Quotes of the day

posted at 10:21 pm on June 17, 2014 by Allahpundit

Hillary Rodham Clinton is not deciding whether to run for president; she’s already running for president. If she doesn’t make it to the starting gate for the 2016 Democratic primaries, she will have quit running. When has a Clinton ever quit anything?…

For years, Clinton loyalists have had to account for the simple truth that Hillary does not possess her husband’s natural political gifts. That’s no disgrace; few politicians do. But she can be thin-skinned, defensive, tin-eared, needlessly confrontational, and susceptible to wild conspiracy theories. Bill has these traits, too, but hides them better…

Then and now, she despised being questioned about either her motives or judgment. This week, she lashed out at liberal interviewer Terry Gross for having the temerity to ask if the Clintons had changed their minds about gay marriage or if they had changed their public position when it became expedient. It’s an interesting question, actually, and one I’ve wondered about since the night during Bill Clinton’s 1996 re-election campaign when he signed the Orwellian-named Defense of Marriage Act into law. Hillary also fudged on the date in the Gross interview, citing the year 1993, a reminder that another trait she shares with Bill is a willingness to bend the truth.

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If Hillary Clinton is elected president in 2016, most Americans say they think she will do a good job handling crucial domestic and international issues, according to a new national poll…

Clinton served as America’s top diplomat during Obama’s first four years in office, so it may not be surprising that some of her best marks in the poll come on overseas issues: 63% say she would do a good job on foreign policy and 61% say the same on terrorism.

But it is notable that 63% say she’d do a good job handling the economy, and 57% believe she’d handle health care well…

Just 38% questioned in the CNN poll say that they approve of how the President’s handling the economy. That’s 25 percentage points lower than the number who think Clinton would do a good job on the economy. Only 40% approve of Obama’s foreign policy, 23 points lower than Clinton.

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Yet when it comes to the kind of domestic policy platform we can expect from a Clinton candidacy, it may be anything but a shift away from Obama. Instead, it will look a lot like a third Obama term, focusing on areas that should still have enormous popular appeal come 2016.

Over his first six years in office, Obama has followed through on significant promises advancing a center-left agenda. A Clinton candidacy will aim to consolidate these gains and build upon them…

There are undoubtedly other areas where Clinton could build on Obama’s groundwork. As president, she’d continue implementing and refining the Affordable Care Act. She’d push for immigration reform if that remains unachieved. Perhaps she would try for the much-needed gun safety measures that have eluded Obama despite the disturbing regularity of mass carnage…

For all the talk of Obama fatigue, the promise of a Clinton candidacy would largely be a continuation of the consensus policy vision of the center-left.

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Hillary Clinton refused to say what policies she disagrees with her husband, former President Bill Clinton, and insisted such matters should be kept private…

“Well, I practiced law for a long time and there’s such a thing called the marital privilege where you do not testify against your spouse,” she declared to laughs…

“We’re constantly sharing ideas and perceptions. We have, I think, an agreeable, general view about our country and the work that we think needs to happen to keep the American dream alive and give, particularly young people, the chance to have the same opportunities that we had,” she said. “We have a lot of differences and it kind of keeps the conversation going.”

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Exhibit A for what Robert Kagan describes as his “mainstream” view of American force is his relationship with former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who remains the vessel into which many interventionists are pouring their hopes. Mr. Kagan pointed out that he had recently attended a dinner of foreign-policy experts at which Mrs. Clinton was the guest of honor, and that he had served on her bipartisan group of foreign-policy heavy hitters at the State Department, where his wife worked as her spokeswoman.

“I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy,” Mr. Kagan said, adding that the next step after Mr. Obama’s more realist approach “could theoretically be whatever Hillary brings to the table” if elected president. “If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue,” he added, “it’s something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else.”

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“This time around, be true to yourself,” Hubbell tells me, using the second-person pronoun to indirectly advise Clinton. “You’re still trying to create —” he stops himself. “You’ve got so many people around you trying to shape your image that you lack …”

“Authenticity?” I suggest.

Hubbell nods. Shifting to the third-person, he says of Clinton, “I think that instead she needs to be herself. She’s a great person.”…

Hubbell isn’t the only person encouraging Clinton to get real. I wrote a column six months ago that channeled her closest associates urging Clinton to run a radically atypical campaign – accessible, authentic, insurgent and populist. One of the sources of that column, a top adviser, told me last week, “My friend is making the same old mistakes.”

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Hillary Clinton’s out-of-the-gate stumbles in interviews this week reflect an issue she’s faced repeatedly during her political career – defensiveness with the media, and difficulty acknowledging a mistake

“Be careful what you ask for because you might get it,” said one Clinton insider, pointing to the coverage of the cautious Clinton and saying this is what happens when a politician is candid. “Well, here you go, people. Buckle up.”

Still, this is hardly the first time Clinton has flashed irritation when confronted by unwelcome queries — it has happened frequently throughout her political career. Clinton has also shown some rustiness in the past after coming back from a hiatus from the media glare; her return to the public stage this week came after a year of very little questioning from the press…

“Hillary simply needs to learn to speak to the voters through the interviewer rather than taking the bait,” said one veteran Democratic strategist, who asked not to be identified. “When you get combative, you are simply inviting the rest of the media to take the same approach.”

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No one doubts she will be a strong supporter of gay equality if elected president, now that all the political incentives to take that position are aligned. She has advanced gay rights other than marriage at times in her long career. And she has never come across in speeches or interviews as an anti-gay bigot. There is, however, a vocal segment of the left that is invested in likening people who opposed gay marriage to racists who opposed interracial marriage. There is also resentment from gays who feel that the Clintons wronged them in the past…

Clinton’s NPR interview sheds light both on educated Democrats who think they know her and the way she plans to talk to them about her longtime opposition to marriage equality.

Consider how the issue was broached. “So what’s it like when you’re in office and you have to do all these political calculations to not be able to support something like gay marriage that you actually believe in?” Gross said. “You obviously feel very committed to human rights and you obviously put gay rights as part of human rights. But in doing the calculus you decided you couldn’t support it.” The NPR host is seemingly unable to conceive of the fact than an iconic Democrat like Clinton could have really, truly opposed gay equality all those years. In liberal circles, it now seems impossible to have cared deeply about human rights, to have cared about gay rights, and to have objected to gay marriage, even though that was the exact position of almost all liberals very recently…

One wonders if her reputation for wisdom and competence can survive a primary election that focuses attention on how frequently she gets big judgment calls wrong.

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Now on Iraq, she finds herself in a familiar and uncomfortable position between a war-weary Democratic Party on one side and hawkish Republicans eager to paint her as weak on the other. She’s tried to thread this needle before and it didn’t work well.

“The current crisis in Iraq is a reminder of the dangers Hillary Clinton faces with the Democratic base,” said Stephen Miles of the progressive group Win without War. “Today, with the threat of military action once again on the table in Iraq, … we’ll be looking to see if her recent denunciation of her 2002 vote for the Iraq War represents a true change of heart or was simply an effort to rewrite history in advance of a 2016 run.”…

Of course, Iraq is an old problem for Clinton. Heading into the 2008 presidential campaign, she tried to atone for her vote in favor by becoming one of the Senate’s more vocal antiwar voices, opposing the surge and voting to block it in a bill that didn’t gain cloture. Later, she said that while the increased troops had helped improve security temporarily, the surge ultimately “failed” in its broader goals.

In a different move that now looks more prescient, she in August of 2007 called on the Iraqi Parliament to replace al-Maliki with “a less divisive and more unifying figure,” prompting an angry response from the leader.

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“We’re not going to forgive her, despite her best effort to whitewash her history,” said Brian Becker, the executive director of the antiwar ANSWER Coalition, which formed in the run-up to the Iraq War. “We consider Hillary Clinton to be almost a part of the neoconservative establishment.”…

Eugene Puryear, a far-left activist who is running for an at-large seat on the District of Columbia Council, said there’s “absolutely no chance” he could support Clinton. Her latter-day admission that the vote was a mistake is “highly opportunistic … absurd and really offensive,” added Puryear, whose interest in politics started when he attended an anti-Iraq War march during high school.

Gerry Condon, the vice president of Veterans for Peace, was somewhat more sympathetic, saying he thought Clinton had “learned her lesson,” but said he could still never support her. “We would welcome her becoming a politician who actually supports diplomacy, but I’m not going to hold my breath,” he said…

Carlo Chavarría, a 21-year-old rising senior at American University, said there’s no way he’d vote for Clinton in 2016. “She seems so progressive on other issues,” he said, but when it comes to foreign policy, “she’s a warmonger.”

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3) It ain’t gonna be a coronation. HRC must have been taken aback last week when two members of the traveling sisterhood – Diane Sawyer of ABC News and Terry Gross of NPR – actually pressed her with uncomfortable questions about Benghazi and gay marriage, respectively. Hillary didn’t respond well in either situation, and the ensuing coverage was instructive. If she can’t count on favorable press coverage during the choreographed rollout of a self-reverential memoir, what does that tell us about how she’d do in debates against a determined opponent? And does Clinton really want to face the scrutiny, not to mention the slings and arrows, that come with any campaign?

4) Obama is leaving a mess. President Obama’s second term is complicating matters significantly for Hillary. His foreign policy, which Clinton helped direct for four years – is adrift. The situation has unraveled dangerously in Syria and now Iraq. The infamous “reset” with Russia is a joke. Obama’s job approval rating is on the slide, and not only on foreign policy. He’s struggling to stay relevant in Washington or to move any sort of domestic agenda forward, which will be made even more difficult if Republicans take the Senate in November. It’s hard to see how any of these dynamics change for the better in the next two years — and they may get worse. Hillary will not want to be seen as running for Obama’s third term, yet she won’t be able to distance herself too far from his record. That will be a tough needle to thread politically (see point #1).

5) The country wants real change. America was mesmerized by Obama’s call for change in 2008. It was one of the narratives that propelled him over Hillary in the first place. Eight years later, Obama has failed to deliver much of what he promised on uniting the country and changing business as usual in Washington. As a result an even stronger populist, anti-establishment, anti-incumbent fervor is coursing through the electorate. That does not bode well for Hillary Clinton, who embodies the elite establishment — and the past. If the famed Clinton political acumen still exists in that family, Hillary will figure this out and take a pass on 2016.

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Via the Corner.


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Leo! (My cat)

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Zeus! (My other cat)

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Evening.

gh on June 17, 2014 at 10:23 PM

When has a Clinton ever quit anything?…

Hillary is a ‘Clinton’ by injection. Maybe only once. Make no mistake. She’s as much an Alinsky devotee as the current rat-eared wonder. Billy-Jeff was an oversexed child with a gift for con. Long & short.

Judge_Dredd on June 17, 2014 at 10:26 PM

Politico: Will The ‘Real Hillary’ Please Just STFU Already?

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:23 PM

She looks awful in that picture. Not that I had my hopes up.

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 10:26 PM

That’s it ???

gh on June 17, 2014 at 10:26 PM

blah blah blah. ready for hillary, ready for QOTD!

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:27 PM

Whoever did Hillary’s facelift didn’t do a very good job. Her constant startled look is really getting creepy.

txmomof6 on June 17, 2014 at 10:27 PM

The Obamanation Administration are a bunch of liars, but those paying attention knew this years ago.

oscarwilde on June 17, 2014 at 10:27 PM

Ratso!

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:27 PM

Politico: Will The ‘Real Hillary’ Please Just STFU Already?

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:23 PM

im fairly certain that little blog post of yours there violates fair use..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM

For all the talk of Obama fatigue, the promise of a Clinton candidacy would largely be a continuation of the consensus policy vision of the center-left.

By more than 2-1, 65%-30%, Americans say they want the president elected in 2016 to pursue different policies and programs than the Obama administration, rather than similar ones.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Politico: Will The ‘Real Hillary’ Please Just STFU Already?

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:23 PM

I can’t stand the woman. Genuinely hoping my fellow Americans are smart enough that they won’t elect a die-hard ideologue who cares so little about this nation 3 times in a row!

lineholder on June 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM

So, KoolAid2 fell under the hammer yesterday morning. It was a quiet ban…
Good one Doc!

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM

quoting an entire article without even providing a link to the original..tsk tsk..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Apparently the bluegilled hagfish has a new scalp for her bedpost. Sorry to see another long time commenter banned. It appears the powers that be prefer the kind of commentary they get from bluegill, lourdes, coolrepublic, kochbrain and the other trolls than that of Swalker, Sparkplug, lanceman and Koolaid2. So be it, it’s their sandbox. I attempted to show the trolls for what they are to no avail. The trolls get special treatment that would get other commenters banned. Lourdes with a blatant and outrageous act of libel, and bluegill with one almost as bad. They shred the terms of use the way 0bama shreds the constitution. The moderators let them get away with it, and they do it for money. Draw from that what you will. Most of us knew we were held to a higher standard and the trolls took advantage of that to use Alinsky’s rules to change this place more to their liking. Bluegill can take comfort in her victory, alone in her bed with only her iPhone, and the trolls here for company. She must really be proud of closing down the gultch. I never saw the point in hanging out in a long dead thread, but occasionally went there just to see what was going on. Take a bow hagfish. That was all on you.

There have been many ups, and downs, through the years, and if I never hear waterloo again, it will be too soon. Though I don’t particularly like any of y’all, many of whom are experts in many, and varied, fields, I will miss the insights and information y’all provided. Even when I was calling you nutballs, I took in the information. Except for the idiot trolls.

It isn’t hard to see the writing on the wall. Even somebody as dense as myself can see the way things are going. Is it worth putting up with the trolls to see who they will get banned next? I don’t know. Everybody else will have to decide that for themselves. Y’all can stay and whine about the direction this place is going, or the last one out can turn off the lights and for heaven’s sake, don’t leave anything in the bar. Y’all have fun. I’m going to go clean out some bookmarks.

I’ll leave y’all with the garbled (probably ban worthy for me) immortal words of the sometimes-goofy governor of the GREAT STATE OF TEXAS:

Adios modo’s.

Lest the trolls sleep easy tonight, your time will come.

Oh, and this.

I cannot take my pitchfork to Washington, but I can bring it here. I can think of no better way to go out than this:

“From Hell’s heart, I stab at thee… For hate’s sake, I spit my last breath at thee…”

cozmo on June 17, 2014 at 10:29 PM

im fairly certain that little blog post of yours there violates fair use..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Then, report me. I don’t make a single penny off of it and use it as a repository.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Hillary’s book is bombing. She’s committing gaffe after gaffe with every interview, even when the interviewer is a liberal.

I’m really enjoying this.

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Repeating myself from earlier today. Is this really the face of our future? (JarJar) My give up.

DemetriusPhalerum on June 17, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Then, report me. I don’t make a single penny off of it and use it as a repository.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:30 PM

you seem to consider yourself highly educated..is proper citation and attribution so hard to grasp for you, or are you just lazy?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:31 PM

cozmo on June 17, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Nooooooooo. Don’t go…

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:32 PM

im fairly certain that little blog post of yours there violates fair use..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM

And I’m fairly certain you still don’t know how to capitalize.
Are you aware RWM is an attorney? I would wager she knows more about “fair use”–whatever that is–than you do.

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 10:32 PM

cozmo on June 17, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Your choice, cozmo, but if you leave, bluegill gets a twofer.

Just sayin’. Hope you’ll stay, BTW.

lineholder on June 17, 2014 at 10:32 PM

Hillary’s book is bombing. She’s committing gaffe after gaffe with every interview, even when the interviewer is a liberal.

I’m really enjoying this.

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:30 PM

She’s universally unliked.

Judge_Dredd on June 17, 2014 at 10:33 PM

you seem to consider yourself highly educated..is proper citation and attribution so hard to grasp for you, or are you just lazy?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:31 PM

I wrote:

‘Politico” and ‘By Roger Simon’

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:33 PM

proper citation and attribution so hard to grasp for you, or are you just lazy?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:31 PM

The byline is on the top of the article. Learn to use the shift key.

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 10:33 PM

Please. Trollcott. For KA2 tonight. DO NOT ENGAGE THEM!!!

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:23 PM

im fairly certain that little blog post of yours there violates fair use..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM

I’m fairly certain that you don’t have a clue what you are talking about.

oscarwilde on June 17, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Monica Lewinsky’s ex-boyfriend’s wife asks:

What difference, at this point, does it make?

Galtian on June 17, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Apparently the bluegilled hagfish has a new scalp for her bedpost. Sorry to see another long time commenter banned. It appears the powers that be prefer the kind of commentary they get from bluegill, lourdes, coolrepublic, kochbrain and the other trolls than that of Swalker, Sparkplug, lanceman and Koolaid2. So be it, it’s their sandbox.

There have been many ups, and downs, through the years, and if I never hear waterloo again, it will be too soon. Though I don’t particularly like any of y’all, many of whom are experts in many, and varied, fields, I will miss the insights and information y’all provided. Even when I was calling you nutballs, I took in the information. Except for the idiot trolls.

It isn’t hard to see the writing on the wall. Even somebody as dense as myself can see the way things are going. Is it worth putting up with the trolls to see who they will get banned next? I don’t know. Everybody else will have to decide that for themselves. Y’all can stay and whine about the direction this place is going, or the last one out can turn off the lights and for heaven’s sake, don’t leave anything in the bar. Y’all have fun. I’m going to go clean out some bookmarks.

cozmo on June 17, 2014 at 10:29 PM

You’re not alone on how you feel. I posted this is yesterday’s QOTD a little while ago.

Anyone interested in setting up a free forum outside of HA as an alternative to the Gulch, and as a way to be free of prying, unwanted eyes and trolls when wanted? I’ll probably bring this up in tonight’s QOTD, too.

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:03 PM

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:35 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on June 17, 2014 at 10:35 PM

fairly certain that little blog post of yours there violates fair use.. ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Please,, go there.

Hey Sophie,, your mission should you accept it is to destroy this jackwad sock.

wolly4321 on June 17, 2014 at 10:35 PM

Let Hillary be Hillary!
Yes, by all means. She is a nasty piece of work with a short fuse it seems. Definitely let her be herself to her fullest potential.

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 10:36 PM

She’s universally unliked.

Judge_Dredd on June 17, 2014 at 10:33PM

Yes, sure seems that way. I’m shocked though that the book isn’t selling. Thought there were plenty of libtards who would rush out to buy it.

But nice to know “Dead broke” Hillary has earned about $14 million, regardless of the lack of sales.

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:36 PM

Please,, go there.

Hey Sophie,, your mission should you accept it is to destroy this jackwad sock.

wolly4321 on June 17, 2014 at 10:35 PM

Why? Do you want to see her banned?

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:36 PM

I will happily write you a book no one reads for $14 million. No problem

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Engaging the trolls is taking out a lot of our friends and family here…

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:37 PM

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:03 PM

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:35 PM

There are already several such places. Folks just have to decide to use them. RWM has one, Axe has one Bmore has one, and so does this Idiot.

oscarwilde on June 17, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Then, report me. I don’t make a single penny off of it and use it as a repository.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:30 PM

doesnt matter if you dont make a penny..you are removing the need for people to actually visit politicos website, thereby depriving them of advertiser revenue. market substitutes and all that..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Evidence of an increase in equity-buying by central banks and other public-sector investors has emerged from a survey of publicly owned or managed investments compiled by the Official Monetary and Financial Institutions Forum (OMFIF), a global research and advisory group.

The OMFIF research publication, Global Public Investor (GPI) 2014, launched on June 17, is the first comprehensive survey of $29.1 trillion worth of investments held by 400 public-sector institutions in 162 countries. The report focuses on investments by 157 central banks, 156 public pension funds and 87 sovereign funds.

There are worries that central banks may be over-stretching themselves by operating in too many areas.

J_Crater on June 17, 2014 at 10:38 PM

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:35 PM

It’s a good idea, and I hope some of the commenters who have been here for a while will consider doing it. Y’all are a good group!

I wish we had possessed the forethought to do that when RS started to unravel three years ago. I still have contact with some of my old blog-mates from there, but it’s not like the camaraderie y’all have here.

lineholder on June 17, 2014 at 10:38 PM

There. I’ve torn the collar on bluegill.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:38 PM

On topic. Why is this smiling dwarf ‘inevitable’? I just don’t get it.

DemetriusPhalerum on June 17, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Please. Trollcott. For KA2 tonight and every other night, too. DO NOT ENGAGE THEM!!!

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:34 PM

OC is right. They troll and waste time. Why give them any of it? Spend it only on people here who care what you think.

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:38 PM

If Bill Clinton is a street hustler running a three card monte game, Hillary is the ideal customer.

She’s a rare combo of personal defensive insecurity combined with misplaced and impulsive overconfidence in advisors. Whomever handed her the “Reset” button is an idiot, for example, but an idiot Hillary impulsively thought was brilliant. Bill Clinton would have every cent out of her wallet and into his long before Putin tries robbing her with his switchblade.

MTF on June 17, 2014 at 10:39 PM

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:35 PM

I have some plans in that area.

gh on June 17, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Evening All

cozmo on June 17, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Please reconsider cozmo.

CoffeeLover on June 17, 2014 at 10:39 PM

cozmo on June 17, 2014 at 10:29 PM
Cozmo, you will be missed. You are right about this place these days though, it is definitely not what it used to be.

txmomof6 on June 17, 2014 at 10:40 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Is this your gotcha for tonight?Reach deep down in your sack and give us something of substance to mock.

docflash on June 17, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Engaging the trolls is taking out a lot of our friends and family here…

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Indeed. So trollcott?

Question: If QOTD an open thread? If so, then can we treat it like an open thread? (Drives bluegill nuts to go off topic)

lineholder on June 17, 2014 at 10:40 PM

doesnt matter if you dont make a penny..you are removing the need for people to actually visit politicos website, thereby depriving them of advertiser revenue. market substitutes and all that..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Like I said, report me. My blog is personal and I share it with my friends. Since you aren’t one, I’m unsure as to why you would even go there.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Yes, sure seems that way. I’m shocked though that the book isn’t selling. Thought there were plenty of libtards who would rush out to buy it.

But nice to know “Dead broke” Hillary has earned about $14 million, regardless of the lack of sales.

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:36 PM

Are you kidding? Most of the time the bulk of those books are purchased by unions & PACS. In bulk. Just to jack up the numbers. This is just more proof how unwilling people are to stick their neck out for her.

Judge_Dredd on June 17, 2014 at 10:41 PM

I will happily write you a book no one reads for $14 million. No problem

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 10:37 PM

I’ll do it for $5 million.

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Judge_Dredd on June 17, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Well then actual sales must be really, REALLY bad.

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

I’ll do it for $5 million.

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:41 PM

I’ll do it for 1 million.

crankyoldlady on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Please. Trollcott. For KA2 tonight. DO NOT ENGAGE THEM!!!

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Hear! Hear!

I have made my opinion known on this subject before; I won’t belabor the point.

Apparently we have lost another regular, and a place of refuge has been shut down, thanks to trolls.

Why do people insist on feeding them? Why? I just don’t get it.

novaculus on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

I’ll do it for $5 million.

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:41 PM

OK, but for that it’s gonna be a pop up book. :)

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Indeed. So trollcott?

Question: If QOTD an open thread? If so, then can we treat it like an open thread? (Drives bluegill nuts to go off topic)

lineholder on June 17, 2014 at 10:40 PM

I have never seen it officially described as an open thread, but it has always been treated as such in the many years I have been here…

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

u seem to consider yourself highly educated..is proper citation and attribution so hard to grasp for you, or are you just lazy? ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:31 P

You read her blog everyday, too?

Then why are you so stoooopid?

wolly4321 on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

If she doesn’t make it to the starting gate for the 2016 Democratic primaries, she will have quit running.

C’mon now, Clydesdales can’t run all that fast. Plus, they don’t usually lie all the time.

cabra viejo on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

lineholder on June 17, 2014 at 10:32 PM

You’re new.

Some have endured that ceaseless nagging and haranguing for many years, week in, week out.

I hope Coz will change his mind and stay, too, but I’ll understand if he chooses fresh air and moonlight.

thatsafactjack on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Coming up on Hannity….. Rick Perry will discuss border crisis.

Glad to know he’s aware of it now. He’s done nothing as far as I know.

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Taking song suggestions for KA2…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 17, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Why do people insist on feeding them? Why? I just don’t get it.

novaculus on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Stop arguing with these people. I don’t. they are bringing down the mood.

crankyoldlady on June 17, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Like I said, report me. My blog is personal and I share it with my friends. Since you aren’t one, I’m unsure as to why you would even go there.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:41 PM

so it doesnt matter to you that you are potentially in violation of copyright law?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 17, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Well then actual sales must be really, REALLY bad.

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Guaranteed. Probably less than 10,000 of those sold will be seriously read. It Takes A Village Idiot was a snoozer to LIVs anyway.

Judge_Dredd on June 17, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Evenin’.
Wind’s howlin’ like a banshee out there. Maybe the storm will carry me to Israel.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 17, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Hear! Hear!

I have made my opinion known on this subject before; I won’t belabor the point.

Apparently we have lost another regular, and a place of refuge has been shut down, thanks to trolls.

Why do people insist on feeding them? Why? I just don’t get it.

novaculus on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

I don’t get it either…

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Back in a bit….

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 10:45 PM

I’ll do it for 1 million.

crankyoldlady on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

The things that ‘dead broke” people will do for money. :)

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Anyone interested in setting up a free forum outside of HA as an alternative to the Gulch, and as a way to be free of prying, unwanted eyes and trolls when wanted? I’ll probably bring this up in tonight’s QOTD, too.

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:03 PM

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:35 PM

If I recall correctly that is how Ace of Spades got his start. I am pretty sure he was a commenter on Polipundit back in the day and got irritated, then up and started his own outfit.

txmomof6 on June 17, 2014 at 10:45 PM

I have never seen it officially described as an open thread, but it has always been treated as such in the many years I have been here…

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

It usually stays on topic for about the first page and a half. :)

cabra viejo on June 17, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Hear! Hear!

I have made my opinion known on this subject before; I won’t belabor the point.

Apparently we have lost another regular, and a place of refuge has been shut down, thanks to trolls.

Why do people insist on feeding them? Why? I just don’t get it.

novaculus on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

I don’t get it either…

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2014 at 10:44 PM

?????

annoyinglittletwerp on June 17, 2014 at 10:45 PM

US Urges Sri Lanka To Protect Religious Minorities After Buddhist Hardliners Attack Muslims

When’s the last time the Obama administration spoke out against the violence perpetrated by Muslims against minorities like Christians and Jews?

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:45 PM

I see we have the fair use police here tonight……really?

d1carter on June 17, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Galt’s Gulch.

oscarwilde on June 17, 2014 at 10:46 PM

If Hillary Clinton is elected president in 2016, most Americans say they think she will do a good job handling crucial domestic and international issues, according to a new national poll…

Clinton served as America’s top diplomat during Obama’s first four years in office, so it may not be surprising that some of her best marks in the poll come on overseas issues: 63% say she would do a good job on foreign policy and 61% say the same on terrorism.

But it is notable that 63% say she’d do a good job handling the economy, and 57% believe she’d handle health care well…

Just 38% questioned in the CNN poll say that they approve of how the President’s handling the economy. That’s 25 percentage points lower than the number who think Clinton would do a good job on the economy. Only 40% approve of Obama’s foreign policy, 23 points lower than Clinton.

Bullsh*t. Another poll designed to sway public opinion. Not reflect it.

jawkneemusic on June 17, 2014 at 10:46 PM

US Urges Sri Lanka To Protect Religious Minorities After Buddhist Hardliners Attack Muslims

When’s the last time the Obama administration spoke out against the violence perpetrated by Muslims against minorities like Christians and Jews?

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:45 PM

When are them Amish hardliners going to start kicking ass?

cabra viejo on June 17, 2014 at 10:46 PM

HELL TO PAY – Healy

thatsafactjack on June 17, 2014 at 10:47 PM

4) Obama is leaving a mess. President Obama’s second term is complicating matters significantly for Hillary. His foreign policy, which Clinton helped direct for four years – is adrift.
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Which means, it’ll get double F***ed Up!!

******** Shelter in Place under AQ Attacking the Consulate ******

************ NIGHYMARISH EH ***************************!!

https://twitter.com/CNNPR

CNN Public Relations @CNNPR · 3h

Clinton: If any of us had known there was going to be a wave of attacks, we would’ve cautioned & directed people to shelter in place.

canopfor on June 17, 2014 at 8:15 PM

canopfor on June 17, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Megyn Kelly asked tonight “Is Barack Obama’s Presidency imploding”?

Understatement of the year.

cat_owner on June 17, 2014 at 10:48 PM

On topic. Why is this smiling dwarf ‘inevitable’? I just don’t get it.
DemetriusPhalerum on June 17, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Because CNN and the other pigs in the media say so.

jawkneemusic on June 17, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Dedicated to HonestLib

Newtie and the Beauty on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Hon you’re gonna need to do a mass list to save space soon. Too many friends are dropping like flies. And if anyone decides to take the blog thing seriously I would ask that they also invite the likes of Verbaluce, Libfree and Urban. Real trolls are the only way it would work.

Judge_Dredd on June 17, 2014 at 10:48 PM

thatsafactjack on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

I’m new here, yes, but not new to political blogging. I know how wearying it can be.

It is cozmo’s choice. I just thought that if I threw the part of bluegill getting a twofer in there, it might sway him to stick around.

lineholder on June 17, 2014 at 10:48 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on June 17, 2014 at 10:45 PM

K2 got the hammer, and the gulch comment box is gone. The whole thing smells fishy.

novaculus on June 17, 2014 at 10:49 PM

What is this? Hillary rises from the ashes of Benghazi with nary a scratch?

Isn’t she concerned about how the Muslim firebrands are fighting a war against women? I’m sure that their attitude towards “gay marriage” has not evolved either.

The wide-eyed ingenue with the flapping hands had better seek redress from the plastic surgeon who altered her face. The deer-in-the-headlights looks does not comport with the crepey neck.

onlineanalyst on June 17, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Here are the questions I’d like to see CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC & ABC obssess over:

What is ISIS doing to reduce or offset their carbon footprint?
What is ISIS doing to acheive the appropriate diversity targets in their membership?
Does ISIS support a woman’s right to choose?
How does ISIS implement fair trade practices with their suppliers?
Does ISIS promote sustainability and green practices such as recycling?
What has ISIS done to ensure equal pay for it’s female members?
How many people of color are in the officer ranks of ISIS?
What does ISIS plan to do regarding single payer health insurance and pre-existing conditions for its members?

And most importantly:
Do the rank and file members of ISIS agree that the Washington Redskins should change their name?

Galtian on June 17, 2014 at 10:50 PM

I see we have the fair use police here tonight……really?

d1carter on June 17, 2014 at 10:45 PM

No, just an idiot who obviously has never read Title 17 or worked with it. Having been a Licensed Music Publisher for the last 25 years, I’ve had to be somewhat aware of it. It is painfully obvious he doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about.

oscarwilde on June 17, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Anyone interested in setting up a free forum outside of HA as an alternative to the Gulch, and as a way to be free of prying, unwanted eyes and trolls when wanted? I’ll probably bring this up in tonight’s QOTD, too.

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:03 PM

The Gill-Free Gulch

Have at it, folks!

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM

There are already several such places. Folks just have to decide to use them. RWM has one, Axe has one Bmore has one, and so does this Idiot.

oscarwilde on June 17, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Those are blogs, though, not really forums.

I used to go here years ago. I like their layout. Delphi Forums. I used to go The Lab, also, which split off from Delphi. This software which runs it could be put on someone’s server.

MXBoard is forum software that presents its content using frames; topics and threads list at left and messages display at right.

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM

novaculus on June 17, 2014 at 10:49 PM

WTF?

ARE YOU LISTENING AP AND ED?
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!

annoyinglittletwerp on June 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM

And most importantly:
Do the rank and file members of ISIS agree that the Washington Redskins should change their name?

Galtian on June 17, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Clever.

crankyoldlady on June 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Galtian on June 17, 2014 at 10:50 PM

You forgot one:
What is ISIS doing to reduce microaggressions in the ranks?

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Anyone interested in setting up a free forum outside of HA as an alternative to the Gulch, and as a way to be free of prying, unwanted eyes and trolls when wanted? I’ll probably bring this up in tonight’s QOTD, too.

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:03 PM

non-nonpartisan on June 17, 2014 at 10:35 PM

Good luck with this project. :-)

coolrepublica on June 17, 2014 at 10:52 PM

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