Issa subpoenas IRS commissioner over missing Lerner e-mails

posted at 2:41 pm on June 17, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Let’s just say that Darrell Issa isn’t exactly convinced by the explanation from the IRS over the missing two years of Lois Lerner e-mails. After getting strung along for more than a year, the sudden discovery that a local hard drive failure erased records that should have been stored permanently prompted the House Oversight Chair to issue a subpoena for IRS Commissioner John Koskinen to testify next week on the missing two years of data (via Katie Pavlich):


A House committee probing the IRS targeting scandal has subpoenaed Commissioner John Koskinen to testify over the agency’s claims it cannot locate a trove of emails belonging to Lois Lerner, the former agency official at the heart of the scandal. ….

Rep. Darrell Issa, the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said he is feels the lost email claims are another example of the IRS’ “repeated empty promises of compliance with oversight.”

“I will not tolerate your continued obstruction and game-playing in response to the Committee’s investigation of the IRS targeting,” Issa, R-Calif., said in a letter accompanying the subpoena. “For too long, the IRS has promised to produce requested – and, later, subpoenaed – documents, only to respond later with excuses and inaction.”

Issa subpoenaed Koskinen to appear at a hearing on June 23.

That’s a very tight time frame for a subpoena response. It’s clearly meant as a signal that patience with the IRS’ dilatory responses has come to an abrupt end, at least in the House. The laughably incompetent excuse also has made those tactics clear and given the sharpest indication yet that the IRS and the Obama administration has something to hide. The impact has been to move this from a “phony scandal” back to the headlines, as Politico’s Mackenzie Weinger and Rachel Bade report:

But even some somewhat more neutral observers say the email issue could be a game changer.

Chris Bergin, publisher at the nonprofit Tax Analysts, said in an interview that he always defended the IRS because he thought they just did something “really stupid” when they singled out conservative groups.

But the news over the weekend has changed his entire perspective of the controversy, he said.

“These developments are disturbing. … How do you lose email? Somebody received it right? This is worrisome… and it takes a year for them to tell us?” Bergin said. …

Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey, a conservative blogger, also said IRS’s “Friday afternoon document dump” informing Congress of the emails lost raises eyebrows.

“That makes it look very suspicious, and put together with Lerner’s refusal to testify, even more so,” he said, later adding: “Now we find out that they’re only keeping their own documentation for six months? In the words of ESPN … come on, man.”

The testimony in this case should be entertaining, even if it’s not enlightening, assuming Koskinen appears at all. I’d bet that he’ll be looking for any way out of the mess. If not, there’s at least a slight chance that Koskinen might follow Lerner’s lead and take the Fifth, especially if Congress starts probing whether he committed obstruction of justice with his testimony in March, which failed to include any mention of known hardware issues and six-month loops on backup tapes.

The two years of e-mails aren’t the only things missing in this sorry adventure in abuse of power, Michael Ramirez argues today in his editorial cartoon for Investors Business Daily.

ramirez-irs-missing

True The Vote’s Cleta Mitchell has a question for Koskinen, too. If Lerner really lost her e-mails at the time of her hard drive failure, why didn’t she mention it when complaining about her “lost personal files” — even when mentioning e-mails in a separate context in the same message?


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Can we strap him to the waterboard?

crrr6 on June 17, 2014 at 2:44 PM

That’s a very tight time frame for a subpoena response. It’s clearly meant as a signal that patience with the IRS’ dilatory responses has come to an abrupt end, at least in the House.

Unless this results in someone facing actual jail time or criminal penalties, I don’t see the House’s patience running out at all. Just more posing by Issa for the cameras to impress gullible conservatives.

Doomberg on June 17, 2014 at 2:45 PM

And lets get the IT experts in and see if we can dig the emails up through the servers or whatever.

anotherJoe on June 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Why is this taking so long?

aquaviva on June 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Ya know, I cannot recall when the dems EVER exhibited integrity. Perhaps a glimmer of it in the Truman administration, and maybe the Kennedy administration, but that might be debatable. For the last several decades “integrity” has no place in the party.

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Cummings to be outrageously outraged in 5…4…3

Lsm will focus on his tirade, natch

Can you hear him scream?

cmsinaz on June 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM

+1 Hawkeye

cmsinaz on June 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Hey, IRS, my tax payment is in the mail, but the post office lost it.

HiJack on June 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Can you hear him scream?

cmsinaz on June 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Loud and clear here in South Florida.

katy the mean old lady on June 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Can we strap him to the waterboard?

crrr6 on June 17, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Only if we can clamp on battery cables powered by a light switch as an accessory.

Paging Bryan Mills.

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM

“That makes it look very suspicious, and put together with Lerner’s refusal to testify, even more so,” he said, later adding: “Now we find out that they’re only keeping their own documentation for six months? In the words of ESPN … come on, man.”

Dude, that was, like, six months ago. Not even computers can remember what happened back then. This administration is all about: “Don’t stop thinkin’ about tomorrow, yesterday’s gone.”

Socratease on June 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

And here in AZ Katy :)

cmsinaz on June 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Didn’t Elija Cummings tell us this investigation was all wrapped up and should be done? Imagine his surprise on hearing about these missing emails.

butch on June 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Waiting on everdisco to come and tell us why this is nothing but another ‘distraction’ and ‘phony scandal’…

bimmcorp on June 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Issa (the Oversight Committee) should have the Sargent-at-Arms of the House put the commissioner in the House jail until the IRS complies.

J_Crater on June 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM

I’d subpoena the IRS’ chief IT person AND his assistant. With only one person testifying all they will get is “I don’t know. That’s what I was told by the IT person yesterday.”

Fred 2 on June 17, 2014 at 2:52 PM

No Wonder the IRS Is ‘Losing’ E-mails: It Was Trying to Throw Innocent Conservatives in Jail

By David French

Even a small child can connect these dots.

The IRS is announcing the “loss” of mass numbers of e-mails (do they have any computers that don’t crash?) even as the e-mails that do exist are beginning to show the extent of IRS corruption. Let’s take this exchange (previously uncovered by Judicial Watch) between Lois Lerner, the director of exempt organizations at the IRS, and Nikole Flax, then the IRS commissioner’s chief of staff. (To be clear, these are not “low level” employees.)

First, here’s Lerner on May 8, 2013, literally two days before last year’s fake apology for IRS tea-party targeting:

I got a call today from Richard Pilger Director Elections Crimes Branch at DOJ. I know him from contacts from my days there. He wanted to know who at IRS the DOJ folks could talk to about [Rhode Island Democrat] Sen. Whitehouse idea at the hearing that DOJ could piece together false statement cases about applicants who “lied” on their 1024s –saying they weren’t planning on doing political activity, and then turning around and making large visible political expenditures. DOJ is feeling like it needs to respond, but want to talk to the right folks at IRS to see whether there are impediments from our side and what, if any damage this might do to IRS programs.

I told him that sounded like we might need several folks from IRS. I am out of town all next week, so wanted to reach out and see who you think would be right for such a meeting and also hand this off to Nan as contact person if things need to happen while I am gone –

Translation: The Obama Justice Department was reaching out to the Obama IRS to see if it could “piece together” prosecutions of nonprofits even before any evidence of wrongdoing emerged.

And how did Nikole Flax respond? By suggesting that even more federal agencies get involved:

I think we should do it – also need to include CI, which we can help coordinate. Also, we need to reach out to FEC. Does it make sense to consider including them in this or keep it separate?

In other words, rather than asking the DOJ whether it possessed any evidence of wrongdoing by American citizens engaged in constitutionally protected activities, two senior officials in the Obama IRS (including one, Lois Lerner, who “joked” about wanting to work for Organizing For Action, also known as BarackObama.com) pushed forward the effort to launch a multi-agency criminal probe, involving even the FEC. Oh, and keep in mind that this e-mail exchange occurred literally years after the IRS claimed it had ended all tea-party targeting.

And in the last few days we learn the IRS has “lost” e-mails from — among others — Lois Lerner and Nicole Flax. What a remarkable coincidence.

The scale of the wrongdoing is staggering. Targeting Americans for criminal investigation without evidence, attempting to enlist multiple federal agencies in the effort, selective audits, selective disclosures of confidential documents, selective questioning and delays of nonprofit applicants — all in the service of suppressing dissent. At the ACLJ, I’m one of the attorneys in our litigation — on behalf of 41 conservative groups in 22 states — against the IRS and key IRS officials.

As of today, we’re putting the DOJ, FEC, and even key Democratic senators on notice: They’re bound by law to preserve any communications with IRS officials that would be discoverable in our lawsuit.

The administration’s misconduct and its cover-up are so brazen, so contemptuous of common sense and the truth, that they will — once and for all — put the media and the Left to the test: When it comes to this administration, does the rule of law matter at all? Does the truth matter at all? Or is it all about ideology now?

I know how they’ll respond, and I fear for the future of our democracy. They fight us today — by virtually any means necessary — so their government of the Left, by the Left, and for the Left shall not perish from the Earth.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 2:52 PM

GOP witch hunt!
-Cummings

cmsinaz on June 17, 2014 at 2:52 PM

How about subpoena a random half-dozen IT guys at the IRS? They have the answers, right? And give them 1 day to prepare. No need for more when it’s backup background that’s needed.

Surellin on June 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM

He will refuse to show. Bet on it.

Any attempt at oversight of the Boy Wonder’s Regime is clearly RAAAAACIST!!!!

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM

I’m looking forward to the tax audit where I can shrug my shoulders and say, “Eh. I kept those records for 6 months, same as you. Afterwards, I shredded them as unimportant and irrelevant. So whatcha gonna do?!?!?!?!”

ladyingray on June 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Why is this taking so long?

aquaviva on June 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM

The House Republicans don’t want to actually have to do anything about this, same way they dropped Fast and Furious and every other major criminal act Obama’s committed during his administration. They just regard it as a way to knock Obama down in the polls a bit but otherwise seem fine with this sort of behavior.

Doomberg on June 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

How about subpoena a random half-dozen IT guys at the IRS? They have the answers, right? And give them 1 day to prepare. No need for more when it’s backup background that’s needed.

Surellin on June 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Telling the truth requires no rehearsal.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Hire a private forensic team Issa !

burrata on June 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

“That makes it look very suspicious, and put together with Lerner’s refusal to testify, even more so,” he said, later adding: “Now we find out that they’re only keeping their own documentation for six months? In the words of ESPN … come on, man.”

Dude, that was, like, six months ago. Not even computers can remember what happened back then. This administration is all about: “Don’t stop thinkin’ about tomorrow, yesterday’s gone.”

Socratease on June 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

In other words: FORWARD!

yaedon on June 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Missing.

Yes.

Bmore on June 17, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Apparently an entire bay of the DC swamp was missed when the demorats drained it.

Bishop on June 17, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Obama lies without any guilt.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 17, 2014 at 2:57 PM

The Koran teaches the belivers in isalam that there is not guilt to lie to the infidels.

2 + 2 =’s 4 for sure.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM

The testimony in this case should be entertaining, even if it’s not enlightening, assuming Koskinen appears at all. I’d bet that he’ll be looking for any way out of the mess. If not, there’s at least a slight chance that Koskinen might follow Lerner’s lead and take the Fifth, especially if Congress starts probing whether he committed obstruction of justice with his testimony in March, which failed to include any mention of known hardware issues and six-month loops on backup tapes.

What possible justification could he have for not appearing? He slipped and fell like Hillary? And I hope he takes the fifth. The IRS Commissioner refusing to testify would practically be an admission of guilt.

Doughboy on June 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Nothing would make me happier than seeing Lerner sitting in a jail cell deciding whether she wants to talk. Tell the whole truth and she is out.

Tater Salad on June 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM

How about subpoena a random half-dozen IT guys at the IRS? They have the answers, right? And give them 1 day to prepare. No need for more when it’s backup background that’s needed.

Surellin on June 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Eff that, the phone calls would be flying.

Appear in their cubes, snap the cuffs on, and inform them that it’s time to appear before a federal committee with the power to indict on charges that will get them a stint in Leavenworth.

Dudes would be blabbing before even reaching the elevators.

Bishop on June 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Does anyone believe these bastards anymore?

CatoRenasci on June 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM

“Tight time frame”? I was kinda hoping Issa would drive to Koskinen’s office and haul him back to testify this afternoon. I’m with everyone else who’s wondering why this is taking so long.

ajb3 on June 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Put somebody the House jail cell until the email are recovered. It really is that simple.

Wasn’t Commish Koskinen the one who testified last time it would take “two years” to get together all of Lois Lerner’s emails? Seems “two years” has morphed into “never”…

HornHiAceDeuce on June 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM

The IT guys were erasing all of the porn sites they were following and the emails just fell in.

docflash on June 17, 2014 at 3:03 PM

Throw Lerner in jail.

Issa subpoenas IRS commissioner over missing Lerner e-mails

I assume the horse’s ass that runs the IRS will take the fifth too?

Mark Boabaca on June 17, 2014 at 3:03 PM

Telling the truth requires no rehearsal.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Reminds me of that scene in Glengarry Glen Ross:

“The truth, George. Always tell the truth. It’s the easiest thing to remember.” – Ricky Roma

Doughboy on June 17, 2014 at 3:04 PM

Two commissioners in a row taking the 5th?

Boy howdy, Dog Eater is going to have to bomb a hell of a lot of people.

Bishop on June 17, 2014 at 3:04 PM

If they walked the IRS commissioner out of the hearing to JAIL, they would have the emails before he arrived at the jail.

Congress needs to get serious with these folks and start putting some of them in JAIL for their lies, let along their felonies!

KenInIL on June 17, 2014 at 3:04 PM

They now come for your land, your gold, your family, to your camp at night while your fighting men are in Iraq and Afganistain.

The IRS is the iceberg that rips a hole in one side of the Constitution, the open borders the iceberg that rips a hole in the other side of the Constitution.

These icebergs bought and paid for by the two party evil money cult in Washington D.C..

They seek to confine you/U.S. all on a coast to coast reservation where they control the health care, the law, the food, the old dirty goverment blankets for all of U.S. now.

All of U.S. are the New Apache, ask any Apache how it ends up.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 17, 2014 at 3:04 PM

[burrata on June 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM]

Maybe we should give Snowden administrator access to the IRS computers. I’ll bet he finds them and a whole lot else besides.

Dusty on June 17, 2014 at 3:04 PM

“Executive Priviladge” will say Eric Holder backed up by Obama’s pen.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 17, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Seagate should sue Lyin’ Lois, Ogabe, IRS hoodlums and their old media presstitutes for libel, slander and defamation of their well-known to be reliable data storage products.

viking01 on June 17, 2014 at 3:08 PM

Again…mysteriously leftist-free thread…I just don’t get it.

GAY MARRIAGE!

*tumbleweeds*

What gives?

Bishop on June 17, 2014 at 3:12 PM

from now on they should just say “nope, were not going to give you anything. What are you going to do about it?”

phatfawzi on June 17, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Bishop on June 17, 2014 at 3:12 PM

truth:leftists garlic:vampires

Mark Boabaca on June 17, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Didn’t Elija Cummings tell us this investigation was all wrapped up and should be done? Imagine his surprise on hearing about these missing emails.

butch on June 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM

When a horse’s ass is called for, the Democratics can always rely on Cummings.

slickwillie2001 on June 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM

None of this matters, really. In case y’all have not noticed, the Obama Cartel has NEVER been held to account for ANY lie, felony, misdeed or other malfeasance of office. And they never will. Obama controls the Senate, the SCOTUS, the DOJ, the CIA, the NSA, the media AND the GOG.

We are simply the last top know that we no longer live in a Constitutional Republic. We will find out when there is no presidential election held in 2016. Maybe before, if the citizens finally get smart and revolt.

Otherwise, things are going as planned for Valerie Jarrett, Barack Obama and the rest of the Islamic leaders. Prepare to renounce your faith or to have your head separated from your body. It’s almost that time…It’s all in the Bible…

bimmcorp on June 17, 2014 at 3:19 PM

DESPITE THE “MISSING” EMAILS, NEWS IS STILL COMING OUT: “In fact, the documents showed Lerner wanted to make an example out of someone with charges in order to chill all of the groups in the tea party movement.”

From Insta.

Hear that cracking sound, you leftist trash, sooner or later it’s going to break under your boy.

Bishop on June 17, 2014 at 3:20 PM

‘gog’ should be GOP,

bimmcorp on June 17, 2014 at 3:20 PM

We have heard outrage over these so-called lost emails from Republicans on the oversight committee and those not on the committee. When are going to hear any outrage from Democrats on the oversight committee or those not on the committee. There is a deafening silence from all Democrats.

SC.Charlie on June 17, 2014 at 3:21 PM

How about subpoena a random half-dozen IT guys at the IRS? They have the answers, right? And give them 1 day to prepare. No need for more when it’s backup background that’s needed.

Surellin on June 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Eff that, the phone calls would be flying.

Appear in their cubes, snap the cuffs on, and inform them that it’s time to appear before a federal committee with the power to indict on charges that will get them a stint in Leavenworth.

Dudes would be blabbing before even reaching the elevators.

Bishop on June 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Which is nice to think about, but will never be done. It’s taken this long to get a really dumb lie out from them and Issa’s going to pick his nose for awhile and then it will go away.

The GOP are actively disinterested in doing a darn thing.

This will fall to the wayside like everything else because no one holds anyone accountable.

The public should be the ones gearing up the pitchforks and torches, but they’re too busy watching Honey Boo Boo and waiting for their entitlements.

kim roy on June 17, 2014 at 3:21 PM

Boehner needs to arrest her now. He does not have to wait for DOJ.

Cindy Munford on June 17, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Fearless prediction:

Once they find emails connecting the WH and Congress requests those documents, Obama will slap a “Executive Privilege” right on it faster than you can say “Chicago Politics”.

WisRich on June 17, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Seagate should sue Lyin’ Lois, Ogabe, IRS hoodlums and their old media presstitutes for libel, slander and defamation of their well-known to be reliable data storage products.

viking01 on June 17, 2014 at 3:08 PM

Only brand of hard drives that I buy.

Knowing the Feds they probably still buy Dell shiite. I use HP.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 3:24 PM

The House Republicans don’t want to actually have to do anything about this, same way they dropped Fast and Furious and every other major criminal act Obama’s committed during his administration. They just regard it as a way to knock Obama down in the polls a bit but otherwise seem fine with this sort of behavior.

Doomberg on June 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

On the slim chance that they ever recover some majority power, these fools hope to employ these same tactics with zero blowback like the dems enjoy. It doesn’t work that way in opposite world.

Jeffster on June 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Just got back from the Huffington Post and didn’t see any of these IRS developments anywhere. So, must be a non-story.

crrr6 on June 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Once they find emails connecting the WH and Congress requests those documents, Obama will slap a “Executive Privilege” right on it faster than you can say “Chicago Politics”.

WisRich on June 17, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Such a claim would be an admission of complicity. Which is why they had Lerner plead the fifth and then smashed the servers.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM

No point in arresting anyone now. Zero will just pardon them all. Let Lerner and the rest of this swine twist in the wind until after the 2016 election and after Zero makes all of his pardons, then arrest them all and let them spend the rest of their miserable, corrupt lives in a federal prison — watching Barry and his grifter wife sipping mai-tais in Hawaii.

Rational Thought on June 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM

That’s funny because them disappearing in a crash is already an admission of complicity for me.

Cindy Munford on June 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Based on Issa’s track record investigating this administration, I’m not holding my breath.

worldtvlr on June 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Rational Thought on June 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM

From what I understand the House will have to site her for contempt at every new Congress. Shouldn’t be too hard.

Cindy Munford on June 17, 2014 at 3:31 PM

A House committee probing the IRS targeting scandal has subpoenaed Commissioner John Koskinen to testify over the agency’s claims it cannot locate a trove of emails belonging to Lois Lerner, the former agency official at the heart of the scandal.

What’s the point of asking him to testify. He doesn’t know s*** about e-mail servers and computers. He’ll just repeat the talking points and refer any detailed questions to technicians.

PackerBronco on June 17, 2014 at 3:32 PM

The most selective and surprisingly convenient virus ever to strike the IRS syndicate was known to all as Conf*cker StuxsmidgeonNet.

Please note: Issaware has been a proven failure in trying to control this virus.

StubbornGreenBurros on June 17, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Such a claim would be an admission of complicity. Which is why they had Lerner plead the fifth and then smashed the servers.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM

That didn’t stop them in Fast & Furious now did it.

They don’t care. Really, they don’t.

WisRich on June 17, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Based on Issa’s track record investigating this administration, I’m not holding my breath.

worldtvlr on June 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM

This. Not exactly a stellar track record given all the opportunity.

SteveInRTP on June 17, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Subpoena the servers, get real IT guys to retrieve the data. Cuffs and ankle bracelets on everyone involved. A neon orange jump suit for Lois.

Yankee Doodle on June 17, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Just got back from the Huffington Post and didn’t see any of these IRS developments anywhere. So, must be a non-story.

crrr6 on June 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM

That’s above and beyond the call of duty!! My hat’s off for your bravery and your willingness to go where few have gone before…

bimmcorp on June 17, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Nothing would make me happier than seeing Lerner sitting in a jail cell deciding whether she wants to talk. Tell the whole truth and she is out.

Tater Salad on June 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM

How about Barry and Big Mooch spending the rest of their days on earth in prison?

justltl on June 17, 2014 at 3:55 PM

This is getting to the point where someone – not sure who – is going to have to do something. These a$$holes need to go to jail. Fluking leftist scumbags. the all deserve the end of a rope – tree included.

HomeoftheBrave on June 17, 2014 at 3:58 PM

If they really want answers, subpoena the hard-drive and the I.T. people. I don’t believe the I.T. people will be as anxious to lie as Obama appointees.

bflat879 on June 17, 2014 at 4:00 PM

It’s not criminal if you know the controlling legal authority won’t prosecute you for it.

- Progressive Thinking

fadetogray on June 17, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Issa is a joke. Seems he’s only capable of issuing subpoenas, not actually doing anything. Another useless politician.

lonestar1 on June 17, 2014 at 4:00 PM

“I will not tolerate your continued obstruction and game-playing in response to the Committee’s investigation of the IRS targeting,” Issa, R-Calif., said in a letter accompanying the subpoena.

Yes you will, Darrell. Yes you will.

jbspry on June 17, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Issa is good at getting his face on the news, but what has come of these investigations?

clnurnberg on June 17, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Don’t tell me, another Contempt of Congress…?

d1carter on June 17, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Why not fight fire with fire??

Send in a Congressionally-Authorized SWAT team with Subpoena in hand to confiscate all of the IRS computers and haul them off for forensic analysis!!

/wet_dream>

landlines on June 17, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Yes you will, Darrell. Yes you will.

jbspry on June 17, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Of course he will. The IRS Commissioner should not be allowed to walk out of the Capitol building without supplying ALL the requested information. The hearing should be held in front of the WHOLE HOUSE and contempt proceedings with arrest and incarceration in the Capitol Jail should be immediate.

Of course the gutless Issa and Boner won’t stand for that. This is all a dog and pony show meant to deceive people into thinking the Republican Establishment cares about IRS abuses when of course they actually support it.

There is only one party in DC. The DC Party.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 4:12 PM

The IRS is doing what it’s Master wants…it is a rogue agency.

d1carter on June 17, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Why not fight fire with fire??

Send in a Congressionally-Authorized SWAT team with Subpoena in hand to confiscate all of the IRS computers and haul them off for forensic analysis!!

/wet_dream>

landlines on June 17, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Seems to me that Congress has just as much right to set up a SWAT team as the Department of Education.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Every day I despise the American People more for having reelected this gang of criminals.

Two years and seven months to go, and what will the Voters do next? Probably elect another obvious crook.

fadetogray on June 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM

No way are these emails 100% gone. Interesting – the data they used to go after “True the Vote” was all there as was data for so many other conservative groups.

My base question, though, How come nobody inside the IRS is leaking info? When Rs are in charge, half the US govt is a sieve; Dems, nobody talks? Just remember, those of you staying quiet – they will use you then toss you under the bus. Remember what happened to our president’s grandparents? They became non-entities.

MN J on June 17, 2014 at 4:15 PM

How about subpoena a random half-dozen IT guys at the IRS? They have the answers, right? And give them 1 day to prepare. No need for more when it’s backup background that’s needed.

Surellin on June 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM

A hell of a lot of people are wondering this. Going after the made guys who know they are protected doesn’t seem likely to get results. They need to squeeze the small guys who are less trained in the art of bull sh!tt!ng and who actually know about computers.

Dongemaharu on June 17, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Heh. Darrell “The Closer” Issa.

bofh on June 17, 2014 at 4:33 PM

My base question, though, How come nobody inside the IRS is leaking info? When Rs are in charge, half the US govt is a sieve; Dems, nobody talks?

The leeches at the IRS are self-preserving. They (foolishly, at this point) believe that a Republican Administration = small government, and so there will be massive layoffs and pay cuts. It’s really not surprising that a bloated bureaucratic instrument like the IRS is going to bend over backwards to help the party that is all about making the bureaucracy even bigger and more powerful.

This is why Conservatives will always lose to centralization and must be constantly vigilant to slow or reverse that centralization as much as possible.

TarasBulbous on June 17, 2014 at 4:39 PM

……………….just had a ‘vision’…………………thousands and thousands of empty envelopes arriving at the IRS all containing the same short note:

When Yall “FIND” Your missing emails – We’ll “FIND” our checkbooks!”

Katfish on June 17, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Heh. Darrell “The Closer” Issa.

bofh on June 17, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Coffee is for closers. Put.that.coffee.down.

Dongemaharu on June 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Screw the subpoena. Send in the US Marshals to seize all their email servers and back ups.

Dexter_Alarius on June 17, 2014 at 4:54 PM

You can’t even stick these people with a parking ticket.
What they are saying is that, “Yes we know we did wrong but we think that with the help of the WH and NSA we think that we got rid of all evidence and there is nothing you can do about it”.

Well not quite right. We The People can still fire any and all people involved in creating, supporting and nurturing this culture of crime, corruption and loathing of the common man.

We do not need the proofs of law for criminal actions. We need but a reasonable belief in the complicity in a crime to act at the voting booths.

We The People have 2014 and 2016 after which it will be to late for the United States of America. She can not take much more of this abuse.

It matters not if your congressman was the best for your district. You are part of “We The People” and must recognize your responsibilities to all.

jpcpt03 on June 17, 2014 at 4:55 PM

I am not sure I am interested in Issa catching any more big fish, I would be happy if low level IRS employees and other department go betweens lost their jobs and were charged and convicted. I know this allows the big fish to skate, but I like the idea of the underlings that look up to democrats and do their bidding, finding that if you do the bidding of these liberals you get hung out to dry. And fried, if necessary. I say lets take it out on the underlings, because it will feel good.

So, I mixed my metaphors, a fish without a bicycle is like a donkey on ice.

Fleuries on June 17, 2014 at 4:58 PM

In the civil cases if Lois pleads the 5th she’s presumed guilty.

Schadenfreude on June 17, 2014 at 5:06 PM

If Lois Lerner had really lost 2 1/2 years of e-mails, wouldn’t she have lost a bunch of e-mails that she actually needed to do her job? You’d think there would be a bunch of correspondence about that later. Even if it was something like, “Can anyone help me find my February 2010 correspondence about denying 501(c)(4) status to a Tea Party group? I have another Tea Party application to deny and I want to use the same reasons that I did that time, but I can’t find the e-mails about it.”

J.S.K. on June 17, 2014 at 5:09 PM

subpoena the Director of the NSA. Bet he’s got a copy of everything.

GarandFan on June 17, 2014 at 5:26 PM

I breathlessly await Rachel Maddow’s indepth exposé of the criminal activities in the Republican-lead IRS.

Wait, what?

Oh. Never mind.

nukemhill on June 17, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Bring in the front-line email (likely MS Excahange) administrators.

Grill them as to where the backups are or what they were commanded to do with them.

Threaten them like no other (prison “rear-entry” maneuvers) and the IT nerds will fold.

This is so easy it’s ridiculous.

Carnac on June 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Once they find emails connecting the WH and Congress requests those documents, Obama will slap a “Executive Privilege” right on it faster than you can say “Chicago Politics”.

WisRich on June 17, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Such a claim would be an admission of complicity. Which is why they had Lerner plead the fifth and then smashed the servers.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Thats right. Exec. Pri. only applies to activity that directly involves the President.

BobMbx on June 17, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Bring in the front-line email (likely MS Excahange) administrators.

Grill them as to where the backups are or what they were commanded to do with them.

Threaten them like no other (prison “rear-entry” maneuvers) and the IT nerds will fold.

This is so easy it’s ridiculous.

Carnac on June 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Better yet. Subpoena the entire IRS. Start the hearings with the people who worked with, for, and near Lerner. Move to the IT crowd. Get the conference room logs, the sign-in logs from her building, requests for teleconference and web-based meeting services. Get her phone records (we all know they exist) and interrogate the people she called, and the people who called her. Etc..

Bring the hammer. Somebody will talk.

BobMbx on June 17, 2014 at 6:26 PM

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