Cheneys rip the “collapsing Obama doctrine”

posted at 9:21 am on June 18, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Call this the great We told you so from the neocons, written by one of the best thinkers of the group. Former VP Dick Cheney and his daughter Liz Cheney partner for a broadside against the Obama administration’s confused and drifting foreign policy, especially in regard to Iraq and Afghanistan. They write that allies in that region have asked them in dismay to explain what Obama’s strategic plan is, why he’s tossing way hard-fought gains in Iraq, and why all of a sudden he’s playing footsie with Iran:

On a trip to the Middle East this spring, we heard a constant refrain in capitals from the Persian Gulf to Israel, “Can you please explain what your president is doing?” “Why is he walking away?” “Why is he so blithely sacrificing the hard fought gains you secured in Iraq?” “Why is he abandoning your friends?” “Why is he doing deals with your enemies?”

In one Arab capital, a senior official pulled out a map of Syria and Iraq. Drawing an arc with his finger from Raqqa province in northern Syria to Anbar province in western Iraq, he said, “They will control this territory. Al Qaeda is building safe havens and training camps here. Don’t the Americans care?”

Our president doesn’t seem to. Iraq is at risk of falling to a radical Islamic terror group and Mr. Obama is talking climate change. Terrorists take control of more territory and resources than ever before in history, and he goes golfing. He seems blithely unaware, or indifferent to the fact, that a resurgent al Qaeda presents a clear and present danger to the United States of America.

When Mr. Obama and his team came into office in 2009, al Qaeda in Iraq had been largely defeated, thanks primarily to the heroic efforts of U.S. armed forces during the surge. Mr. Obama had only to negotiate an agreement to leave behind some residual American forces, training and intelligence capabilities to help secure the peace. Instead, he abandoned Iraq and we are watching American defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.

The tragedy unfolding in Iraq today is only part of the story. Al Qaeda and its affiliates are resurgent across the globe. According to a recent Rand study, between 2010 and 2013, there was a 58% increase in the number of Salafi-jihadist terror groups around the world. During that same period, the number of terrorists doubled.

In the face of this threat, Mr. Obama is busy ushering America’s adversaries into positions of power in the Middle East. First it was the Russians in Syria. Now, in a move that defies credulity, he toys with the idea of ushering Iran into Iraq. Only a fool would believe American policy in Iraq should be ceded to Iran, the world’s largest state sponsor of terror.

The impulse to ally with Iran and to essentially flip American policy on its head is a dead giveaway about Obama’s strategic thinking. It’s non-existent. American policy in this region has been entirely reactionary, a game of checkers in a region where everyone else plays three-dimensional chess. The only strategy Obama has is withdrawal, and the White House has so little preparation for the predictable outcomes of that strategy that they grasp at straws when they arise.

Hence, we have the strange sight of an American outreach to Iran to intercede in Iraq when the rest of the Sunni states in the area have aligned with the US precisely because they fear increased Iranian hegemony. We were prepared to bomb Syria with little forethought on the consequences, and now we’re lining up with the state sponsor of Hezbollah to deal with our failure in Iraq — even though Hezbollah is propping up the regime we wanted to bomb last year in Syria. It’s one reaction after another.

On the other hand, the Cheneys are likely whistling into the wind here. There hasn’t been much polling on Iraq, but the PPP poll taken over the weekend shows that the neocon policy is even less popular than Obama’s leadership at the moment. Even with the looming disaster facing Baghdad and by extension American policy, and even with the threat that ISIS represents to the region and eventually to the US directly, only 20% want American troops back in Iraq. The majority want a diplomatic “mobilization” to deal with ISIS, which as I wrote yesterday would look pretty strange, since ISIS is an unapologetic terrorist organization. The American public is as confused as the Obama administration at the moment, and Obama’s leadership will likely keep them that way … as well as everyone else in the world too, especially our allies.


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“only 20% want American troops back in Iraq.”

And yet King Putt the ignorant is sending 275 Marines in.

Have no idea what 275 troops will be able to do in a country the size of Iraq, but hey at least princess backnine is doin’ something, right?

GrassMudHorsey on June 18, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Obama’s plan is coming to fruition.

Deano1952 on June 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM

What is the Obama Doctrine?

candidates:

1. Dither then golf?
2. Dither, golf, fundraise, dither and golf?
3. Dither, golf, dither, fundraise, dither, golf, dither, fundraise, dither, dither?

ConstantineXI on June 18, 2014 at 9:27 AM

Dick Cheney giving advice on leadership in Iraq? What’s next bill Clinton giving advice on sexual harassment to women?

coolrepublica on June 18, 2014 at 9:27 AM

I think many people often are confused by 0′s leadership style. They seem to draw conclusions on him from a norm they have. This it would appear creates a scenario where they think 0 is failing or inept. I think 0 is doing exactly what he set out to do. Flawlessly.

Bmore on June 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Obama’s plan is coming to fruition.

Deano1952 on June 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama is a narcissistic malevolent incompetent.

ConstantineXI on June 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Which Obama Doctrine are we talking about?

The
“Hey, my stupid campaign promises trump national security” Doctrine.

or the

“Can’t I just eat my waffles then play 18 holes” Doctrine.

Maybe we can ask Charles Gibson.

WisRich on June 18, 2014 at 9:29 AM

3 posts today – none troll free. Have fun!

22044 on June 18, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Isn’t the Obama doctrine, “Do stupid sh!t?”

I’d say they’re living up to that.

Fallon on June 18, 2014 at 9:29 AM

But Ed, what’s the post-Katrina premise of this article? /s

frost_ on June 18, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Isn’t the Obama doctrine, “Do stupid sh!t?”

I’d say they’re living up to that.

Fallon on June 18, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Obama believes he is a genius though, rivaling Einstein, Newton, and Copernicus. In reality I detect more signs of intelligence in my housecats who have taken up a new hobby of growling at cars they see passing as they look out the window.

ConstantineXI on June 18, 2014 at 9:32 AM

He seems blithely unaware, or indifferent to the fact, that a resurgent al Qaeda presents a clear and present danger to the United States of America.

More the the point.

Midas on June 18, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Unbelievable –

I maintain that Obama is not “doing this” – I just think the man is too lazy and too ignorant to care.

jake-the-goose on June 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM

That op-ed was terrible.

Neocons better get wit it quick and realize “enemies on the march” and whatnot doesn’t play.

It’s a meaningless phrase because without the visuals of ISIS rolling through Baghdad. And it has to be Baghdad. Dust towns on outskirts of Tikrit have zero impact unless you served there.

Neocons stink at making arguments that stick. They always have, because they rely on anxiety to win debates.

budfox on June 18, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Dick Cheney giving advice on leadership in Iraq? What’s next bill Clinton giving advice on sexual harassment to women?

coolrepublica on June 18, 2014 at 9:27 AM

It is noted well that you don’t refute in the least what’s being said. Now that you’ve stipulated that Cheney’s critique is correct, if moronic comments are all you have to offer, you are invited to shut the f*ck up.

Midas on June 18, 2014 at 9:35 AM

I was always on the fence whether Zero was incompetent or malevolent…

After the last few months I leaning big-time incompetent…

PatriotRider on June 18, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Ed, might I suggest you start putting quotations around Obama’s “leadership”. For that matter, his “strategic thinking” also.

MT on June 18, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Obama threw away every tool of international diplomacy, and every lever of power that might be useful for containing these adventures. He has no basis for complaint.

And we re-elected him. It will take years to undo the misery that Obama has inflicted upon the world: butchery, enslavement and re-enslavement of women, death, and destructin all around.

The world spits on you, Mr. President.

ss396 on June 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM

They write that allies in that region have asked them in dismay to explain what Obama’s strategic plan is, why he’s tossing way hard-fought gains in Iraq, and why all of a sudden he’s playing footsie with Iran:

There’s a very simple explanation: Obama is an idiot.

AZCoyote on June 18, 2014 at 9:40 AM

The American public is as confused as the Obama administration at the moment, and Obama’s leadership will likely keep them that way … as well as everyone else in the world too, especially our allies.

The American public is confused largely because the media has refused to question this abomination of a State Department and foreign policy aids playing whack-a-mole with every new crisis.

Oh, and PPP poll clickbait.

BKeyser on June 18, 2014 at 9:41 AM

I was always on the fence whether Zero was incompetent or malevolent…

After the last few months I leaning big-time incompetent…

PatriotRider on June 18, 2014 at 9:35 AM

No need to choose. He multitasks.

fadetogray on June 18, 2014 at 9:41 AM

8. “My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. . . . I think it will go relatively quickly, . . . [in] weeks rather than months.” – Vice President Dick Cheney in a “Meet the Press” interview, Sept. 14, 2003

Why should anyone listen anything this guy has to say about Iraq?

Tom_Shipley on June 18, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Narcissists can be well-intentioned. This one is not, but rather sheltered, naive and incompetent.

MT on June 18, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Obama believes he is a genius though, rivaling Einstein, Newton, and Copernicus. In reality I detect more signs of intelligence in my housecats who have taken up a new hobby of growling at cars they see passing as they look out the window.

ConstantineXI on June 18, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Made me think of this:

Obama: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?

Valerie: Yes.

Obama: Morons.

LOL

Fallon on June 18, 2014 at 9:42 AM

The only strategy Obama has is withdrawal

Withdrawal is just secondary to his real motive. I think Obama is primarily consumed with looking good. His image. He’s going to get us completely out of Iraq and Afghanistan, bring the boys home, not because it’s a good idea, but because it makes him look good. Makes him look like he cares. Obama Cares. What a guy!

LashRambo on June 18, 2014 at 9:43 AM

And yet the same populace that don’t care about what’s going on in Iraq right now will be all up in arms after the next large scale terrorist attack wondering, “How could this happen.”

Unfortunately half of Americans are content to watch Dancing with the Stars and really couldn’t care less about some middle eastern country way over there…. and hey, Waffles agrees!

Free Indeed on June 18, 2014 at 9:43 AM

The impulse to ally with Iran and to essentially flip American policy on its head is a dead giveaway about Obama’s strategic thinking. It’s non-existent. American policy in this region has been entirely reactionary, a game of checkers in a region where everyone else plays three-dimensional chess. The only strategy Obama has is withdrawal, and the White House has so little preparation for the predictable outcomes of that strategy that they grasp at straws when they arise.

So Ed, in response to the question, “Is Barack Obama evil or stupid?” you’re going with “stupid”?

ITguy on June 18, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Neocons stink at making arguments that stick. They always have, because they rely on anxiety to win debates.

budfox on June 18, 2014 at 9:34 AM

You know what creates even more anxiety than “neocon” arguments?

Terrorist attacks like the ones that happened here on 9/11.

As one of Obama’s many released Islamic terrorists said, “see you in New York.” Probably in a couple of years.

We’ll see how much anxiety the next terror attacks here create. Hopefully, it’ll be just enough to convince idiot voters to stop electing feckless fools like Barack Hussein Obama.

AZCoyote on June 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Obama’s policies look chaotic if you are looking at them from our side. Turn it around, look at it from the other side, and everything he’s done makes perfect sense.

itsacookbook on June 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Confusion reigns and fecklessness fills the vacuum. The One’s foreign (and Domestic) policies are so bad that it naturally leads me to the cynical conclusion that, yes, it IS The One’s strategy born of his Leftest/Communist upbringing and True Believer status. His goal: Create global and domestic anarchy (tear down what is) and then rebuild the world/country into a Socialist Utopia. He’s created such a situation in Iraq that it would be pure folly to return in force. But, ‘let them stew in their own juices’ does not a President, make.

vnvet on June 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM

and now we’re lining up with the state sponsor of Hezbollah to deal with our failure in Iraq — even though Hezbollah is propping up the regime we wanted to bomb last year in Syria.

That’s all which needed to be said, start and stop the narrative on that point.

Whether it’s intentional or not, something is very very wrong up there in the WH, meanwhile our representatives in Congress sit on their thumbs and mutter empty, vapid condemnations.

Bishop on June 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM

I think “a dead giveaway about Obama’s strategic thinking” was when he recited the Islamic confession of faith in Arabic.

ITguy on June 18, 2014 at 9:47 AM

What’s next? Cutting deals with the flippin’ Taliban?

Oh wait….

We’re living in a bad cartoon.

hillbillyjim on June 18, 2014 at 9:47 AM

I was always on the fence whether Zero was incompetent or malevolent…

After the last few months I leaning big-time incompetent…

PatriotRider on June 18, 2014 at 9:35 AM

If this were a parliamentary system, elections would have been called at least by now based on a “no confidence” situation. His lack of leadership becomes more evident as time goes on.

LashRambo on June 18, 2014 at 9:48 AM

The majority want a diplomatic “mobilization” to deal with ISIS

No, Americans just want their free stuff: a unicorn in every yard, fairy dust for the children and the ability to distort reality into their liking.

el hombre on June 18, 2014 at 9:48 AM

This is truly Vietnam 2.0.

Deja vu all over again.

Johnnyreb on June 18, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Dick Cheney giving advice on leadership in Iraq? What’s next bill Clinton Hillary Clinton giving advice on sexual harassment to women?

coolrepublica on June 18, 2014 at 9:27 AM

Hillary Clinton is the War on Women!’

Fallon on June 18, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Why should anyone listen anything this guy has to say about Iraq?

Tom_Shipley on June 18, 2014 at 9:41 AM

It is noted well that you, too, don’t refute in the least what’s being said. Now that you’ve stipulated that Cheney’s critique is correct, if moronic comments are all you have to offer, you are invited to shut the f*ck up.

Midas on June 18, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Isn’t the Obama doctrine, “Do stupid sh!t?”

I’d say they’re living up to that.

Fallon on June 18, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Doesn’t that just make you feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside.

gophergirl on June 18, 2014 at 9:51 AM

The American public is confused because the President and his administration is confused. This is what happens when there is no leadership, people. Elections have consequences, remember?

ldenton1 on June 18, 2014 at 9:53 AM

On a trip to the Middle East this spring, we heard a constant refrain in capitals from the Persian Gulf to Israel, “Can you please explain what your president is doing?” “Why is he walking away?” “Why is he so blithely sacrificing the hard fought gains you secured in Iraq?” “Why is he abandoning your friends?” “Why is he doing deals with your enemies?”

In order;
1. We can, but you won’t like the explanation.
2. Because he wants the radicals to win while maintaining his rep as the “peace President”.
3. Because he thought the mission was wrong and evil to begin with, and has always wanted it to fail.
4. His “friends” are not our “friends”, and his list includes Iran but not you.
5. See (4) above.

In one Arab capital, a senior official pulled out a map of Syria and Iraq. Drawing an arc with his finger from Raqqa province in northern Syria to Anbar province in western Iraq, he said, “They will control this territory. Al Qaeda is building safe havens and training camps here. Don’t the Americans care?”

We do, but The One and his minions don’t, except insofar as they’re hoping that once al-Qaeda dominates the region, there will be a new, glorious Caliphate run on “proper” enlightened, mystical Eastern principles. It can never be over-emphasized that this is their “dream”, a civilization that rejects logic, technology, and democracy in favor of “feeling”, magical thinking, and autocracy.

The impulse to ally with Iran and to essentially flip American policy on its head is a dead giveaway about Obama’s strategic thinking. It’s non-existent. American policy in this region has been entirely reactionary, a game of checkers in a region where everyone else plays three-dimensional chess. The only strategy Obama has is withdrawal, and the White House has so little preparation for the predictable outcomes of that strategy that they grasp at straws when they arise.

Incorrect. His strategy is entirely consistent with the above assumptions. He wants the other side to win because in his mind, they represent The Good. Not because they are Islam, but because they are primitivist, anti-Western, and violently retributive. They do not merely want to wreck the West, they seek revenge for all the ills they claim it has caused since the battle of Plataea, when the Greeks had the poor manners to defeat the Persians and usher in an era of rationalism instead of “spiritual enlightenment”.

Which is precisely what The One wants, too. As do his like-minded minions. Post-modern neo-primitivists all, they yearn for a world run like ancient Persia, wit themselves as the philosopher-kings. And the power to punish everyone else for all the evils their ancestors supposedly perpetrated. Like… inventing the steam engine, for example.

This is far from an uncommon attitude on the left; it’s what the OWSers were all about at their core, seeking to rule the world according to the tenets of Critical Dance Theory.

But the Occupiers were never running the White House Situation Room. These neo-Platonist Luddites absolutely are.

The moral being, before you give someone the controls, it’s wise to make sure they aren’t determined to run you off a cliff so they can claim “a victory over evil”.

In fact, you should tell them to get their own damn car.

clear ether

eon

eon on June 18, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Only a fool would believe American policy in Iraq should be ceded to Iran, the world’s largest state sponsor of terror.

No words have been more true…

mnjg on June 18, 2014 at 9:55 AM

So Ed, in response to the question, “Is Barack Obama evil or stupid?” you’re going with “stupid”?

ITguy on June 18, 2014 at 9:44 AM

They aren’t mutually exclusive.

NotCoach on June 18, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Dick Cheney giving advice on leadership in Iraq? What’s next bill Clinton giving advice on sexual harassment to women?

coolrepublica on June 18, 2014 at 9:27 AM

What are you shilling about sockpuppet? obama was left with a stable country with a nationally elected leader and constitution voted on in a national referendum. He not only allowed but supported an uprising in Syria that brought to power, the very forces underrunning Iraq.

Additionally, under Bush and Cheney, our Armed Frces were not subjected to a Rules of Engagement policy based on polls that favored our enemy.

I’ll take Cheney any day over this idiot.

You’re dismissed. Come back when you have a clue what you’re talking about.

hawkdriver on June 18, 2014 at 9:57 AM

and overrunning …

hawkdriver on June 18, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Dick Cheney giving advice on leadership in Iraq? What’s next bill Clinton giving advice on sexual harassment to women?

coolrepublica on June 18, 2014 at 9:27 AM

I see fields and fields of burning straw men here today on Hot Air.

Johnnyreb on June 18, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Dick Cheney giving advice on leadership in Iraq? What’s next bill Clinton giving advice on sexual harassment to women?

coolrepublica on June 18, 2014 at 9:27 AM

Advice? I don’t think he was giving any advice. He was just pointing out the total ineptness of the policies of the present administration and how they’ve been total failures. If you disagree please tell us what he said that was incorrect and point out the successes The Won has achieved. I’m sure we’d all love to hear your opinions.

Oldnuke on June 18, 2014 at 10:01 AM

The American public is as confused as the Obama administration at the moment, and Obama’s leadership will likely keep them that way … as well as everyone else in the world too, especially our allies.

Our allies in the Middle East and elsewhere should just do what ever they want to protect their interest because they cannot count on this most incompetent fool Obama, a very stupid man who should not be trusted with anything…

Israel should bomb Iran nuclear facilities…

Saudi Arabia should give a highly selected and trusted group of rebels in Syria MANPADS to stop Assad air power, a defeat of Assad in Syria is a defeat for Iran and Russia… They should give the rebels in Syria enough arms to fight ISIS terrorist group which they have been already fighting since January of this year where Assad/Iran are doing nothing to ISIS in Syria…

They should do this without even consulting with Obama on this because this most incompetent fool is not worth talking to or getting his stupid opinion on anything…

mnjg on June 18, 2014 at 10:01 AM

It is all on purpose people, every bit of the clusterfark.

crosshugger on June 18, 2014 at 10:02 AM

The only strategy Obama has is withdrawal

LashRambo on June 18, 2014 at 9:43 AM

We know for sure that Obama has failed to withdraw at least twice. Then, perhaps, we don’t know it for sure…

Rix on June 18, 2014 at 10:05 AM

What will Obama do when Iran and Syria invade Saudi Arabia???

The Saudi’s are the biggest donor to ISIS.

Plus Russia could swoop in and back up the Syrians.

Putin is playing with a much larger chess set, while Obama is fiddling with checkers.

Putin knows that the Chinese will have his back and set about to collapse the US.

redguy on June 18, 2014 at 10:06 AM

The American public is as confused as the Obama administration at the moment, and Obama’s leadership will likely keep them that way … as well as everyone else in the world too, especially our allies

Let’s see how confused they are when NY is a smoking crater…Perhaps that will clarify the situation for everyone!

djl130 on June 18, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Is this guy ever going to shut up and enjoy his retirement? Every time he opens his mouth, the loony left is rewarded for their extremist views against common sense conservatism.

We don’t need old geezers from my generation yelling, I told you so.

platypus on June 18, 2014 at 10:06 AM

This is truly Vietnam 2.0.

Deja vu all over again.

Johnnyreb on June 18, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Although the visuals are strikingly similar the actuality is quite different. I don’t think the North Vietnamese had any aspirations to come to America and blow siht up and kill us after we left. These guys want to establish an Islamic Caliphate, consolidate their power and then start a world wide holy war. That means, by default, that they have to attack and destroy us. This war ain’t over by a long shot no matter what that jackwad in the White House says to the contrary.

Oldnuke on June 18, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Isn’t the Obama doctrine, “Do stupid sh!t?”

I’d say they’re living up to that.

Fallon on June 18, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Another vote for “stupid”…

So Ed, in response to the question, “Is Barack Obama evil or stupid?” you’re going with “stupid”?

ITguy on June 18, 2014 at 9:44 AM

They aren’t mutually exclusive.

NotCoach on June 18, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Indeed, they aren’t mutually exclusive.

But I’m seeing far too many people thinking it’s just “stupid” and not “evil”.

ITguy on June 18, 2014 at 10:08 AM

It is noted well that you, too, don’t refute in the least what’s being said. Now that you’ve stipulated that Cheney’s critique is correct, if moronic comments are all you have to offer, you are invited to shut the f*ck up.

To be honest, I didn’t read what Cheney said. You know why? Because of this:

“In Iraq, a ruthless dictator cultivated weapons of mass destruction and the means to deliver them. He gave support to terrorists, had an established relationship with al Qaeda, and his regime is no more.”

I see the words “Dick” and “Cheney” and know what I’m about to read is coming from a guy who has exactly ZERO credibility on Iraq. He is who we SHOULD NOT BE listening to. Why would we?

Your delusional fantasy that because I didn’t comment on what he said because I believe it is just that: a delusional fantasy (one of many you’ve constructed in your head I’m sure).

I have my own thoughts on the current situation in Iraq, none of which have been influenced by anything that Dick Cheney, a guy who any rational, self-respecting American would give ZERO credibility to when speaking about anything to do with Iraq.

So, again, I’ll ask: why would anyone listen to anything Dick Cheney has to say about Iraq?

Tom_Shipley on June 18, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Greedy corporations want the Iraqis to pump oil, but we know more oil means cheaper oil which means more carbon emissions.

So chaos in the ME is a perfectly sensible goal, if you care at all about the planet.

If freedom fighters there happen to gain more power from the chaos, then that’s an extra bonus.

- Progressive Thinking

fadetogray on June 18, 2014 at 10:11 AM

It all depends on which side you think Obama is on.

If he is supporting western and US interests then it is a failure.

If Obama is against western and US interests then he is probably quite happy how quickly he is collapsing US power, influence and increasing his Sunni Muslim interests around the world.

albill on June 18, 2014 at 10:11 AM

“…the PPP poll taken over the weekend shows that the neocon policy is even less popular than Obama’s leadership at the moment…The majority want a diplomatic “mobilization” to deal with ISIS..”

This is why we don’t ask their opinion when it comes to policy decisions. That’s just retarded.

Recon5 on June 18, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Bottom line is that those stacks of corpses have Barack Obama’s name on them. These are people who wouldn’t be dead if he hadn’t been in such a rush to wash his hands of Iraq.

I frankly don’t give a rat’s hairy hind leg if people like Dick Cheney. His points are still valid.

Murf76 on June 18, 2014 at 10:12 AM

How is this not a worldwide concern, and why is the U. N. silent?

HiJack on June 18, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Obama’s foreign policy is easy to understand. It’s just hard to accept.

The foundation of the Obama administration’s foreign policy is the premise that the United States has too much influence in the world, and that abdicating that influence is an unqualified good. Their strategy has been, whenever possible, to cede power to others with a secondary objective of making it as hard as possible for subsequent administrations to reverse the situation.

Because Obama’s understanding of how the machinery of power works is facile, he was unable to predict the probable outcomes of his actions. It is harder to give away power than our esteemed president thought it would be. Simply declining to use it doesn’t make it go away.

Still, part of power is the willingness to use it, so perception counts, and in that way the administration is advancing its objective. There are also concrete ways to diminish power, such as reduction of military capacity, dissolution of sovereignty and weakening the rule of law. Obama is doing these things as quickly as he can get away with them.

Immolate on June 18, 2014 at 10:16 AM

The majority want a diplomatic “mobilization” to deal with ISIS

WTF is that? We already have an embassy in Baghdad and diplomats there. There isn’t much more “mobilization” on the diplomatic side we can do. And as Ed points out in the post, ISIS isn’t one to negotiate anything. They want the whole country under their control. They have shown to what lengths they will go to to achieve these ends, but this administration ignores it. If Jugears let’s Baghdad fall, he needs to be removed from office.

What the US needs to do is drone strikes and fighter surgical strikes on ISIS. I think the US population can get behind at least that.

Patriot Vet on June 18, 2014 at 10:16 AM

I was once told that “leadership” is going against the polls … Which means Obama has none.
Obama just wants to be “loved.”

J_Crater on June 18, 2014 at 10:16 AM

They write that allies in that region have asked them in dismay to explain what Obama’s strategic plan is, why he’s tossing way hard-fought gains in Iraq, and why all of a sudden he’s playing footsie with Iran:

Dear Liar operates on the principle that the very foundational ideals of the United States of America are wrong “[T]he Constitution is a charter of negative liberties,” and that our enemies simply hold a different viewpoint that must be accommodated.

rbj on June 18, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Obama believes he is a genius though, rivaling Einstein, Newton, and Copernicus. In reality I detect more signs of intelligence in my housecats who have taken up a new hobby of growling at cars they see passing as they look out the window.

ConstantineXI on June 18, 2014 at 9:32 AM

This popped in my mind the moment I read your comment.

Unfortunately we have a president who has been told just how much better he is than everyone else without ever having to prove his abilities. I constantly tell my kids that it is one thing to think you are smart, the important part is proving that you are smart through your actions, showing you can make a mistake and apply the lesson(s) learned. He has done nothing to show he is anything more than a demagogue. Yes, he is smart, but not the smartest in the room and he is incredibly intellectually lazy. And that is what makes him dangerous.

TQM38a on June 18, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Ed –
Just because the Cheneys have some serious effin’ gall – it doesn’t mean you have to.
This like getting an arsonist’s opinion on the ineffectiveness of firefighters.
I know you posses a fair amount of historical literacy.
You don’t have to bend this low to find some red meat for your readers.
Just unreal.

‘one of the best thinkers most proven failures of the group’
fify

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:21 AM

It’s nice to see that Cheney still has the ability to cause liberal nutjobs to go even nuttier, lol.

xblade on June 18, 2014 at 10:31 AM

‘one of the best thinkers most proven failures of the group’
fify

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:21 AM

Who’d have thunk that philosophical underpinnings would change one’s conclusions on a matter? Those of us who supported Bush’s war in Iraq continue to see Cheney as a serious and savvy contributor to that effort.

Obama’s failing to make an easy lay-up is not a blemish on the hard work exerted to open the lane for him. Obama’s failures are his own and Cheney’s critique of Obama’s failures is spot-on. If you and your fellow haters would start holding your chosen chief executive responsible for the results of his actions, you might actually see him start to make better decisions. The problem is that you aren’t any smarter than he is, so you don’t get why his best laid plans go all Steinbeck on him.

Immolate on June 18, 2014 at 10:32 AM

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:21 AM

Poor verbalduece. Everything Cheney said was 100% accurate.

HumpBot Salvation on June 18, 2014 at 10:33 AM

All the things that are happening around the world IS the Obama Doctrine. Everything is going according to plan. I am stunned that more people question it rather than view it as it is.

When something happens the way I want it to I reward myself by doing something I really enjoy. Obama does the same thing, vacations and golf.

booter on June 18, 2014 at 10:33 AM

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:21 AM

Again, criticizing the person, instead of his arguments. You have NOTHING to say in support of Obama’s leadership?

LashRambo on June 18, 2014 at 10:35 AM

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:21 AM

Poor verbalduece. Everything Cheney said was 100% accurate.

HumpBot Salvation on June 18, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Um, like this:

“I think it will go relatively quickly. Weeks rather than months.” (March, 2003)
“My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.” (March, 2003)
I think they’re in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency.” (July, 2005)

Poor you.

Yep..Ed’s ‘best thinker’…thinking things.
He has NO credibility. I bet his daughter is/was the only one willing to byline this with him.
Whatever Obama and his policies has failed to fix here, it’s not what he broke.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Klingons.

Revenge.

You know the drill.

formwiz on June 18, 2014 at 10:42 AM

you dummies still give this proven idiot the time of day, eh?

bizarre.

everdiso on June 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM

You have NOTHING to say in support of Obama’s leadership?

LashRambo on June 18, 2014 at 10:35 AM

When a doctor fails to save the life of a gunshot victim…is that death the fault of the doctor? By your reasoning, yes.
Now, maybe in hindsight the doctor could’ve tried a different approach…sure. But the patient likely still would’ve died.
It was a bad wound.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM

All the things that are happening around the world IS the Obama Doctrine. Everything is going according to plan. I am stunned that more people question it rather than view it as it is.

wait a sec – do you think there’s actually more of these “things happening around the world” now than there were before obama?

everdiso on June 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM

Whatever Obama and his policies has failed to fix here, it’s not what he broke.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:42 AM

And therein lies Obama’s (and your) problem. You must take responsibility for a situation to be empowered to fix it. The Obama administration and their supporters remain too stuck on fixing blame to someone (anyone) else to risk the bold steps required to make a difference. As a result, they will be remembered as an ineffective and inconsequential presidency. The good news is that they are setting up the next president for an epic spike over the net, re: Carter/Reagan.

Immolate on June 18, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Obama’s failing to make an easy lay-up is not a blemish on the hard work exerted to open the lane for him.

Immolate on June 18, 2014 at 10:32 AM

Wow.
Now that is some philosophical underpinning.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:51 AM

When a doctor fails to save the life of a gunshot victim…is that death the fault of the doctor? By your reasoning, yes.
Now, maybe in hindsight the doctor could’ve tried a different approach…sure. But the patient likely still would’ve died.
It was a bad wound.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM

Doctor Dog Eater came in, took a look at the victim, pulled a .44 Magnum, and shot 6 ragged holes in him.

“Feel better now? You’re welcome.” Doctor Dog Eater proclaimed.

Bishop on June 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM

The Obama administration and their supporters remain too stuck on fixing blame to someone (anyone) else…

Immolate on June 18, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Are you just trying some rubber/glue argument here.
And you take issue with someone fixing blame on ‘someone (anyone) else’…in defense of Dick Cheney?
Yours ain’t no easy lay-up.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM

The Obama administration and their supporters remain too stuck on fixing blame to someone (anyone) else to risk the bold steps required to make a difference. As a result, they will be remembered as an ineffective and inconsequential presidency.

Yep, ineffective and inconsequential…..aside from totally revamping the direction of our foreign policy, creating the biggest overhaul in health care history, pioneering gay and women’s rights, the biggest energy boom in US history, pioneering environmental research and regulation….and oh yeah, rebounding the US economy out of the economic disaster better than most every economy on earth.

Aside from those piddling things, it’ll be ineffective and inconsequential because……BENGHAZI BENGHAZI BEMGHAZI!!!!

everdiso on June 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Halliburton!

Tom_Shipley on June 18, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Halliburton!

verbaloon on June 18, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Halliburton!

lester, it’s time for your violin lesson! on June 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM

March 3, 2007:

Billionaire George Soros has quietly invested $62 million in the purchase of more than 2 million shares of Halliburton, the major government contractor criticized by his own Open Society Institute and the activist group he funds, MoveOn.org.

The holdings were disclosed in a quarterly filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission by Soros Fund Management LLC.

Vice President Cheney is the former CEO of Halliburton.

…another outspoken leftist who had criticized Halliburton was discovered to own stock in the company – filmmaker Michael Moore.

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Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM

The Obama administration and their supporters remain too stuck on fixing blame to someone (anyone) else to risk the bold steps required to make a difference. As a result, they will be remembered as an ineffective and inconsequential presidency.

Yep.

Bmore on June 18, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Halliburton!

Tom_Shipley on June 18, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Halliburton!

verbaloon on June 18, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Halliburton!

lester, it’s time for your violin lesson! on June 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM

I have nothing!
– Del

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:59 AM

Neocons better get wit it quick and realize “enemies on the march” and whatnot doesn’t play.

It’s a meaningless phrase because without the visuals of ISIS rolling through Baghdad. And it has to be Baghdad. Dust towns on outskirts of Tikrit have zero impact unless you served there.

budfox on June 18, 2014 at 9:34 AM

So these stone age savages who fly aircraft full of people into buildings full of people and force secretaries to decide whether they want to end their lives by jumping off a 110 story building or be incinerated at their desks aren’t a sufficient enough threat to get Americans to turn off “Keeping Up With the Kardashians”. We have become that decadent.

V7_Sport on June 18, 2014 at 11:01 AM

American policy in this region has been entirely reactionary, a game of checkers in a region where everyone else plays three-dimensional chess.

The game to play is Risk.

The strategic play would be for the U.S. to ally with the Kurds in Iraq, the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan. Wait it out while the religious and tribal factions grind each other down.

MichaelGabriel on June 18, 2014 at 11:02 AM

wait a sec – do you think there’s actually more of these “things happening around the world” now than there were before obama?

lester, it’s time for your violin lesson! on June 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM

Of course there are, Cultist. Here’s proof from the Far-Right CNN:

Washington (CNN) – As terrorism increasingly becomes a tactic of warfare, the number of attacks and fatalities soared to a record high in 2012, according to a new report obtained exclusively by CNN.

More than 8,500 terrorist attacks killed nearly 15,500 people last year as violence tore through Africa, Asia and the Middle East, according to the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism.

That’s a 69% rise in attacks and an 89% jump in fatalities from 2011, said START, one of the world’s leading terrorism-trackers.

Six of the seven most deadly groups are affiliated with al Qaeda, according to START, and most of the violence was committed in Muslim-majority countries.

The previous record for attacks was set in 2011 with more than 5,000 incidents; for fatalities the previous high was 2007 with more than 12,800 deaths.

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Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 11:02 AM

It’s nice to see that Cheney still has the ability to cause liberal nutjobs to go even nuttier, lol.

xblade on June 18, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Cheney still have that secret oil pipeline across Astan?

Bishop on June 18, 2014 at 11:03 AM

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM

I have nothing!
– Del

verbaloon on June 18, 2014 at 10:59 AM

Choke on my 11:02 AM post.

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Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 11:03 AM

You have NOTHING to say in support of Obama’s leadership?
 
LashRambo on June 18, 2014 at 10:35 AM

 
When a doctor fails to save the life of a gunshot victim…is that death the fault of the doctor? By your reasoning, yes.
Now, maybe in hindsight the doctor could’ve tried a different approach…sure. But the patient likely still would’ve died.
It was a bad wound.
 
verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM

 
That doctor saved the gunshot victim in 2011.
 

President Obama travels to Fort Bragg to mark the exit of the last American troops from Iraq, officially ending nearly nine years of war there and leaving Iraq future in the hands of its people.
 
http://www.whitehouse.gov/iraq

 
“Promise Kept”

rogerb on June 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM

Now, maybe in hindsight the doctor could’ve tried a different approach…sure. But the patient likely still would’ve died.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM

All this POS had to do was negotiate a SOFA agreement. Instead, he ignored the recommendations of his generals on troop levels and didn’t lift a finger to move the Iraqis any closer to giving immunity to our Military. (As was done in Germany, Japan, South Korea, etc.)
He deliberately snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory so he could hang it around Bush’s neck. He has no problem in s#!tting on the sacrifices of our Soldiers, Marines, Airmen and Sailors and no problem s#!tting on them by denying them care when they get home. Obama is subhuman garbage.

V7_Sport on June 18, 2014 at 11:09 AM

I think I’ve figured out what the White House gang’s “doctrine” is. They are totally focused on creating a marxist dictatorship so when anything happens they approach it as something that can be used to accomplish their goals. They just have to figure out how. If you look at it this way the things they do make perfect sense.

crankyoldlady on June 18, 2014 at 11:13 AM

My daughter was a prison guard for 15 months in northern Iraq. Prisoners she was guarding thanked her personally for being there, in Iraq.

Tom Sh*tly and verbaldouche need new talking points.

John Hitchcock on June 18, 2014 at 11:17 AM

aside from totally revamping the direction of our foreign policy, creating the biggest overhaul in health care history, pioneering gay and women’s rights, the biggest energy boom in US history, pioneering environmental research and regulation…
everdiso on June 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM

So your point is that The Won is effectual and consequential when it comes to destroying the very fabric that made America great? Agreed!!

Deano1952 on June 18, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Yep, ineffective and inconsequential…..aside from totally revamping the direction of our foreign policy

lester, it’s time for your violin lesson! on June 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Washington (CNN) – As terrorism increasingly becomes a tactic of warfare, the number of attacks and fatalities soared to a record high in 2012, according to a new report obtained exclusively by CNN.

More than 8,500 terrorist attacks killed nearly 15,500 people last year as violence tore through Africa, Asia and the Middle East, according to the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism.

That’s a 69% rise in attacks and an 89% jump in fatalities from 2011, said START, one of the world’s leading terrorism-trackers.

Six of the seven most deadly groups are affiliated with al Qaeda, according to START, and most of the violence was committed in Muslim-majority countries.

The previous record for attacks was set in 2011 with more than 5,000 incidents; for fatalities the previous high was 2007 with more than 12,800 deaths.

O’bama Has Touted Al Qaeda’s Demise 32 Times since Benghazi Attack

President Barack Obama has described al Qaeda as having been “decimated,” “on the path to defeat” or some other variation at least 32 times since the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, according to White House transcripts.

-snip-

Recently, on Nov. 1 in Green Bay, Wis., Obama said, “Thanks to sacrifice and service of our brave men and women in uniform, the war in Iraq is over, the war in Afghanistan is winding down, al Qaeda has been decimated, Osama bin Laden is dead.”

-snip-

One day after the Benghazi attack that occurred on the 11th anniversary of 9/11, Obama spoke at a campaign event in Las Vegas on Sept. 12.

“A day after 9/11, we are reminded that a new tower rises above the New York skyline, but al Qaeda is on the path to defeat and bin Laden is dead,” Obama said in Las Vegas.

On Sept. 13 in Golden, Colo., Obama said, “Four years ago, I promised to end the war in Iraq — and we did. I said we’d wind down the war in Afghanistan — and we are. And while a new tower rises above the New York skyline, al Qaeda is on the path to defeat, and Osama bin Laden is dead.” He repeated that line again on Sept. 17 in Cincinnati and again that day in Columbus, Ohio.

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Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 11:18 AM

So Cheney points out the obvious, big deal. This was entirely foreseeable back in 2003 and if Cheney and co. had done a better job during their war the odds of this happening would have been less despite Obummer’s incompetence.

Just because a bunch of people got to vote and get purple thumbs doesn’t mean it was stable country. Shia vs Sunni (and the Kurds), making the Hatfield’s and McCoy’s look like a bump in the road. Obviously funding terrorists in Syria/Libya doesn’t help either. Thanks Obummer.

oryguncon on June 18, 2014 at 11:25 AM

So, if your POTUS openly touts that he is a Traitor, do we believe him or our own lying eyes?

He’s got to be stopped. Someone has to take the reins from ValJar… STAT.

Key West Reader on June 18, 2014 at 11:25 AM

All this POS had to do was negotiate a SOFA agreement. Instead, he ignored the recommendations of his generals on troop levels and didn’t lift a finger to move the Iraqis any closer to giving immunity to our Military.

V7_Sport on June 18, 2014 at 11:09 AM

They refused to give that immunity – and he couldn’t force the hand of a sovereign nation.
Maybe he should’ve invaded?
What did he have to lose except for the lives of American troops…right?
/

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Choke on my 11:02 AM post.

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Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 11:03 AM

Sip & spit all of my comments…none of which mention Halliburton.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM

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