IRS commissioner tells Congress the agency owes no apologies

posted at 2:01 pm on June 20, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Really? Not even just a little bit, just to say, “Sorry about the whole not-retaining-our-records-when-we-demand-that-you-do” sort of thing? IRS Commissioner John Koskinen asserted that the IRS owes no apologies for the curious epidemic of hard-drive failures among officials involved in the targeting scheme, whose e-mails Congress has spent the last year-plus demanding from the IRS:

CAMP: What I didn’t hear in that was an apology to this committee.

KOSKINEN: I don’t think an apology is owed. There are not a single e-mail has been lost since the start of this investigation. Every e-mail has been preserved that we have. WE have produced or will produce by the end of this –

CAMP: You don’t think the time period between January 2009 and April 2011 is relevant to this investigation?

Note well that smirk on Koskinen’s face as he proclaims this, too. We’ll get back to the qualifier Koskinen uses in a moment. Katie Pavlich followed the hearing and reported the exchange on Twitter:

Fox had more:

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen said Friday there is no need for his agency to apologize amid accusations of a cover-up in the targeting scandal of conservative groups after claims surfaced that ex-official Lois Lerner’s hard drive was destroyed and emails from several other officials also have gone missing. …

Committee Republicans now say that the IRS may have known about this for months, and that the agency may have lost emails from another six employees.

“The IRS in charge of hundreds of millions of taxpayers’ information. And you’re now saying your technology system was so poor that years’ worth of emails are forever unrecoverable?” Camp charged. “How does that put anyone at ease? How far would the excuse ‘I lost it’ get with the IRS for an average American trying to file their yearly taxes who may have lost a few receipts.”

Read Noah’s post for a litany of reasons why the IRS owes the American public an apology. They may owe one to Orrin Hatch as well. He met with Koskinen on Monday to discuss the sudden revelation of the hard-drive crash in Lois Lerner’s computer, and now says that Koskinen never mentioned during that conversation that six other drives had been similarly destroyed:

Hatch fired off a letter to Koskinen on Thursday voicing concerns that he met with him on Monday, yet the commissioner and his staff did not mention that emails from six other employees might be missing.

Koskinen’s still not sure how many e-mails are missing, either:

The commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service refused to apologize to Congress for losing e-mails related to its targeting of conservative groups, saying it’s still attempting to recover the data and it’s too soon to know how many e-mails are missing.

“I don’t think an apology is owed,” Commissioner John Koskinen told the House Ways and Means Committee. “Every e-mail has been preserved that we have.”

Translation: We’ve dutifully saved everything that we, er, saved. Does that fly in a tax audit? I’d bet that smirk wouldn’t. Don’t be surprised if this declaration becomes a hot topic in Monday’s Oversight hearing.


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dpduq on June 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM

IRS commissioner tells Congress the agency owes no apologies

Folks, if the IRS contacts you, DO NOT try this at home.

Only our overlords are ‘entitled’ to such.

Resist We Much on June 20, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Arrogance.

CRIMINAL arrogance.

Athos on June 20, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Boycott your taxes in 2015. That’s the only way to fix this system.

crrr6 on June 20, 2014 at 2:04 PM

In fact, we should be thanking the IRS.

portlandon on June 20, 2014 at 2:05 PM

The IRS is polluted with Progressives!

Get Rid of The IRS NOW!!

Lying scumhags…

Le Spit

Scrumpy on June 20, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Get a rope…

JohnGalt23 on June 20, 2014 at 2:05 PM

IRS means never having to say you’re sorry…

djl130 on June 20, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Jay Carney’s dad looks like Koskinen.

22044 on June 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Did we really expect them to produce the evidence that would prove their guilt? I sure didn’t.

Othniel on June 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Federal agency commits several federal crimes. No apology necessary.

Duly noted.

gwelf on June 20, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Show him the noose…

PatriotRider on June 20, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Can we get this weasel arrested already?

dogsoldier on June 20, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Folks, if the IRS contacts you, DO NOT try this at home.

Only our overlords are ‘entitled’ to such.

Resist We Much on June 20, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Surely if a serf told the IRS that they lost their records or would respond in a couple of years the IRS would be understand.

The IRS is chock full of “public servants” afterall.

gwelf on June 20, 2014 at 2:08 PM

The beatings should commence in earnest.

And continue until morale improves.

Buck Farky on June 20, 2014 at 2:08 PM

If conservatives had any spine we would march on the IRS building and occupy it like the left always does, but instead we will grumble about it online and do nothing.

ClassicCon on June 20, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Just like his repellant predecessor Douglass Schulman.

More Schulman tripping down memory lane.

Here’s another IRS commissioner, Steven Miller, denying any illegality.

aquaviva on June 20, 2014 at 2:09 PM

I want to start seeing gallows being built on the Mall…

PatriotRider on June 20, 2014 at 2:09 PM

This IRS debacle is very enlightening.

We now know for certain that the left – including the media – like government corruption.

And we know that the bureaucracies themselves are completely incapable of admitting to corruption or doing anything about it and believe in being unaccountable and opaque.

gwelf on June 20, 2014 at 2:09 PM

I’m surprised Koskinen didn’t say, “Expect audits of yourselves and your campaign committees for every year we can think of, and if you don’t like that, I’ll audit your extended families too.”

Steve Eggleston on June 20, 2014 at 2:10 PM

So partisan democrat hack didn’t apologize for actions of other partisan democrat hacks. Shocker! Guess, we should be grateful he didn’t blame the actions of the IRS hacks on republicans and call the GOP committee members racists on the way out.

HumpBot Salvation on June 20, 2014 at 2:10 PM

There’s not enough rope at The Home Depot to hang all of these scumbags…

PatriotRider on June 20, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Come on you sorryassed weasely damn GOPe, get off yer asses and DO somthing to stop all this criminal activity!!

WTF are you waiting on?

Santa Claus to hand these progs to you on a sliver platter?

Sheesh for crying out loud.

Enough Already!!

Scrumpy on June 20, 2014 at 2:10 PM

This wormy little man could only exist and thrive in the Obama regime.

rplat on June 20, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Time to repeal the amendment that authorized the income tax a century ago.

Get rid of these SOB scumbags

txdoc on June 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Obviously, Koskinen doesn’t believe that the IRS is accountable and responsible to either Congress (the elected Representatives for the American people) or the American people.

That’s why no apology is forthcoming or due. They are above accountability and responsibility.

During the Cold War, one of the jokes was – What is the English translation of KGB? The answer – IRS.

Today, it’s true.

Athos on June 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM

This arrogant pr!ck needs to be sued into financial ruin. No letup until he’s foraging in dumpsters with Lois Lerner for his daily bread.

CurtZHP on June 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM

…handcuffs… shame faced… shirt tails flying… ushered into waiting van…

Akzed on June 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM

So when will the GOP defund the IRS? Or if we control the White House in 2016 (along with the House and Senate), can we eliminate the IRS?

skilaki on June 20, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Flat Tax…

PatriotRider on June 20, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Dem Rep. Earl Blumenauer Blames Government Shutdown For Lost IRS Emails…

Yep./

Resist We Much on June 20, 2014 at 2:07 PM

I noted on one of the other threads that earlier in the week, I was joking around the fact that come today, one of the reasons offered for the lost emails would be because of sequestration, the government shutdown, or both. In his lying today, Koskinen attempted to blame the rash of failed hard drives on the IRS outdated technology and insufficient funding….but this one is even more ‘priceless’.

When it comes to the Dem and GOP parties, it’s stupid and damn stupid parties…and the Dems own the damn stupid title.

Athos on June 20, 2014 at 2:15 PM

This arrogant pr!ck needs to be sued into financial ruin. No letup until he’s foraging in dumpsters with Lois Lerner for his daily bread.

CurtZHP on June 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM

I’d prefer to hear that they turned up in a dumpster.

crrr6 on June 20, 2014 at 2:15 PM

oscarwailde raised the possibility that the RINO leadership is as complicit in this subterfuge as the 0b00baists. Neither have lost any love for tea party types, which holds them in equally low regard.

Akzed on June 20, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Unaccountable bureaucrats out of control. Hold him in contempt and put him in the house jail until the emails are found.

Ellis on June 20, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Why should the IRS apologize? There’s nothing wrong with following and carrying out the Emperor God-King’s decrees.

Jedditelol on June 20, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Steve Eggleston on June 20, 2014 at 2:10 PM

One doesn’t always have to say the obvious….

Athos on June 20, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Why are these idiot republicans still fixated on the hard drives? They’re gone! Move on!

Sequester their servers and backup tapes.

redzap on June 20, 2014 at 2:16 PM

CAMP: What I didn’t hear in that was an apology to this committee.

KOSKINEN: I don’t think an apology is owed. There are not a single e-mail has been lost since the start of this investigation. Every e-mail has been preserved that we have. WE have produced or will produce by the end of this –

CAMP: You don’t think the time period between January 2009 and April 2011 is relevant to this investigation?

Note well that smirk on Koskinen’s face as he proclaims this, too.

Translates to

We rule, and will rule forever. In the name of Social Justice and Utopian Perfection.

So f**k you.

clear ether

eon

eon on June 20, 2014 at 2:16 PM

“I don’t think any additional taxes are owed. I reported all the income that I declared.”

J.S.K. on June 20, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Who put Davros in charge of the IRS?

Red Creek on June 20, 2014 at 2:18 PM

We now know that we are allowed to lose up to seven hard drives of information without harm to our tax claims.

I would assume that we are talking about four terabyte drives at a minimum. That’s twenty eight terabytes for those who can’t do the math.

Of course, left unsaid is whether the terabytes are based on based on 1000-byte increments or 1024-byte increments. I’ll take 1024, thank you.

unclesmrgol on June 20, 2014 at 2:18 PM

I’d prefer to hear that they turned up in a dumpster.

crrr6 on June 20, 2014 at 2:15 PM

I prefer the Jimmy Hoffa treatment…

PatriotRider on June 20, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Flat Tax…

PatriotRider on June 20, 2014 at 2:14 PM

It must be done. This is especially personal to me since I got hit with an audit almost immediately after joining the NRA for a return from 3 years prior. Either this gets fixed or it’s going to end in violence.

crrr6 on June 20, 2014 at 2:19 PM

oscarwilde raised the possibility that the RINO leadership is as complicit in this subterfuge as the 0b00baists. Neither have lost any love for tea party types, which holds them in equally low regard.

Akzed on June 20, 2014 at 2:15 PM

The proof is in the pudding.

How many ‘investigations’ have we all seen started, all with no real conclusion, no one fired, no one going to jail…

Sure the GOPe is complicit, they getting their ‘readies’ also, so why fcuk up a good thing?

It’s all smoke and mirrors, subterfuge, appeasement for the Sheeple.

Hey folks! Look what we are doing over here and there…

Le Spit

Scrumpy on June 20, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Translation: We’ve dutifully saved everything that we, er, saved.

Improved Translation: We’ve dutifully saved everything that we want to be found that we, er, saved. And those damning, incriminating e-mails that would blow this whole scandal wide open will never be found ’cause crashed hard drives and all that.

parke on June 20, 2014 at 2:20 PM

They are clearly trying to goad our people into doing and/or saying stupid things.

ALINSKY RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)

It’s possible they have deleted the emails just to provoke a reaction. Just like the faked-up (but real) birth certificate they produced.

faraway on June 20, 2014 at 2:20 PM

The feral bureaucracy is more of an enemy to the American people than Al Qaeda.

rbj on June 20, 2014 at 2:20 PM

It must be done. This is especially personal to me since I got hit with an audit almost immediately after joining the NRA for a return from 3 years prior. Either this gets fixed or it’s going to end in violence.

crrr6 on June 20, 2014 at 2:19 PM

We all know in our guts where this is headed…it’s that last word of your post…

PatriotRider on June 20, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Koskinen’s still not sure how many e-mails are missing, either

Well, he’s not sure how many need to be missing at this point, is he?

LilyBart on June 20, 2014 at 2:21 PM

There are not a single e-mail has been lost since the start of this investigation.

Is this a bad transcript of what the commissioner said because it is grammatically flawed. Are not a single email? Then again, he is playing lawyerly parsing games. Not a single email has been lost: in fact there were multiple emails that have been lost.

Slimy weasel.

onlineanalyst on June 20, 2014 at 2:21 PM

This guy bears a resemblance to Gollum

congma on June 20, 2014 at 2:23 PM

FYI – I’m not saying the overall IRS scandal isn’t real. Just saying that some of the crumbs on the ground may be disinformation.

faraway on June 20, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Yeah, and they never send me a thank-you note for busting my butt for all the taxes I send them either…

Tsar of Earth on June 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Why are these idiot republicans still fixated on the hard drives? They’re gone! Move on!

Sequester their servers and backup tapes.

redzap on June 20, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Exactly what I was screaming at the TV.

The laptop hard drive is a distraction. Like a murderer giving the wrong location where he buried a body. So the investigators waste time and allow the criminal to move or destroy more evidence.

The emails and logs are all on the Exchange server as well as the firewall (smtp traffic) and network logs (which you can filter by protocol, i.e. smtp). I believe the tapes are retained for 6 months, but the standard procedure is to send tapes offsite, so they are copied to virtual libraries (and kept for years) and then returned to the IRS where they go back into production and kept for six months in case user needed a restore. If user needed a restore beyond the 6 month period, they procure from offsite.

The Repubs need to speak to an IT pro. They are fishing n the wrong lake.

kevinkristy on June 20, 2014 at 2:25 PM

redzap on June 20, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Tapes.

No, there are no tapes. No one is using tape anymore. This is not 1983. Have the IRS gone through a time warp? Do they use floppies?

dogsoldier on June 20, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Folks, if the IRS contacts you, DO NOT try this at home.

Only our overlords are ‘entitled’ to such.

Resist We Much on June 20, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Not to worry. Anyone who is a criminal who knocks/pounds/breaks down my door get equal treatment.

Turtle317 on June 20, 2014 at 2:26 PM

kevinkristy on June 20, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Several of us have been saying this for over a week. HER PC and HARDDRIVE are A RED HERRING.

dogsoldier on June 20, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Is this just going to be more of this:

Nonspecific GOP Rep: “I’m outraged by the complete lack of respect being showed the American people by the one agency that is most intrusive in their lives. It’s a disgrace!”

Reporter: “What do you plan to do about? What’s next, Congressman?”

Rep: “I’m outraged!”

I suspect that it will.

BKeyser on June 20, 2014 at 2:27 PM

OT

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/putin-speaks-to-iraqi-pm-expresses-support/2014/06/20/97651afa-f897-11e3-af55-076a4c5f20a0_story.html

The Kremlin said in a statement that al-Maliki informed Putin on Friday about his government’s steps to combat the “terrorist groups in the north of the country.” It added that the insurgency threatens security of the entire region.

Putin confirmed Russia’s “full support for the Iraqi government’s action to quickly free the territory of the republic from terrorists,” the Kremlin said, adding that Putin and al-Maliki also discussed bilateral cooperation.

sharrukin on June 20, 2014 at 2:27 PM

“We’ve kept every campaign promise we intend to.”

W.J. Clinton’s lackey George Stephanopolis

HornHiAceDeuce on June 20, 2014 at 2:32 PM

It’s not ARROGANCE.

It is in yo face contempt.

/Obama said he’d get all up in you face. And NOW you are surprised?

Key West Reader on June 20, 2014 at 2:34 PM

The laptop hard drive is a distraction.

kevinkristy on June 20, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Au contraire, mon frere. The destruction of those drives is an overt act, an act, I believe, in the furtherance of a conspiracy to obstruct justice.

Now, we just have to get one of the players to flip…

JohnGalt23 on June 20, 2014 at 2:34 PM

W.J. Clinton’s lackey George Stephanopolis

HornHiAceDeuce on June 20, 2014 at 2:32 PM

This is a douche free thread.

Key West Reader on June 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM

An apology? Who gives a flying crap about an apology, as if an apology would atone for a rogue federal agency targeting American citizens.

Damn you, GOP, you feckless cowardly losers.

Bishop on June 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM

The brazen arrogance shows just how out of control our Federal Government is.

They have the WH giving them the go ahead on illegality while telling them not to worry about Congress. Congress can huff and puff but only Eric Holder can do something about it and Obama has Holder on a choke chain.

WisRich on June 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM

This skank has the look of that guy you just want to punch in the face. Oh, I’d so like to ……

HomeoftheBrave on June 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Damn you, GOP, you feckless cowardly losers.

Bishop on June 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Yo!

/Mitt Romney

Key West Reader on June 20, 2014 at 2:36 PM

I’m done.

Let the war begin.

I’m not kidding.

Midas on June 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM

HomeoftheBrave on June 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Shhhhh. Don’t bully him. Or Nancy Pelosi will visit your dreams.

/Sorry!

Key West Reader on June 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Why is there no select committee?
Why hasn’t this assclown been jailed for contempt of congress?
Why does it appear that republicans are not taking this crime and the cover=up seriously?

paulsur on June 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Now, we just have to get one of the players to flip…

JohnGalt23 on June 20, 2014 at 2:34 PM

And then what?

Obama just says to the GOP “I can see your lips moving and you are trying to say somethin’, but the problem is I don’t speak Little B!tch

What do you think the GOP is gonna do about it?

sharrukin on June 20, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Midas on June 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Meh.

Kim Kardashian’s Butt.

/

Key West Reader on June 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM

The Repubs need to speak to an IT pro. They are fishing n the wrong lake.

kevinkristy on June 20, 2014 at 2:25 PM

As an IT pro, I can say: The data is out there. I know it sounds all X-filey (is that even a word?).

The data is out there. No corrupt, lying politician is going to convince me otherwise.

All is takes is one copy.

Those of us who have had to find the goods, we always found it in email.

Turtle317 on June 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Just another show trial by congressional idiots who have one eye on the witness chair and one eye on their reelection campaign, they’re all blowing smoke and acting tough but NOTHING is going to happen.

Meanwhile vets are still dying for lack of care, the entire mideast is about to become more of a flaming shiitestorm than it already is, diseased third-world douchebags are flooding our southern border, and an arthritic insane woman is clearing her way to the White House.

The GOP can go to hell because they won’t do jack squat about this or any other criminal abuse of Americans by a feral administration.

Bishop on June 20, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Not a smidgen of corruption,
all the computers have been put into a wood chipper,
all the hard drives are melted,
all the servers have been deep fried in oil,
all the senders and receivers have shredded everything,
all ISPs have received dead fish wrapped in NYT from NSA,
all IT experts will have their spouses and kids disappear shortly,
every smidgen is gone,
there is not a smidgen of corruption .

burrata on June 20, 2014 at 2:42 PM

“Look, we saved practically all of the non-incriminating emails. What the hell do you guys want from me?”

ROCnPhilly on June 20, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Au contraire, mon frere. The destruction of those drives is an overt act, an act, I believe, in the furtherance of a conspiracy to obstruct justice.

Now, we just have to get one of the players to flip…

JohnGalt23 on June 20, 2014 at 2:34 PM

I’m not saying that it was not a crime. But focusing on something that is gone, gone, gone is a waste of time – and allows them to cover their tracks.

Find the firewall, server, router, network logs (all these things show traffic on in and out of the network via ip address and protocols uses), get the help desk logs (who worked on her computer, how was it resolved), the forsenics experts names and logs (what is there success rate, who did they contact and work with, phone logs of these people), purchase orders for the new hard drive (if they bought her a new hard drive they had to restore her system and data this would be written up in job order), the company that “recycles” the drives, the serial numbers on drive, the dive manufacturer (find out probability of loss of entire drive), etc. This can be solved.

kevinkristy on June 20, 2014 at 2:43 PM

What do you think the GOP is gonna do about it?

sharrukin on June 20, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Now might be a good time to “OUT” both parties as Progressives….

I choose USAA personally

Key West Reader on June 20, 2014 at 2:43 PM

People who hold Presidential pardons don’t apologize for anything.

BobMbx on June 20, 2014 at 2:45 PM

The IRS is supposed to be independent of the White House, but just like with HHS, now the IRS seems to be defending democrats and the White House, when they are supposed to be non partisan, when they are supposed to be against any partisan actions taken at the IRS. When there is an “appearance” of scandal, they should want to ROOT it out.

It does seem like he is defending libs and it does seem like he is on the defensive instead of being a PARTNER with the Congress in oversight of the IRS.

It is funny that none of them will tell anything to save their own skin, they won’t turn in others or wrong doers. No rats.

A government agency is not supposed to be a democrat government agency, and this symptom is insidious today in the federal government. The party of government workers is the democrats. That combined with union activism, it undermines government

Fleuries on June 20, 2014 at 2:45 PM

the lsm is following the dems talking points…there’s nothing here, just political grandstanding….

shameful

smirking as they are reporting…taking video of the session out of context….

making my blood boil

cmsinaz on June 20, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Now might be a good time to “OUT” both parties as Progressives….

I choose USAA personally

Key West Reader on June 20, 2014 at 2:43 PM

I like your wit KWR!! :)

Scrumpy on June 20, 2014 at 2:46 PM

all IT experts will have their spouses and kids disappear shortly,

burrata on June 20, 2014 at 2:42 PM

They’re welcome to try.

But despite all the data they may have on me, they still don’t know me very well.

Turtle317 on June 20, 2014 at 2:46 PM

JohnGalt23 on June 20, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Yup that’s why the focus…and the Dems are running around coordinating and admitting to the destruction of them …the idiots.
We know how these jackals at the IRS, FEC, DOJ, FBI and WH colluded…and they are still in collusion.

I think ol’ LL spilled the beans last May at that meeting about her activities targeting conservative groups as a warning flag to all her cohorts to start destroying documents posthaste.

gracie on June 20, 2014 at 2:46 PM

What do you think the GOP is gonna do about it?

sharrukin on June 20, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Huff…and PUFF…AND BLOW THE DEMORAT HOUS….

“Hey, is it true that there are creampuffs for dessert today? Ok everyone let’s break for lunch!”

Bishop on June 20, 2014 at 2:47 PM

One of the GOP Congressmen or Senators should ask if the NSA could restore the lost emails. I really mean this as an honest question.

Can the NSA produce the emails? If not, then terrorists need simply act like the IRS to avoid detection.

airupthere on June 20, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Imperious Repulsive Scum

PJ Emeritus on June 20, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Why should Koskinen issue an apology? In his warped little pea-brained mind he’s part of the liberal elite who believe they are exempt from the same laws that apply to all other Americans.

Kingfisher on June 20, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Now might be a good time to “OUT” both parties as Progressives….

I choose USAA personally

Key West Reader on June 20, 2014 at 2:43 PM

The whole thing is a dog and pony show.

The people screaming at how stupid the GOP is to not see the lies and pointing out how easy it would be to get those records are missing the point.

The GOP ain’t the dumb ones.

sharrukin on June 20, 2014 at 2:49 PM

As an IT pro, I can say: The data is out there. I know it sounds all X-filey (is that even a word?).

The data is out there. No corrupt, lying politician is going to convince me otherwise.

All is takes is one copy.

Those of us who have had to find the goods, we always found it in email.

Turtle317 on June 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Same here. Been in networking for 20 years, specifically Microsoft networks (Exchange, SQL, etc). Never in my career have I heard of emails being lost due to a “crash” on a client PC. It’s totally impossible unless you are running your own mail server locally. And no laptop in a enterprise network (especially the IRS) is a lone wolf. This thing was secured and part of the network, signed on to the network, accessed security tokens, file and print, mail etc. So if her hard drive went to the “Cemetary” they had to restore the laptop with her user profile and all data that existed on the server. It’s laughable that people are actually buying this excuse.

kevinkristy on June 20, 2014 at 2:50 PM

It’s laughable that people are actually buying this excuse.

kevinkristy on June 20, 2014 at 2:50 PM

I’m laughing that the excuse was offered in the first place.

I’m sure I can call the IRS and tell them I can help them retrieve that data for them for free… since they can’t afford good equipment *cough*.

I’m waiting for that phone call any minute now.

Turtle317 on June 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM

One of the GOP Congressmen or Senators should ask if the NSA could restore the lost emails. I really mean this as an honest question.

Can the NSA produce the emails? If not, then terrorists need simply act like the IRS to avoid detection.

airupthere on June 20, 2014 at 2:47 PM

If you’re asking the NSA to restore the hard drive it’s highly likely that the hard drive was physically destroyed which would render any restoration process useless.

If you’re asking the NSA to extract the email from its own servers, I’m sure Obama ordered the NSA to stop monitoring the IRS as well as some other agencies. Besides, if the NSA produced the emails then that would confirm Snowden’s claims beyond any doubt and I’m sure Obama doesn’t want any more headaches right now.

Kingfisher on June 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Scrumpy on June 20, 2014 at 2:46 PM

::::Scrumpster:::

I like ya, too. Enjoy your posts.

Key West Reader on June 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM

There’s not enough rope at The Home Depot to hang all of these scumbags…

PatriotRider on June 20, 2014 at 2:10 PM

That’s why you keep the rope short. :)

Doc Holliday on June 20, 2014 at 2:55 PM

The people screaming at how stupid the GOP is to not see the lies and pointing out how easy it would be to get those records are missing the point.

The GOP ain’t the dumb ones.

sharrukin on June 20, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Hence the reason that Eric Holder will never resign.

It’s a free for all in Federal Court while Obama remains in office.

Now, lick the shoes .

Remove him.

Key West Reader on June 20, 2014 at 2:57 PM

I think much of the momentum for this story was lost when right-of-center media took their eyes off the ball and allowed this to become an issue of comparitive scrutiny…tea party groups being targeted while leftist groups left alone. In an effort to show that the IRS was actively and purposely targeting conservatives, they allowed the leftist media to narrow the issue to suggest that the IRS was properly hitting a marginalized and unpopular group…meaning that no one not identifying with the tea party needed to worry. The IRS shouldn’t be targeting ANYONE like this, and the more that the focus shifted to conservative groups as victims, the less people were concerned about the abuse…it’s happening to someone else for specific reason that I don’t identify with, so I can’t be bothered to care because it won’t happen to me.

fitzfong on June 20, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Remove him.

Key West Reader on June 20, 2014 at 2:57 PM

How?

The Republican Party is part of it.

sharrukin on June 20, 2014 at 3:02 PM

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