Open thread: New Obama statement on Iraq at 12:30 ET; Update: Moved to 1:15

posted at 12:01 pm on June 19, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

What might this mean? Six days ago, as ISIS marched on Baghdad, Barack Obama insisted that he would weigh the options for response to this crisis — and then promptly took off for some fundraisers and a round of golf. Yesterday, he briefed Capitol Hill honchos on his thinking, complete with a photo spray, and also told them that he didn’t see the need to get authorization for action, to which the top Congressional leadership concurred. Now Obama wants time in front of the cameras at 12:30 ET this afternoon [Update, 12:50 – moved to 1:15].

If he doesn’t come prepared with a plan, it will be … par for the course, no?

When Obama met with Eric Shinseki the first time, he blew the opportunity to look decisive and presidential, and ended up waiting a week to finally do what everyone knew would have to happen anyway. In a sense, that’s what is dogging Obama here, too. He conducted a presser in the shadow of Marine One to say nothing much at all when the crisis had been unfolding for days already. The only action that Obama took by the end of the weekend was to send 275 Marines for embassy protection and transfers of personnel to Basra and Dubai. The lack of urgency in dealing with ISIS has to have captured the attention of the Iraqis, our allies, and especially our enemies.

According to the AP, the only change will be adding another 100 Green Berets as advisers to the Iraqi armed forces:

That wouldn’t really require a presidential press briefing, would it? The Iraqis have publicly requested American intervention by air, and this might end up being an implicit rejection — a pocket veto, in a way, by just ignoring it.

In a spot of good news (if confirmed), the Iraqis have won the battle for their biggest oil refinery:

Iraqi forces regained full control Thursday of the country’s biggest oil refinery after heavy fighting with Sunni militants attempting to seize it, Agence France-Presse reported officials as saying.

“The security forces are in full control of the Baiji refinery,” Lieutenant General Qassem Atta, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s security spokesman, said in televised remarks.

The announcement came after Iraqi government forces battled Sunni militants for control of the country’s biggest refinery on Thursday as Maliki waited for a U.S. response to an appeal for air strikes to beat back the threat to Baghdad.

The sprawling Baiji refinery, 200 km (130 miles) north of the capital near Tikrit, was a battlefield as troops loyal to the Shiite-led government held off insurgents from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and its allies who had stormed the perimeter a day earlier, threatening national energy supplies.

Live video of Obama’s statement will be here, but don’t expect it to start exactly on time:

Update: Thank you, Captains Obvious:

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and his German counterpart discussed Iraq during a meeting Thursday in which both parties agreed Iraq is “primarily” responsible for dealing with Sunni Islamist insurgents.

“First of all, yes, the movement of [Islamic State in Iraq and Syria] is a real and concrete threat for all of us,” said German Minister of Defense Ursula von der Leyen.

“And we are aware of the fact that of course it’s primarily the Iraq government that is on duty to take care for the security of the country.”

And tsunamis are generally wet, too.

Update: Yep, looks like Iraq’s request for air strikes has either been denied or will wait for a while longer:

Again, not sure why this couldn’t have gone out in a Defense or State briefing.


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FORE!

Roy Rogers on June 19, 2014 at 12:03 PM

More lies!

JugEarsButtHurt on June 19, 2014 at 12:04 PM

The straw man tour continues?

NotCoach on June 19, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Isn’t ruining the country enough for this dog pile?
Could he at least shut up?

justltl on June 19, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Open thread: New Obama statement on Iraq at 12:30 ET

So what is that in real time like 12:50?

Rocks on June 19, 2014 at 12:05 PM

How late will he be this time?

DAT60A3 on June 19, 2014 at 12:05 PM

I wouldn’t watch that azz on a bet. Is that petty of me. You bet.

Cindy Munford on June 19, 2014 at 12:05 PM

That means he won’t be out until at least 1:15 PM…

Del Dolemonte on June 19, 2014 at 12:05 PM

at 12:30 ET

dibs on 1:06

faraway on June 19, 2014 at 12:06 PM

AP reporting: Obama is expected to announce Thursday that he is deploying about 100 Green Berets to Iraq to help train & advise Iraqi forces

Isn’t this what you need when you want to start a war and not after you’ve “ended” ?

Rocks on June 19, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Sorry, but La Celeste vs England is on at noon. El Pistolero against Team Limey is better viewing.

Christien on June 19, 2014 at 12:07 PM

We inherited this situation in Iraq…Boooosh!!

Deano1952 on June 19, 2014 at 12:08 PM

“It’s just some tiny little country”

BigWyo on June 19, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Too late.

The terrorists enter the US via the open Southern border.

The next 30 years will be bloody.

Schadenfreude on June 19, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Impeach Obama?

Obama is goading you, GOP. Can you do something about this lawless dictator? LOL!

Ned Pepper on June 19, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Sorry, but La Celeste vs England is on at noon. El Pistolero against Team Limey is better viewing.

Christien on June 19, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Watching a couple of kids kicking a ball around on a playground would be more enlightening!!

Deano1952 on June 19, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Every time he says, “Status of Forces Agreement,” drink.

Christien on June 19, 2014 at 12:09 PM

obama looks very ill. Ask Pelosi, Boehner and McConnell, not that any of them would have noticed yesterday.

Schadenfreude on June 19, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Sunni Al Qaeda = our enemy
Iran = our enemy
Our enemies killing each other is a good thing isn’t it? Why are we helping anyone in this fight?

paulsur on June 19, 2014 at 12:09 PM

How many times will Dear Leader use the words “Bush” and “Cheney”?

Del Dolemonte on June 19, 2014 at 12:09 PM

He’ll announce that there’s not a hint of criminal activity in the erasure of Lois Lerner’s emails and destruction of her hard drive.

rbj on June 19, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Sorry, but La Celeste vs England is on at noon. El Pistolero against Team Limey is better viewing.

Christien on June 19, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Naw, it’s Columbia vs Ivory Coast at noon. England is at 3 pm.

Rocks on June 19, 2014 at 12:10 PM

dibs on 1:06

faraway on June 19, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Dibs on Obama OG 1′.

Christien on June 19, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Impeach Obama?

Obama is goading you, GOP. Can you do something about this lawless dictator? LOL!

Dick Starkey on June 19, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Some friends and I saw you and the All-Starr Band eating at Davio’s in Boston the other night. How was your arugula salad?

Del Dolemonte on June 19, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Ed,the more important question would be, where is he golfing this weekend?

celtic warrior on June 19, 2014 at 12:11 PM

He’ll announce that there’s not a hint of criminal activity in the erasure of Lois Lerner’s emails and destruction of her hard drive.

rbj on June 19, 2014 at 12:10 PM

He’ll announce that the hard drive the war plans were stored on crashed so the war is over.

Rocks on June 19, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Responsibility Forecast: Partly cloudy with a Smidgen of Bush

Roy Rogers on June 19, 2014 at 12:12 PM

No thanks.

Rational Thought on June 19, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Naw, it’s Columbia vs Ivory Coast at noon. England is at 3 pm.

Rocks on June 19, 2014 at 12:10 PM

You’re right. Best Coast vs. Belly of the Beast Coast time.

Christien on June 19, 2014 at 12:13 PM

He will be telling us to forget what he said last week…

d1carter on June 19, 2014 at 12:13 PM

McCain and his whore, Ms. Lindsey, were on TV “we need to go to Syria and Iraq…” Then some D senator Van Hollen or such, lied through his teeth how the foreign policy low numbers for oaf in chief are due to you and me, because “we no longer come together on foreign policy because we hate obama”.

Hammer asked him to name one success of obama, on foreign policy, and he stammered around and then Bill Hammer said “You have nothing”…and listed all the lands where they failed.

Van Hollen then said “it was the right thing to go into Libya and kill Qadaffi; it’s not our fault that they couldn’t keep their land”…

Hammer reminded him of same in Iraq “oh, that’s different, because…Bush….”

So, on Bush we don’t need to come together, but on obama we do.

One can’t make this up in the best/worst of fiction.

Schadenfreude on June 19, 2014 at 12:14 PM

My speech prediction: Blame bush, blame bush, religion of peace, blame bush, multipolar world, blame bush, blame bush, strawman, global warming, blame bush, weighing all options.

JeremiahJohnson on June 19, 2014 at 12:14 PM

I can’t even IMAGINE the BS that’s going to come out of his mouth. Be certain it will center around his image as a nice guy, and fairness, and splitting the baby, and how it’s not his fault. And lots of Boooosh! I’ll be disappointed if it lacks two extreme straw men, like, he’s not going to be one of those who want to engage in every country on earth, but neither will he be one who is a complete isolationist either. Or how some think war is the answer to every problem in the world. Well, that would be Al Qaeda and the Islamists, but he won’t say THAT.

Someone needs to get the transcript of this and post it. How come we don’t get such source materials at HotGas? I guess you can’t cut and paste a transcript someone else creates, copyright issues. But if it’s 5 minutes, couldn’t someone here transcribe it and post it? What Obama says is such remarkable nonsense, it needs to be put out there and analyzed in detail.

LashRambo on June 19, 2014 at 12:16 PM

More good news!!

Survey: Majority Of Obamacare Enrollees Were Previously Uninsured

More than half of the 8 million people who signed up for health coverage through the insurance marketplaces set up under Obamacare were previously uninsured, according to a survey released Thursday.

The Kaiser Family Foundation found that 57 percent of those who signed up through HealthCare.gov and its state counterparts did not have insurance prior to signing up. Among the others: 16 percent already had an individual market plan, 14 percent had employer-sponsored insurance and 9 percent were covered by a public program like Medicaid.

The question of how many of the 8 million Obamacare enrollees had previously had insurance was a common one among Republicans earlier this year, many of whom charged that most of the enrollees were simply replacing an old plan. But the Kaiser poll is one of the most thorough attempts yet to gauge whether the law had significantly cut into America’s uninsured ranks.

Those with Obamacare-compliant coverage also generally like their coverage and view it as a good value, according to the Kaiser poll: 71 percent said it was excellent or good coverage and 55 percent said that it was an excellent or good value.

And how do those previously uninsured enrollees feel about Obamacare? 53 percent said they had a very or somewhat favorable opinion of the law.

The survey, conducted from April 3 to May 11, covered 742 U.S. adults who purchase their own insurance. Among marketplace enrollees, the margin-of-error is 6 percentage points.

Ned Pepper on June 19, 2014 at 12:16 PM

I’d rather perform my own colonoscopy than listen to this, but if anyone else is interested, it will start at 12:30 12:45 or later.

22044 on June 19, 2014 at 12:16 PM

My speech prediction: Blame bush, blame bush, religion of peace, blame bush, multipolar world, blame bush, blame bush, strawman, global warming, blame bush, weighing all options.

JeremiahJohnson on June 19, 2014 at 12:14 PM

You forgot “obstructionist house and senate republicans” and “this is a distaction”.

Oh, and “Let me be clear……”

BacaDog on June 19, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Survey: Majority Of Previously Uninsured People Not Enrolled in the Unaffordable Uncaring Act

Ned Pepper on June 19, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Headline edited for accuracy. :)
Rest redacted for going unnecessarily OT.

22044 on June 19, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Well, you can be sure about one thing, whatever the scumbag in chief decides to do, it will be either the completely wrong thing or something totally ineffective.

That’s what he does and is, a completely ineffective, destructive, progressive socialist. In other words, 200% useless.

Diluculo on June 19, 2014 at 12:18 PM

This is very interesting: (watch the embedded video)

djl130 on June 19, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Wonder if he will mention the Canadian gov’t okaying the pipeline from Alberta to the Pacific coast? Just joking I know he will never bring that up. He probably will tell us he needs more time concerning Iraq.

garydt on June 19, 2014 at 12:19 PM

AP reporting: Obama is expected to announce Thursday that he is deploying about 100 Green Berets to Iraq to help train & advise Iraqi forces

Say, didn’t we have troops there doing just that not long ago?

Chuck Schick on June 19, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Now watch this drive

cmsinaz on June 19, 2014 at 12:19 PM

This speech will be at least 2 hours late.

It will have a lot of “uhs” and “ums”, whistling noises, and at least one “let me be clear” and a “period”.

It won’t say a damn thing and he will be off to the golf course.

ConstantineXI on June 19, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Ned Pepper on June 19, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Ned, may I call you Ned?, you are a moron.

VegasRick on June 19, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Democrats supported the joint resolution 58% and 39% in the Senate and House respectively.

Schadenfreude on June 19, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Why not DOD?

Then the president wouldn’t look like a leader ……wolfie and tingles Ned something to praise about today

cmsinaz on June 19, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Will anyone bring up the irs

cmsinaz on June 19, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Failed leadership for all to witness. 0 has lost the American trust.

Bmore on June 19, 2014 at 12:23 PM

1247 hrs – Rose Garden: Barky enters

After Applause from the Media; Barky Speaks

At 1200 hrs local time I ordered US Fighter planes from undisclosed locations to conduct both bombing and straffing sorties on the ISIS rebels. I have destroyed ISIS and the crisis is now over! Have I mentioned that I am awesome yet today?

1248 hrs End of Media Availability

D-fusit on June 19, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Will Marine One again be revving up in the background to whisk him off on another golf outing?

Naturally Curly on June 19, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Yup he’ll bring up Bush nevermind his mission accomplished speech in 11

cmsinaz on June 19, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Ned Pepper on June 19, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Kaiser’s an Obamacare advocacy group, you dumbass.

Chuck Schick on June 19, 2014 at 12:25 PM

A fashionably late president is awesome!

lib/

Key phrases to look for:

1. “There have been/will be those who say…”
2. “Let me be clear…”
3. “Make no mistake…”
4. “It won’t happen overnight…”
5. “Change isn’t easy…”

Is it too early in the day for a drinking game?

Aizen on June 19, 2014 at 12:26 PM

You’ve never heard of a country crashing before?

Christien on June 19, 2014 at 12:26 PM

“I inherited”

“Former Administration”

portlandon on June 19, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Everyone relax! Obama’s sending in John Kerry!

Jack_Burton on June 19, 2014 at 12:27 PM

AP reporting: Obama is expected to announce Thursday that he is deploying about 100 Green Berets to Iraq to help train & advise Iraqi forces

With the new Army, these will be Fabulously Matching Green Berets

faraway on June 19, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Official White House transcript from today’s prepared remarks:

I’m sure you’ll aware of the situation in Iraq, and while we’ve been working very hard with our allies and the Iraqi government to come to an agreement on the use of military advisors, unmanned aerial reconnaissance, and training of Iraqi military assets, I assure you we have not yet come to a decision on our involvement on Iraq.

However, we have actionable intelligence that required I come and speak to the American People about this intelligence. Three days ago, I was informed of a serious threat to something dear to me, and to something dear to you as well. And time has come for me to take action on this threat.

Three days ago, I received intelligence that I was bending my elbow too much during the forward motion of my golf swing. The results of this were a severe rightward deviation to my drives from the tee, and a round that was significantly over par. In addition, I was not hitting down on the ball in my short game, resulting in balls that significantly overshot their intended targets. Five American golf balls were lost in three water hazards, and I have instructed my staff to tirelessly work to find our lost assets.

Upon review of the reason for this deviation, and comparison to previous tapes, I have now connected the deviation in my swing to stress over the situation in Iraq. Had the work of previous administrations been done properly in Iraq, five American golf balls would not have been lost. Had the previous administration not gotten us involved in Iraq, I’m sure I would have shot a sub-100 round.

I have met with several advisers on correcting this problem, and we all agree that the best way to tackle this is head on. We will have a laser-like focus on solving the rightward deviation of my golf assets, and it will be my #1 priority until such time as the situation is resolved to the satisfaction of me, my closest advisors and Congress.

Thank you for your time. Now if you will excuse me, I have an important meeting with my golf pro to work on this pressing issue of National urgency. No questions from the press. God Bless Me. And America, too. Thank you.

Nethicus on June 19, 2014 at 12:30 PM

I have no freaking clue what just happened. Lol

coolrepublica on June 19, 2014 at 12:31 PM

He’ll announce the remaining Gitmo detainees will be sent to Iraq to help thwart the Tea Party created right wing conspiracy uprising and will assure us the detainees won’t be allowed to leave the middle east for a year.

tej on June 19, 2014 at 12:31 PM

I have no freaking clue. Lol

coolrepublica on June 19, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Somebody needs to archive this!

VegasRick on June 19, 2014 at 12:33 PM

I got dibbs on 12:53 in the pool for the Dog Eater to show up…

bimmcorp on June 19, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Did Obysmal just roll out of bed and watch the news? Or did Valerie Jarrett tell him what the game plan is? Whatever. He just needs to pre-empt Limbaugh because O’s poll numbers are sinking more so than his putts.

onlineanalyst on June 19, 2014 at 12:33 PM

I have no freaking clue what just happened. Lol

coolrepublica on June 19, 2014 at 12:31 PM

You should just copy and paste this every time the urge to post strikes you.

bimmcorp on June 19, 2014 at 12:34 PM

I got dibbs on 12:53 in the pool for the Dog Eater to show up…

bimmcorp on June 19, 2014 at 12:33 PM

This loser is a classical passive/aggressive douchebag.

VegasRick on June 19, 2014 at 12:35 PM

blah blah…Bush…blah blah Cheney…blah blah Congress blah blah the Constitution blah blah but I have a pen and a phone blah blah blah…..phoney hypocrite and liar…

crosshugger on June 19, 2014 at 12:36 PM

par for the course, no?

I see what you did there…..lol.

d1carter on June 19, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Nethicus on June 19, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Hahahaha!!

Jack_Burton on June 19, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Late as usual!

tomshup on June 19, 2014 at 12:37 PM

dispatch Kerry to the region

There ya go. AQ doesn’t have a chaunce.

dogsoldier on June 19, 2014 at 12:37 PM

If he doesn’t come prepared with a plan, it will be … par for the course, no?

Ixnay on the olfgay eferencesray, kayoay?

Bishop on June 19, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Remember the good old days when administration people besides the President spoke on national TV?

faraway on June 19, 2014 at 12:38 PM

God Bless Our Troops

Fighting soldiers from the sky
Fearless men who jump and die
Men who mean just what they say
The brave men of the Green Beret

Silver wings upon their chest
These are men, America’s best
One hundred men we’ll test today
But only three win the Green Beret

Trained to live, off nature’s land
Trained in combat, hand to hand
Men who fight by night and day
Courage deep, from the Green Beret

Silver wings upon their chest
These are men, America’s best
One hundred men we’ll test today
But only three win the Green Beret

Back at home a young wife waits
Her Green Beret has met his fate
He has died for those oppressed
Leaving her this last request

Put silver wings on my son’s chest
Make him one of America’s best
He’ll be a man they’ll test one day
Have him win the Green Beret

Dino V on June 19, 2014 at 12:39 PM

At this point…does anyone pay attention to this jackass?

oceansidecon on June 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Again, not sure why this couldn’t have gone out in a Defense or State briefing.

Bad poll numbers, to the delight against HA’s Ned and lester.

Schadenfreude on June 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Somebody needs to archive this!

VegasRick on June 19, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Please do archive. My ego needs the boost. Haha

coolrepublica on June 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM

“I just wanted to let you all know that I am standing with the Muslims now that the Political Winds are blowing in an ugly direction” – Barack Hussein Obama

What am a getting a felling of Vietnam/Carter’s Fiasco in the Desert Deja Vu?

kingsjester on June 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM

“I’ve told those ISIS guys not to do stupid shit, that should about take care of things. Thank you and adios.”

Bishop on June 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Still waiting until Valerie Jarrett gets back from shipping the UAC’s up from central America so he can really say something.

jake49 on June 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Obama: “We are going to send 500 more hashtags over to fight his AlQaeda scourge”

faraway on June 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM

so after a ton of years getting advised by our military our fix is to….send military to advise them?

dmacleo on June 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM

My ego IQ needs the boost. Haha

coolrepublica on June 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM

FIFY

VegasRick on June 19, 2014 at 12:42 PM

“Why am I”

kingsjester on June 19, 2014 at 12:42 PM

I got dibbs on 12:53 in the pool for the Dog Eater to show up…

bimmcorp on June 19, 2014 at 12:33 PM

This loser is a classical passive/aggressive douchebag.

VegasRick on June 19, 2014 at 12:35 PM

I’ve been called worse…lol

bimmcorp on June 19, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Cult members are orgasmic thinking of seeing their leader in just a few short minutes. !!11!!!11!111

faraway on June 19, 2014 at 12:45 PM

The President’s statement on Iraq, originally scheduled for 12:30P ET, now will be at 1:15P ET, says the White House.

From cbsnews.com site. Heh. As if something groundbreaking happened between 12:30 and 1:15. Barky got held up on the 17th so is running a little late…

bofh on June 19, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Will Obama have Bob Bergdahl come out and give the morning blessing, first?

kingsjester on June 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM

dispatch Kerry to the region

Is Johnny going to go in a swift boat?

GarandFan on June 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM

I have directed My SOS Kerry to find a fence near the fighting and start huckin’ medals at a high rate of speed.

dmacleo on June 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Damn it, I had 1247. Should have said 1307.

D-fusit on June 19, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Maybe obama can send a battalion of the straw men he employs and a couple cases of hashtags.

HumpBot Salvation on June 19, 2014 at 12:49 PM

I’ve been called worse…lol

bimmcorp on June 19, 2014 at 12:44 PM

I was referring to presnit snooty always being late.

VegasRick on June 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM

bofh on June 19, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Truth!

D-fusit on June 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Only a raving lunatic announces a speech, then meets with their National Security Team.

faraway on June 19, 2014 at 12:51 PM

:

President will NOT ask Maliki to step down, will deploy advisors, increase counterterror $ & intell sharing, dispatch Kerry to the region

— Justin Fishel (@JustinFishelFNC) June 19, 2014

Does Intel sharing he sent Maliki a subscription for the Washington Post.

RickB on June 19, 2014 at 12:52 PM

faraway on June 19, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Or, clueless, petulant, President Pantywaist.

kingsjester on June 19, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Maybe obama can send a battalion of the straw men he employs and a couple cases of hashtags.

HumpBot Salvation on June 19, 2014 at 12:49 PM

#BringBackOurHumvee

Roy Rogers on June 19, 2014 at 12:53 PM

I love the idea of asking a Democratically elected President to step down. I have some ideas.

faraway on June 19, 2014 at 12:55 PM

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