Is Hillary imploding?

posted at 8:01 pm on June 18, 2014 by Allahpundit

Keep hope alive, says Jonathan Last. Not only has she been gaffe-ing up America’s airwaves — the “dead broke” remark, that gay-marriage meltdown interview with NPR, and some offhanded inanity about how smart the Russian reset was — but it’s all been happening against a backdrop of fiasco for American foreign policy.

How’d you like to be a former Secretary of State running on this record?

Obama — perhaps you’ve heard this? — got bin Laden. But other than that, his foreign policy record is disastrous: Libya, Egypt, Syria, the South China Sea, Crimea, Iraq, Afghanistan. It is difficult to find a spot on the globe that is better off today than when Obama took office. And yet Obama’s foreign policy is the only entry of substance on Hillary Clinton’s resume right now. Which means it will carry double the weight.

For Obama, Putin and Crimea are a mid-size political problem, ranked somewhere above the Keystone pipeline. For Clinton it’s an existential problem because foreign affairs are the only measures for her basic professional competence.

Think about it from the perspective of a Democratic voter: Hillary Clinton was wrong on Monica Lewinsky during the (Bill) Clinton years, wrong on gay marriage and Iraq during the Bush years, and now wrong on Putin and Syria and Egypt and the whole of American foreign policy during the Obama years. What has she ever been right on? And if you’re a Democratic voter, at some point you start to wonder, Can’t we do better?

Do you? Go watch this clip before you answer. My trust in the commentariat’s ability to gauge which gaffes are truly damaging among average voters and which aren’t is down to zero at this point, and yeah, I certainly include myself in “the commentariat.” The ultimate example of this, I think, is Obama’s “you didn’t build that” line during the 2012 campaign. Conservative media blew up over it, me included, to the point where it became a key theme at the GOP convention. Voters didn’t care, though, because most voters aren’t “builders.” They’re wage-earners. You could crap on entrepreneurs all day and they wouldn’t flinch, although it’d probably convince the Chamber of Commerce to pause from its amnesty campaigning for five minutes to write a check to your opponent.

My hunch is that nothing Hillary’s said this week has reduced her chances. It takes a big gaffe to register with average voters, and that gaffe has to reveal some perceived “deeper truth” about the candidate to have legs, I suspect. That’s why Romney’s “47 percent” comment outgrew the punditocracy and actually penetrated the electorate. It seemed to confirm the sense of him as a country-club Republican who looked down on the lower class. There’s potential, I guess, for Hillary’s “dead broke” comment and her stupid whining about how “brutal” American politics is to make her seem “out of touch,” but never forget that she’s got Bill around to give her a shot of blue-collar appeal when needed. If her last name weren’t “Clinton,” you might have something in drawing her as the consummate limousine liberal. As it is, I think it’s a glancing blow, nothing more, especially if the GOP ends up supporting the “out of touch” attack by, er, nominating a guy named Bush. As for the gay-marriage interview, it’s hard for me to believe liberals are going to give her too hard a time over any heresy knowing how difficult it is for a party to win the White House for three consecutive terms. Iraq is the perfect example. Her vote to invade helped Obama pull the upset in 2008, but no one thinks it’ll keep her from the nomination now. She’s clearly the strongest candidate Democrats have in an extremely difficult political climate. They’ll be prudent in deciding how severely to punish her for deviations from orthodoxy.

As for foreign policy, everything Last said is true — it looks like O’s going to toss her the keys to an agenda that’s been completely totaled. But … since when do voters elect presidents based on foreign policy? The only clear example I can think of recently is 2004 and it took 9/11 to make that happen. Even in 2008, when Obama ran as the anti-Bush and the GOP nominated the hawk di tutti hawks, McCain was competitive until the bottom dropped out on Wall Street. Unless Rand Paul shocks everyone in the primaries, the next Republican nominee is likely to run to Hillary’s right on foreign policy, which will set her up nicely to run a “no more Iraqs” campaign. (Repudiating her own vote for war will also rally the left.) That strategy might not work as well as it did in 2008, but barring any major terror attacks on the U.S., it’ll work well enough to neutralize most of the GOP’s foreign-policy criticism, especially if the economy picks up a bit in 2015-16 and gives her something else to talk about. You have two big problems running against her and neither has anything to do with the finer points of foreign policy. One: How do you neutralize Bill’s popularity? She’s going to run on his economic record, not O’s, and he’s going to help her — a lot, I’ll bet — with blue-collar voters. She may be a bad retail politician but he’s an exceptional one, and he’ll be campaigning as much as she will. What do you do about it? (Start by nominating a conspicuously blue-collar yourself, I’d guess.) Two: How do you neutralize the “it’s time for a woman” argument? That argument doesn’t depend on who’s gaffed worst or who was really responsible for security at the Benghazi consulate. My hunch is that the GOP will start this campaign with a single-digit lead among men and Hillary will start with a double-digit lead among women. Either we build heavily on the former or reduce the latter or we lose. Is the “dead broke” thing or Ukraine going to help do that?

Update: Tough but fair.


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Imploding. Deflating. Regressing. Who cares? Hillary is showing her weakness early on so it gives people food for thought.

coolrepublica on June 18, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Just setting up the “comeback kid” storyline. Every cycle it’s like this. Why do we keep falling for it?

lorien1973 on June 18, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Doesnt matter if Hillary “implodes”. A solid 45% of the nation will pull the lever for Hillary. Just need to convince another 6% of the voting public that the Republican candidate is worse (and the GOPe will be right there to help!).

Jedditelol on June 18, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Her disciples high and low don’t care about what she says or does. It’s her time, dammit!

MT on June 18, 2014 at 8:08 PM

1. Reptilian Stepford Harpy without remorse, conscience or soul perched on cankles wrapped in a pantsuit hoping desperately to be elected so that she may inflict her own particular brand of Socialist personality cult upon the country by riding on the coat tails of a politically gifted but equally amoral spouse enlisting the aid of media shills and accusations of sexism to neuter critics.

trubble on June 18, 2014 at 6:18 PM

From another thread. Hillary defined.

DeweyWins on June 18, 2014 at 8:08 PM

The big story is that the left-wing media are actually asking a liberal politician journalistic questions.

When was the last time that happened?

Looks like Hillary isn’t wanted by the leftist in-crowd.

sharrukin on June 18, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Is Hillary imploding?

Lolz! Yes. Ick.

Bmore on June 18, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Whose fading faster HRC or Obama?

swamp_yankee on June 18, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Is Hillary imploding?

If by ‘Imploding’ you mean aging badly and getting some well deserved and long delayed comeuppance…

Then yes.

BigWyo on June 18, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Obama is her ally.

/Nice try, Hillary. You better get in a helicopter to Mars. If you’re not too broke to afford it. You aided, abetted, vociferously supported this Barack Hussein Obama.

How DARE you even THINK to run on his platform. That’s not a question, it’s a statement.

As a woman, I admire your accomplishments, your diligence to your causes, your poise and (what used to be) your dignity.

That is all.

Key West Reader on June 18, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Obama — perhaps you’ve heard this? — got bin Laden.

Yeah …. okay. We have yet to see any proof of any of the story/stories told about this mission – though we have understood that Barky put it off time and again (as he loves to stall until most things are rendered worthless). But … not a photo. Nothing. The whole bin laden raid is to be taken on pure faith from a junta that has never told the truth about anything. Yep …

As to Shrillary, she’s a moron. She’s about as dumb as Barky but Shrillary doesn’t have the magic skin to protect her. All she has is a blank look on that ugly face and her cankles to use as artillery pieces. Shrillary is barely human. Frankly, I think she falls under the “clump of cells” description … a big fat, stupid, incompetent clump of cells with cankles.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 18, 2014 at 8:09 PM

I think, is Obama’s “you didn’t build that” line during the 2012 campaign. Conservative media blew up over it, me included, to the point where it became a key theme at the GOP convention. Voters didn’t care, though, because most voters aren’t “builders.” They’re wage-earners. You could crap on entrepreneurs all day and they wouldn’t flinch, although it’d probably convince the Chamber of Commerce to pause from its amnesty campaigning for five minutes to write a check to your opponent.

My hunch is that nothing Hillary’s said this week has reduced her chances. It takes a big gaffe to register with average voters, and that gaffe has to reveal some perceived “deeper truth” about the candidate to have legs, I suspect. That’s why Romney’s “47 percent” comment outgrew the punditocracy and actually penetrated the electorate. It seemed to confirm the sense of him as a country-club Republican who looked down on the lower class.

Correct on all points, AP.

Stoic Patriot on June 18, 2014 at 8:10 PM

What has she ever been right on?

What have any of them ever been right on? Being wrong isn’t a drawback, over there. Even on the non-subjective stuff. They made the all-time most epic failure of a scientist their “Science Czar”. No one can name one thing this so-called scientist ever got right.

Buddahpundit on June 18, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Hillary – to know her – is to not like her. Simple as that.

jake-the-goose on June 18, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Does it matter whether Hillary is imploding when the GOP’s big idea is a man in a squirrel suit?

Nuts! Why do I think this will be reissued?

And, Hillary looks like she’s inflating not imploding.

Fallon on June 18, 2014 at 8:12 PM

As a woman, I admire your accomplishments, your diligence to your causes, your poise and (what used to be) your dignity.

That is all.

Key West Reader on June 18, 2014 at 8:09 PM

As a guy I must defer to your womanhood but, dignity? When did she have that?

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:13 PM

She’s doing exactly like she always does, reminding voters how unlikable she is.

Flange on June 18, 2014 at 8:14 PM

2016 isn’t going to depend on Hillary or any other Democratic candidate. It’s going to be decided by Obama’s final 2 years in office and the Republican nominee. And which side is more depressed enough to stay home.

de rigueur on June 18, 2014 at 8:14 PM

From the XtraNormal video I made 3-1/2 years ago, which you’ll see by clicking on my name:

Bill: Hillary, you have a deaf ear for politics. Do you know why I asked Barack to make you Secretary of State?

Hillary: Because of my feminine ability to achieve consensus with foreign countries.

Bill: No, not exactly. I wanted to make sure Barack failed, and it worked. Gloriously. You screwed up his foreign policy beyond my wildest dreams.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on June 18, 2014 at 8:14 PM

It would appear that Killy is “imploding” – BUT – it is important to keep in mind that EVERYTHING Killary does – EVERYTHING Killary says, has been carefully scripted and choreographed by ‘team obama’. If Killary is “imploding”, it is exactly as planned.

Killary is doing everything she can to destroy the fantasy that she is liked, and electable – because she probably has never had any intention of running – ‘team obama’ is busy prepping their real (chosen) candidate behind the scenes – WE must be ready for whoever they vomit up.

Pork-Chop on June 18, 2014 at 8:15 PM

MT: It was her turn in 2008,IIRC.

That worked out really good, didn’t it?

RedPepper on June 18, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Hillary – to know her – is to not like her. Simple as that.

jake-the-goose on June 18, 2014 at 8:11 PM

/Anthony Weiner approves of this post.

You better forgive me, cause I could not resist.

Key West Reader on June 18, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Does it matter whether Hillary is imploding when the GOP’s big idea is a man in a squirrel suit?

I don’t know, where does the guy in the squirrel stand on amnesty?

NotCoach on June 18, 2014 at 8:17 PM

You have two big problems running against her and neither has anything to do with the finer points of foreign policy. One: How do you neutralize Bill’s popularity?
Two: How do you neutralize the “it’s time for a woman” argument?

1.) You nominate a blue collar type (e.g. Huckabee) who comes across as affable and folksy, and you simultaneously make a case that Bill Clinton represents a fundamental perversion of what is good and right in American society put in a deceptively-friendly package.

2.) You neutralize it by overtly mocking its absurdity. Question how Hillary trumpeting her ovaries demonstrates that she has any brains. Demand to know her values beyond her v*gina, and mock them on the merits. And finally, establish the positive case for the GOP nominee, outshining the woman argument by virtue of laying out a vision for an idealized America. That when contrasted with a secondary message of her being a Democrat, and the Democratic party platform representing all that is wrong and evil in society, should do the trick.

Stoic Patriot on June 18, 2014 at 8:19 PM

As a guy I must defer to your womanhood but, dignity? When did she have that?

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Or accomplishments.

katy the mean old lady on June 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

As a guy I must defer to your womanhood but, dignity? When did she have that?

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:13 PM

I remember her in the early 90′s. She was poised, outspoken, a bit abrasive, kind of mouthy. A “new kinda First Lady” that was quickly put down after HillaryCare.

But, back then she and her husband had more integrity. Without integrity one lacks dignity. Without dignity, one is worthless.

Key West Reader on June 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Is Hillary imploding?

like a neutron star before it goes all supernova in your faces..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 18, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Demand to know her values beyond her v*gina, and mock them on the merits.

Stoic Patriot on June 18, 2014 at 8:19 PM

I don’t think shillary has a v*gina……………

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Without dignity, one is worthless.

Key West Reader on June 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Is Hillary imploding?

like a neutron star before it goes all supernova in your faces..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 18, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Wow! timing is everything……………………

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM

But, back then she and her husband had more integrity.

Key West Reader on June 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Have you been drinking?

katy the mean old lady on June 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Melting

StubbornGreenBurros on June 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM

I’ve been hearing this b!tch since I was young. With hillarycare, it takes a village, and all the other nonsense. But the bluehairs in their priuses still love her.

That’s her base. gaffes won’t switch them, ever.

I don’t see it growing much. Maybe a few young upcoming feminazis.

Who is she going to win over to expand her base?

Btw, AP,, great read.

wolly4321 on June 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Hillary is imploding puffy…

JohnGalt23 on June 18, 2014 at 8:26 PM

One: How do you neutralize Bill’s popularity? She’s going to run on his economic record, not O’s, and he’s going to help her — a lot, I’ll bet — with blue-collar voters. She may be a bad retail politician but he’s an exceptional one, and he’ll be campaigning as much as she will. What do you do about it?

You know, they said Bill would be an asset in 2008. Combined with the vaunted Clinton machine, Bill would be the White Knight that would carry Hillary to the 2008 nomination and on to the presidency. We all know how that ended.

I am not saying Bill won’t be an asset, but history has shown that he’s not the magic bullet for Hillary.

BobSagetsRevenge on June 18, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Have you been drinking?

katy the mean old lady on June 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM

LOL! Key is a great gal and is just being nice here. Love ya too katy!

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Hillary and her crew are getting a taste of what the Dems have become under Obie..I guess there is “no home for older white women Dems”?..:)

Dire Straits on June 18, 2014 at 8:27 PM

I remember her in the early 90′s. She was poised, outspoken, a bit abrasive, kind of mouthy. A “new kinda First Lady” that was quickly put down after HillaryCare.

Key West Reader on June 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Shrillary was a lying, incompetent SackOS back in the 90s. Did you see her laughable “press conference” about her cattle future trading prowess? Probably not.

Shrillary’s only actual accomplishment back then was cleaning out Vince Foster’s office before the coroner could even get him on ice. Shrillary was on top of that!

She did manage to get one thing through from SHrillaryCare, though. She got the feds essentially in charge of vaccines (“for the chillen’!!!”, of course) which led to the collapse of the vaccine industry and was one of the reasons why we can never get the right vaccines on time – even for the delusional epidemics that the feral government has loved to predict is about to kill everyone, every year or two.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 18, 2014 at 8:27 PM

so far, i don’t see any GOPe able to touch her. She is not a celebrity, rock-star, prezy like barry is…and that’s good for most people. They want a ‘serious’ person at the top.

I mean someone who looks serious. The GOPe is in a tight spot. They lack retail politic skills (cf. Mitt, McCain)…and are easily portrayed as plutocratic buffoons by an eager leftist press.

And, best of all, the GOPe tends to hate its base. I mean really…Hillary will look pretty good to about 53 percent of the voters when the time comes.

and always remember the left has a lock on a ton of EVs…the GOPe is a dying party, consigned to rural areas

r keller on June 18, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Btw, AP,, great read.

wolly4321 on June 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM

thank you!

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 18, 2014 at 8:27 PM

wolly4321 on June 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM

+ 100..Agreed..:)

Dire Straits on June 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM

LOL! Key is a great gal and is just being nice here. Love ya too katy!

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:26 PM

I know she is.

katy the mean old lady on June 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM

like a neutron star before it goes all supernova in your faces..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 18, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Neutron stars don’t go nova – and certainly not supernova – you blithering idiot. But I do agree with you that SHrillary is exploding, not imploding. She’ll leave parts of cankles and diseased grey matter all over the place.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 18, 2014 at 8:30 PM

What the media takes down, the media can rehabilitate. This is all happening far enough from 2016 to be forgotten when primaries roll around.

will77jeff on June 18, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Is Hillary imploding?

Awesome headline AP. Made my day.

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Giving away free stuff ranks higher than all of nonsensical foreign policy.

southsideironworks on June 18, 2014 at 8:30 PM

katy the mean old lady on June 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Good to see you..:)

Dire Straits on June 18, 2014 at 8:31 PM

The key to defeating Hillary(aside from her imploding which is a distinct possibility) is for the GOP to do 3 things:

1) DO NOT nominate anymore so-called moderates, especially one with the last name Bush. Shoving a left-of-center, allegedly electable candidate down the base’s throat for the 3rd consecutive Presidential election will not only cost the GOP the White House in 2016, it could mean the end of the party. I’d bet good money the Tea Party/Conservative wing puts up their own candidate as an independent in 2020 if we get force-fed a Jeb or CRISTie candidacy.

2) Remind the electorate every single minute of every day that a vote for Hillary is a vote for 4(and likely 8) more years of what the country has endured under Obama. Yes, 40-45% will always pull the lever for the Dems, but if 50.1+% of the country really wants to subject everyone to potentially 16 years of this kind of world chaos, economic stagnation, and bureaucratic incompetence and corruption, then we can finally start to have a serious talk about a national divorce.

3) Go heavily after the male vote. As many women may pull the lever for Hillary to make history or for some BS sisterhood excuse, even more men may go for the GOP nominee just to avoid hearing that shrieking for 8 years. And don’t be afraid to use those clips of her annoying voice in campaign ads. That “I’m sick and tired” audio should be worth at least 5 points in the polls.

Doughboy on June 18, 2014 at 8:31 PM

But, back then she and her husband had more integrity.

Key West Reader on June 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Have you been drinking?

katy the mean old lady on June 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Yeah, a few beers. I guess I should elaborate –

they APPEARED to have more integrity.

I think the Universe knows that the Clinton Brand is, well… not worth investing in at this point. Hence, my recommendation that the Clinton’s move to Mars.

/Maybe Martians will buy their bullsh*t

Key West Reader on June 18, 2014 at 8:33 PM

SHrillary is exploding, not imploding. She’ll leave parts of cankles and diseased grey matter all over the place.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 18, 2014 at 8:30 PM

There is not enough Lestoil and bleach in the world.

katy the mean old lady on June 18, 2014 at 8:33 PM

OT Bmore did you see the eagle fly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik8hdnV1Q0Y

Barred on June 18, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Good to see you..:)

Dire Straits on June 18, 2014 at 8:31 PM

You too, sweetie pie.

katy the mean old lady on June 18, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Maybe this time the GOP should try something radically different and let the base pick the nominee.

myiq2xu on June 18, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Neutron stars don’t go nova – and certainly not supernova – you blithering idiot. But I do agree with you that SHrillary is exploding, not imploding. She’ll leave parts of cankles and diseased grey matter all over the place.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 18, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Let’s not make Clinton Stew over all this mess, ummm kay?

Key West Reader on June 18, 2014 at 8:34 PM

The Guardians in the MSM can’t protect Barky and Hillary at the same time.

MSM Mission One is to save Bark’s ass, so Hill gets grilled.

Granted it’s temporary, but it is enjoyable.

Bruno Strozek on June 18, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I should also clarify my comment, just in case the GOP ever does decide to heed my advice. The point of saying things like having ovaries is not the same thing as having brains is not to attack Hillary Clinton specifically. Rather, the point is to create a social atmosphere such that instead of people being filled with a sense of ‘pride’ for having voted for the ‘first woman president,’ they are instead embarrassed and have a sense of shame that their reasons to support her are so shallow. Convincing Americans that voting for a woman because she’s a woman is a sign of their failings rather than an aspirational goal will deflate enthusiasm for Clinton and make it easier to win.

Also, refrain from ever addressing Clinton as ‘Hillary.’ First names tend to ‘humanize’ candidates. That’s why Oprah is called Oprah rather than Winfrey, and why the SuperPAC is called Ready for Hillary rather than Ready for Clinton.

Finally, the GOP needs to put in some effort at casting Clinton as old blood. The Clintons have a past, and it’s time for the country to move past the Bush-Clinton era rather than constantly trying to relive it.

Stoic Patriot on June 18, 2014 at 8:35 PM

like a neutron star before it goes all supernova in your faces..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 18, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Still top 5 dimmest HA poster! Congratulations !!

Would you PLEASE grow up?

CW on June 18, 2014 at 8:36 PM

2008 Marxist vs. Marxista ad produced by the current Marxist.

Creepy

StubbornGreenBurros on June 18, 2014 at 8:36 PM

NBC says about three quarters of voters have already either made up their minds or are close enough to call it that. Among voters broadly her approval ratings are under water and so, since the voters know her really, really well, it seems likely to me that she is underwater with the remaining few voters who won’t say what their decision is. In short, Hillary has already last this election long before the first negative ad goes up.

Of course, that assumes the Democrats allow a serious primary challenge. If she gets through to the general the usual GOP idiocy factor comes into play. If some nimrod “electable” candidate gets nominated by the GOP we will probably see President Hillary. If Scott Walker gets nominated, then the federal employee unions are in for a rough next four years.

MTF on June 18, 2014 at 8:36 PM

My hunch is that the GOP will start this campaign with a single-digit lead among men and Hillary will start with a double-digit lead among women. Either we build heavily on the former or reduce the latter or we lose.

That’s true, which is why if Hillary really does implode, the left will be looking at Elizabeth Warren.

They will nominate a woman, just not necessarily Hillary.

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Bruno Strozek on June 18, 2014 at 8:35 PM

lolz..I hear you..:)

Dire Straits on June 18, 2014 at 8:39 PM

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:37 PM

The Indian Princess??!!??..I can wish that comes true..:)

Dire Straits on June 18, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Doughboy on June 18, 2014 at 8:31 PM

I agree with your first two points, but not the third. The GOP already has an image as the party of “old white men”. Sorry, but there aren’t enough of them around.

Meanwhile, the GOP is getting killed with every other demographic.

The party needs to appeal a lot more to women as well as men. And I say that as a woman myself.

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:41 PM

The Indian Princess??!!??..I can wish that comes true..:)

Dire Straits on June 18, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Me too.

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:41 PM

I agree with your first two points, but not the third. The GOP already has an image as the party of “old white men”. Sorry, but there aren’t enough of them around.

Meanwhile, the GOP is getting killed with every other demographic.

The party needs to appeal a lot more to women as well as men. And I say that as a woman myself.

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Ted Cruz.

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Dire Straits on June 18, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Oh, I’m sure Eliz Warren is their back up plan. I can’t think of another D woman that they would be interested in.

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

HELL YES……HER POLL NUMBERS ARE DROPPING FASTER THEN BILL PANTS.

Rook on June 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

The party needs to appeal a lot more to women as well as men. And I say that as a woman myself.

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Agreed..Plus GOP has a lot of work to do reaching minority groups..:)

Dire Straits on June 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

2016: “We need a female President”! “It’s historic”!

2020: “We need a Hispanic President”! “It’s historic”!

2024: “We need a ghey President”! “It’s historic”!

2028: “We need a trans-gender President”! It’s historic”

2030: “Vote Hu Jintao”! “It’s mandatory”!

StubbornGreenBurros on June 18, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Ted Cruz.

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Sounds good. :) Cruz/Martinez sounds excellent. :)

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:44 PM

3) Go heavily after the male vote. As many women may pull the lever for Hillary to make history or for some BS sisterhood excuse, even more men may go for the GOP nominee just to avoid hearing that shrieking for 8 years. And don’t be afraid to use those clips of her annoying voice in campaign ads. That “I’m sick and tired” audio should be worth at least 5 points in the polls.

Doughboy on June 18, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Her laugh is damning. That’s some serious “Wicked Witch of the West” material in waiting.

Stoic Patriot on June 18, 2014 at 8:44 PM

She’s one more blow to head from withdrawing her name from consideration….

d1carter on June 18, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Sounds good. :) Cruz/Martinez sounds excellent. :)

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:44 PM

That works for me.

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Dire Straits on June 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

That’s for sure. Rand Paul is right when he says we need a bigger tent. The GOP has the majority of white men, but that’s about it.

We can’t keep losing to women and minorities and expect to ever take the White House again.

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Update: Tough but fair.

Nope. Sorry, AP. That’s not fair. The squirrel is not (R)’s “big idea.” It is a humorous ancillary meant to draw attention to Hillary’s gross inadequacies. Now, to go ahead with the squirrel when she was doing a fine job of kneecapping herself was certainly a questionable decision. But the notion that the squirrel is the “big idea” for Repubs is ridiculous.

yaedon on June 18, 2014 at 8:47 PM

She’s one more blow to head from withdrawing her name from consideration….

d1carter on June 18, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Biden – “how’s Hillary’s head”
Billyjeff – “not as good as Mon…….”

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:47 PM

…Unfortunately, amnesty DOES appear to be the (R)’s big idea, and that is much worse than the dang squirrel.

yaedon on June 18, 2014 at 8:48 PM

the dems have credidle candidates otehr than her. and they know it. on msnbc they talk about how the pubs are like almost dead right? well, they have a national bench of 7-9 credible potus candidates. the dems have 1. and she imploding. after her you have a mental patient over 70 and 3 guys no ones ever heard from from deep blue states that have zero chance nationally. then the squaw, who we all prey they turn to. but they wont. they’ll hold their nose and take the last ‘man’ standing; hill. or first man i suppose. only man. regardless of everything in this article.

t8stlikchkn on June 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

2030: “Vote Hu Jintao”! “It’s mandatory”!

StubbornGreenBurros on June 18, 2014 at 8:43 PM

At the current pace, do you really think it’ll take that long? You’re mighty optimistic.

yaedon on June 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

The left really does not like nor want Hillary as POTUS. They DO, however, want to break that glass ceiling of having the first female elected to the office. What better way than to take the recent sympathy for the plight of the disparaged native American Indian at the hands of those bigoted Washington ‘Football Club’ cretins, and posit Liawatha Warren herself as the candidate du jour?

Just think…We would have the first female, Native American, woman of the people, totally awesome real progressive liberal carrying on and expounding upon all of Barack Obama’s great achievements. Sounds like a winner to me!!!

bimmcorp on June 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Barred on June 18, 2014 at 8:33 PM

I liked when #2 looked at #3 and said
“did you see that” WTH…
as #1 took flight… ty for sharing that..

going2mars on June 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Obama — perhaps you’ve heard this? — got bin Laden.

No, Special Ops got bin Laden. Obama, after 24 hours of dithering, gave the order to proceed.

Can you imagine what would have happened if he HAD NOT given that order?

Even the 33% of Koolaid drinking Obamabots wouldn’t forgive him for that.

As for Hillary! Any time someone brings her up, I just ask them to list her ‘accomplishments’ as Sec State.

……………………crickets………………….

GarandFan on June 18, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Just think…We would have the first female, Native American, woman of the people, totally awesome real progressive liberal carrying on and expounding upon all of Barack Obama’s great achievements. Sounds like a winner to me!!!

bimmcorp on June 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

I hope they run her.

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Yep, you’re right. They should show how their opportunities have lessened under the democratic party. There are so many areas where
Women have suffered in this economy. Women usually control the home budget. Drum into them the way prices have risen on everything. Just one of many things the R’s could use…but will they?

Barred on June 18, 2014 at 8:53 PM

I hope they run her.

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM

What difference, at this point, does it make?

bimmcorp on June 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM

The left really does not like nor want Hillary as POTUS. They DO, however, want to break that glass ceiling of having the first female elected to the office. What better way than to take the recent sympathy for the plight of the disparaged native American Indian at the hands of those bigoted Washington ‘Football Club’ cretins, and posit Liawatha Warren herself as the candidate du jour?

Just think…We would have the first female, Native American, woman of the people, totally awesome real progressive liberal carrying on and expounding upon all of Barack Obama’s great achievements. Sounds like a winner to me!!!

bimmcorp on June 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Yep. And the more gaffes Hillary makes, the more likely this becomes. Even the left hated the “dead broke” comments.

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Gaffes don’t matter much for Democrats.

What does matter is her comprehensive lack of charisma. Pair that with the general reek of failure and the Democrats have another Kerry on their hands, or likely even worse.

forest on June 18, 2014 at 8:56 PM

I hope they run her.

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM

What difference, at this point, does it make?

bimmcorp on June 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM

hikllary is dangerous because of bill’s popularity, the old hag fake indian is a bigger joke than obaME.

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:56 PM

going2mars on June 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

You’re welcome.
I know, their looks made the whole thing. It was so funny.

Barred on June 18, 2014 at 8:58 PM

The more voters get a look at Hillary in a critical environment, the less they like the woman. She is a straight up phony whose big claim to fame is that she’s married to a man who was a governor and president… and also that she was cheated on repeatedly by him.

bluegill on June 18, 2014 at 8:59 PM

like a neutron star before it goes all supernova in your faces..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 18, 2014 at 8:23 PM

…destroying the world in the process. An apt analogy from our resident genius professor.

TarasBulbous on June 18, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Barred on June 18, 2014 at 8:53 PM

The trouble is the majority of women think the Ds are better for the economy and for their own economic interests. It’s even more striking among single women.

Some women, particularly single moms, depend on government for food stamps or other benefits. The Ds promise the gravy train will never end.

The GOP needs an economic message for people like them. Otherwise, they are going to continue to be the party for old white men.

I’m a not so old female, by the way.

cat_owner on June 18, 2014 at 8:59 PM

OT Bmore did you see the eagle fly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik8hdnV1Q0Y

Barred on June 18, 2014 at 8:33 PM

How cool is that?!
I watched a baby redtail hawk take its first the other day. Don’t know who was more anxious, me or mamma.

katy the mean old lady on June 18, 2014 at 9:00 PM

If you have to ask…

John the Libertarian on June 18, 2014 at 9:00 PM

She was never qualified for any of this in the first place. She was elected senator and then appointed Secretary of State because she is Billy Boy’s wife AND he was/is a lame guy. Her own political skills are atrocious. He was a natural, she’s anything but. That she is portrayed as currently the best political candidate out there is one of the great snow jobs of our time.

dorkintheroad on June 18, 2014 at 9:01 PM

hikllary is dangerous because of bill’s popularity, the old hag fake indian is a bigger joke than obaME.

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Still does not matter. Mitt was correct. 47% , (and growing) of the folks are on the government teat. The libs can run a ham & cheese sandwich and still bet the Republicans. All they need is 4% of the dead folks and illegal aliens to add to their base, and they win.

This is all assuming that there even is an election in 2016. My hunch is that we will be under martial law at that time, and Barack will have made himself our president ‘indefinitely’. Y’all heard it here first…

bimmcorp on June 18, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Is Hillary imploding?

like a neutron star before it goes all supernova in your faces..

ThisIsWhat’sLeftOfYourBrainOnSoros on June 18, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Not terribly bright, are you?

A neutron star is the result of a collapsed star that has already gone supernova. As usual, you have it exactly back-assward.

But that’s understandable.

Neutron stars are the densest and tiniest stars known to exist in the universe

F-

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Biden – “how’s Hillary’s head”
Billyjeff – “not as good as Mon…….”

VegasRick on June 18, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Really??!?!?

Yer going there??

Major HEH!!!!!!

BigWyo on June 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM

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