matter how many times you ask them in the same thread…(and you know her phone is taped to the end of her nose for picking purposes!)
She’ll go back on a thread days later, to see if some one has responded to her. Set your sun dial son!

JugEarsButtHurt on June 21, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Good morning, gonna’ be a nasty hot and humid day…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:49 AM
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Here too. I see you survived the night.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM

.
Yep. That last one was the worst of them…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 9:54 AM

.
Sorry I’m late getting back to you . . . . . have the streams gone down, yet?

listens2glenn on June 21, 2014 at 12:07 PM

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 4:56 AM

morning
never hiked it.. but I know a little about it..
follows the Miami-Erie canal I think by you
circles the whole state..
runs thru Piqua and Fort Loramie then St Mary when it passes you..
I know a lot more about the race track you have
than the trails.. mid-ohio.. Columbus speedway.. Toledo speedway
findley.. Zanesville .. Dayton…and a dozen others..
they have a ton of short dirt ovals in ohio..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 1:31 PM

The reason I was thinking about the trail is that we have a book for sale on it. I was typing something up for the blog. Our curator has hiked a lot of it. There’s a track called Eldora(?).

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 2:00 PM

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Eldora is one of the best dirt tracks in the country.. maybe THE best..
Tony Stewart owns it… (Smoke)..
WOO (world of outlaw) NASCAR Trucks.. Midgets.. Sprints.. all race there..
it is just west of you I think… have you been there?? you should go..
(I know where Eldora is…im not sure of your house)
Eldora is here..

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3215883,-84.6307917,3944m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

ps..one tip while attending Dirt races… cover your beverage..
or you will end up with a mud sludge in the bottom of your glass..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 2:28 PM

you did see this…right?

http://www.buckeyetrail.org/overview.php

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 2:31 PM

http://www.na-motorsports.com/Tracks/OH/#DirtOvalTracks

Ohio race tracks…
Ohio is big on speed..!!

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM

todays racing news..

Alex Tagliani is on the pole at Road America..(race is live on TV now ABC)

Jamie McMurray is on the pole for Sonoma (race is tomorrow)

and in a shocker…Felipe Massa is on the pole in F1 Austria (race is tomorrow)

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 3:07 PM

The only way I know Eldora exists is ads on tv. Not sure where it is. There used to be one at Heidelerg near Pittsburgh. We could hear it from our house in summer.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Eldora is 6 miles west of Fort Loramie..
isn’t that close to you?

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM

if Eldora was that close to me..I’d have season tickets.. :)
you should go.. you’d have a great time…
the noise.. smell… rubber n dirt…
bring a lawn chair and a cooler they have
lovely grass laws to watch from..

Tony has done a great job with the place since he bought it..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Eldora is 6 miles west of Fort Loramie..
isn’t that close to you?

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM

New Weston address. Almost in Indiana. I had a cousin that lived there. Birt’s Store. They used to have different kinds of apples.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Eldora is a mile south of New Weston…

I see a lot of chicken growing going on near there..
I’ll have to look harder to see the apple trees..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Eldora is a mile south of New Weston…

I see a lot of chicken growing going on near there..
I’ll have to look harder to see the apple trees..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Lots of chickens west of here. I’m not sure Birt’s is even still there and I don’t know if they were their trees.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Harry Birt’s Store has a Facebook page. I haven’t been there in years. Amazing the places I haven’t been.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 3:41 PM

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 3:39 PM

I still see Bins infront of the store..
looks like they still sell produce of some kind

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 3:42 PM

birt’s facebook page…

ppl are still posting on it..

https://www.facebook.com/HarryBirtsStore

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 3:47 PM

mmmm… bins of candies.. :o)

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 3:49 PM

I haven’t used street view for awhile. I looked up a couple of places like the house we used to live in but most places weren’t on it. I’ll have to look again. The farm where my father grew up isn’t very photogenic. A disappointment to me. My cousin keeps updating things. The farm is still in the family since 1847. This is only the fourth owner and the third is still living.

I have looked at the satellite pictures. A guy who is really into local history claims he can see where the fort might have been by the satellite picture. We live on the Greenville Treaty line and they found where the jog in it is and are going to have a ceremony.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM

I love the satellite views..
I am colorblind .. so the shades n shadows stand out..
I also went to see the house I grew up in Detroit..
70-80% of the homes on the block are gone… ours was too…
its sad to see what has gone on down in Detroit…:(
but I am very good with the sat pics..
if you ever need me to find ya something just ask..
I could look for the fort if you would like me too..???

(I found Birt’s in less than 2 minutes)

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 4:07 PM

would that be fort Loramie?? or fort Recovery ??..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Videos about Jon McNaughton’s political paintings….

Liberalism is a Disease

Obamanation

Wake Up America

lineholder on June 21, 2014 at 4:17 PM

hard land to read, as the farmers have tilled most of it up…
you could have had a fort site that got tilled under 100 years ago..
could be very hard to find..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 4:18 PM

More videos about Jon McNaughton’s political paintings….

The Forgotten Man

One Nation Under God

The Angel of Liberty George Washington’s vision

lineholder on June 21, 2014 at 4:24 PM

More videos about Jon McNaughton’s political paintings….

The Empowered Man

One Nation Under Socialism

Mending the Nation

lineholder on June 21, 2014 at 4:30 PM

wow COL tons of cool history down your way..
(have you guys renamed each town and sports team yet to be PC??)

http://ohsweb.ohiohistory.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=806

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Sorry I’m late getting back to you . . . . . have the streams gone down, yet?

listens2glenn on June 21, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Haven’t checked yep, been away from tech/news all day…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 4:36 PM

good to see you made it thru the night OC..cheers
more storms for today??
there is a line forming from Denver to Rapid City..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 4:48 PM

good to see you made it thru the night OC..cheers
more storms for today??
there is a line forming from Denver to Rapid City..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 4:48 PM

The Missouri River can’t handle much more…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 4:57 PM

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 4:57 PM

then I shouldn’t tell you that it is raining at the headwaters
in Three Forks Montana…
they also have had some snows…
my riverflow maps show the Madison, Jefferson and Galatian
are all average.. as well as the Yellowstone…
average so far… I cant see what’s melting or how much..
Montana streamflow data
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/mt/nwis/current?type=flow

the bad news is.. over by you the Missouri is at almost 3 times
average flow…
Missouri River at Omaha, NE 06/21 16:00 CDT 27.29 92,900 37,700
the average is 37,700 cfs… cubic feet per second
currently its at 92,900 cfs…
so its deep and swift and dangerous..

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/ne/nwis/current/?type=flow

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:08 PM

would that be fort Loramie?? or fort Recovery ??..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Loramie.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 5:15 PM

wow COL tons of cool history down your way..
(have you guys renamed each town and sports team yet to be PC??)

http://ohsweb.ohiohistory.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=806

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Most of these towns were renamed somewhere along the way.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 5:21 PM

COL..
here is a bunch of maps for you to see where the line was..

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Greenville+Treaty+Line+Map&id=6FC2548244936FC54A1C598CBBF9EECB89FD1779&FORM=IQFRBA#a

I would say the jog in the line is about where the Miami river
and mud creek merge..
just south west of Loramie Lake

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:22 PM

sorry Mile Creek…not mud

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM

I don’t expect Hagfish will ever give hawk an honest answer…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM

I think it’s rather naive to think any response to Hawkdriver would be truthful Omaha. What’s she going to say? “Yes Hawkdriver I am Frank and a bunch of others as well. Yes I said all sorts of nasty stuff to you.” But like I said last night. If this place goes Disqus it’s over for me. But that’s the way it goes. It’s not my business. And I wonder how many dump trucks of money would make me sell out. And the answer is 1. Especially seeing as how money is worth much less these days.

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Sybil..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 5:33 PM

I remember some of MM’s first threads an posts..
she was so excited to have a venue and a voice..
didn’t sound like money was on her mind at all..
but alas ..
all things come down to the almighty buck..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:49 PM

I would say the jog in the line is about where the Miami river
and mud creek merge..
just south west of Loramie Lake

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:22 PM

You know how it was in the old days. They used trees as markers apparently not realizing that someday the trees would be gone. This one was a sycamore. They buried a copper stake. They found one at Ft. Recovery but this one hasn’t been found. Some guy obsessive about surveying has been surveying the treaty line with the help of a couple of local guys. They plan to put a monument there.

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 5:51 PM

I don’t expect Hagfish will ever give hawk an honest answer…

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM

She can’t be honest. Because then she’d have to admit she’s an imperfect human being who’s committed deceit. Her narcissistic ego will not allow that.

Sybil..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:37 PM

I’ve dealt with 2 people in my life whom I knew had MPD. It was interesting to deal with them. =)

non-nonpartisan on June 21, 2014 at 5:53 PM

I remember some of MM’s first threads an posts..
she was so excited to have a venue and a voice..
didn’t sound like money was on her mind at all..
but alas ..
all things come down to the almighty buck..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:49 PM

And I cannot fault anyone for chasing the American dream. In any legal way possible. Were I Michelle I’d be hard-pressed to not cave to cold hard cash. The country’s screwed anyhow. Fighting for a bunch of idiots who put Obama in for round 2? Might as well get what you can when you can.

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 5:57 PM

I think they call it DID now..

“characterized by at least two distinct and relatively enduring identities or dissociated personality states that alternately control a person’s behavior, and is accompanied by memory impairment for important information not explained by ordinary forgetfulness.”

anything in there sound familiar??

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:59 PM

non-nonpartisan on June 21, 2014 at 5:53 PM

being a bit of a loon… I get along with loons quite well
stupidity is what drives me nuts.. the complete inability it
see…hear.. or understand the reality, facts and truth..

full blown crazy is way above my pay grade..

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 6:02 PM

anything in there sound familiar??

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Frankly I think we’re over-analyzing the whole situation. She’s simply a d1ck and nothing more.

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 6:03 PM

I think they call it DID now..

“characterized by at least two distinct and relatively enduring identities or dissociated personality states that alternately control a person’s behavior, and is accompanied by memory impairment for important information not explained by ordinary forgetfulness.”

anything in there sound familiar??

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Of course. =)

Online however, it isn’t as easy to tell if someone’s playing a game or not. One of the people I was talking about I did meet online, about 15 years ago, but she was really sweet and honest with me. We had really good discussions about her issues with MPD/DID. We talked about meeting in person, but that never came about.

The other person is a friend of mine whom I had known for years before I figured out she was suffering from the ailment. It took her a long time to trust me enough to let her guard down around me. It was incredibly interesting to talk to her different “personalities.”

non-nonpartisan on June 21, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 5:57 PM

I don’t blame MM one bit…agreed its the American dream..
however if someone sold you KFC..
would you change the secret recipe??
what happened to Harley when they sold to AMF…
darn near drove em outa the biz…
just because the middle of the road may have more ppl in it..
I would like to see the model that shows they will post more..

isn’t the middle where the “undecided” live..??
they follow a blog??..
don’t they make up their minds the night before the vote..er some such stuff..
I always thought the middle was out golfing or buying shoes..
really not interested one way or the other,,
will they post more or less.??
I guess were gonna see.. shrugs

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM

crankyoldlady on June 21, 2014 at 5:51 PM

I just saw this one…sorry..
have you asked any millwrights near you if they found your
copper stake??..
if they hit it with a saw they might remember it..
could be in some piece of furniture or a house by now..
as the maps look like 80-90% of the trees were cleared..

I suppose its stupid to ask if you searched Fort Loramie Park?
looks like they have some old trees..
I would guess you say Sycamore because you read that somewhere..
old document maybe or book..?
maybe it was misidentified ??
I would check every old tree within a mile…
just a guess

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 6:33 PM

I should get some stuff done here today..
thanks for the afternoon of history COL..
too much WOT on the guppy part…cheers all

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 6:36 PM

anything in there sound familiar??

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Frankly I think we’re over-analyzing the whole situation. She’s simply a d1ck and nothing more.

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 6:03 PM

If no one is forcing anyone’s participation in the discussion, let them shoot the breeze, I say. =)

Personally, I think it’s fine and dandy to wonder about “her” mental state, and the motivations of the different trolling socks around here. I don’t believe it gets to the “overanalyzing” stage until someone starts to get emotional about their speculations, or until it starts to take their time away from something else they’d really rather be doing.

non-nonpartisan on June 21, 2014 at 6:49 PM

going2mars on June 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Don’t forget Fender selling to CBS. Guitars were garbage during their tenure. But as far as the blog goes? Perhaps they are attempting to appeal to more readers somehow. The coolrepublicas and whatnot.

non-nonpartisan on June 21, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Oh I still enjoy watching her nonsense. I admit to making fun of her myself. ;)

Judge_Dredd on June 21, 2014 at 8:35 PM

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