NPR’s new poll of battleground states brutal for Democrats

posted at 4:01 pm on June 19, 2014 by Guy Benson

You already know how the national polling looks, but those numbers include the opinions of many Americans whose votes will have zero impact on the much-watched battle for control of the Senate. NPR clears out New Yorkers, Californians and Texans (among others) from its sample, focusing instead on the following 12 states: Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina and West Virginia. A look at the results, bearing in mind that presidential approval rating has historically been the single most significant variable in midterm election cycles:

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That would be (38/58) overall, including an abysmal (33/63) among independents. On the generic ballot — a measure on which Republicans traditionally struggle — the GOP holds a three-point lead (46/43), buoyed by an eight-point advantage with indies.  But it’s the ‘issue trust‘ questions, that must really worry Barack Obama’s party:

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A four point Republican lead on healthcare (an issue Democrats have historically dominated — gee, what changed?), a tie on protecting the middle class (that’s a catastrophe for Democrats), and a double-digit GOP edge on America’s dominant number one issue.  Americans remain “highly anxious” about the US economy, political handicapper Charlie Cook writes today, and voters in battleground states appear poised to place the blame on the president’s party.  Conventional wisdom holds that bread-and-butter issues will carry the day in the fall, but I’d wager that voters are currently more attuned to foreign affairs than they’ve been in years, due in large part to the Bergdahl/Taliban swap and Iraq’s head-spinning descent into jihadi hell.  Which party do battleground state voters trust more on foreign policy?  Blowout:

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Democrats seized an advantage on this question late in the Bush years, when the electorate abandoned Republican foreign policy in droves.  After six years of Barack Obama, the tables have turned again.

Exit question (Allahpundit ™): Despite the remarkably favorable electoral environment in which the GOP finds itself, polling averages in key Senate races still suggest that netting the requisite six seats to regain control is no gimme.  If Republicans end up failing to win the Senate in this year, then what?  As our esteemed colleague might say, dude, I’m nervous.


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Hence tuning on the illegal alien flood.

Oil Can on June 19, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Our GOP will find a way to screw it up.

Deano1952 on June 19, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Hence tuning on the illegal alien flood.

Oil Can on June 19, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Dems going for the TB vote??

Deano1952 on June 19, 2014 at 4:06 PM

In terms of the issue agenda, attitudes toward the Affordable Care Act have not significantly changed and are unlikely to between now and November. Obamacare overshadows any other specific issue; no improvement on the public’s attitudes toward it is another tough blow to the party.

Still another problem that seems to be growing for Democrats is the general perception—whether someone agrees or disagrees with this administration on policy—that Obama officials lack competence. That on simple matters of execution—be it handling the economy, the launch of HealthCare.gov, the general administration of the ACA, or problems with the Veterans Administration—they seem like the gang that can’t shoot straight. The steady erosion of confidence in the Obama administration further limits Democrats’ ability to bounce back from negative events.

There was a point when voters hit the mute button and stopped listening to George H.W. Bush and then to his son George W. Bush. We now seem to have reached that point with Obama. Voters have thrown up their hands and lost hope that things will get any better.

Schadenfreude on June 19, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Doesn’t matter.

Even if the GOP gains control of the Senate in November, NOTHING WILL CHANGE. Except McConnell will change the Senate rules back to give the new minority DimocRats their power back.

Get ready for it, because these people are nothing but business as usual, status quo, (D)-Lite Republicans.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 4:09 PM

I really do hate these stupid Dems. It only took ruining the country to make them START to see their jug eared emperor had no clothes…..and 40% of them still approve of him. When the barbarians are at the gate I wonder if they will care that his epidermis matched their own. Effing morons!

neyney on June 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Still do not raise your hopes high that we are going to win back the Senate… However it is not a must for us to win back the Senate… The only important thing in the 2014 elections is to keep the House and we have over 95% chance of keeping it… Remember that since Obama was re-elected his and his party main mission has been to win back the House, there is over 95% chance that they are going to fail in doing so…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Dems going for the TB vote??

Deano1952 on June 19, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Very good.

crankyoldlady on June 19, 2014 at 4:11 PM

We now seem to have reached that point with Obama. Voters have thrown up their hands and lost hope that things will get any better.
Schadenfreude on June 19, 2014 at 4:09 PM

This should have happened over 2 years ago!

Deano1952 on June 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM

“If Republicans end up failing to win the Senate in this year, then what?”

Then things continue as they are…

… The economy will collapse, gas and food prices will sky rocket, the Country will be invaded, our Military will be dissolved, Obama will Rule by Executive Order until all of our Freedoms are taken away, the EPA and other bureaucracies will regulate us back to the stone age, we will go Trillions more into debt, the dollar will become worthless, and all further elections may be canceled.

Basically the competed ‘Fundamental Transformation’ of the United States of America…

It will be Paradise, No?

Seven Percent Solution on June 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM

NPR’s new poll of battleground states brutal for Democrats communists….

Opps NPR will probably get cutoff from the communist tit now….
You do not upstage your overlords…..

redguy on June 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM

The Republicans are no different than the Chinese – Communist lite

redguy on June 19, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Exit question (Allahpundit ™): Despite the remarkably favorable electoral environment in which the GOP finds itself, polling averages in key Senate races still suggest that netting the requisite six seats to regain control is no gimme. If Republicans end up failing to win the Senate in this year, then what? As our esteemed colleague might say, dude, I’m nervous.

Then it’s 3rd party time. Either that, or 2nd country time.

Doughboy on June 19, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Deano1952: Without even working up a sweat . . .

RedPepper on June 19, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Seven Percent Solution on June 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM

And yet you will be going to the mall on Christmas to buy you children or grand children the latest gadgets…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Despite the remarkably favorable electoral environment in which the GOP finds itself, polling averages in key Senate races still suggest that netting the requisite six seats to regain control is no gimme

If I might be so bold, should the Republicans take up Amnesty… er, I mean Immigration Reform this year then it is going to look much worse than that.

Ukiah on June 19, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Any wagers yet on the GOPe screwing the whole gimme up?

Bmore on June 19, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Obama is actually hoping for Republican control, that way he can blame everything on them.

Decoski on June 19, 2014 at 4:15 PM

We now seem to have reached that point with Obama. Voters have thrown up their hands and lost hope that things will get any better.
Schadenfreude on June 19, 2014 at 4:09 PM

This should have happened over 2 years ago!

Deano1952 on June 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM

heh, even Rush let’s on Obama supporters to claim that the light bringer has not and can do no wrong…..this is exactly what Jim Jones supporters were saying as Jones urged them to drink the Kool-Aid.

redguy on June 19, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Then it’s 3rd party time. Either that, or 2nd country time.

Doughboy on June 19, 2014 at 4:14 PM

I did not know that Republicans winning the Senate was so critical to the survival of the nation or the Republican party…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Hence tuning on the illegal alien flood.

Oil Can on June 19, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Which isn’t going to help.

I think that was the nail in Cantor’s coffin…

The problem here is not that Republicans aren’t going to win this fall (assuming the elections are honest and that may be a ridiculous assumption post-Lois Lerner) but that most of them are going to be RINOS.

ConstantineXI on June 19, 2014 at 4:16 PM

The waxing and waning of the malleable electorate runs apace. The Parties fall all over themselves trying to capture this cohort or that. Even the MSM has been thrown into a hissy fit by the unprecedented lies, incompetence and hypocrisy of O and his minions. The ‘pubs need to go after the 13 million Iraqi’s who will be streaming across the borders in 3..2..1..

vnvet on June 19, 2014 at 4:17 PM

But it’s the ‘issue trust‘ questions, that must really worry Barack Obama’s party

Please. Enough dead people and illegal immigrants vote that they probably wouldn’t be worried by a poll showing twice as much (R) support.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Obama is actually hoping for Republican control, that way he can blame everything on them.

Decoski on June 19, 2014 at 4:15 PM

He does anyway, and has been since day one.

Like I said, Republican control of the Senate = no change whatsoever.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 4:19 PM

The Democrats seem to be much happier with their representatives than either R’s or Indies. Dislodging an incumbent isn’t easy.
There were a couple of competitive states in there, but some didn’t look even remotely like the toss-up kind of “battleground” state it’s being characterized as.

Recon5 on June 19, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Still do not raise your hopes high that we are going to win back the Senate… However it is not a must for us to win back the Senate… The only important thing in the 2014 elections is to keep the House and we have over 95% chance of keeping it… Remember that since Obama was re-elected his and his party main mission has been to win back the House, there is over 95% chance that they are going to fail in doing so…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:11 PM
It is an absolute must for us to win back the Senate-one word- Judges.

Ta111 on June 19, 2014 at 4:22 PM

What then?

A few things,I’d guess: the progressive effort to “modify” the First Amendment will gain some steam; the IRS will be emboldened, and go hard after political opponents of the President; the EPA will start enforcing its edicts with a “shoot first, talk later” policy; the NLRB will declare elections “unnecessary” and require every worker in America to start paying union dues as a condition of holding a job.

MTF on June 19, 2014 at 4:22 PM

54% of Democrats in these states STRONGLY approve of the job the current resident of the White House is doing. Even if you agree with him and think the EVIL Republicans are the reason he hasn’t gotten everything he (claims) he wants, how can THAT MANY people of any political persuasion think he’s doing a good job?!?!?!?!

The dumbing down of America continues apace.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 4:23 PM

It is an absolute must for us to win back the Senate-one word- Judges.

Ta111 on June 19, 2014 at 4:22 PM

No it is not… Very few judges get blocked by either party and regardless of who is in control…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:24 PM

This should have happened over 2 years ago 6 years ago!

Deano1952 on June 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM

..fixed.

The War Planner on June 19, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Dems going for the TB vote??

Deano1952 on June 19, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Just wait til those sick border jumpers start showing up in the neighborhood clinics and emergency rooms.

Pandemic in the immigrant communities.

Way to go Obama, way to go.

MichaelGabriel on June 19, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Like I said, Republican control of the Senate = no change whatsoever.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 4:19 PM

I agree. Getting the Senate basically changes nothing because morons like Graham and McCain are STILL going to approve Obama’s judges. It might make the investigations a little harder to avoid but what difference does THAT make when they can get away with destroying evidence with impunity?

Remember how it was the last time the GOP had the Senate: they mostly thwarted or watered down conservative bills that passed the House, and sabotaged CONSERVATIVES nominated by Bush (IE: John Bolton, Janice Rodgers Brown, etc).

The Senate will still suck just as bad as it does now.

ConstantineXI on June 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM

54% of Democrats in these states STRONGLY approve of the job the current resident of the White House is doing. Even if you agree with him and think the EVIL Republicans are the reason he hasn’t gotten everything he (claims) he wants, how can THAT MANY people of any political persuasion think he’s doing a good job?!?!?!?!

The dumbing down of America continues apace.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Did you expect otherwise? Nothing new under the sun… Do you think that the vast majority of Presidents, being Republicans or Democrats, were not always strongly supported by their base?… But I agree the democrat party base is made mostly of dumb people and parasites but also nothing new in this as well, it has been the case for generations…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM

I did not know that Republicans winning the Senate was so critical to the survival of the nation or the Republican party…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:16 PM

To paraphrase the Hildebeast, at this point, it may not make any difference. The nation could be FUBAR regardless. But if the GOP can’t win a measly 6 Senate seats with all the favorable races they’re looking at in a political environment like this, then there’s no hope for them.

Doughboy on June 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM

The Democrats seem to be much happier with their representatives than either R’s or Indies. Dislodging an incumbent isn’t easy.
There were a couple of competitive states in there, but some didn’t look even remotely like the toss-up kind of “battleground” state it’s being characterized as.

Recon5 on June 19, 2014 at 4:22 PM

The DimocRat party is comprised of government employees (union goons), enviro-nuts, abortion-zealots, low-info voters and those gaming the system that don’t want their gravy train to end.

If they don’t fall into any of these groups, they wouldn’t be DimocRats to begin with. So, to these folks outlined above, people like Pelosi, Reid and the rest, are doing a great job. According to them.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM

It is an absolute must for us to win back the Senate-one word- Judges.

Ta111 on June 19, 2014 at 4:22 PM

I’m with you. If Obama gets another SCOTUS pick, watch out. He’s going to go full Progressive and won’t even be shy about it. He’ll then urge the Senate to use the nuclear option, opting out of the filibuster, and the Dem’s will comply.

Mark it down.

WisRich on June 19, 2014 at 4:30 PM

I agree. Getting the Senate basically changes nothing because morons like Graham and McCain are STILL going to approve Obama’s judges. It might make the investigations a little harder to avoid but what difference does THAT make when they can get away with destroying evidence with impunity?

Remember how it was the last time the GOP had the Senate: they mostly thwarted or watered down conservative bills that passed the House, and sabotaged CONSERVATIVES nominated by Bush (IE: John Bolton, Janice Rodgers Brown, etc).

The Senate will still suck just as bad as it does now.

ConstantineXI on June 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Yep, exactly. Status quo, the only change will be the names on the doors. After all, remember this one…

“This isn’t that fight either.” – Mitch McConnell

This will be the new Senate’s motto.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 4:30 PM

If Republicans end up failing to win the Senate in this year, then what?

Say assalamalekum to sharia , bicheeezz
:(

burrata on June 19, 2014 at 4:32 PM

I’m with you. If Obama gets another SCOTUS pick, watch out. He’s going to go full Progressive and won’t even be shy about it. He’ll then urge the Senate to use the nuclear option, opting out of the filibuster, and the Dem’s will comply.

Mark it down.

WisRich on June 19, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Do you actually think an (R) controlled Senate WON’T rubber stamp Obama’s next nominee for the SC?

What miracle is going to happen to all of a sudden give the GOP in the Senate (other than Cruz) a set of B@LLS?

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 4:33 PM

polling averages in key Senate races still suggest that netting the requisite six seats to regain control is no gimme.

That’s not my interpretation of the polls. As long as (R)’s do a half-way decent job of campaigning, they’ve got this in the bag. If they do a good job of campaigning, then they may pick up 10 or more seats.

The Senate No Tossups map on Real Clear Politics is a bit misleading. There is no way that Arkansas is sending Pryor back to the Senate, for instance. Also, any poll taken before a recent primary is pretty much useless, too. Almost across the board, more recent polls lean (R) more so than polls that are a month old. That’s good momentum and shows that (R) voters are settling down after their primaries end. Enough with the pearl clutching.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Sadly if the Stupid Party will hold the House and gain a slim majority in the Senate, there is slim chance they will gain control of the decline we are witnessing in Washington.
King Taliobowmao Putt could cap a Girl Scout ‘Chicago Style’ on the White House lawn on LIVE TV and the Republicans would wring their hands and be indeterminate about impeaching the Complete and Utter Fraud.
They would hate to be called RACISTS!
And the backup guarantee (Catch 22 clause) is the presence of Joke Biden.
Best insurance policy against assassination every devised.

Missilengr on June 19, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Well, all it takes is one candidate to say, “Well, women belong at home, barefoot, with the kids!” and then Outrage Machine will then be switched on to destroy any GOP hope for a Senate seat in those states.

Because, as we all know, the Low Information Voter doesn’t care about anything other than mary jane, minimum wage and if someone is “in touch with my feelings”.

Even if every. single. category. of. issues. is leaning the Republican way, the Democrats will make the race personal and about emotion.

Nethicus on June 19, 2014 at 4:37 PM

The GOP is going kill in Nov.

rik on June 19, 2014 at 4:38 PM

New poll out of NH…Obama’s approval is in low 30′s

However, in the US Senate race, the liberal loon is 10 points ahead of Scott, same thing in governor’s race

Don’t count on winning the senate. Democrats will vote Dem regardless of their opinion of Obama and they HAVE a lot of Dem voters

Redford on June 19, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Learned today McCornyn donated $5k to Cochran. I’m already an undercount for this turd. He’s about to make me vote for dem opponent. It is amazing what happens to people when the drink that water up there.

DanMan on June 19, 2014 at 4:39 PM

“Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job” — GWB, the prescient

The GOP is going kill in Nov.

rik on June 19, 2014 at 4:38 PM

They can still muck it up, as Bmore cautioned, and, they don’t deserve to win.

Schadenfreude on June 19, 2014 at 4:40 PM

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Any gains in the Senate will be in spite of the GOPe “leadership”. Gains in the Senate will be the result of low turnout of Dim voters, anti-ObamaGlitch, anti-DimocRat votes.

And a large portion of that momentum would be negated by a idiotic push to do amnesty (in any form) before November.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Even if every. single. category. of. issues. is leaning the Republican way, the Democrats will make the race personal and about emotion.

Nethicus on June 19, 2014 at 4:37 PM

You mean as they have done since the beginning of the 20th century till now…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Dems going for the TB vote?? Deano1952 on June 19, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Dangerous diseases are carrying Mexicans over the border.

Akzed on June 19, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Seven Percent Solution on June 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM

And yet you will be going to the mall on Christmas to buy you children or grand children the latest gadgets…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:14 PM

We gave up the giving of gifts on Christmas and celebrate it as the Birth of Jesus.
My kids are older now and give of themselves on mission trips.
I am afraid that our current communists in power are trying to destroy our Christian way of life.
This is why Obama supports the Caliphate.

redguy on June 19, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Did you expect otherwise? Nothing new under the sun… Do you think that the vast majority of Presidents, being Republicans or Democrats, were not always strongly supported by their base?… But I agree the democrat party base is made mostly of dumb people and parasites but also nothing new in this as well, it has been the case for generations…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM

I’d be interested to know what Nixon’s base approval numbers were near the end when he was obviously a sneaky, incompetent SOB. I know his overall approval number was down to 29%, which means that even his base was disillusioned. Obama’s had at least two or three scandals worse than Watergate (IRS or Benghazi would have taken down any (R) President, for example), yet his base stands firm. 82% (!!!!!!) approve of his job as President. That’s insane. Yes, I do expect better even from Dems.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Exit question (Allahpundit ™): Despite the remarkably favorable electoral environment in which the GOP finds itself, polling averages in key Senate races still suggest that netting the requisite six seats to regain control is no gimme.

No guarantees, but wave elections typically appear later in the cycle. What we’re seeing right now is a lot of races in states where plainly voters don’t like what the Democrats are doing, but the Republican challengers, typical for challengers at this stage, are largely unknowns. My prediction is that once voters start to pay attention, (September/October), they’ll get to know the Republicans, and for the most part, decide that they’re acceptable alternatives. That’s when we’ll see the movement against the Democrats in specific races, rather than this general “we sure don’t like Obama!”

Looking back at Senate Elections since 2004, we’ve had 12 incumbents run as their party’s nominee and lose. Of those, 6 were statistically tied at this point, 4 were decisively ahead, and just 2 were decisively behind. No reason to fret at this early hour.

LukeinNE on June 19, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Dangerous diseases are carrying Mexicans over the border.

Akzed on June 19, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Perhaps they can visit their illegal relatives and spread the love.

redguy on June 19, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Yep. Open up the borders, empty out the prisons, and get those Democrat voter drives humming. They’re so predictable.

JeremiahJohnson on June 19, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Any gains in the Senate will be in spite of the GOPe “leadership”. Gains in the Senate will be the result of low turnout of Dim voters, anti-ObamaGlitch, anti-DimocRat votes.

And a large portion of that momentum would be negated by a idiotic push to do amnesty (in any form) before November.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 4:40 PM

You are exactly right. If the GOPe had fought with its base instead of against it over the last few years, we might be talking about picking up a super majority in the Senate right now rather than wringing our hands about whether we’ll get a simple majority.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Here’s the problem though. The polling outlook for individual senate races looks pretty good for Democrats. Tillis has just awarded Kay Hagan the seat by claiming African Americans are not “traditional” North Carolina residents. Really dude? At what point in the history of the Carolinas were black people not present? Pryor is clearly going to lose, but Grimes is doing rather well against McConnel, because obvi. Landrieu will not go down without a major fight. Joni Ernst has “tea party gaffe” written all over her, it’s only a matter of time. And we don’t know what the primary will produce in Alaska. The polling for Dems is already tons better than it was this time in 2010.

libfreeordie on June 19, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Spin, little camper.

Bishop on June 19, 2014 at 4:48 PM

No it is not… Very few judges get blocked by either party and regardless of who is in control…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Eh…That’s empirically true, but the calculus on who is nominated changes significantly when the other party is in power. That’s more true for (R) Presidents than (D), but it’s there, nonetheless.

I agree that unless the Senate is taken over by conservatives, then which party is in control is kinda meaningless.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Tillis has just awarded Kay Hagan the seat by claiming African Americans are not “traditional” North Carolina residents.

Racehl Maddow was working this all she could, but it’s not that bad a gaffe, no need to be melodramatic.

BushyGreen on June 19, 2014 at 4:54 PM

We gave up the giving of gifts on Christmas and celebrate it as the Birth of Jesus.
My kids are older now and give of themselves on mission trips.
I am afraid that our current communists in power are trying to destroy our Christian way of life.
This is why Obama supports the Caliphate.

redguy on June 19, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Obama is very bad but our country has been in much worse, War of 1812 (almost got occupied by Britain again), Civil War (the Union may have ceased to exist), the Great Depression (far surpasses any economic troubles we have seen in our life time unless you actually lived during the Great Depression), WW II (fighting very powerful evil forces that the world have not seen before), the 1960′s/Vietnam (social upheaval vastly exceeded anything we see now) etc.. … Even when it comes to President he is not the worst in my opinion. I rank FDR, LBJ, and Buchanan ahead of him… He is certainly by far the most incompetent President ever, also the most immature, the laziest, the most partisan, and the weakest President ever and by far… However in a way his extreme incompetency and laziness (I do not buy the evil genius crap about him) may have helped us indirectly as he failed very badly in implementing a lot of his destructive agenda, imagine if this idiot has the brains of FDR or LBJ then we would have been in much bigger troubles…

mnjg on June 19, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Eh…That’s empirically true, but the calculus on who is nominated changes significantly when the other party is in power. That’s more true for (R) Presidents than (D), but it’s there, nonetheless.

I agree that unless the Senate is taken over by conservatives, then which party is in control is kinda meaningless.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 4:52 PM

If the GOP controlled the senate, Congress could have been presenting Obama with all manner of popular legislation he would have had to veto. He wold have been on the defensive for two years.

BushyGreen on June 19, 2014 at 4:56 PM

I see that 5% of Republicans approve of Obama. Hi there General Powell! “Crease” Brooks! How ya doin’?

NY2SC on June 19, 2014 at 4:57 PM

What’s that? Sounds like someone whistling past the graveyard.

HumpBot Salvation on June 19, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Racehl Maddow was working this all she could, but it’s not that bad a gaffe, no need to be melodramatic.

BushyGreen on June 19, 2014 at 4:54 PM

It’s a nothing burger in every sense of the word. The only people who are outraged are Maddow’s 10 viewers and idiots who think ThinkProgress is a legit news source.

HumpBot Salvation on June 19, 2014 at 5:00 PM

If I might be so bold, should the Republicans take up Amnesty… er, I mean Immigration Reform this year then it is going to look much worse than that.
Ukiah on June 19, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Agree

Right now, the Republicans are making press noise about – the IRS scandals, when they wouldn’t touch the IRS complaints from tea party until after the Obama re election completed.

Because the GOP leadership too wanted the Tea Party to fail

The GOP leadership is acting as if the flood of illegals over the borders is just one more sign of Obama incompetence, but focus their rage on – the IRS or Benghazi

Because the GOP leadership too wants the illegal flood of instant amnesty dreamers

I am not even seeing resolutions passed denouncing Obama granting amnesty or using military bases, or having border patrol work as baby sitters instead of border patrolling

The GOP leadership would rather gain a third world nation with themselves as oligarchs, then save the Republic of the United States

The GOP leadership is playing the public as much as Obama

Cantor’s YG (Young Guns) super pac raised 5.9 million in 2012, of which 5 million came from Sheldon Adelson

A one donor pac. Who co wrote the 2010 ‘Yong Guns’ book with Cantor that started this? None other than new majority leader Kevin McCarthy, and Paul ‘Zuckerberg’ Ryan

Public confidence in Congress has fallen to 7 percent. The only possible vote with those number is anti incumbent vote. And that is no guarantee the party does not control the challengers too

entagor on June 19, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Since it should be obvious to everyone that Obama’s plan is to stuff the ballot boxes with voter registrations for the illegals he is bringing over the border, who are we kidding. There is no way Republicans will take over the Senate or win the White House. The Democrats will run some empty suit, and she/he will win thanks to what will be 10s of thousands of votes added in Texas, Arizona and a couple of other purple states.

Why does no one else seem to make this connection. I promise, the next step in Obama’s plan is to get all the illegals registered to vote.

Democracy is over in the US. The press connived. The courts declined to intervene. And the voters thought they were in a guilder cage.

It is over.

doufree on June 19, 2014 at 5:10 PM

You are exactly right. If the GOPe had fought with its base instead of against it over the last few years, we might be talking about picking up a super majority in the Senate right now rather than wringing our hands about whether we’ll get a simple majority.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Can you imagine the total domination the GOP would be seeing right now if they had actually embraced and worked WITH the Tea Party Conservatives instead of mocking, alienating and declaring war on us?

GOP “Leadership”…what a joke.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Well, there were Conservatives who said to give the Demos the chance to turn the country into the Weimar republic.

Looks like we’ve gone right to its successor, though.

Doesn’t matter.

Even if the GOP gains control of the Senate in November, NOTHING WILL CHANGE. Except McConnell will change the Senate rules back to give the new minority DimocRats their power back.

Get ready for it, because these people are nothing but business as usual, status quo, (D)-Lite Republicans.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Wrong.

Yes, they’re mostly Whigs, but all of the Choom Gang’s judicial choices will be frozen.

That alone is worth it.

formwiz on June 19, 2014 at 5:11 PM

82% of Dems approve or strongly approve of Obama’s performance.

That’s all you need to know.

This country’s f*cked.

nukemhill on June 19, 2014 at 5:14 PM

82% of Dems approve or strongly approve of Obama’s performance.

That’s all you need to know.

This country’s f*cked.

nukemhill on June 19, 2014 at 5:14 PM

BINGO! And they are growing daily in numbers

Redford on June 19, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Wrong.

Yes, they’re mostly Whigs, but all of the Choom Gang’s judicial choices will be frozen.

That alone is worth it.

formwiz on June 19, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Like I said before, so you actually think an (R) controlled Senate WON’T rubber stamp Obama’s nomination for an SC vacancy (if that happens)?

And how exactly do you think the GOP merchants of surrender in the Senate will miraculously grow a set a B@LLS, hmmm?

They will hear ONE, 1, UNO accusation of them being raaaaaacist from Reid on the floor of the Senate and it’ll all be over.

Rubber stamp INCOMING!!

You want to see how a REAL opposition minority party works in the Senate, wait until the Dims are there next year. They will re-write the book on making life a living hell for the majority.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 5:22 PM

As our esteemed colleague might say, dude, I’m nervous.

Your ‘esteemed’ colleague only says that when the thing he wants to have happen, which is something conservatives generally disapprove of, is actually going to happen. That phrase is a dog whistle to the GOPe and RINOs that something progressive is going to happen and we can’t…act…too…happy about it.

So…stop it, please.

xNavigator on June 19, 2014 at 5:24 PM

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Perhaps the best way to demonstrate / answer the question you posed would be to look at what specifically happened that convinced Richard Nixon to resign….

…when the GOP Congressional leadership went to the White House and told Nixon that not only would the articles of impeachment pass in the House, but that with Republican votes, Nixon would be found guilty in the Senate.

It was the GOP base that ultimately convinced him to leave office.

Unfortunately, with today’s Democrat, rank progressive-fascists ideologues, loyalty to the party, to the agenda, and to the first African-American President trumps doing what is right.

Athos on June 19, 2014 at 5:42 PM

You want to see how a REAL opposition minority party works in the Senate, wait until the Dims are there next year. They will re-write the book on making life a living hell for the majority.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Particularly if the fossilized and self-entitled Mitch McConnell becomes the Senate Majority Leader and reverts the Senate rules back to what they were before Dingy Harry changed them to emasculate and marginalize the Minority.

Athos on June 19, 2014 at 5:43 PM

As our esteemed colleague might say, dude, I’m nervous.

With good reason.

The GOP is not called “The Party of Stupid”(TM) for nothing…

Bruno Strozek on June 19, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Particularly if the fossilized and self-entitled Mitch McConnell becomes the Senate Majority Leader and reverts the Senate rules back to what they were before Dingy Harry changed them to emasculate and marginalize the Minority.

Athos on June 19, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Well, he’s already said he would do just that.

He’ll revert them back before Reid nuked the Senate with the Nuclear Option. All so that when the Dims get the Senate back at some point, they can nuke it all over again.

Seriously, no one is THIS dumb. At some point you have to accept the fact that McConnell and the rest of the GOPe aren’t playing for OUR team.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 5:48 PM

I have explicit trust that the Republicans will blow it!

GarandFan on June 19, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Seriously, no one is THIS dumb.
Meople on June 19, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Don’t bet the farm on it…

Bruno Strozek on June 19, 2014 at 6:02 PM

What we can learn from these numbers is that Democrat voters are hopelessly stupid.

cajunpatriot on June 19, 2014 at 6:04 PM

After six years of Barack Obama, the tables have turned again.

“If you think this country’s bad off now, just wait till I get through with it!” — President R.T. Firefly

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 19, 2014 at 6:12 PM

If the GOP controlled the senate, Congress could have been presenting Obama with all manner of popular legislation he would have had to veto. He wold have been on the defensive for two years.

BushyGreen on June 19, 2014 at 4:56 PM

They may have done that. With the current leadership of the Senate GOP, they probably wouldn’t have done much of it, though. Here’s what almost certainly would have happened:

The GOPe leadership of the House and Senate would have colluded to pass some form of amnesty that would only have passed the House with the significant help of Democrats. The current resident of the White House would have regretfully signed the bill into law while lamenting the “fact” that the evil Republicans didn’t do more to help the poor adolescents (illegally) traipsing across our southern border for the chance at a better life. The courts would soon be used to grant not only legal status, but citizenship to tens of millions of otherwise illegal immigrants while tens of millions of more poured across the Rio Grande to take advantage of the unique opportunity our illustrious GOPe had afforded them (just like the last time the GOP did amnesty). Afterward, the GOP would never again win a nationwide election because the oh-so-grateful new citizens would prove to be not-so-grateful to the GOP, and unemployment would skyrocket due to so many new citizens who can’t find work but still insist on voting for Democrats despite their horrid economic record.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 6:33 PM

The polling for Dems is already tons better than it was this time in 2010.

libfreeordie on June 19, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Dude. Put. Down. The pipe.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 6:37 PM

You want to see how a REAL opposition minority party works in the Senate, wait until the Dims are there next year. They will re-write the book on making life a living hell for the majority.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Nailed it.

With the addendum that the complicit national press will cheer them on without ever breathing a word of them being obstructionists.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 6:43 PM

The polling for Dems is already tons better than it was this time in 2010.

libfreeordie on June 19, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Another claim with no meat.

BTW I enjoyed Ed’s major beat down on your tiresome bullshite arse yesterday. It was sweet.

CW on June 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM

What is the poll sample?

This is an NPR poll. I will wager they oversampled dems by at least 10 points.

dogsoldier on June 19, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Athos on June 19, 2014 at 5:42 PM

That’s kinda what I figured. I have no problem with the base for either party being the last holdouts in support of their leader. That’s pretty much their job, right? But when the person in power becomes so obviously corrupt as Nixon was then and Obama is now, it is the duty of the base to lead the charge against that leader.

THAT is putting country above party. THAT is what Republicans did with Nixon. THAT is what Democrats refuse to do with Obama.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 6:48 PM

I tried to get the sample from North star but they are not making the sample information of their polling methodology available.

That translates to: “The poll is fake.”

dogsoldier on June 19, 2014 at 6:52 PM

There’s no such thing a too much brutality against progressive democrats.

lel2007 on June 19, 2014 at 6:53 PM

I think it’s imperative that the GOP come to the voting booth in November and vote for ANYONE with an R by their name. Staying home like we did in 2012 does no one any good.

I think we can win back the Senate but we have to vote.

COgirl on June 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM

I think it’s imperative that the GOP conservatives come to the voting booth in November and vote for ANYONE with an R by their name who is actually conservative. Staying home like we did in 2012 does no one any good.

I think we can win back the Senate but we have to vote.

COgirl on June 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM

FIFY. I’m done voting for anyone with an (R) by his/her name. However, I refuse to stay home and never have. Write in a conservative candidate if you have to. Voting (D) or staying home sends the wrong message to the GOP.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Try the poll again when gas is at $7/gal.

bbhack on June 19, 2014 at 7:13 PM

FIFY. I’m done voting for anyone JUST BECAUSE s/he has an (R) by his/her name. However, I refuse to stay home and never have. Write in a conservative candidate if you have to. Voting (D) or staying home sends the wrong message to the GOP.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Sorry, this is what I meant.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 7:13 PM

With the addendum that the complicit national press will cheer them on without ever breathing a word of them being obstructionists.

yaedon on June 19, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Oh, SO true.

Meople on June 19, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Dems going for the TB vote??

Deano1952 on June 19, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Very good

Is that tolly bahn or tuberculosis vote? Either way Obama has it sewn up.

jukin3 on June 19, 2014 at 7:36 PM


Exit question (Allahpundit ™)

Glad to see AP finally got that trademark. Wish I could say as much for the Redskins.

rogaineguy on June 19, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Despite the remarkably favorable electoral environment in which the GOP finds itself, polling averages in key Senate races still suggest that netting the requisite six seats to regain control is no gimme.

If Republicans end up failing to win the Senate in this year, then what? As our esteemed colleague might say, dude, I’m nervous.

The Republican leadership is at war with their Conservative voters telling them to pound sand on immigration, spending or anything to do with stopping the Democrat agenda.

You are right to be nervous. It’s very likely that a good number of Conservatives will return the favor and tell the GOPe to pound sand on election day.

RJL on June 19, 2014 at 10:36 PM

Over

Schadenfreude on June 19, 2014 at 10:57 PM

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