Can’t get enough MSNBC? Get ready for MSNBC2

posted at 1:01 pm on June 18, 2014 by Noah Rothman

For those MSNBC viewers that simply cannot get all the MSNBC they would like, the cable news network is experimenting with an online network which will feature MSNBC’s current personalities engaging with regular guests, but without the constraints imposed on content by advertising breaks.

Similar to Fox News and CNN’s web-based programming, MSNBC’s inaugural show featured personalities who are already familiar to the network’s regular audience. The inaugural program, broadcast live, featured MSNBC’s The Cycle co-host Krystal Ball hosting a panel talk show dubbed Krystal Clear.

In a pilot episode of a web-only show, Krystal Ball breaks down the crisis in Iraq with Ayman Mohyledin and Lt. Col. Michael Kay; talks about Hillary Clinton’s “Hard Choices” with “book friends” New York Times’ Nick Confessore and Policy Mic’s Elizabeth Plank.

The panel guests who joined Ball to discuss Clinton’s ongoing book tour examined the gender bias that will plague her likely presidential campaign and defended her wealth, while expressing concerns over whether the Clinton family’s stature will prevent the former secretary of state from being able to relate to average voters.

In a final segment, Ball delivered a monologue rehashing the themes which motivated the short-lived Occupy Wall Street protest movement and mocked Goldman Sachs Group CEO Lloyd Blankfein for being late to the club by only recognizing the scourge of “income inequality” recently.

Ball’s MSNBC2 program will air live on the web every Wednesday at 11 a.m. ET. It is unclear how the cable news network intends to populate the new online channel with more programming.


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I cannot WAIT to not watch this.

kjl291 on June 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Doubling down on stupid just doesn’t seem to do this justice.

Flange on June 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Whocares2?

Akzed on June 18, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Blocked as potentially dangerous site by my web browser.

Defenestratus on June 18, 2014 at 1:04 PM

No thanks
morning Joe is enough for me

cmsinaz on June 18, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Dumping tenured fodder into sinecured exile.

Rix on June 18, 2014 at 1:06 PM

“BS” squared is just, well…

just more BS.

oldleprechaun on June 18, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Vapidity squared aka Smuggy Smuggy Snark Snark

sgtstogie on June 18, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Twice as biased and meaningless.

Patriot Vet on June 18, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Number 2

Texas T on June 18, 2014 at 1:08 PM

My libtard cousin, bless her heart, who thinks Fox News is “commercial” and Chris Matthews is unbiased, will love this new channel!!!

ladyingray on June 18, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Should Crystal Ball be hosting a show called “The Cycle” that is just eeewwwwwwww.

RickB on June 18, 2014 at 1:09 PM

online network which will feature MSNBC’s current personalities engaging with regular guests, but without the constraints imposed on content by advertising breaks.

Shorter version: Nobody will pay us to air this crap.

WisRich on June 18, 2014 at 1:10 PM

So they’re going to split their 12 viewers up resulting in even lower ratings?

Oxymoron on June 18, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Just great – Hot Air will eventually become a running commentary on this garbage.
Isn’t Vox bad enough?

22044 on June 18, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Watch the channel “evolve” to web-based only.

John the Libertarian on June 18, 2014 at 1:12 PM

A stomach-churning prospect, to be sure, but the bigger question is why they continue to embrace Krystal Ball. She’s, well, not terribly bright, and her claim to fame before MSNBC was an ill-conceived and embarrassing run for office. You expect Maddow to get the first crack at this.

changer1701 on June 18, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Does this seem to anyone else that they are going backward? Moving from their own cable channel to an old public access cable program? They are “progressing” towards Wayne’s World rather than away from it?

GWB on June 18, 2014 at 1:14 PM

LOL… The delusion is very strong with these morons…

mnjg on June 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM

I can think of only one stream that this would be similar to.

CBWV99 on June 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM

This Noah Rothman post seems almost like an advertisement for MSNBC2. It’s hard to distinguish it from a press release announcing the launch of MSNBC web programming.

Where’s the criticism of the channel? Where’s the needed and justifiable mocking of MSNBC in the post? Leaving that to the commenters?

Sometimes (and especially recently) on HotAir the best and most entertaining content is found in the comment section.

bluegill on June 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM

will feature MSNBC’s current personalities engaging with regular guests

They have personalities?

They have guests that are not constipated?

This is news to me.

s1im on June 18, 2014 at 1:19 PM

…The Cycle co-host Krystal Ball hosting a panel talk show dubbed Krystal Clear.

Because people were demanding more bimbo.

V7_Sport on June 18, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Really? PMSNBC launches a web show on the interwebs and it is news on Hot Air? Give me a break.

Captain Kirock on June 18, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Can’t get enough MSNBC? Get ready for MSNBC2

Failure, Part Deux.

rukiddingme on June 18, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Divide and (be) conquer(ed)(?)

Glenn Jericho on June 18, 2014 at 1:21 PM

In a final segment, Ball delivered a monologue rehashing the themes which motivated the short-lived Occupy Wall Street protest movement and mocked Goldman Sachs Group CEO Lloyd Blankfein for being late to the club by only recognizing the scourge of “income inequality” recently.

What, no review of Animal Farm?

NotCoach on June 18, 2014 at 1:22 PM

This Noah Rothman post seems almost like an advertisement for MSNBC2. It’s hard to distinguish it from a press release announcing the launch of MSNBC web programming.

Where’s the criticism of the channel? Where’s the needed and justifiable mocking of MSNBC in the post? Leaving that to the commenters?

bluegill on June 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM

He needed a bigger 2×4?

V7_Sport on June 18, 2014 at 1:22 PM

bluegill on June 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Comments here have always been the best .
Damn shame to see folks leave the site but
geez it’s getting tedious .

Lucano on June 18, 2014 at 1:22 PM

MSNBC.
The ‘Viewer Free” network.

TimBuk3 on June 18, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Yes please! Also, we have several potholes that need to be filled if you’re just looking to dump out good money willy nilly

CapnObvious on June 18, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Ed will be all over it.

KBird on June 18, 2014 at 1:25 PM

The panel guests who joined Ball to discuss Clinton’s ongoing book tour examined the gender bias that will plague her likely presidential campaign and defended her wealth, while expressing concerns over whether the Clinton family’s stature will prevent the former secretary of state from being able to relate to average voters.

You just can’t make this stuff up, folks.

Aizen on June 18, 2014 at 1:25 PM

The panel guests who joined Ball to discuss Clinton’s ongoing book tour examined the gender bias that will plague her likely presidential campaign

Noah, do you have a show on MSNBC2?

Akzed on June 18, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Ed will be all over it.
KBird on June 18, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Appearing on the channel as a guest is one thing, but not calling out the channel for its vile, non-stop, anti-conservative hate fest while appearing is what really disappoints me. Sigh.

bluegill on June 18, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Some of you guys are too hard on Noah. He isn’t AP. Noah knows that just the fact they are starting a second iteration of a failed network is comical in and of itself. His is a dry sarcasm that maybe doesn’t translate perfectly all the time, but there certainly is no endorsement of Train Wreck II. Come one, the laughs are all over this post.

The panel guests who joined Ball to discuss Clinton’s ongoing book tour examined the gender bias that will plague her likely presidential campaign and defended her wealth, while expressing concerns over whether the Clinton family’s stature will prevent the former secretary of state from being able to relate to average voters.

In a final segment, Ball delivered a monologue rehashing the themes which motivated the short-lived Occupy Wall Street protest movement and mocked Goldman Sachs Group CEO Lloyd Blankfein for being late to the club by only recognizing the scourge of “income inequality” recently.

I laughed at both those paragraphs, and all Noah had to do was report them straight.

NotCoach on June 18, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Why did I instantly get a mental image of Bob Geldof from “The Wall” slumped catatonically in an easy chair staring hypnotically into TWO MSNBC’s?

“Is there anybody…OUT THERE?”

jbspry on June 18, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Awrighty!! There is already so much on cable TV that I don’t watch.
This certainly will be another in that category.
I wonder if it will come in HD?

I already have so many other things planned for that time slot …
re-arranging my sock drawer … changing the air in my truck’s tires
… categorizing my belly button lint …

majorzot on June 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Will Ball appear cloths-less in the online version? That’s the only reason I could think of to watch it.

WhatSlushfund on June 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Their already tiny market share is bleeding, so they double their outlets. Must be planning to make it up in volume… Brilliant example of progressive logic.

obladioblada on June 18, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Some of you guys are too hard on Noah. He isn’t AP. Noah knows that just the fact they are starting a second iteration of a failed network is comical in and of itself. His is a dry sarcasm that maybe doesn’t translate perfectly all the time, but there certainly is no endorsement of Train Wreck II. Come one, the laughs are all over this post…

I laughed at both those paragraphs, and all Noah had to do was report them straight.

NotCoach on June 18, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Nailed it!

obladioblada on June 18, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Will Ball appear cloths-less in the online version? That’s the only reason I could think of to watch it.

WhatSlushfund on June 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM

You don’t want eye herpes.

NotCoach on June 18, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Sounds like the first step in getting rid of the cable network.

sadatoni on June 18, 2014 at 1:45 PM

I laughed at both those paragraphs, and all Noah had to do was report them straight.
NotCoach on June 18, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Of course you are right about his dry sarcasm, but it’s way too faint here. Rothman seems very friendly with many liberal media personalities, and I hope that this doesn’t play a part in preventing him from overtly and harshly criticizing the channel. We have enough “conservatives” who like to play nice and try to be seen by the other side as “one of the good, reasonable ones.”

bluegill on June 18, 2014 at 1:47 PM

If all two dozen viewers of MSLSD log on to MSLSD2, it will be a rousing success. Why didn’t Noah include a video from the program? When Ed does that MSLSD numbers go through the roof.

NOMOBO on June 18, 2014 at 1:50 PM

A stomach-churning prospect, to be sure, but the bigger question is why they continue to embrace Krystal Ball. She’s, well, not terribly bright, and her claim to fame before MSNBC was an ill-conceived and embarrassing run for office. You expect Maddow to get the first crack at this.

changer1701 on June 18, 2014 at 1:13 PM

She’s kept because she’s the only attractive woman they have.

ConstantineXI on June 18, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Where are the stockholders? Why aren’t they revolting, about the company intentionally trying to lose money?

Ward Cleaver on June 18, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Well, whoop-dee-doo. /sarc

MikeHu on June 18, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Brilliant move actually. They can ease all of their blowhard talent onto the net because nobody but psychopaths watch that chit anyway and then they can fill the TV slots with the docs that actually draw an audience.

Southernblogger on June 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM

A stomach-churning prospect, to be sure, but the bigger question is why they continue to embrace Krystal Ball. She’s, well, not terribly bright, and her claim to fame before MSNBC was an ill-conceived and embarrassing run for office. You expect Maddow to get the first crack at this.

changer1701 on June 18, 2014 at 1:13 PM

She’s not terribly bright, because she’s progressive. Self evident…

KB is the only uh, er, hot host the progressives have. Would anyone watch another hour of Maddow or tingles, or Al?

old school on June 18, 2014 at 2:00 PM

NotCoach on June 18, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Noah was a great get for Hot Air. The only drawback is Mediaite is basically Huffpost 2.0 now.

Southernblogger on June 18, 2014 at 2:01 PM

She’s not terribly bright, because she’s progressive. Self evident…

KB is the only uh, er, hot host the progressives have. Would anyone watch another hour of Maddow or tingles, or Al?

old school on June 18, 2014 at 2:00 PM

What’s wrong with The Tampon Review hosted by Melissa Harris-Perry?

NotCoach on June 18, 2014 at 2:04 PM

How does that make sense? Two low rating stations?

Cindy Munford on June 18, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Sometimes (and especially recently) on HotAir the best and most entertaining content is found in the comment section.

bluegill on June 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM

And they’re never yours, you ignorant sloot.

Your comments on HA are what my butt is to the toilet every morning. Something to be flushed, and never seen (or smelled) again.

ZeusGoose on June 18, 2014 at 2:22 PM

We’ll know they run out of ideas when her next new show is called “Krystal Meth”.

Hucklebuck on June 18, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Oh, internet. Don’t they need sponsors for that or is it just a different tax write off?

Cindy Munford on June 18, 2014 at 2:23 PM

The woman’s name is Krystal Ball and they expect us to take her seriously? I have never watched MSNBC but may have to tune in long enough to see if she looks like something out of Harry Potter.

Yankee Doodle on June 18, 2014 at 2:28 PM

So the recent public failure of Liberal ideology didn’t convince them their ideas are old and stale and no one cares?

Figures.

petunia on June 18, 2014 at 2:30 PM

Doubling down on failure.

They’ve been reading Barry’s manuals again.

AZCoyote on June 18, 2014 at 2:38 PM

I think this is a winner. They should definitely deplete the bank account further by launching this new venue. Go MSNBC go.

307wolverine on June 18, 2014 at 2:42 PM

The woman’s name is Krystal Ball and they expect us to take her seriously? I have never watched MSNBC but may have to tune in long enough to see if she looks like something out of Harry Potter.

Yankee Doodle on June 18, 2014 at 2:28 PM

She used to be on FOX occasionally many years ago. She is fairly attractive (as liberal women go), but she’s stupid as the is long.

I always her name was a joke, or she changed it, but when I looked it up, it seems her parents really did name her that. Probably just hippies, or cruel idiots.

Of course, that’s nothing compared to the used-car salesman I dealt with once. His name was Howie Cheatum ;)

ZeusGoose on June 18, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Much prefer that handsome lad Maddow, particularily after a fresh tooth filing.

kenny on June 18, 2014 at 2:46 PM

…but she’s stupid as the day is long.

But you probably figured that out.

ZeusGoose on June 18, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Much prefer that handsome lad Maddow, particularily after a fresh tooth filing.

kenny on June 18, 2014 at 2:46 PM

To construe the viscious Progressivism of Maddow, nothing more

kenny on June 18, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Soon they’ll be web-only, and then podcast only.

JeremiahJohnson on June 18, 2014 at 3:02 PM

may have to tune in long enough to see if she looks like something out of Harry Potter.

Yankee Doodle on June 18, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Should be “Hairy Peter” with that name. (I know, you were being family-friendly – but this *is* MSNBC we’re talking about.)

His name was Howie Cheatum ;)

ZeusGoose on June 18, 2014 at 2:46 PM

He could have been a part of the classic Stooge’s Dewey, Cheatem & Howe law firm.

GWB on June 18, 2014 at 3:05 PM

It’s like starting Air America 2. Dead air sponsored by white noise.

StubbornGreenBurros on June 18, 2014 at 3:07 PM

He could have been a part of the classic Stooge’s Dewey, Cheatem & Howe law firm.

GWB on June 18, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Yeah, that’s the rip-off joke I was going for, but I had to modify to a single individual’s name. But I do believe Howie, the used car salesman mentioned that he had brother named Dewey who was a lawyer ;-)

ZeusGoose on June 18, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Future peak at MSNBC 2

BTW: I know these guys are uber liberal, but this was one of the best comedy shows ever in my opinion.

StubbornGreenBurros on June 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Are we sure this isn’t some live porn webcam stream?

BKeyser on June 18, 2014 at 3:17 PM

They’re now working on MSNBC3!

That will be transmitted by walkie-talkies AND telegraphs!

They were going to launch MSNBC4, to communicate with ‘Native-Americans’, but they realized the smoke signals may have upset the enviro-whackos.

Also, I hear they will be offering a new “sleeping sound” device that will help angry, victimized liberals fall to sleep to the soothing sounds of voices such as Rachel Madcow and Priss Maffewh lulling to lullaby land by reassuring you “It’s not your fault, blame the conservatives!”

ZeusGoose on June 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM

It’s MSNBC Classic I’m worried about.

cbenoistd on June 18, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Much prefer that handsome lad Maddow, particularily after a fresh tooth filing.

kenny on June 18, 2014 at 2:46 PM

I hear he likes movies about gladiators

V7_Sport on June 18, 2014 at 3:35 PM

It’s like starting Air America 2. Dead air sponsored by white noise.

StubbornGreenBurros on June 18, 2014 at 3:07 PM

See? That’s raaaaaaaaaaccccccccccccciiiiiiiiissssssttttttttt!!!

They needed some black noise and bilingual brown noise as sponsors, too!

ZeusGoose on June 18, 2014 at 3:37 PM

They want to split all the viewers they have now?

Both of them?

Any network with an anchorbabe that calls herself Krystal Ball ought to quit while it’s behind.

formwiz on June 18, 2014 at 3:44 PM

bluegill on June 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Comments here have always been the best .
Damn shame to see folks leave the site but
geez it’s getting tedious .

Lucano on June 18, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Why do the mods tolerate her bullsh!t?

HA is losing many good commenters because they choose to allow toxic people like bluegill to run rampant here. You wonder when they’ll finally figure out they need to revamp the moderation here in favor of those posters who operate in good faith. bg clearly is not one of these people, as she shows every time she runs down MKH, Guy Benson, Noah, etc.

non-nonpartisan on June 18, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Are we sure this isn’t some live porn webcam stream?

BKeyser on June 18, 2014 at 3:17 PM

Well, if they start “broad”-casting ex-porn star Stormy Weathers explaining the ‘settled science’ of Global-Warming-Climate- Changing-Disruption-Armageddon-Apocalypse, then I may raise an eyebrow.

Until then, I’ll trust MSNBC to give us the unbiased news they are so famous for.

/

ZeusGoose on June 18, 2014 at 3:52 PM

How does that make sense? Two low rating stations?

Cindy Munford on June 18, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Sounds like some kind of money-laundering scheme, or maybe a tax dodge? Or as someone pointed out above, a way to salvage some part of MSNBC when they finally have to remove the original from cable due to low ratings?

The curious thing is that they still get advertisers. I can’t see how a business making money would advertise on a network hardly anyone watches. The only two things I can come up with there is that the ads are a de facto form of political contributions to a DNC mouthpiece and/or that ad dollars are a tax deduction.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 18, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Ratings will be just behind the Ping Pong Network and right ahead of the Quilting Network.

cat-scratch on June 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM

HA is losing many good commenters because they choose to allow toxic people like bluegill to run rampant here. You wonder when they’ll finally figure out they need to revamp the moderation here in favor of those posters who operate in good faith. bg clearly is not one of these people, as she shows every time she runs down MKH, Guy Benson, Noah, etc.
non-nonpartisan on June 18, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Even if you don’t like it, expressing different opinions is not against the rules. I and many others here praise the writers when we believe they deserve praise, and we also offer criticism when when we believe improvement can be made. You may not agree with all of our points, but that’s okay.

This site may have lost a couple commenters who couldn’t refrain from leaving vulgar comments on a regular basis, but removing that vulgarity was a positive move for the site.

I applaud the editors here for their high quality work and for fostering discussions which welcome all points of view.

bluegill on June 18, 2014 at 4:29 PM

bg, I am not interested in having discussions with you, as I can see you are narcissistic, toxic, and a liar. The mods are foolish to allow people like you to freely trash them. HA is losing good commenters because of how they favor the trolls in their moderation. I hope they figure this out soon. I’ll admit I’m afraid it’s too late.

non-nonpartisan on June 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Soon they’ll be web-only, and then podcast only.

JeremiahJohnson on June 18, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Then it’ll be that dude Rachel Maddow standing on a street corner, haranguing passers-by and wearing a “The End is Near” sign.

CurtZHP on June 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM

non-nonpartisan on June 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Out of respect for the other readers here and the writers, I am done responding to the silly name-calling. Let’s try to keep the comments at least somewhat related to the blog posts.

Ratings will be just behind the Ping Pong Network and right ahead of the Quilting Network.
cat-scratch on June 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Exactly. And I think it is always funny to see how much time MSNBC spends obsessing over the ratings leader, Fox News, while Fox just ignores MSNBC for the most part.

bluegill on June 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Out of respect for the other readers here and the writers, I am done responding to the silly name-calling. Let’s try to keep the comments at least somewhat related to the blog posts.

bluegill on June 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Me: “I am not interested in having discussions with you, as I can see you are narcissistic, toxic, and a liar.”

You: “Why don’t you like me? Why don’t you trust me? Why won’t you talk to me?”

Me: “What part of ‘narcissistic, toxic, and a liar’ are you having trouble comprehending? You are a special kind of idiot, are you? lmao”

non-nonpartisan on June 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM

This is a conservative site so one can freely state one’s opinion and not worry if one steps a millimeter out of the group think envelope.

Your thought policing says a lot about you… none of it good.

jukin3 on June 18, 2014 at 6:00 PM

This is a conservative site so one can freely state one’s opinion and not worry if one steps a millimeter out of the group think envelope.

Your thought policing says a lot about you… none of it good.

jukin3 on June 18, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Just who do you think is doing the groupthink and thought-policing here? Do you believe libel/slander and trolling with the intent to disrupt are covered under “free speech”? Do you think HA doesn’t have a Terms of Use?

HA is losing good commenters because of their permissiveness with liars and trolls who play stupid here. Do you think the HA moderators should care?

non-nonpartisan on June 18, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Watch the channel “evolve” to web-based only.

John the Libertarian on June 18, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Soon they’ll be web-only, and then podcast only.

JeremiahJohnson on June 18, 2014 at 3:02 PM

.
In the real world, yes.
.
What if it’s underwritten by Soros?

listens2glenn on June 19, 2014 at 8:49 AM