Say, the Obama White House is looking particularly Nixonian these days, huh?

posted at 2:01 pm on June 18, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

James Poulos isn’t the first to draw notice to the historical resonance of an unexplained gap in records in the middle of a probe about abuse of power in the executive branch. Michael Ramirez also made the same point yesterday in his editorial cartoon for Investors Business Daily:

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Poulos provides a cautionary voice to both Republicans and Democrats in this instance. Just because the e-mails are missing doesn’t mean that malice and corruption have been proven — but it certainly looks that way, and Democrats take a big risk in continuing to call this a “phony scandal” now:

Reminiscent of nothing so much as Nixon secretary Rose Mary Woods’s infamous selective erasures of her boss’s tapes, today’s sought-after communiqués are, we are told, victim of a crashed computer and a failed hard drive, both belonging to Lois Lerner, the chief of the IRS tax-exempt office at the center of the controversy.

And in good Nixonian style, it’s not just Lerner whose emails have gone unaccounted for. Six more IRS employees connected to the original targeting outrage have records the agency cannot submit to Congress—including Nikole Flax, chief of staff to the man eventually fired for his role in targeting conservative groups while serving as acting commissioner.

Best of all, from a salacious standpoint, congressional investigators now know that the IRS kept the missing emails a secret since perhaps February of this year. Lies! Omissions! A cover-up! The possibilities are endless, and weirdly reassuring in these disjointed and murky times. After such a long drumbeat of bad news seemingly “from the future”—from drones and NSA surveillance to fresh chaos in Iraq—the classic, petty terrain of the IRS scandal returns us to comfortably familiar ground. …

Fortunately for the GOP, Americans have an instinctive appreciation for the seriousness of the charges facing the IRS. Putative scandals like the Benghazi incident strike many of us as not just farfetched but almost, as they put it inSpinal Tap, “best left unsolved.” The realm of foreign policy is a realm of mystery for most Americans, a place where government schemes will never be fully revealed and the alternative to trust is a fruitless journey into rabbit-hole speculation.

The possibility of being abused by the IRS, however, requires no such paranoia. Perhaps few of us believe the IRS is really after us in particular; the more general idea that the IRS treats us unequally, in part for political reasons, strikes at the core of reasonable, mainstream distrust of government. After all, the power to tax is the power to destroy. If there’s one place we’d expect to find government harassment carried out under our noses, it’d be the IRS, which harasses us year in and year out anyway.

The foreign-policy crises and failure may not resonate with many Americans who feel distanced from those experiences. That cannot be said for the IRS, the ubiquitous presence that worries all Americans and has a reputation for harsh enforcement along the guilty-until-proven-innocent paradigm. In my column today for The Week, I also argue that the disappearance of records from an agency that would hardly tolerate such excuses from any other American is the kind of smoking hypocrisy that will keep this scandal alive:

This gives the scandal new and legitimate legs, for a couple of reasons. First, despite having demanded these records from the IRS for over a year, the agency waited until now (and in a Friday afternoon document dump, no less) to inform Congress of the supposed loss of emails. That makes it look very suspicious, and put together with Lerner’s refusal to testify, even more so.

The second reason is that the IRS is the one agency that demands everyone else keep spotless records for seven years or more on their returns. Now we find out that they’re only keeping their own documentation for six months? For a nation founded on the rule of law and equality under it, this retention for thee but no for we will likely offend a lot more people than extra scrutiny for conservative tax-exempt applicants did, and the lame dog ate my homework excuse will offend the rest.

Sadly, the rule of law seems to be the biggest fantasy of all in the case of the IRS targeting scandal and the abuse of power it represents.

Don’t expect this to go away soon. The IRS may not be hiding something, but it’s difficult to see how a cover-up would differ in any way from what we’ve been seeing from the IRS..


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Nixon is an amateur compared to these thugs.

Southernblogger on June 18, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Except we still have this Dick to kick around.

Flange on June 18, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Thank goodness there are threads on Dick Cheney, Milbank, and the Redskins for our (D)s to post on.

rogerb on June 18, 2014 at 2:06 PM

That’s an insult to Richard Nixon.

rbj on June 18, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Say, the Obama White House is looking particularly Nixonian these days, huh?

Huh ? How many people did Nixon kill ?

burrata on June 18, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Makes Nixon look like a choir boy.

petefrt on June 18, 2014 at 2:07 PM

. The IRS may not be hiding something,

Hahahaha! I needed that.

Oh- you were serious?

cs89 on June 18, 2014 at 2:09 PM

GOP witch hunt…..racists!
-Cummings

cmsinaz on June 18, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Nixon was caught as part of a cover up of something really stupid.

This is covering up something really terrible for America. If the ends justify the means for the left this time then we truly are very close to the unthinkable. A civil rebellion.

When the government is at war with the people and the ballot box is being corrupted there is only one response for the repressed.

I highly recommend that anyone on the left find a history book and look up any period of repression by any government and see how that turned out.

Capt Blasto on June 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Don’t expect this to go away soon. The IRS may not be hiding something, but it’s difficult to find any action they’ve taken so far that wouldn’t be part of that kind of cover-up attempt.

Barry, Holder, et al just need to keep it at bay for a couple of years. Surely they can accomplish that.

butch on June 18, 2014 at 2:11 PM

So help me out here. Does “smidgen” = “giant crap-load”?

Wyznowski on June 18, 2014 at 2:11 PM

It one thing for one employee’s emails to be lost because of a computer malfunction despite regulations that it all be backed up and despite the fact that all that stuff should remain on servers anyway. But for SIX? 6 employees all had computer malfunctions at the same time? Right. It definitely feels a lot like the “erased tape” Watergate episode.

Maybe some of these IRS employees should be sued in civil court, where the ability to “remain silent” or whatever is less, for the damages (as psychological etc) done to these conservative organizations that were harassed.

anotherJoe on June 18, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Say, the Obama White House is looking particularly Nixonian these days, huh?

These days?

DethMetalCookieMonst on June 18, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Excellent point Ed
7yrs v 6 months and the pettiest are still defending this

cmsinaz on June 18, 2014 at 2:11 PM

“The dog ate my hard drive!” and yet from what I’ve heard the great newsmen Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert have yet nada to say to their low-information audience. I guess it’s just not funny.

Marcus on June 18, 2014 at 2:12 PM

I should have said Nixon was an amateur in comparison. The truth is though that if Barky had an (R) beside his name there would already have been serious discussion in the media about impeachable offenses and how this guy was worse than Nixon.

Southernblogger on June 18, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Again……why do we have a Congress or a Media?

They are worthless.

PappyD61 on June 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM

The IRS sealed it’s fate with this latest lie. Only a GOP controlled house could muck it up … thankfully we don’t have that.

Oh wait …

The IRS just threw their whole IT department under the bus. There are federal laws that regulate the archive and storage of official records. Failing to comply is, of course – against the law.

So the IRS has traded the skins of their IT guys to save the skins of the political hacks who worked the non-profit exemption program.

And – while the political hacks in non-profit exemption had a reason to LIE – the IT guys that are now facing the noose have NO REASON to lie.

Pull this thread HARD.

Those archives are federally mandated by law. They are EXPECTED to be kept. Further … THEY ARE INSPECTED to insure they are kept.

They guys keeping them – the guys inspecting them – all are on the hanging block now.

What’s more – ALL OF THIS STUFF WILL HAVE DOCUMENTATION – what they did, when they did it.

So you better believe these low-level IT guys will start singing like canaries – especially since, now they know – the IRS has thrown them under the bus.

We just need to find the right guys to talk to.

IRS IS DOOMED NOW BUDDY. You can bank that shit.

HondaV65 on June 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM

All the economic and foreign policy acumen of Jimmah Carter and ten times the corruption of Nixon. Obama has knocked two former presidents off their well deserved perches.

DanMan on June 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Lefties ….

cmsinaz on June 18, 2014 at 2:14 PM

I forgot. Did Nixon have the scandal every 6 months?

Oil Can on June 18, 2014 at 2:15 PM

The IRS may not be hiding something, but it’s difficult to see how a cover-up would differ in any way from what we’ve been seeing from the IRS..

Oh BULLS$IT Ed! You’re sounding like O’Reilly and why I can’t stand him. Always trying to force a “I want to be fair and balanced…”when it’s patently not applicable. It’s phony and it’s endemic to what has metastasized into the RINO-Vichy Republican way of LOSING.

IT IS A STATISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY and a TECHNOLOGICAL IMPOSSIBILITY that just these emails, from these folks, at those times, have gone missing.

MistyLane on June 18, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Of course there are some lefty media types that don’t just type out what OFA dictates to them, Right????


@KirstenPowers
My column – Yes, the Iraq crisis is Bush’s fault. Why it matters to place blame where it belongs: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/06/17/kirsten-powers-iraq-crisis-not-obamas-fault/10702321/ … @USATODAY

Southernblogger on June 18, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Obama won’t have a Presidential library when his term is over, he will have a throne room. And another room where you can listen to all his speeches. And a cafeteria with food that one will eat.

Oil Can on June 18, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Paging the media.

Paging the media.

There’s a scandal happening on line one.

Paging the media.

(repeat)

forheremenaremen on June 18, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Yeah, Ed…I hope you’re snarking in that last paragraph…just saying.

22044 on June 18, 2014 at 2:18 PM

I don’t get it. Why does the IRS get the benefit of the doubt where these “failed” hard drives are concerned? Stop pussyfooting around and tell it like it is: THEY. ARE. LYING!

HiJack on June 18, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Again……why do we have a Congress or a Media?

They are worthless.

PappyD61 on June 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Very good point. Obumbles might be persuaded to sign an EO dissolving the nearly useless CONgress and at the same time incorporate media into his new Federal Department of Truth. All we have to do is ask.

hawkeye54 on June 18, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Dear Media:

- Abraham Lincoln created the IRS

- Abraham Lincoln was a Republican

- Thus, this is a Republican scandal

Now do you want to look into this?

forheremenaremen on June 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Paging the media.

Paging the media.

There’s a scandal happening on line one.

Paging the media.

(repeat)

forheremenaremen on June 18, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Oh give it up…..they’ve got to cover the World Cup right now.

hawkeye54 on June 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM

When Rosemary Woods was asked to demonstrate how she ‘accidentally’, erased the infamous tape, the contortions she had to undertake made it obvious that it was no ‘accident’. Forensic studies later determined that the 18 1/2 minutes that were erased were the result of 5 to 9 separate efforts to erase the recording.

The contortions being taken by the IRS to have us believe that all of the emails sent by, not only Lois Lerner to government officials outside the IRS, but six other people suspected of complicity in the IRS abuses of power, are as absurd and unbelievable as those from Woods.

Let’s not forget that the 2nd article of impeachment that was drawn up against Richard Nixon was for the abuse of power related to using the IRS for political purposes. It’s clear that this arrogant Administration has done not only the same thing, but has moved well beyond the malfeasance of Nixon and his Administration towards the deliberate and intentional destruction of evidence.

Congress will do little beyond whinge and moan. The leadership in the House is afraid to confront the Administration and is content to meekly defer to the equally corrupt and criminal AG, Eric Holder who will not do anything to advance the investigations.

The only hope we have is for private entities like the victimized conservative groups and Judicial Watch to advance this through the civil courts – to the point where a judge actually orders the Administration to comply – and holds the Administration in contempt when they dont – just as Judge Sirricha’s rulings in Watergate forced the tapes into the public domain.

Athos on June 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Ahh yes, the dog ate my homework.
In this case it’s

“The dog ate our email.

Obama ate the dog.”

evilned on June 18, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Obama won’t have a Presidential library when his term is over, he will have a throne room. And another room where you can listen to all his speeches. And a cafeteria with food that one will eat.

Oil Can on June 18, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Well, if O’bama has it in Hawai’i, the cafeteria there can serve Dog; that’s one of the items that was on the menu for Hawaiian Royalty back in the day.

Interesting recent development-in the past the calls for Dear Leader’s Presidential Library in Hawai’i have centered on putting it in the Manoa Valley on the University of Hawai’i campus. But lately there have been rumblings about new attempts to get it built on the neighboring island of Kaua’i. Which is the same island where O’bama’s disgraced VA dude, Shinseki, hails from.

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 2:23 PM

So you better believe these low-level IT guys will start singing like canaries – especially since, now they know – the IRS has thrown them under the bus.

We just need to find the right guys to talk to.

HondaV65 on June 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Nothing a few sudden suicides among lower IT management cannot cure.

Rix on June 18, 2014 at 2:23 PM

That cartoon needs to be updated. It ain’t just Lois Lerner’s e-mails that were “lost”.

Doughboy on June 18, 2014 at 2:24 PM

None of this should be a surprise –

Obama is more Nixonian than Nixon…

Holder makes John Mitchell look like an altar boy….

They’ve learned the lessons from Watergate well – particularly in making evidence disappear, making sure that none on the Hill actually decide to put ethics before party loyalty, and ensuring that there is no John Dean or Mark Felt in the unlikely chance that the media actually starts to do it’s job.

The IRS operates as if those it investigates is guilty and must prove their innocence. It’s time we operate and hold this Administration to that same standard.

Athos on June 18, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Eric Holder will get right on this!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

GarandFan on June 18, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Others have already said it here in the comments, but let me add my voice: This scandal is far, far worse than anything Nixon did.

This was an attempt to crush conservative groups in order to win the election for a sitting leftwing President, and it worked. Whether or not it was the deciding factor is completely beside the point. This was the most extreme abuse of government power in my lifetime, and nothing has happened to say the IRS won’t do it again.

I’d say this calls for a demand (with the threat of impeachment) Obama appoint an independent investigator to look into it, but we know what kind of investigator he would appoint, and the media would give him a pass. Worse, there would be a drumbeat of ‘consensus’ from the media that the Republicans were just playing politics since they know the Senate the dumbass, worthless cows who call themselves American Voters elected would never convict. For anything.

fadetogray on June 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Nixon was caught as part of a cover up of something really stupid.

This is covering up something really terrible for America. If the ends justify the means for the left this time then we truly are very close to the unthinkable. A civil rebellion.

When the government is at war with the people and the ballot box is being corrupted there is only one response for the repressed.

I highly recommend that anyone on the left find a history book and look up any period of repression by any government and see how that turned out.

Capt Blasto on June 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Anywhere but the U.S. a rebellion would be inevitable. However, few average Americans have any idea what’s going on and fewer yet care. Our American experience is so artificial that people no longer believe economies can truly crash or that Western civilization might fail. If Leftists continue to run this country into the ground, the populace will continue to give them more power to fix it.

ROCnPhilly on June 18, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Not even a smidgen of scandal or corruption.

Barf.

GrassMudHorsey on June 18, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Southernblogger on June 18, 2014 at 2:17 PM

I watched Powers get unhinged on Fox last night. It was unbelievable how her view is “for the children” we should take in any child that makes it here.

Wow. While I have compassion for these specific children, I also have compassion for the thousands/millions more that will be encouraged to come here because of what’s happening unabated right now on our border.

If we sent them home, or had pit bulls and german shephards patrol the border, maybe word would get back to central and south america that it’s not worth it. Maybe these populations would stand up to their statist govts instead of bringing their entitlement expectations here.

I know I’m not the only one that’s tired of this.

freedomfirst on June 18, 2014 at 2:36 PM

If Leftists continue to run this country into the ground, the populace will continue to give them more power to fix it.

ROCnPhilly on June 18, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Meh, the Left will just take the power. The population will simply allow them to take it, too many being completely oblivious to what is going on outside their bubbles.

hawkeye54 on June 18, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Just the very appearance of corruption will limit right wing funding and activity by the grass roots. People are very afraid.

Just by dragging this story out, this administration is intimidating the opposition.

esr1951 on June 18, 2014 at 2:39 PM

is it nixonian if the media and 40% of the country take no notice?

warmairfan on June 18, 2014 at 2:40 PM

As far as corruption and lawlessness goes, Nixon couldn’t carry Obama’s jock.

Meople on June 18, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Say, the Obama White House is looking particularly Nixonian these days, huh?

Yes. Complete with an insufferably corrupt attorney general.

locomotivebreath1901 on June 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM

is it nixonian if the media and 40% of the country take no notice?

warmairfan on June 18, 2014 at 2:40 PM

“Nixonian” should actually mean 100% of the media would take notice, scream it all on the airwaves and in print around the clock, stirring up the public to make CONress take action to boot out the president.

When the media and 40% of the country don’t bother or care to take notice then it should be called “Obamian”

hawkeye54 on June 18, 2014 at 2:45 PM

I highly recommend that anyone on the left find a history book and look up any period of repression by any government and see how that turned out.

Capt Blasto on June 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM

I kind of expect this is a feature, not a bug. They probably figure a suitable number of drone strikes on flyover country and some “riot suppression” with the ever increasing armament of the DHS is the fastest route to end the Tea Taliban insurgency and usher in socialist utopia. The typical response to that has always been “the military wouldn’t let that happen”, which is why the military is both being cut to ribbons and suitably ideological people are being placed in key leadership positions. The other response is the Second Amendment, but I suppose a bunch of rifle toting folks in the hills can be ignored here just like they are in the Middle East and Africa by their own dictators.

TaraMaclay on June 18, 2014 at 2:48 PM

nixon was a criminal complicit in watergate. even if lerner is guilty of anything there is no evidence whatsoever tying her to obama or the whit house.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 18, 2014 at 2:48 PM

The real difference is the MSM didn’t let Tricky Dick get away with it.
Repeatedly.

Tard on June 18, 2014 at 2:48 PM

“The dog ate my hard drive!” and yet from what I’ve heard the great newsmen Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert have yet nada to say to their low-information audience. I guess it’s just not funny.

Marcus on June 18, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Those funny men aren’t so stupid as to tick off the IRS. I mean, come on man!!

Deano1952 on June 18, 2014 at 2:50 PM

nixon was a criminal complicit in watergate. even if lerner is guilty of anything there is no evidence whatsoever tying her to obama or the whit house.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 18, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Actually there is. Lerner met with SOMEONE in the White House, we already know that. And WHEN we see the rest of her emails (that’s only a matter of time, despite your party’s best efforts to cover them up), we’ll have proof of that.

Your side has re-written the book on stonewalls and cover-ups during Talibama’s Reign of Tyranny.

Meople on June 18, 2014 at 2:52 PM

The real difference is the MSM didn’t let Tricky Dick get away with it.
Repeatedly.

Tard on June 18, 2014 at 2:48 PM

This ^^^^ exactly.

Talibama wouldn’t have been able to get away with HALF of what he has, if he didn’t have a slobbering, lapdog, State-Run media actively covering for him. That’s a fact.

Meople on June 18, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Let’s not forget that the 2nd article of impeachment that was drawn up against Richard Nixon was for the abuse of power related to using the IRS for political purposes.

Athos on June 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Worth a look:

Article 2

Using the powers of the office of President of the United States, __________________________________, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in disregard of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has repeatedly engaged in conduct violating the constitutional rights of citizens, impairing the due and proper administration of justice and the conduct of lawful inquiries, or contravening the laws governing agencies of the executive branch and the purposed of these agencies.

This conduct has included one or more of the following:

1. He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavoured to obtain from the Internal Revenue Service, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, confidential information contained in income tax returns for purposed not authorized by law, and to cause, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigations to be intitiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner.

etc.

Name of the president to whom Article 2 refers intentionally left blank so that you can write in the name of any other president who fills the bill.

The only hope we have is for private entities like the victimized conservative groups and Judicial Watch to advance this through the civil courts – to the point where a judge actually orders the Administration to comply – and holds the Administration in contempt when they dont – just as Judge Sirricha’s rulings in Watergate forced the tapes into the public domain.

There’s also some chance, that if the GOP takes the Senate, that body would approve H.R. 4138 ENFORCE the Law Act, which would allow the House or Senate to file suit against the Administration for failure to comply with or enforce laws.

Big “if.”

Question: Would an impeachment trial in the Senate allow for discovery– to find out exactly the extent of cooperation between the White House, DOJ, and the IRS? And the contents of all those missing IRS emails?

de rigueur on June 18, 2014 at 3:03 PM

It’s really offensive to Nixon to make the comparison. Obama has so fully gone beyond any of Nixon’s transgressions that Nixon looks like an innocent little Boy Scout in comparison.

People need to find a different villain to compare Obama to. Honestly, even Carter looks favorable by this time.

Texas Zombie on June 18, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Poulos is one sick puppy that finally realizes that this administration is in deep trouble with the American people. However his statement “Putative scandals like the Benghazi incident strike many of us as not just farfetched but almost, as they put it in Spinal Tap, “best left unsolved.” shows that he is totally devoid of any sense of integrity and honor. For POTUS and SoS to both openly lie to the American people and especially to the survivors of the murdered four, to their faces, is so far from the American way for our leaders to act that it is approaching treason. The IRS scandal is an abuse of power right or wrong but the lie told by obama and hillary go to the heart of our entire system of fairness and honesty in government. There will always be lies in politics but lying about death to cover your ass is nothing but a cheap trick used by every two bit murder.

inspectorudy on June 18, 2014 at 3:12 PM

In my column today for The Week, I also argue that the disappearance of records from an agency that would hardly tolerate such excuses from any other American is the kind of smoking hypocrisy that will keep this scandal alive

Why would *this* scandal cross that threshold? The one where the IRS doesn’t have any idea where some 10s or 100s of millions of dollars of its budget were spent certainly didn’t cause a great upheaval. Why the heck would a bunch of missing emails (80% of Americans don’t have any idea how email even remotely works) push them over that line when missing $$$s didn’t?

GWB on June 18, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Question: Would an impeachment trial in the Senate allow for discovery– to find out exactly the extent of cooperation between the White House, DOJ, and the IRS? And the contents of all those missing IRS emails?

de rigueur on June 18, 2014 at 3:03 PM

Given that Holder’s Department of Social Justice, the FBI, et al, are actively covering up all of the lawlessness of Talibama and his Regime, I would say that any type of discovery would be virtually impossible.

The ONLY way we will ever learn the extent of their law-breaking will be IF we elect a President that actually wants to get to the bottom of it.

In the end, I’m expecting 80% or more of the corruption to be swept under the rug. A good number of (R)’s don’t want to learn the truth either.

Meople on June 18, 2014 at 3:14 PM

nixon was a criminal complicit in watergate. even if lerner is guilty of anything there is no evidence whatsoever tying her to obama or the whit house.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 18, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Nothing at this point, except what reason would lead you to believe. But, of course, that is something you lack – in spades.

GWB on June 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM

The beginning of the end of all of this will be the impeachment of Eric Holder until than the Regime acts with total impunity and the repubs even if they win the senate will put it all off until after the next election. The Stupid party.

tim c on June 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM

There’s almost too many scandals swirling around right now: Benghazi, IRS, Obamacare (not technically a “scandal” but appears more broken every day), Iraq invasion at the border.

Can the GOP capitalize? Or are they too busy fighting their base?

will77jeff on June 18, 2014 at 3:34 PM

The emails in my mind connect all the dots and they knew once it got out that tea party conservative groups were under scrutiny they had to do some stalling and quick thinking. White house, House Dems, and IRS all conspired on this and they were acting in concert and these emails, if retrieved, will prove it.

jaywemm on June 18, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Nixon was hounded by the media.

When is it the Choom Gang’s turn?

formwiz on June 18, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Did Lerner let the cat out of the bag after they knew the emails were totally scrubbed or was it passed the election so it didn’t matter?

tim c on June 18, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Don’t expect this to go away soon result in any kind of accountability soon.

FIFY. It doesn’t need to “go away.” It won’t go anywhere at all.

xNavigator on June 18, 2014 at 4:23 PM

nixon was a criminal complicit in watergate. even if lerner is guilty of anything there is no evidence whatsoever tying her to obama or the whit house.

ThisIsWhat’sLeftOfYouBrainOnSoros on June 18, 2014 at 2:48 PM

As others here have noted, one of the Articles of Impeachemnt against Nixon was over his using the IRS to go after his political enemies.

But one of the other Articles of Impeachment accused him of disobeying subpoenas, something that the current Attorney General has done several times with no consequence.

As for Lerner, she has already admitted her guilt; she was the one who first disclosed that the IRS was spying on O’bama’s political opponents, and she confirmed her guilt by pleading the 5th before Congress.

As for evidence tying her to the “whit house”, there is plenty of such evidence. In the 2 years around the 2012 election, senior IRS officials visited the “whit house” hundreds of times.

Top IRS officials, whose agency was under investigation for targeting conservative groups, visited the Obama White House more than 100 times over two years while the probe was going on, far more often than in previous administrations and frequently enough that Republicans suspect White House officials knew about the targeting.

Lawmakers now investigating the Internal Revenue Service practice zeroed in on those nearly weekly White House meetings to determine whether an IRS official — or someone higher up in the administration — had approved the targeting and whether it was politically motivated.

The frequent meetings also raised questions about the White House’s claims that it couldn’t have instigated the targeting of conservative groups because it took a hands-off approach to the tax agency, going so far as to describe it as independent of the administration even though it’s part of the Treasury Department.

The frequent trips to the White House under Obama far outnumbered the times other administrations felt the need to meet with the IRS, according to Mark Everson, who led the IRS under former President George W. Bush. Everson said he remembers making only one trip to the White House between 2003 and 2007 and said he felt like he’d “moved to Siberia” because of the isolation.

In addition, if there is no tie between Lerner and the “whit house”, why is she hiding all of those e-mails, and what is she hiding? If she and O’bama were in fact guilt-free, wouldn’t they want to release any and all evidence to prove it, and thus prove that their opponents are loons?

F-

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

nixon was a criminal complicit in watergate. even if lerner is guilty of anything there is no evidence whatsoever tying her to obama or the whit house.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 18, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Well duh. They havent given up a piece of evidence requested and now its clear they are destroying the emails that link Lerner to the WH.

ObamatheMessiah on June 18, 2014 at 4:46 PM

It’s really offensive to Nixon to make the comparison. Obama has so fully gone beyond any of Nixon’s transgressions that Nixon looks like an innocent little Boy Scout in comparison.

People need to find a different villain to compare Obama to. Honestly, even Carter looks favorable by this time.

Texas Zombie on June 18, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Agree. On the scale of evil, Barry is somewhere between Nixon and Stalin, and closer to Stalin than most Americans would fear to consider.

slickwillie2001 on June 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM

the ACLU asked a Florida court for an emergency motion that would require the city to make its stingray records available via a public records request. These devices, which are also known as international mobile subscriber identity (IMSI) catchers, can be used to track phones or, in some cases, intercept calls and text messages.

Federal authorities frustrated the ACLU’s efforts to learn how the devices are used in Sarasota after the US Marshals Service (USMS) deputized a local police detective. The USMS then physically moved the stack of paper records hundreds of miles away.

Socratease on June 18, 2014 at 5:37 PM

The IRS may not be hiding something

An abundance of caution from Ed?

The IRS, just like the VA, NSA, ATF, Justice, HHS, EPA, and the rest ARE hiding a great deal from public scrutiny, and Congressional oversight. TO believe otherwise is delusional.

At the very least, an overwhelming argument is present for the Republicans: GOVERNMENT INCOMPETENCE. Obamacare roll-out, VA malfeasance, and IRS inability to produce records is simply a stunning demonstration of how out-of-control, incompetent, ghastly expensive, and incredibly inefficient BIG Government is.

Unfortunately, we are still waiting for the Republicans to discover the argument and make it effectively. It seems that Republican leadership is as enamored of Big Government as the Democrats and bureaucrats, and are not comfortable attacking their feeding trough.

pilsener on June 18, 2014 at 5:51 PM

When Rosemary Woods was asked to demonstrate how she ‘accidentally’, erased the infamous tape, the contortions she had to undertake made it obvious that it was no ‘accident’.

I recall seeing a photo of the “Rose Mary Stretch” in Life or Time or some other magazine. She was reaching way to her left to answer the phone and claimed that her legs, stretching way to the right, “accidentally” kicked on the record button. Of course in the photo you can see she executed the maneuver with both feet on the floor. About as amateurish spin as the “Lerner Crash.”

Mallard T. Drake on June 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM

None of this should be a surprise –

Obama is more Nixonian than Nixon…

Holder makes John Mitchell look like an altar boy….

Who gets to play Margaret Mitchell and spill all the beans?

Mallard T. Drake on June 18, 2014 at 5:55 PM

The IRS may not be hiding something? Really? Because Lois Lerner took the 5th. When there is nothing to hide there is no reason to take the 5th.

You only take the 5th so you don’t have to tell the crime you committed! If there was no crime you testify.

They are at very least hiding emails that were subpoenaed by Congress!

Email goes two ways. Subpoena the whole government and the DNC for any email containing the words Tea Party, Lois Lerner, or any other words that would be enlightening!!!

Remember also that the head of the IRS spent an awful lot of time in the Whitehouse!

They are so deep in this that it will be nearly impossible to know if we have the truth once we have it!!!

petunia on June 18, 2014 at 6:08 PM

This is called the liberal version of transparency.

Hiding everything from public view… you know that kind of transparent.

Orwell must have had a crystal ball.

petunia on June 18, 2014 at 6:10 PM

The IRS may not be hiding something,

…. but that’s not the way to bet.

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 18, 2014 at 8:16 PM