Cheneys rip the “collapsing Obama doctrine”

posted at 9:21 am on June 18, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Call this the great We told you so from the neocons, written by one of the best thinkers of the group. Former VP Dick Cheney and his daughter Liz Cheney partner for a broadside against the Obama administration’s confused and drifting foreign policy, especially in regard to Iraq and Afghanistan. They write that allies in that region have asked them in dismay to explain what Obama’s strategic plan is, why he’s tossing way hard-fought gains in Iraq, and why all of a sudden he’s playing footsie with Iran:

On a trip to the Middle East this spring, we heard a constant refrain in capitals from the Persian Gulf to Israel, “Can you please explain what your president is doing?” “Why is he walking away?” “Why is he so blithely sacrificing the hard fought gains you secured in Iraq?” “Why is he abandoning your friends?” “Why is he doing deals with your enemies?”

In one Arab capital, a senior official pulled out a map of Syria and Iraq. Drawing an arc with his finger from Raqqa province in northern Syria to Anbar province in western Iraq, he said, “They will control this territory. Al Qaeda is building safe havens and training camps here. Don’t the Americans care?”

Our president doesn’t seem to. Iraq is at risk of falling to a radical Islamic terror group and Mr. Obama is talking climate change. Terrorists take control of more territory and resources than ever before in history, and he goes golfing. He seems blithely unaware, or indifferent to the fact, that a resurgent al Qaeda presents a clear and present danger to the United States of America.

When Mr. Obama and his team came into office in 2009, al Qaeda in Iraq had been largely defeated, thanks primarily to the heroic efforts of U.S. armed forces during the surge. Mr. Obama had only to negotiate an agreement to leave behind some residual American forces, training and intelligence capabilities to help secure the peace. Instead, he abandoned Iraq and we are watching American defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.

The tragedy unfolding in Iraq today is only part of the story. Al Qaeda and its affiliates are resurgent across the globe. According to a recent Rand study, between 2010 and 2013, there was a 58% increase in the number of Salafi-jihadist terror groups around the world. During that same period, the number of terrorists doubled.

In the face of this threat, Mr. Obama is busy ushering America’s adversaries into positions of power in the Middle East. First it was the Russians in Syria. Now, in a move that defies credulity, he toys with the idea of ushering Iran into Iraq. Only a fool would believe American policy in Iraq should be ceded to Iran, the world’s largest state sponsor of terror.

The impulse to ally with Iran and to essentially flip American policy on its head is a dead giveaway about Obama’s strategic thinking. It’s non-existent. American policy in this region has been entirely reactionary, a game of checkers in a region where everyone else plays three-dimensional chess. The only strategy Obama has is withdrawal, and the White House has so little preparation for the predictable outcomes of that strategy that they grasp at straws when they arise.

Hence, we have the strange sight of an American outreach to Iran to intercede in Iraq when the rest of the Sunni states in the area have aligned with the US precisely because they fear increased Iranian hegemony. We were prepared to bomb Syria with little forethought on the consequences, and now we’re lining up with the state sponsor of Hezbollah to deal with our failure in Iraq — even though Hezbollah is propping up the regime we wanted to bomb last year in Syria. It’s one reaction after another.

On the other hand, the Cheneys are likely whistling into the wind here. There hasn’t been much polling on Iraq, but the PPP poll taken over the weekend shows that the neocon policy is even less popular than Obama’s leadership at the moment. Even with the looming disaster facing Baghdad and by extension American policy, and even with the threat that ISIS represents to the region and eventually to the US directly, only 20% want American troops back in Iraq. The majority want a diplomatic “mobilization” to deal with ISIS, which as I wrote yesterday would look pretty strange, since ISIS is an unapologetic terrorist organization. The American public is as confused as the Obama administration at the moment, and Obama’s leadership will likely keep them that way … as well as everyone else in the world too, especially our allies.


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“Love My Rifle More Than You” was written by a Liberal female who spent time in the US Army and in Iraq. I read the book. The Leftists on this site should read it, too.

John Hitchcock on June 18, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Choke on my 11:02 AM post.

F-

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 11:03 AM

I’ve got nothing.

verbaloon on June 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM

A senior VP of Halliburton was a major O’bama donor in 2008 and again in 2012.

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Nice of Dick to come out and provide advice on how to fix the mess he made.

lexhamfox on June 18, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Um, like this:

“I think it will go relatively quickly. Weeks rather than months.” (March, 2003)
“My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.” (March, 2003)
I think they’re in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency.” (July, 2005)

Poor you.

Yep..Ed’s ‘best thinker’…thinking things.
He has NO credibility. I bet his daughter is/was the only one willing to byline this with him.
Whatever Obama and his policies has failed to fix here, it’s not what he broke.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Let’s see fukktard.

“I think it will go relatively quickly. Weeks rather than months.” (March, 2003)

The defeat of the Iraq army took 21 days. That’s the context of the quote. But you idiots are good at twisting things to fit your narrative aren’t you.

“My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.” (March, 2003)

We were greeted as liberators by the Iraqi people. Are you really that fukking stupid that terrorist would greet the coalition forces with roses?

I think they’re in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency.” (July, 2005)

meh, I’ll spot you this one.

Whatever Obama and his policies has failed to fix here, it’s not what he broke.

LOL, You truly are a pathetic little gimp. obama broke it and he refuses to fix it.

Poor you.

HumpBot Salvation on June 18, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Nice of Dick to come out and provide advice on how to fix the mess he made.

lexhamfox on June 18, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Cheney isn’t the prophet mohammad (pb&j). If he were you would probably be finding some way to blame someone else for 1400 years of savagery.

V7_Sport on June 18, 2014 at 11:43 AM

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 11:28 AM

They refused to give that immunity – and he couldn’t force the hand of a sovereign nation.

That’s a joke, right? You are trying to be funny there. We force the hands of sovereign nations, literally, on a daily basis. Tie the aid to the SOFA, done.

Maybe he should’ve invaded?

We are in a world wide war against islamist terrorism, ignoring it wont make them go away. They haven’t gone away for 1400 years. Handing them the wealth of an oil producing state is phenomenally stupid. affirmative action messiah has done.

What did he have to lose except for the lives of American troops…right?

Do you really expect me to believe that you give a damn about US troops? The same people who are sneered at as chumps and suckers by this administration as they die agony from colorectal cancer on waiting lists because giving them access to pain medication would jeopardize some administrative bonuses?
Don’t worry, no one is going to ask you to do your part.

V7_Sport on June 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Obama’s “foreign policy” is very simple. He wets his finger and sticks it in the air.

GarandFan on June 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Obama’s “foreign policy” is very simple. He wets his finger and sticks it in the air.

GarandFan on June 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

eh, that’s not his ear.

And probably not even his finger.

HumpBot Salvation on June 18, 2014 at 12:09 PM

V7_Sport on June 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM

That’s a joke, right? You are trying to be funny there. We force the hands of sovereign nations, literally, on a daily basis. Tie the aid to the SOFA, done.

Oh, listen to the tough talk. Maybe you could’ve made them do it.

We are in a world wide war against islamist terrorism, ignoring it wont make them go away. They haven’t gone away for 1400 years. Handing them the wealth of an oil producing state is phenomenally stupid. affirmative action messiah has done.

Your narrative conveniently ignores about 1392 years of history.
And you seem to have slept through the 1384 to 1392 part.

Do you really expect me to believe that you give a damn about US troops?

I’m thinking you mostly believe b.s., so I won’t expect that of you.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 12:36 PM

A senior VP of Halliburton was a major O’bama donor in 2008 and again in 2012.

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Um…ok.
Did you miss that I didn’t bring up Halliburton?

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM

HumpBot Salvation on June 18, 2014 at 11:42 AM

I think you’ve been in the last throes for a very long time.

Any summer plans?
Mine are sailing and fishing. And fishing.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Interesting that polling firms are not asking americans if they think al qaeda should have a base in the middle east that allows them to control trillions of dollars of oil to finance attacks against america. For 9/11 all they needed were a few training camps with not nearly the amount of money in afghanistan that they can gain in iraq.

philrat on June 18, 2014 at 12:50 PM

I think you’ve been in the last throes for a very long time.

Any summer plans?
Mine are sailing and fishing. And fishing.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Yawn, your inability to think is well documented in the pages of HotAir….so I really don’t give a flying fukk…what you “think”. You provide comedic relief and that’s about it.

The facts are…your boy fukked up Iraq and soon Afghanistan. And yet you defend him. Poor you. No moral compass.

HumpBot Salvation on June 18, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Poor you. No moral compass.

The same can be said of every last person in the Democrat leadership, their shills, half the Republican leadership, their shills.

At least logorrheadouche has a lot of company.

John Hitchcock on June 18, 2014 at 1:11 PM

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Oh, listen to the tough talk. Maybe you could’ve made them do it.

“Made them do it”..As we did in every country we have military bases in…like we “made” Italy for instance, or Poland… Obama didn’t want a SOFA. That’s why there isn’t one, that’s the only reason there isn’t one.

We are in a world wide war against islamist terrorism, ignoring it wont make them go away. They haven’t gone away for 1400 years. Handing them the wealth of an oil producing state is phenomenally stupid. affirmative action messiah has done.

Your narrative conveniently ignores about 1392 years of history.
And you seem to have slept through the 1384 to 1392 part.

??? Umm… No. They have been savage animals since mohammad handed them a theology that insists that they behave like savage animals to get to paradise.

Do you really expect me to believe that you give a damn about US troops?

I’m thinking you mostly believe b.s., so I won’t expect that of you.

Seeing as you haven’t presented a counterargument for anything I’ve written, perhaps you need to examine the BS that you wallow in.

V7_Sport on June 18, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Yep, ineffective and inconsequential…..aside from totally revamping the direction of our foreign policy, creating the biggest overhaul in health care history, pioneering gay and women’s rights, the biggest energy boom in US history, pioneering environmental research and regulation….and oh yeah, rebounding the US economy out of the economic disaster better than most every economy on earth.

Aside from those piddling things, it’ll be ineffective and inconsequential because……BENGHAZI BENGHAZI BEMGHAZI!!!!

everdiso on June 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Hilarious! Do you write for ‘The Onion’?

tanked59 on June 18, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Any summer plans?
Mine are sailing and fishing. And fishing.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Good luck on your fishing. Trolling I presume.

Don’t stray to far from shore. Those without a compass tend to get lost. We don’t need to spend any more taxpayer $ on you.

HumpBot Salvation on June 18, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Treason doth never prosper: What’s the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.

—Sir John Harrington, Epigrams, Book IV, Epigram V.

Dime IV on June 18, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Yep, ineffective and inconsequential…..aside from totally revamping the direction of our foreign policy,

Unmitigated disaster…

creating the biggest overhaul in health care history,

AKA destruction of the world’s best system…

pioneering gay and women’s rights,

AKA undermining the notion that everyone is created equal – now some are more equal than others – congrats…

the biggest energy boom in US history,

You know, despite Obama’s constant efforts to squash it – it’s happening *in spite* of him, not because of him…

pioneering environmental research and regulation

You’re simply making shit up at this point – well, actually you *started* by making shit up, but this is just… well… causing the drought in the western US, strangling the economy – oh, and on that note…

oh yeah, rebounding the US economy out of the economic disaster better than most every economy on earth.

Aside from those piddling things, it’ll be ineffective and inconsequential because……BENGHAZI BENGHAZI BEMGHAZI!!!!

everdiso on June 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Midas on June 18, 2014 at 2:18 PM

LOL, everdiso, you’re hilarious.

Midas on June 18, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Any summer plans?
Mine are sailing and fishing. And fishing.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Good luck on your fishing. Trolling I presume.

HumpBot Salvation on June 18, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Good one, Humps!

No…I cast from shore.
Usually work a bunch of lures while another rig is hooked up with some bait.
(I’m sure there’s a metaphor there somewhere, but I really am just talking about fishing.)

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Usually work a bunch of lures while another rig is hooked up with some bait.
(I’m sure there’s a metaphor there somewhere, but I really am just talking about fishing.)

So… You admit to fishing without bait and depending on someone else to baitcast for you? And you say you’re only talking about fishing? Not sure I’m buying the second part. The first part, yeah, but that second part, the jury’s still out.

John Hitchcock on June 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Good one, Humps!

No…I cast from shore.
Usually work a bunch of lures while another rig is hooked up with some bait.
(I’m sure there’s a metaphor there somewhere, but I really am just talking about fishing.)

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 2:20 PM

All internet fussing aside, Good luck fishing.

It’s a hobby of mine as well.

HumpBot Salvation on June 18, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Usually work a bunch of lures while another rig is hooked up with some bait.
(I’m sure there’s a metaphor there somewhere, but I really am just talking about fishing.)

So… You admit to fishing without bait and depending on someone else to baitcast for you? And you say you’re only talking about fishing? Not sure I’m buying the second part. The first part, yeah, but that second part, the jury’s still out.

John Hitchcock on June 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Huh?
No..one rod has a lure.
I cast and work that one.
The bait rig just sits on it’s own. I just have the pole jammed into some rocks or just laying loose.
Stripers won’t be too big ’til August.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 3:06 PM

All internet fussing aside, Good luck fishing.

It’s a hobby of mine as well.

HumpBot Salvation on June 18, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Thanks.
Did some fresh water last week and got some nice trout.
(And my daughter caught her first! THAT is a moment.)
Can hardly wait to get to the shore.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 3:08 PM

A senior VP of Halliburton was a major O’bama donor in 2008 and again in 2012.

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Um…ok.

Did you miss that I didn’t bring up Halliburton?

verbaloon on June 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Funny how that H-Word immediately became toxic to you Leftists after Soros and Mikey Moore bought into the company and since so many Halliburton employees donated to Dear Leader.

That’s why you had to invent the Koch Brothers to become your new Villains, despite the fact that 58 other evil corporations give more money to political causes than they do.

BTW, why are you criticizing the co-author? She had absolutely nothing to do with Iraq. Isn’t that a War on Women offense?

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Good luck on your fishing. Trolling I presume.

HumpBot Salvation on June 18, 2014 at 2:11 PM

I assume Lucy will be fishing for suckers.

slickwillie2001 on June 18, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Interesting that polling firms are not asking americans if they think al qaeda should have a base in the middle east that allows them to control trillions of dollars of oil to finance attacks against america. For 9/11 all they needed were a few training camps with not nearly the amount of money in afghanistan that they can gain in iraq.

philrat on June 18, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Nice fantasy…just not militarily possible.

(1) Al Qaeda, or ISIS, or what ever the Sunni jihadist group of the moment, is not competent enough to get the oil out of the ground and therefore need infidel help. Problem is they have a nasty habit of beheading infidels so therefore no infidels will help them, including China.

(2) In order to get the oil to the ports they will have to control everything along the way, including a port. That should be interesting considering Iranians/Shia Arabs are still in control of the south of Iraq.

(3) It appears the Turks and Kurds have their own plans in the north so good luck on that.

(4) In order to make a oil economy work you need stability, people not blowing up your oil facilities and pipelines, and you must control the fields all the time.

So in conclusion…no Al Qaeda, or anyone else for that matter, with the exception of a Kurdish/Turkish alliance is going to be able to get the oil out of the ground, to port, and to market for a long time. Just not enough stability and intelligent folks in that part of the world.

William Eaton on June 18, 2014 at 4:40 PM

…Why is he abandoning your friends?” “Why is he doing deals with your enemies?”

Because he is one of them. He is an enemy of our country.

rlwo2008 on June 18, 2014 at 5:07 PM

The impulse to ally with Iran and to essentially flip American policy on its head is a dead giveaway about Obama’s strategic thinking. It’s non-existent. American policy in this region has been entirely reactionary, a game of checkers in a region where everyone else plays three-dimensional chess.

Wow, no different than the complaints about US policy in Ukraine; poor Obama, outplayed by Putin’s chess game. Reality check- just as Putin has been improvising after his country’s disastrous loss of Ukraine’s heart and soul to pro-Western leaders, ‘strategic’ thinking in the Middle East as a path to continued US dominance is just a pipe dream.

There’s no way for the US to control the outcome in Iraq outside of deep and continued military involvement. It’s truly amazing that so many on the right continue to hold fast to their dreams of ‘planning’ the future of the Iraqi nation. It was a fantasy under Bush and it’s a fantasy today.

bayam on June 18, 2014 at 5:07 PM

The impulse to ally with Iran and to essentially flip American policy on its head is a dead giveaway about Obama’s strategic thinking. It’s non-existent. American policy in this region has been entirely reactionary, a game of checkers in a region where everyone else plays three-dimensional chess.

He needs to put away his SimCity4 disk.

BobMbx on June 18, 2014 at 5:51 PM

EVERdisco,,,, What was that 8 year PASS that you said Bush got? I don’t remember any PASS and all I can recall is that the media had an 8 yr onslaught on Bush. I must have been in a different country than you. I do recall and still recalling that this Obama has been on a PASS since he was born.

garydt on June 18, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Without Cheney, there is no Obama.

Always keep that in mind when this neo-con speaks.
His debacle in Iraq made the white house path all too easy for Obama

weedisgood on June 18, 2014 at 6:21 PM

is a dead giveaway about Obama’s strategic thinking. It’s non-existent.

Unless, his “strategic thinking” is aimed at taking down the America he so loathes?

Don L on June 18, 2014 at 6:31 PM

Both Bush/Cheney and Obama make having no middle eastern foriegn policy at all seem very attractive.

VorDaj on June 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM

On a trip to the Middle East this spring, we heard a constant refrain in capitals from the Persian Gulf to Israel, “Can you please explain what your president is doing?” “Why is he walking away?” “Why is he so blithely sacrificing the hard fought gains you secured in Iraq?” “Why is he abandoning your friends?” “Why is he doing deals with your enemies?”

I’m thinking this is a setup. I don’t see why foreigners who care that much about American policy would actually think the Cheney’s have any insight into Odinga’s policy.

How long until these two write a (another) book? I’m kinda surprised they don’t have one already but maybe Liz has been too busy with not running for senator back in her home state where she never lived, Wyoming.

Toocon on June 18, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Why would Cheney do this?

Please stay out of the limelight Cheney

You add more fodder to the media and Dems who despise you and the sheep believe them

Redford on June 18, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Did some fresh water last week and got some nice trout.
(And my daughter caught her first! THAT is a moment.)
Can hardly wait to get to the shore.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 3:08 PM

That is a HUGE moment and I hope you have pictures.
Btw, bluegill makes a damn fine bait.

katy the mean old lady on June 18, 2014 at 8:12 PM

No..one rod has a lure.
I cast and work that one.
The bait rig just sits on it’s own. I just have the pole jammed into some rocks or just laying loose.
Stripers won’t be too big ’til August.

verbaluce on June 18, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Well there’s your problem….quit using your rod as a lure and casting it around, and for heaven’s sake quit jamming your pole into some rocks. No wonder you can’t catch any fish.

msupertas on June 18, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Love him or hate him, at least this was a time when the USA wore pants…we’ve been wearing a pink tutu since 2008.

msupertas on June 18, 2014 at 11:15 PM

How long until these two write a (another) book? I’m kinda surprised they don’t have one already but maybe Liz has been too busy with not running for senator back in her home state where she never lived, Wyoming.

Toocon on June 18, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Smells like Open Reg Teen Spirit in here.

Tell us again why the Democrat Pants you will happily vote for in 2016 moved to a state she had never lived in just so she could carpetbag and be erected to the Senate.

Dismissed-

Del Dolemonte on June 19, 2014 at 12:10 AM

Cheney’s are terrific!!

georgealbert on June 19, 2014 at 7:00 AM

So why does the author call the Cheneys “neocons?” Doesn’t that suggest they’re former liberals?

Olo_Burrows on June 19, 2014 at 7:35 AM

Considering Obama’s Policy is “Don’t do stupid Shi’ite”, that policy failed YEARS ago!

easyt65 on June 19, 2014 at 8:23 AM

One thing is certain like death and taxes.

Republicans win when foreign policy is the issue and Democrats win when domestic policy is issue.

bumsteaddithers on June 19, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Why would Cheney and his daughter write this?

A couple of reasons. First, there probably ARE people in the Middle East (the Al-Saud, the Hashemites, and General al-Sisi, I suspect) who look at the United States as a ship without a firm hand at the tiller right now. In their minds, a strong US is needed to balance Russian and Chinese ambitions.

Increasing American oil independence makes this problematic, no matter who the President is.

Secondly, Dads had Liz sign on to help her rebuild her credibility after being humbled by Enzi, to the point where she had to withdraw.

victor82 on June 19, 2014 at 10:24 AM

Cheneys rip the “collapsing Obama doctrine”

What doctrine? The one defined by Obama’s staff? He’s too busy playing golf to have…you know…a doctrine.

zoyclem on June 19, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Most of the population believes what they have been told. Hell, the US was widely isolationist prior to our entry into WWII – which is the basis on which some conspiracy theorists have suggested FDR let Pearl Harbor get bombed. It moved the public’s attitude real quick.

On this one, Obama wanted out and the public wanted out. Unfortunately, the public wouldn’t have cared whether we stationed a base there or not. They don’t pay enough attention to it. Obama though felt a SOFA with real teeth would betray his political promise – so he did nothing to get it done. Bush had done the hard work to win Iraq twice, whether you feel we should have been there or not. That is a fact. Obama willingly lost the peace for essentially nothing.

In the Ukraine, he had the ability to constrain the Russian grab to just the Crimea – but he dawdled, made silly public pronouncements , and essentially allowed Putin to think he wouldn’t lift a finger. The extended civil war in Ukraine he could have stopped. Without firing a shot. But he chose not to.

You can maintain that is a good thing or not. I tend to think both of these situations are bad things that are bad for us. And it would appear that slowly that is starting to sink in. The problem with polling based leadership, is that the people will move before the pollsters can tell you.

Obama screwed up royally. He is torpedoing the Senate and reducing the GOP’s problems with 2016. Hillary is doing the rest because while she was at State – supposedly agreeing with the Obama foreign policy – what she left has sowed the seeds for her not having any outs. Her campaign is imploding as we speak – the dems don’t have another candidate for 2016 yet.

SO this is Obama’s fault – a direct result of policy considerations he made based upon the issues he faced while in office.

Zomcon JEM on June 19, 2014 at 11:39 AM

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