IRS tells GOP committee: We’ve lost e-mails from six more employees involved in scandal

posted at 1:21 pm on June 17, 2014 by Allahpundit

And all of them, apparently, were lost in computer crashes. That’s novel. Normally, when an agency doesn’t want to comply with a document request, it simply lies by claiming that no such document exists.

I’ll spare you a click and Voxsplain this one right here: Clearly the answer is to increase the IRS’s budget, so that they can afford more reliable PCs.

Seriously, though, who’s getting fired?

It’s not just Lois Lerner’s e-mails. The Internal Revenue Service says it can’t produce e-mails from six more employees involved in the targeting of conservative groups, according to two Republicans investigating the scandal.

The IRS told Ways and Means chairman Dave Camp and subcommittee chairman Charles Boustany that computer crashes resulted in additional lost e-mails, including from Nikole Flax, the chief of staff to former IRS commissioner Steven Miller, who was fired in the wake of the targeting scandal.

The revelation about Lerner’s e-mails rekindled the scandal and today’s news has further inflamed Republicans. Camp and Boustany are now demanding a special prosecutor to investigate “every angle” of the targeting. They expressed particular outrage that the agency has known since February that it would not be able to produce the e-mails requested by the committee yet did not apprise the committee of that fact, and they charged in a statement that the IRS is attempting to “cover up the fact that it convenient lost key documents in the investigation.”

Show of hands: When was the last time your computer crashed so hard that important data — e-mails, specifically — were lost and couldn’t be retrieved? I’ve used PCs and Macs every day for the past eight years, for 12 hours a day or more during weekdays, and I can’t remember experiencing something like that. It’s an “Internet 2001″ problem, not “Internet 2011,” especially given how cheap and ubiquitous back-up drives are today — and yet it happened to the IRS, apparently, no fewer than seven times, as recently as three years ago. And by the way, why are IRS e-mails being saved locally to employees’ hard drives instead of to a central server, a la e-mail programs like Gmail? The agency is required by statute to preserve records; the easiest way to do that for e-mail would be to store everything in a central cloud. Why doesn’t the IRS do that?

Or … do they? Here’s what Bryan Preston found out when he spoke to a former IRS IT specialist about the agency’s protocols:

“These environments were required by federal regulations to be redundant and recoverable,” the former IRS IT worker says. “The recoverability requirements were put into place for exactly the reasons we see today.” Disposal of records outside the statutory standards requires permission in writing.

He says that the IRS uses Microsoft Outlook/Exchange systems, which are backed up using Symantec NetBackup…

The former IRS IT worker adds that in his time on the prime contract, “I have worked for many federal agencies and the IRS had some of the best people.”

“This reason is why I scoff at the story being put out. Those folks would not have had such a short retention period for email unless they had it in writing from the highest levels. It would have made the local IT water cooler gossip if the IRS had screwed up and lost tons of email by accident.”

Is there any contemporaneous evidence that corroborates the computer-crash explanation? There is in Lois Lerner’s case: The IRS produced an e-mail exchange from 2011 in which Lerner and an IT person discussed the damage to her hard drive. If they were dealing with a plague of crashes, though, in which seven people or more lost data due to computer failures, there should also be contemporaneous evidence of the IT department noticing that the problem was systemic. Is there any? Hard to believe people at the IRS, of all places, would have shrugged at seeing potentially important data on multiple hard drives going up in smoke.

Either the IRS’s IT department is miserably incompetent, in which case lots of people should be fired, or the data destruction is deliberate, in which case lots of people should go to jail. Over to you, Ron Fournier. Exit question: Did anyone not connected to the targeting of conservative nonprofits lose any e-mails or is this curious string of bad luck confined to the principal players?


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Prison is too good for them.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Fake Scandal.

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Del Dolemonte on June 17, 2014 at 1:24 PM

But I bet not a single piece of information used to demand payment of questionable tax bills has been lost…

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 1:24 PM

IRS tells GOP committee: We’ve lost e-mails from six more employees involved in scandal

Thieves, liars.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 17, 2014 at 1:25 PM

It’s special prosecutor time. (Never will happen, unfortunately.)

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on June 17, 2014 at 1:25 PM

The tactic is being repeated and extended, because it obviously works. The State-controlled media will cover for them, and the Institutional Republicans probably are in on it from their silence.

The Rule of Law and the Constitution are gone. As are the social and political contracts.

Subotai Bahadur on June 17, 2014 at 1:25 PM

How convenient.

31giddyup on June 17, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Somebody go and get Everclear from the Benghazi thread so he/she can tell us his is a non-scandal.

Johnnyreb on June 17, 2014 at 1:25 PM

The NSA says it has them but can not release them because of privacy concerns.

Sven on June 17, 2014 at 1:25 PM

I think my tax returns were on one of those computers!!!…

PatriotRider on June 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Trying to force Republican hands. To impeach or not to impeach? That is the question.

But the GoPe doesn’t care about conservatives. So who knows what will happen.

And in the meantime, Iraq is ablaze, South
America is a disaster, our southern border is under attack and Obama golfs.

njrob on June 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM

But I bet not a single piece of information used to demand payment of questionable tax bills has been lost…

Doc Holliday on June 17, 2014 at 1:24 PM

And several agencies have every butt dial of every American for the last decade recorded on several hard drives…probably have paper back ups as well.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Why not. The GOP is weak and afraid.

faraway on June 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Show of hands: When was the last time your computer crashed so hard that important data — e-mails, specifically — were lost and couldn’t be retrieved?

Me. But that’s because IT put out a bad upgrade that wiped my hard drive. It was a software failure, not a hardware failure.

But I didn’t lose any of my emails, because those are stored on a server. And I keep important files on the network server. Because it gets backed up. And at home I have a third, external drive.

If you assume that this is true, then the IRS is not complying with records retention that it requires you to maintain.

rbj on June 17, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Man that dog sure is HUNGRY!!!

geojed on June 17, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Not one sane person believes that e-mails are not forever.

In the least the NSA has a copy of all of them.

But, there are so many other copies.

Schadenfreude on June 17, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Heh

Schadenfreude on June 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Would “rope and a tall tree” be too strong a sentiment?

glockomatic on June 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Here’s a suggestion. Everyone don’t pay their taxes this year. When the IRS comes aknockin’, just tell them that sometimes stuff just happens.

On a slightly more serious note, every single member of the IRS IT department needs to be dragged in front of a Congressional committee and be grilled on this. Obviously they’re lying, but get them on the record under oath. Something tells me lowly IT people aren’t going to risk perjury and prison to protect scum like Lois Lerner and the Democrat Party and White House operatives she was clearly colluding with.

Doughboy on June 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM

I blame him

Schadenfreude on June 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM

IRS: “However Mr. Chairman we do have available 2 years of emails from Brian Dunklemeyer”

Chairman: “Who?”

IRS: “Exactly.”

clippermiami on June 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM

All Cincinnati rogue employees…..with rogue computers.

d1carter on June 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM

America is a disaster, our southern border is under attack and Obama golfs.

njrob on June 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM

All is going accordingly, then. So he golfs.

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Seriously, though, who’s getting fired?

No one. Anyone who is ‘fired’ will simply turn up somewhere else in the administration, or will get another job working in one of Obama’s political organization. Because why hold people accountable when you can transform screw-ups into pawns who do the dirty work for you?

Aizen on June 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM

‘You’ve never heard of a computer crashing before? I think it’s entirely reasonable because it’s the truth and it’s a fact. And speculation otherwise I think is indicative of conspiracies that are propagated in a way that left people with a disinformation about exactly what occurred. So a good-faith effort has been made by the IRS to cooperate with congressional oversight. The far-fetched skepticism expressed by some Republican members of Congress is not at all surprising and not particularly believable.’

- Josh Earnest, White House Press Secretary

What’s not ‘particularly believable’ is that the Federal government ‘lost’ the emails of seven people that are under investigation for targeting the political enemies of the Democratic Party even though it has the history of every keystroke that I’ve made since 2009.

So, yes, Josh, there’s a conspiracy all right, but it ain’t a theory.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 1:30 PM

They are so bold because they know they won’t be held accountable.

And any lefties will refuse to comment in this thread or pretend this isn’t happening in any other thread because deep down they like fascism and tyranny.

gwelf on June 17, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Dear Congress,

Lois Lerner’s e-mail-eating dog was pregnant and had puppies. Gee, but they’re hungry! Their favorite kibbles are Maxtor and Raptor brands.

Sincerely yours,

IRS

PS Send more kibble, please! Gosh but we’re running awful low

Newtie and the Beauty on June 17, 2014 at 1:30 PM

This fake scandal must be really bad…

d1carter on June 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Pretty soon some frontier justice is going to blow into DC.

tim c on June 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM

…troll free!

JugEarsButtHurt on June 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM

“Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: ‘Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action’.”
― Ian Fleming, Goldfinger

When it’s now 7 times…. it’s a deliberate and concentrated effort to destroy / deny existence of evidence that highlights the criminal abuses of power undertaken by this Administration.

They have the emails.

They know the emails, like Nixon’s tapes, are devastating to the Administration. They also know that the Holder DoJ will not pursue any criminal investigation and the GOP House is too feckless to push this further. But the worse these lies get, the more Democrats are going to start deciding that their careers are more important than defending the worst President in US history.

This is moving into the grounds of a farce. Three year olds can tell better lies than these idiots.

If they think this is going to disappear and stall, I think the IRS / Administration officials are greatly underestimating how far ideological loyalty goes.

Athos on June 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM

. Exit question: Did anyone not connected to the targeting of conservative nonprofits lose any e-mails or is this curious string of bad luck confined to the principal players?

Let’s see those help desk tickets.

talkingpoints on June 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM

These emails lead right to the White House General Counsel Office.

pat on June 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 1:30 PM

“Most transparent administration ever” has been taking on new meaning lately, yes? ;-)

Gee, next we’re going to hear that the hard drives crashed/were replaced because of a worm…trojan…virus…corrupted files…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 17, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Sen. Tim Scott nailed this one

lineholder on June 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

So, the White House was involved……………..

d1carter on June 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

The obvious choice of the inquisitors would be the IT department of the IRS. If the Congress would hire the best IT people they can find and then go after the IRS technicians we would have some real data to go on. The IT people are not part of any conspiracy to go after conservative groups so they would be much less likely to stonewall.

inspectorudy on June 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

This is BS, they need to subpoena the IT department who is responsible for these servers. IRS staff would not be smart enough to know how to permanently delete e-mails without the help of IT folks.

IT surely would be able to explain how this could have happened to the satisfaction of industry experts? Would be more helpful than the WH spokesman’s comment.

tej on June 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

SUBPOENA THE IRS EXCHANGE ADMIN

crrr6 on June 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

I’ve actually lost local hard drives on my computer at work, twice.

But I’ve never lost an email, because they’re backed up on the server, duh.

Bat Chain Puller on June 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Eric Holder is the final firewall in all this. For now. Without penalties, the perps can giggle all the way to retirement.

butch on June 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM

And by the way, why are IRS e-mails being saved locally to employees’ hard drives

They’re not. They are lying. And why not? NOTHING will be done about it.

LtGenRob on June 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Here’s a suggestion. Everyone don’t pay their taxes this year. When the IRS comes aknockin’, just tell them that sometimes stuff just happens.

Doughboy on June 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM

I sent em. They must have lost the records in one of their frequent computer crashes.

talkingpoints on June 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM

I’ve got a $3 bill with Bill Clinton’s face on it that is more authentic than this story. There is no way that they just happen to “lose” the emails, only for those that were involved in this.

If Congress does get a special prosecutor and the person does his/her job, there will be some people that will be doing the perp walk.

Not only that, I would supoena the IT people in this. Get them in front of congress with a threat of jail time, and they will fold like a house of cards.

I still do not think that Lerner is the most sr person involved in this. I think it still goes higher up.

ConservativePartyNow on June 17, 2014 at 1:37 PM

actually this is making all of this easier- everyone that has “lost” emails is guilty. Just let the emails keep getting “lost” and see just how far up the food chain it goes

whatabunchoflosers on June 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

What is in those emails that is so damaging they are willing to face multiple obstruction charges?

talkingpoints on June 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM


Pretty soon some frontier justice is going to blow into DC.

tim c on June 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Oh, this SOOOoooo needs to happen. Someone needs to be dropped like a sack-o-potatoes – into the clink. I like the rope and a tall tree, though….

HomeoftheBrave on June 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Would “rope and a tall tree” be too strong a sentiment?

glockomatic on June 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Like you pulled the words right off of my tongue…

JohnGalt23 on June 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

It doesn’t matter what happened to Lerner’s PC. Since they’re using MS Exchange, every email she ever wrote, including drafts, is sitting on that server. I know this because my company uses Exchange and I can access my emails from my work computer, home computer, and iPhone. All of them see the same data because it is all on the server.

Occams Stubble on June 17, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Okay, so – when are those obama IMPEACHMENT hearings scheduled to begin?

Pork-Chop on June 17, 2014 at 1:39 PM

This is nothing but bullshit, criminal behavior. Some folks need to be in jail by the end of the day.

Just *try* this kind of bullshit when on the receiving end of an IRS audit – I *dare* you. Every damn one of us would be *ruined* financially, professional, and undoubtedly in jail for tax evasion and fraud.

Midas on June 17, 2014 at 1:39 PM

The 2016 GOP platform must include “ABOLISH THE IRS” to have a chance of re-gaining any support from me, ever again. It’s a winning issue, on both sides. DO IT.

Harbingeing on June 17, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Not one smidgen of corruption or malfeasance….

This is an Administration that is more Nixonian than Nixon’s – and they’ve learned the lessons from Watergate well….

These emails lead right to the White House General Counsel Office.

pat on June 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM

A number of them absolutely do – and from there into Obama’s inner circle.

Let’s remember that this is the Agency that will raid your bank account for funds that are due from two or three decades ago – and the excuse that the documentation was lost, misplaced, destroyed in a hard drive crash never ever works. To this Agency, one is guilty until proven innocent – and that is now how we need to look at this mendacious, criminal, feckless Administration.

Athos on June 17, 2014 at 1:39 PM

we all agree that this stinks to high heaven. the question is what to do about it. special prosecutor would be the obvious way, but holder will not do it and even if he is forced to do it he will pick some lib. political donator and we will get nothing. Can’t congress seize all computer records? I am sorry to say I do not trust the FBI as every executive dept. has been infected with obama’s corruption. I believe this is symptomatic of why cantor lost. The perception that the house is feckless and ineffective in dealing with this and other issues. When are we going to get a select committee with someone who knows how to do a criminal (yes criminal) investigation. I expect obama to be corrupt. perhaps I am being unfair but I expect a lot more out of our side.

warmairfan on June 17, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Would “rope and a tall tree” be too strong a sentiment?

glockomatic on June 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Not f*cking strong enough.

Midas on June 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Show of hands: When was the last time your computer crashed so hard that important data — e-mails, specifically — were lost and couldn’t be retrieved?

I’ve dealt with two HD fails in the past 5 years. Both times the local computer shop was able to recover everything. I was pretty impressed thinking that stuff was gone for good and they just shrugged and said that recovering data is not that big of a deal any more.

And that’s just a local computer shop; I’m not talking about the sophisticated data recovery tools available to criminal investigators and high-end businesses.

This is all BS.

PackerBronco on June 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Racists! You’re only doing this because Lois Lerner is black or hispanic or a Warren-cherokee mix.

Or something.

Wino on June 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Seriously, though, who’s getting fired going to jail?

Fixed.
Enough of this sh*t!!!

VelvetElvis on June 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM

And all of them, apparently, were lost in computer crashes. That’s novel. Normally, when an agency doesn’t want to comply with a document request, it simply lies by claiming that no such document exists.

That’s BS. IRS has all of the e-mails stored as backups on a central server.

Stoic Patriot on June 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Emails are kept on the server which is invariably RAID protected. Those emails are there. If all else fails, force the NSA to cough them up.

ROCnPhilly on June 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM

So long as the House leadership remains so obviously impotent–refusing to arrest, try, and incarcerate Lerner ’til she testifies–the Administration will continue to treat the House committee investigations like the newspaper at the bottom of a birdcage. Listen, Mr. Speaker, so long as you act like a weak sister and refuse to do your Constitutional duty, the Progressives will see you as a pathologically inept leader and will not take you seriously. Holder (in contempt himself) will never act to investigate or prosecute. He will never appoint a special counsel (if he did it would be a crony, who would sabotage it). The Administration’s behavior, claiming that the e-mails are missing, is a childish and insulting act of deceitful defiance. The democrats have no respect for Congress. Why else would sociopaths like Reid and Pelosi be in leadership positions? The dems are clearly unconcerned that any GOP leader will take any action to thwart their obstruction. Whining does not equate with action, Mr. Speaker.

TonyP on June 17, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Abolish the IRS….

d1carter on June 17, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 1:30 PM

I had two thots when reading this IRS fable. Where is your “stop yer killing me”, RWM? LOL

And also a Suspension of Disbelief.

What pitiful statements from this administration!!

bluefox on June 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Any mathematicians here, odds of 6 people in the IRS all losing their emails, then odds of ALL of them being connected to this particular scandal.

How many crashes have there been of other IRS employee hard drives where all their internal emails are lost.

Bishop on June 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

You know the IRS would destroy any citizen who gave them that excuse. Its time for senior people to go to jail. Impeachment 2015!

Iblis on June 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

ARREST SOME MOTHERF*CKERS RIGHT F*CKING NOW, FOR F*CKS SAKE.

SERIOUSLY – WHAT THE EVERLOVING F*CK DOES IT TAKE?

Midas on June 17, 2014 at 1:45 PM

must have been using hitachi drives, the japs got us back finally.
yeah….thats the ticket….

dmacleo on June 17, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Here’s a suggestion. Everyone don’t pay their taxes this year. When the IRS comes aknockin’, just tell them that sometimes stuff just happens.

Doughboy on June 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Who knows? Maybe our W-2 forms were on those crashed computers.

Steve Z on June 17, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Getting to the point where the ammo box is more important than the ballot box.

crrr6 on June 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM

These emails lead right to the White House General Counsel Office.

pat on June 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM

That’s my guess as well. At the very least, there have to be tons of Democrat politicians and/or their staff members colluding with Lerner’s office. To use an excuse this pathetic and implausible means they’re terrified of this stuff ever coming to light.

Doughboy on June 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM

done a bunch of recoveries, not that hard to do if drive spins.
actually harder to get data thats been overwritten back than it is to just get data like hers back.
where her pc stopped the moment the drive had issues there would be no overwrites UNLESS someone specifically used an overwrite program.
and someone doing a dod wipe on drive is only reason those techs would not have been able to get anything IMO.

dmacleo on June 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM

There is no way the cover up would be this blatant and this widespread if the scandal doesn’t go all the way to the Cabinet level, at least.

Would you risk your career and even your freedom obstructing justice for Lois Lerner?

fadetogray on June 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Either the IRS’s IT department is miserably incompetent…

…in which case lots of people should be fired…

…or the data destruction is deliberate…

…in which case lots of people should go to jail.

Tsar of Earth on June 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM

The IRS has been weaponized by the left. Time to abolish them.

redshirt on June 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM

The IRS produced an e-mail exchange from 2011

So how did that email survive the meltdown? Hmmmm…

Peri Winkle on June 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

http://www.carbonite.com

Akzed on June 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Racists! You’re only doing this because Lois Lerner is black or hispanic or a Warren-cherokee mix.

Or something.

Wino on June 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM

God, she’s one ugly broad.

lostmotherland on February 26, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Yeah, that too.

slickwillie2001 on June 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Would “rope and a tall tree” be too strong a sentiment?

glockomatic on June 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Back in colonial times corrupt officials were dealt with using tar and feathers, and if it was bad enough, they were… “suspended” from lampposts.

Maybe time to revisit the tradition?

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

The IRS Federal government has been weaponized by the left. Time to abolish them it.

redshirt on June 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM

The Left has deeply infested every crook and nanny in the entire government.

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

I’m going to have to leave this thread before I get myself banned.

*seething*

crrr6 on June 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

The IRS has been weaponized by the left. Time to abolish them.

redshirt on June 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I agree.

And while we’re at it let’s get rid of the IRS too.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Yep, get the IT geeks in the dock and remind them that breaking federal law means Leavenworth, and maybe they want to start yapping.

Bishop on June 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Well, it is sort-of-credible that individual hard drives crashed and data was not recoverable. This is particularly true if they used full-volume-encryption and weren’t careful about keeping a secure copy of the encryption key where it could be accessed in the even of the crash. Simple failure of a single sector could do this if the encryption key wasn’t available.

What simply isn’t credible, however, is that there are no copies of these e-mails in any of the archives, unless those archives were systematically scrubbed of those records. With a year to work they just might have got that done.

DaveK on June 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

http://www.carbonite.com

Akzed on June 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

+1000. Good one.

ConservativePartyNow on June 17, 2014 at 1:52 PM

I had two thots when reading this IRS fable. Where is your stop yer killing me”, RWM? LOL

bluefox on June 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

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Stop it, yer killin’ me!

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Resist We Much on June 17, 2014 at 1:52 PM

OT – what is going on?

Schadenfreude on June 17, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Back in colonial times corrupt officials were dealt with using tar and feathers, and if it was bad enough, they were… “suspended” from lampposts.

Maybe time to revisit the tradition?

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Just watched episode one of ‘John Adams’ last night, and there was a scene where they tarred and feathered a dude, then rode him out on a rail.

Your suggestion makes me grin.

Midas on June 17, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Back in colonial times corrupt officials were dealt with using tar and feathers, and if it was bad enough, they were… “suspended” from lampposts.

Maybe time to revisit the tradition?

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

That tradition isn’t really complete unless the miscreants are ridden off on a long trek through town to the lamposts on roughly hewn rails after being tarred and feathered. Made for merry entertainment as well as justice being served.

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Midas on June 17, 2014 at 1:52 PM

We are of like mind. :)

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2014 at 1:53 PM

The IRS has been weaponized by the left. Time to abolish them.

redshirt on June 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I agree.

And while we’re at it let’s get rid of the IRS too.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

LOL

+1000

Midas on June 17, 2014 at 1:53 PM

When Obama gets off the golf course and reads about this, is he ever going to be pi$$ed!

ugottabekiddingme on June 17, 2014 at 1:54 PM

We are of like mind. :)

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2014 at 1:53 PM

:)

Midas on June 17, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Any mathematicians here, odds of 6 people in the IRS all losing their emails, then odds of ALL of them being connected to this particular scandal.

Bishop on June 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

You are more likely to win the Powerball 6 times in a row.

And I’m not a mathematician. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last week.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 1:54 PM

These emails lead right to the White House General Counsel Office.

pat on June 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM

That’s my guess as well. At the very least, there have to be tons of Democrat politicians and/or their staff members colluding with Lerner’s office. To use an excuse this pathetic and implausible means they’re terrified of this stuff ever coming to light.

Doughboy on June 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM

We KNOW that leading Senate and House Democrats directly appealed / worked with / demanded, in the wake of Citizen’s United, for the IRS to use it’s power to defang conservative political action organizations.

We KNOW that from the WH, including Obama, they’ve made not only their opposition to Citizen’s United quite clear, but that they’ve (seriously and in ‘jest’) have said that they have the power in the executive branch to act as they see fit – which includes abusing their powers for political gain – ie auditing / blocking conservative political organizations via the IRS powers.

This started as ‘projection’ – the Dems saying to themselves that the GOP would do this if they were in power, so we’re justified in doing so. But it’s moved far beyond that, particularly after the 2010 mid-terms and Citizen’s United. It’s a real and direct threat to their self-entitlement of power.

It’s time to revisit Nixon’s 2nd article of impeachment – and make it front and center of a PR / News push for the balance of the year along with pressuring Congressional Democrats that they either do what the GOP did in 1974 – or they will pay a price. (Of course, we need a leadership with balls – which we entirely lack…which is why Obama will get away with these abuses of power.)

Athos on June 17, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Bush’s fault

brentspolemics on June 17, 2014 at 1:55 PM

It was probably a malicious virus in an email. Since these IRS folks were all talking secretly among themselves on how best to screw Conservatives promote their agenda, it stands to reason that theirs are the only infected computers: thus, the only computers that have lost their email.

It sounds like a bunch of lies and cover-ups and malicious abuse of exectutive power/privilege by a feckless bunch of anti-Conservative operatives with a ‘destroy at all costs agenda’ (operating on your tax money); but, as you see, it’s all perfectly reasonable.

That the lost emails are also coincident to the time frame of the attacks against Conservatives is just coincidence. Yep, just an unfortunate coincidence.

ss396 on June 17, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Let them all hang.

SC.Charlie on June 17, 2014 at 1:55 PM

ARREST SOME MOTHERF*CKERS RIGHT F*CKING NOW, FOR F*CKS SAKE.

SERIOUSLY – WHAT THE EVERLOVING F*CK DOES IT TAKE?

Midas on June 17, 2014 at 1:45 PM

It takes a Justice Department that isn’t entirely corrupt. We don’t have one of those. Welcome to the banana republic of America. What are we gonna do about it? Not a damn thing.

Rational Thought on June 17, 2014 at 1:56 PM

The IRS has been weaponized by the left. Time to abolish them.
redshirt on June 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I agree.

And while we’re at it let’s get rid of the IRS too.

ConstantineXI on June 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

LOL

+1000

Midas on June 17, 2014 at 1:53 PM

ROTFLMAO…..
The IRS sends me tax due notices from multiple offices….
And this is after I set up a payment plan…..
Why can’t these offices lose my e-mails????

redguy on June 17, 2014 at 1:56 PM

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