Video: Dick and Liz Cheney announce they’re forming a nonprofit to counter Obama’s foreign policy

posted at 4:01 pm on June 18, 2014 by Allahpundit

So that’s why that op-ed appeared in the Journal today. Here’s the organization’s new website; if you’re a hawk of the McCain/Graham/Rubio variety, you’ll find plenty to like.

Is there a deeper strategy to this rollout, though? I’ll give you three possibilities. One: It’s exactly what it looks like, a platform from which to attack President Bumblefark as he works another two and a half years of Hopenchange foreign policy magic. Okay, but this is an odd moment for Dick Cheney, of all people, to be picking a fight with The One. He did a solid job of countering Obama when they clashed on enhanced interrogation and Gitmo back in 2009, but opinion on those issues has always been more equivocal than opinion on Iraq is now. Why would a guy whom the public remembers as a prime mover in the Iraq war debacle want to take the lead in arguing that O’s not being aggressive enough overseas, at a moment when Iraq is at the top of the foreign policy agenda? Yesterday Glenn Beck told liberals on his radio show that they were right to oppose invading Iraq; today, conservative journalist Byron York surveys the op-eds lately from Iraq war supporters calling for a new round of intervention and marvels at the lack of humility in most of them. If even commentators who are normally sympathetic to hawks are thinking twice about dropping more bombs in Anbar province, maybe Bush’s VP isn’t the guy to make the case for more muscle to the wider public. E.g.:

Cheney, a savvy pol, obviously understands all that. So perhaps this is about more than trying to drum up popular opinion against O.

Two: Maybe it’s a vehicle for getting Liz back in the political game after her primary bid against Mike Enzi fizzled. Clearly she’s going to run for office again someday, whether in Wyoming or Virginia. Running a nonprofit designed to attack Obama will put her name in front of grassroots conservatives. It’s a smart way to keep positive buzz flowing on the right, except among libertarians of course.

Three, my pet theory: This isn’t about Obama at all, it’s about building a hawkish platform from which to attack Rand Paul as he runs for the GOP nomination in 2016. Really, why would you even need to attack O on foreign policy at this point? His numbers are already in the toilet; Chuck Todd read his political obituary on the air just this morning. He’s the lamest of lame ducks. The guy whom hawks are worried about is Paul, who could do a lot of damage to the interventionist cause by succeeding with a more dovish foreign policy agenda in the GOP primary. Remember, too, that the Cheneys have a history with Paul: He eagerly endorsed Enzi after Liz announced her primary challenge and offered to campaign personally for him in Wyoming in the name of squashing a famous hawk with the Cheney name. The Cheneys are going to repay the kindness next year by attacking him as a dangerously irresponsible appeaser who’ll build on Obama’s legacy of failure. That’s where the new group comes in, I think. By rolling it out now against Obama, they’re going to build goodwill among righties. Then they’ll put that goodwill to use next year in hammering Paul.


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Do you think the IRS will grant them non-profit status?????

redguy on June 18, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Wait! Off in the distance … what’s that sound? It’s … it’s … little feet, millions of ‘em! In silly shoes …

Trolls! Here come the trolls!

M240H on June 18, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Since his heart transplant he’s feeling good for the first time in decades and he wants to make a difference. I wish he would use his energies to stop the invasion at the border.

crankyoldlady on June 18, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Maybe it’s the beginning of the Conservative Party…?

d1carter on June 18, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Okay, but this is an odd moment for Dick Cheney, of all people, to be picking a fight with The One. He did a solid job of countering Obama when they clashed on enhanced interrogation and Gitmo back in 2009, but opinion on those issues has always been more equivocal than opinion on Iraq is now.

You “Allahpundit” is like the left… You think everything should be done based on popularity and impact on elections… National security should not be left for polls and public opinion because a majority of the people are f***ing morons who do not give a damn if the entire world is burning as long as they are able to get to the f***ing mall and buy the latest gadget…

mnjg on June 18, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Maybe it’s the beginning of the Conservative Party…?

d1carter on June 18, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Surely, you jest.

M240H on June 18, 2014 at 4:07 PM

With respect to Beck, I think it’s perfectly possible to have opposed the Iraq War, or with the benefit of hindsight, see the invasion as a mistake, while not supporting the abandonment of the country to jihadist scum and/or Shia autocrats.

But yeah, Cheney’s sort of an odd guy to be heading up the neocon wing of the GOP going into 2016.

LukeinNE on June 18, 2014 at 4:10 PM

All the respect in the world for Cheney, but enough of this “Team America World Police” foreign policy.

The only way I would agree to go into Iraq is to boost whoever the losing side at the time is, so that they can maximize killing each other.

Less Radical Islamists of all stripes= Good thing

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:10 PM

This is a legacy for Liz; the foundation of her own PAC and PR organization in her future quests for office.

M240H on June 18, 2014 at 4:10 PM

You “Allahpundit” is like the left… You think everything should be done based on popularity and impact on elections… National security should not be left for polls and public opinion because a majority of the people are f***ing morons who do not give a damn if the entire world is burning as long as they are able to get to the f***ing mall and buy the latest gadget…

mnjg on June 18, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Who cares about the rest of the world? We have our own f***ing problems at home.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Maybe it’s the beginning of the Conservative Party…?

d1carter on June 18, 2014 at 4:06 PM

I’m in. I’ll take conservative social values at home and a strong America abroad any day over the passive paralysis that permeates the libertarian wing of the current party.

BKeyser on June 18, 2014 at 4:11 PM

This is a legacy for Liz; the foundation of her own PAC and PR organization in her future quests for office.

M240H on June 18, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Probably.

crankyoldlady on June 18, 2014 at 4:12 PM

With respect to Beck, I think it’s perfectly possible to have opposed the Iraq War, or with the benefit of hindsight, see the invasion as a mistake, while not supporting the abandonment of the country to jihadist scum and/or Shia autocrats.

But yeah, Cheney’s sort of an odd guy to be heading up the neocon wing of the GOP going into 2016.

LukeinNE on June 18, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Pretty sure most of Iraq and most of the middle east is full of jihadist scum/sharia autocrats.

Let them kill each other.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Wyoming landscape in background is Liz Cheney’s way of screaming “I’m not a carpetbagger!”

Mark1971 on June 18, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Do you think the IRS will grant them non-profit status?????

redguy on June 18, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Odds are somewhere in the middle of the scale of “hell” and “no”,

ConstantineXI on June 18, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Who cares about the rest of the world? We have our own f***ing problems at home.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:11 PM

You may not be interested in our enemies but our enemies are interested in us… We have to solve both domestic and foreign problems…

mnjg on June 18, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Like Romney still being on the stage, like the young Trudeau in Canada…

Ruling Class teaters sucking off the Sow of influence and power.

Go away Dynastic families.

Ugh

PappyD61 on June 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM

You may not be interested in our enemies but our enemies are interested in us… We have to solve both domestic and foreign problems…

mnjg on June 18, 2014 at 4:16 PM

This. islam isn’t going to stop until every Church has been demolished, every woman is wearing a sheet over her head, and men are reduced to having only 6-7 surnames.

ConstantineXI on June 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Let them kill each other.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:12 PM

I think that’s the best policy. If they are conducting terrorist attacks then bomb the tar out of them. But we need a divide and distract policy with a close monitoring of terrorists.

Oil Can on June 18, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:12 PM

If I thought for a minute that this conflict would stay within the borders of Iraq and Syria, I’d agree with you. In the end though, either ISIS is going to set up shop in western Iraq and start supporting terrorist actions against Israel and the West or, worse, we’ll have a Shiite union in the heart of the Middle East willing and able to redraw borders and disrupt the world’s energy supply.

LukeinNE on June 18, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Let them kill each other.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:12 PM

I think that’s the best policy. If they are conducting terrorist attacks then bomb the tar out of them. But we need a divide and distract policy with a close monitoring of terrorists.

Oil Can on June 18, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Stop the idiotic strategy of let them kill each others… The concept of victory and defeat for our islamic terrorist enemies whether they are Al Qaeda/ISIS or Iran/her groups is totally different from us… They can kill each others and at the same time kill us as well… Even if they almost annihilate each others those who remain alive will claim victory and then they will come after us…
Bombing terrorists from the sky does not work, it never worked, and will never work…

mnjg on June 18, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Troll bait :O

burrata on June 18, 2014 at 4:24 PM

How about a non profit to push back on the demokkkrat/republican anti-American citizen amnesty lobby?

that’s the biggest threat facing our country

Garyinaz66 on June 18, 2014 at 4:26 PM

I’m in. I’ll take conservative social values at home and a strong America abroad any day over the passive paralysis that permeates the libertarian wing of the current party.

BKeyser on June 18, 2014 at 4:11 PM

We can’t afford “a strong America abroad”…we’re broke.

For all I know, some of the tax money they strong arm from us is going to pay off debt from World War I…Vietnam at the latest.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 18, 2014 at 4:28 PM

How many Americans even know what’s going on in Iraq? They hear bits and pieces on the news but don’t pay attention.
The ones that do pay attention are being told that it’s Bush’s fault and we should never have gone into Iraq because they’re all savages.

Vince on June 18, 2014 at 4:30 PM

The re-dubbing of this is gonna be great.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:32 PM

We’re eventually going to get a congressman Liz Cheney if Dick has anything to say about it, and we had better like it.

Akzed on June 18, 2014 at 4:33 PM

These videos is how they talk to Mary Cheney now.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

These videos is are how they talk to Mary Cheney now.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

You “Allahpundit” is like the left… You think everything should be done based on popularity and impact on elections…

You’re right. We should continue to lose elections so that Democrats get to set foreign policy. Good work.

Allahpundit on June 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Stop the idiotic strategy of let them kill each others… The concept of victory and defeat for our islamic terrorist enemies whether they are Al Qaeda/ISIS or Iran/her groups is totally different from us… They can kill each others and at the same time kill us as well… Even if they almost annihilate each others those who remain alive will claim victory and then they will come after us…
Bombing terrorists from the sky does not work, it never worked, and will never work…

mnjg on June 18, 2014 at 4:24 PM

They are too disorganized to ever be able to pull it together for a sustained effort. And shedding more American blood in Iraq is not going to solve anything, for every radical you kill two will take his place.

The only permanent solution is to nuke the Middle East from the sky and turn it into a big parking lot. Rinse and repeat every ten years.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Because you will lose your home some day. Or your kids may. Remember – You are the Great Satan :-)

antisocial on June 18, 2014 at 4:38 PM

These videos is are how they talk to Mary Cheney now.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Dbag staying a dbag. Classy and expected. Let me ask you an honest question… Why didn’t your parents just strangle you in your crib?

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:39 PM

These videos is how they talk to Mary Cheney now.

verbaloon on June 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

These videos is are how they talk to Mary Cheney now.

verbaloon on June 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

You got it right the first time. English is hard for you, isn’t it?

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Because you will lose your home some day. Or your kids may. Remember – You are the Great Satan :-)

antisocial on June 18, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Nothing we do will ever stop some radical islamist from some obscure place on earth from putting a nuke in his pants.

Face reality these nuts are not isolated to only Iraq/Iran/Syria.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:41 PM

I like that he used the term “Islamic terrorists.” It would have been better if he just said “Muslims,” but I’ll take what I can get. Comparatively, his wording was pretty forward leaning.

WhatSlushfund on June 18, 2014 at 4:41 PM

You’re right. We should continue to lose elections so that Democrats get to set foreign policy. Good work.

Allahpundit on June 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

No let us trick the public into believing that we are surrender monkeys then they vote for us and then we turn in “hawks” on foreign policy, and then after we turn into “hawks” our polls will drop again then we try to trick the public by turning into surrender monkeys again… Great way to run foreign policy based on polls…

mnjg on June 18, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Classy and expected. Let me ask you an honest question… Why didn’t your parents just strangle you in your crib?

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:39 PM

You don’t know what irony is, do you?
Let me help you:
it’s when one suggests concern over whether something is classy or not – and then follow that by suggesting (‘honest’ly) a baby should have been strangled to death.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume your ‘d’ in ‘dbag’ wasn’t the slightly more classy ‘dirt’?

Best if you just avoid big words like ‘classy’.
Ha.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:46 PM

They are too disorganized to ever be able to pull it together for a sustained effort. And shedding more American blood in Iraq is not going to solve anything, for every radical you kill two will take his place.

The only permanent solution is to nuke the Middle East from the sky and turn it into a big parking lot. Rinse and repeat every ten years.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

So disorganized? And you are based this on f***ing what exactly? Are you aware that Al Qaeda planned 9/11 terrorist attacks from the most disorganized country on the planet Afghanistan and with a budget of less than few millions dollars?

Nuke and parking lot… The rhetoric of morons…

mnjg on June 18, 2014 at 4:46 PM

You got it right the first time. English is hard for you, isn’t it?

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 4:39 PM

I don’t think I did?
Typing ishard forme.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Nothing we do will ever stop some radical islamist from some obscure place on earth from putting a nuke in his pants.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Did you ever think he was just happy to see you?

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Did you ever think he was just happy to see you?

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:51 PM

*Winks* How did you know that’s how I like to party???

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Two: Maybe it’s a vehicle for getting Liz back in the political game after her primary bid against Mike Enzi fizzled.
– Allah

It’s that one.
Failed product re-boot…Liz 2.0.
They just want others to pay for it.
And ‘We Love America And You Don’t’ or whatever they’re calling it sounds better than ‘Liz Desperately Needs Help And We See This As A Good Opportunity’.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Maybe it’s a vehicle for getting Liz back in the political game after her primary bid against Mike Enzi fizzled.

That’s my guess. I have a daughter. I’d sell my organs on the black market for her sake. I imagine Dick Cheney would for his daughter, too.

troyriser_gopftw on June 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Did you ever think he was just happy to see you?

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:51 PM

*Winks* How did you know that’s how I like to party???

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Hmmm…am I being trolled?
This could be unifying for me and Del.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:58 PM

You don’t know what irony is, do you?
Let me help you:
it’s when one suggests concern over whether something is classy or not – and then follow that by suggesting (‘honest’ly) a baby should have been strangled to death.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume your ‘d’ in ‘dbag’ wasn’t the slightly more classy ‘dirt’?

Best if you just avoid big words like ‘classy’.
Ha.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:46 PM

I love when an imbecile like you tries to act smart. I was just suggesting that your parents could have avoided the “disappointment” a walking human excrement like you brought them.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Hmmm…am I being trolled?
This could be unifying for me and Del.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Different strokes for different folks I guess..

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet

My apologies to all for watering this plant.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Good luck to the “entire” Cheney family.

SC.Charlie on June 18, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Reminder to everyone, don’t feed the trolls.

SC.Charlie on June 18, 2014 at 5:10 PM

It’s that one.
Failed product re-boot…Liz 2.0.
They just want others to pay for it.
And ‘We Love America And You Don’t’ or whatever they’re calling it sounds better than ‘Liz Desperately Needs Help And We See This As A Good Opportunity’.

verbaldeuce on June 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM

This is different from the Clinton Foundation how?
This is different from everything Al Gore does how?
This different from Obama publishing two autobiographies before 50 how?
This is different from …

M240H on June 18, 2014 at 5:13 PM

I wish he would use his energies to stop the invasion at the border.

crankyoldlady on June 18, 2014 at 4:06 PM

I hear he’s pretty good with a shotgun……

dentarthurdent on June 18, 2014 at 5:14 PM

“if you’re a hawk of the McCain/Graham/Rubio variety, you’ll find plenty to like”

IF? And it’s more like the Rumsfeld/Dubya/Reagan variety.

Go get ‘em, Darth.

God, I love that man.

formwiz on June 18, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Let them kill each other.
Raquel Pinkbullet on June 18, 2014 at 4:12 PM

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

dentarthurdent on June 18, 2014 at 5:18 PM

verbaldeuce on June 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM

This is different from the Clinton Foundation how?
This is different from everything Al Gore does how?
This different from Obama publishing two autobiographies before 50 how?
This is different from …

M240H on June 18, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Don’t confuse the Unit with Facts. It is not programmed to respond in that area!

BTW, O’bama wrote his first autobiography before he was 40. He was only 33 when “Dreams From My Father” came out in 1995.

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 5:18 PM

To the doubters: Has any respected conservative ever called Dick Cheney a Rhino??

PaCadle on June 18, 2014 at 5:28 PM

To the doubters: Has any respected conservative ever called Dick Cheney a Rhino??

PaCadle on June 18, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Maybe that’s what the lawyer he was hunting with did….
I’m guessing Cheney would not like being called a RINO.

dentarthurdent on June 18, 2014 at 5:34 PM

M240H on June 18, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Yes, I see them as different.

Aside from a way to get someone else to pay for your 1st class international travel, fancy meals & hotels, personal assistants and other perks. I’d be for a full re-vamping of tax preferences etc. for these things – you?
(But then how would the Mark Levins of the world get their health insurance paid for by others – while ranting on about the evils of the ACA?)

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Love Cheney. Detest Rand Paul. I’m good with this.

Connie on June 18, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Most Americans are pathetically ignorant about U.S. foreign policy.

If the Cheneys are willing and able to educate the American people about why it is important for America to lead from a position of strength, then I say THANK YOU.

wren on June 18, 2014 at 5:58 PM

All they need is a donation from the Kochs, and Harry’s head will explode.

davidk on June 18, 2014 at 6:08 PM

After Cheney op-ed says Obama “so wrong about so much at the expense of so many” – Jay Carney snarks “Which president was he talking about?”

Um, that would be your boss, d-bag.

changer1701 on June 18, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Maybe Liz is positioning for VP with Cruz.

davidk on June 18, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Looks like Cheney is trying to find another way to part idiots from their money.

antisense on June 18, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Showing leadership on the world stage does not equal invading countries. Look at everything going on in the world right this very moment. This is what happens when there is no American leadership. Im all for this super pac. Well done, Cheneys.

Jack_Burton on June 18, 2014 at 7:21 PM

You “Allahpundit” is like the left… You think everything should be done based on popularity and impact on elections…

You’re right. We should continue to lose elections so that Democrats get to set foreign policy. Good work.

Allahpundit on June 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

The left isn’t polling particularly well at all regarding foreign policy or domestic policy either, last time I checked.
Nobody governs according to polling. They only use it to support their talking points or undermine someone elses. Making decisions – aka “hard choices – independent of popularity contest is the mark of a leader, as is the ability to present a persuasive argument as to why their vision is the right one. Leaders drive the polling, they don’t govern according to it.

Recon5 on June 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Beck is proving sadly erratic and Paul has shown his true colors.

Cheney is a statesman. His boss enforced a cease-fire treaty. A residual force would have made defending against 800 barbarians in these recent attacks easy. Obama (and the Democrats) purposefully lost Iraq by shirking a Status of Forces agreement and the world will suffer because of it.

I fully support Cheney in this endeavor.

Perspicacious on June 18, 2014 at 7:59 PM

wren on June 18, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Yep.

Recon5 on June 18, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Expressing nicely the sentiment I wanted to post. And governing according to foreign policy polling in particular — Even people with some time to pay attention to foreign policy matters can’t fully understand the risks to our security that are involved.
AP thinks conservatives should act according to public disfavor of Iraq intervention, so we can win elections and THEN we can fix this mess? I wonder what Iraq, and the Middle East, will look like then?

girlscout on June 18, 2014 at 8:03 PM

I’ve already received an email for this endeavor.

Cindy Munford on June 18, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I like their genuinely phony wilderness background art.

“Three, my pet theory: This isn’t about Obama at all, it’s about building a hawkish platform from which to attack Rand Paul as he runs for the GOP nomination in 2016.”

Some days, Rand gets to live in your head rent-free. With his string of recent gaffes. Rand hasn’t been flying so high lately. He could end up just running for Senate again, building for 2020 or even 2024. Cruz might do the same.

Toocon on June 18, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Conservatives should be VERY leery from career politician dynasties like Bush, Cheney, Kennedy, etc.

V-rod on June 19, 2014 at 6:31 AM