Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on June 16, 2014 by Allahpundit

An Iranian soldier from Quds Force, the elite overseas branch of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps, was killed in Iraq fighting Sunni extremists, reported news agencies affiliated with Iran’s government on Monday.

Alireza Moshajeri, referred to simply as ‘pasdar’ or ‘fighter,’ marked Iran’s first reported casualty in what is shaping up to be a Sunni-Shiite sectarian war next door, reported the news agencies.

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As life returns to an uneasy version of normal in Mosul, the response from local residents to the city’s capture by ISIS, a radical Islamist group, has been surprisingly positive. Multiple Sunni residents inside Mosul who spoke with The Daily Beast by phone reported being glad to be rid of the predominantly Shia government security forces, and so far pleased with life under the ISIS occupation. That may change soon if ISIS begins to rule with the brutality they have displayed in Syria, but by keeping the residents of Mosul happy for now ISIS is buying time to increase its power and local support, which will make things even harder for the Baghdad government if it tries to take the city back.

In response to the recent news from Mosul, an Iraqi citizen recalled the story of a friend from Diyala Province. “He told me, ‘It was the same for us in 2007. We were very happy when ISIS took over the area and drove the Iraq Army out and at first they behaved very well. It was only after a month that they started killing us.’”…

In the east Mosul neighborhood of Al-Sumer, a call for recruits to support the new rebellion brought hundreds of young men to the streets to sign up. With the vast trove of government arms collected and more recruits joining the ISIS offensive, the Iraqi Army, if it tries to retake the city, may find an even larger and more entrenched force in Mosul than the one that threw them out in the first place.

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In an interview, Qubad Talabani—the Kurdish government’s incoming deputy prime minister and the son of Iraq’s president, Jalal Talabani—said Kurdish leaders do not seek the dissolution of Iraq, but that it’s happening nonetheless.

“Iraq, in a sense, has broken apart from us,” he told The Daily Beast. “Geographically we practically have to cross another country to get to Baghdad. We have to cross through territory that is governed and secured by forces that are not loyal to the federal government in Baghdad.”…

For years, politicians and analysts have warned that Iraq—a country formed in 1920 by the world’s great powers from three distinct ethnic and confessional regions—would eventually break apart.

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The closer ISIS gets to the Iraqi capital, and the sacred Shi’ite shrine of the Mosque of the Golden Dome in the city of Samarra, the more likely Iran will feel that it has no choice but to intervene. Iranians, says Philip Smyth, an expert on Shi’ite militias at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, sees ISIS “as an existential threat to the Shi’ite population of Iraq, and are trying to grab the bull by the horns.” When ISIS’s predecessor, the Islamic State of Iraq, attacked the shrine in 2006 it unleashed a spasm of sectarian violence that resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqis of both sects, and left more than four million displaced.

But an Iranian military presence would not only alarm Iraqi Sunnis, it would be a major affront to the U.S.’s Sunni allies in the Gulf, like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates. “When you start seeing Iranian aircraft, [Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps] forces on the ground, Iranian advisors training the Iraqi military, it could easily devolve into a regional conflagration,” says Smyth. “It’s not like Riyadh wants to back ISIS, but what are they going to do when they see a mobilization like this, and no other outside force to quell it?”…

Iran’s possible role has already evolved beyond Samarra. ISIS must be stopped, says Smyth. The U.S. may not be willing to intervene militarily, but it may not have a choice. The U.S., he says, cannot afford to let Iran take the lead in stopping ISIS. “Both [Iran and ISIS] are bad for American policy and American interests in the region.” Sectarian war, however, will be bad for all concerned.

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Mohamed Elibiary, a controversial figure and member of DHS’s Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC), discussed what he described as the “inevitable” return of a Muslim caliphate Friday on Twitter.

“As I’ve said b4 inevitable that ‘Caliphate’ returns,” Elibiary tweeted in response to a question about the terror group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (also known as ISIS, or the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham), which is currently seeking to overthrow the Iraqi government and instate strict Sharia law in the country.

“Choice only whether we support [European Union] like Muslim Union vision or not,” wrote Elibiary, who has “advised numerous federal, state and local law enforcement organizations on homeland security-related matter,” according to his biography on DHS’s website.

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The extremist groups dominating the fighting are beginning to take their war beyond the two countries that they now freely traverse. In January, ISIS carried out a car-bomb attack in Beirut near the offices of Hezbollah, the Lebanese militant group that has been fighting on behalf of Assad. The Nusra front has also carried out attacks in Lebanon. Meanwhile, the number of Syrian refugees who have fled to that nation exceeds twenty per cent of its population, which is not something that a state as weak and as fractious as Lebanon can be expected to sustain. In Jordan, the presence of half a million Syrian refugees is putting an enormous strain on the fragile monarchy.

The revolutionary government of Iran looms ominously over it all. Iran has been decisive in supporting Assad, and its influence over Maliki, never small, has increased enormously since the departure of the last American forces in Iraq, in December of 2011. During the war, Iranian agents trained, armed, and directed a network of Shiite militias, which killed hundreds of American and British soldiers. Those same militias are evidently being readied to confront the Sunni onslaught in Iraq; thousands of their members have already been fighting for Assad in Syria. Iran’s intervention in Syria has also alarmed Saudi Arabia and Turkey, which have poured in guns and money to help the rebels. It is not difficult to imagine a multinational war, fought along a five-hundred-mile front, and along sectarian lines, waged ultimately for regional supremacy…

Within a day after sweeping into Mosul, ISIS militants freed thousands of prisoners, looted bank vaults, and declared the imposition of Sharia law. From now on, the group said, unaccompanied women were to stay indoors, and thieves would be punished by amputation. The “divine conquest” of Mosul by a group of Islamic extremists is a bitter consequence of the American invasion. For now, there seems to be very little we can do about it.

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What if U.S. troops had remained, with or without protections? Would it have proven decisive in shielding Iraq against the current onslaught? There is little doubt that the presence of American counterterrorism advisers, providing intelligence to assist Iraqi forces in targeting al Qaeda in Iraq (which became the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS), would have helped keep pressure on the network. Air support and more robust training assistance would also have improved the capabilities of the Iraqi army – or, at the very least, slowed the degradation of these capabilities. It was precisely for these reasons that Obama was willing to consider leaving some U.S. forces in Iraq.

But the idea that such a force would have completely stopped the jihadists is a fantasy. In 2011, when the Syrian protest movement was only just beginning to morph into a nationwide insurgency, few analysts anticipated the sheer scale of the spillover into neighboring Iraq. The enormous boon this created for ISIS could have overwhelmed Iraqi counterterrorism capabilities even if U.S. advisers had remained.

And, crucially, a hypothetical follow-on force would have done little to ameliorate the political dynamics underlying the current crisis. The litany of Maliki’s failures to accommodate Sunni aspirations is well known: his failure to live up to power-sharing promises made in 2010; his extra-constitutional abuses of power; his persecution of Sunni politicians; his failure to sustain ties with Sunni tribes in western Iraq; his refusal to follow through on commitments to integrate “Awakening” fighters into Iraqi security forces; and his heavy-handed response to Sunni political protests in Anbar province last year.

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It’s widely agreed that the collapse of Iraq would be a disaster for American interests and security in the Middle East and around the world. It also seems to be widely assumed either that there’s nothing we can now do to avert that disaster, or that our best bet is supporting Iran against al Qaeda. Both assumptions are wrong. It would be irresponsible to embrace a premature fatalism with respect to Iraq. And it would be damaging and counterproductive to accept a transformation of our alliances and relationships in the Middle East to the benefit of the regime in Tehran. There is a third alternative…

This would require a willingness to send American forces back to Iraq. It would mean not merely conducting U.S. air strikes, but also accompanying those strikes with special operators, and perhaps regular U.S. military units, on the ground. This is the only chance we have to persuade Iraq’s Sunni Arabs that they have an alternative to joining up with al Qaeda or being at the mercy of government-backed and Iranian-backed death squads, and that we have not thrown in with the Iranians. It is also the only way to regain influence with the Iraqi government and to stabilize the Iraqi Security Forces on terms that would allow us to demand the demobilization of Shi’a militias and to move to limit Iranian influence and to create bargaining chips with Iran to insist on the withdrawal of their forces if and when the situation stabilizes…

Throwing our weight behind Iran in the fight against al Qaeda in Iraq, as some are suggesting, would make things even worse. Conducting U.S. airstrikes without deploying American special operators or other ground forces would in effect make the U.S. Iran’s air force. Such an approach would be extremely shortsighted. The al Qaeda threat in Iraq is great, and the U.S. must take action against it. But backing the Iranians means backing the Shi’a militias that have been the principal drivers of sectarian warfare, to say nothing of turning our backs on the moderates on both sides who are suffering the most. Allowing Iran to in effect extend its border several hundred kilometers to the west with actual troop deployments would be a strategic disaster. In addition, the U.S. would be perceived as becoming the ally of the Islamic Republic of Iran against all of the forces of the Arab and Sunni world, conceding Syria to the Iranian-backed Bashir al-Assad, and accepting the emergence of an Iranian hegemony soon to be backed by nuclear weapons. And at the end of the day, Iran is not going to be able to take over the Sunni areas of Iraq—so we would end up both strengthening Iran and not defeating ISIS.

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We face a simple choice: We can either rejoin our demoralized Iraqi partners in the fight against ISIS or we can watch as this Al Qaeda franchise solidifies its control over several million Iraqis and Syrians, completes its plundering of military bases and continues to build up, train and equip an honest-to-goodness military.

Rejoining the fight means immediately sending air support; intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance assets; air transportation; Special Operations forces; training teams; and more military equipment back into Iraq. It does not mean re-invading Iraq.

Immediately sending air support and Special Forces to Mosul might shock ISIS and embolden the population enough to rout the jihadis from the city. But if it does not, the Iraqi Security Forces may well prove unable to regain Mosul on their own.

In that case, a small contingent of U.S. ground forces would be required.

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Manned airstrikes may be useful against the ISIL lines of communication. But they are of limited use in urban environments. Whatever mix of manned or drone strikes is employed, we and the Iraqis will need good current intelligence. As during the U.S. troop surge in Iraq in 2007, Iraqis will need Americans to help plan and execute those operations. So there may be a need for American intelligence and fire control personnel on the ground. If so, President Obama would be correct to insist that Mr. Maliki quickly sign a Status of Forces agreement to give our military standard immunities that all our overseas forces have…

It is time for both American political parties to cease their ritualistic incantations of “no boots on the ground,” which is not the same as “no combat forces.” Of course Americans are reluctant to re-engage in Iraq. Yet it is President Obama’s unhappy duty to educate them about the risks to our interests posed by the unfolding drama in Iraq.

The crisis in Iraq is a flashing warning light about the dangers of a reductionist national security policy that sends a signal of weakness to friends and enemies abroad. The most immediate crisis is in Mesopotamia. But we can be sure that the Taliban in Afghanistan are watching closely to see if the withdrawal of American forces comes to mean American indifference. Beyond the Hindu Kush, east across the Zagros Mountains and to the north of Iraq, hard-eyed men in Beijing. Tehran and Moscow are also calculating the implications of our handling of this crisis. The stakes could not be higher.

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Despite the absurd arguments from the war-drum crowd that we needed to spend even more time in Iraq, we know that’s not a rational response. The Iraqis are not children, and their factional issues are theirs to deal with, not ours. Additional actions in Iraq not only would cost more money that we really can’t afford, but any sort of military action (even absent ground troops) can risk American lives. The perfectly reasonable resistance to further military action is a reflection of the grasp of sunken costs in Iraq. The trillions of dollars spent in Iraq and the loss of American lives and the permanent injuries so many have suffered didn’t liberate the country. There is no rational reason to believe that additional actions will result in a better outcome.

I can’t even fathom what it must feel like to be in the position of these veterans, to have lost arms, legs and friends in Iraq and to watch what’s happening now. But we can’t turn lies (the reasons for the Iraq war) into something noble by continuing to throw money and people at Iraq to “fix” it. I don’t know how to fix the pain, emotional and physical, veterans must feel over Iraq’s crumbling, but I do know that we can’t make it better by spreading that pain to even more veterans. That would be the likely outcome of additional military action in Iraq.

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To extricate the United States from the unpopular war he had inherited from his predecessor, President Nixon sold out the South Vietnamese. Yet by simultaneously reaching an accommodation with China, he managed at least one trick: By the time Saigon fell, Nixon had reduced by one the roster of countries that Washington counted as problems or threats. He thereby salvaged a modicum of advantage acutely relevant to the as-yet-undecided Cold War.

Obama is not guilty of consciously selling out a former ally. To extricate the United States from an equally unpopular war that he inherited from his predecessor, he merely cut Iraq loose. Perhaps he had little alternative but to do so. Yet in terms of implications, Obama’s actions are much the same as Nixon’s: Iraqi problems are no longer our problems…

One glimmer of opportunity remains, in terms of daring and audacity the closest thing to a Nixonian gambit: Ending the U. S. diplomatic estrangement from Iran could yield a strategic realignment comparable to that produced by the opening to China, its effects rippling across the greater Middle East. There, rather than in misguided proposals for renewed U.S. military action, lies Obama’s chance to demonstrate that he has grasped the lessons that Iraq (along with Vietnam) has to teach. One can imagine Nixon himself relishing the prospect.

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Ther objective case for the impeachment of Barack Obama

The first is that John Boehner won’t risk his speakership no matter what and second, the perception among some that Obama unlike Johnson or Nixon, would turn any challenge to his presidency into a Constitutional crisis. Nixon resigned rather than divide the country. No such grace can be expected from Obama, or so the argument goes.

The reality of these objections was confirmed by interest in a newly developed avenue for challenging presidential overreach through the courts. A Wall Street Journal article described an approach developed by Elizabeth Price Foley which avoids the dangers of an existential challenge to the president by nickel and diming the disputes.

President Obama is setting a dangerous precedent by suspending his enforcement of laws on health care, immigration, drugs, banking and so much else, but the courts may soon be asked to throw a brushback pitch….

Mr. Obama’s practice of unilaterally waiving his duty to faithfully execute statutes has been abetted by a presumed lack of legal “standing” to contest his suspension. To the extent individuals have not suffered concrete injuries that the courts traditionally redress, he feels he can act without consequence to create whole-cloth regulatory regimes. This makes the inherent Article I powers of Congress irrelevant, with perhaps permanent damage to the separation of powers and political accountability. If Mr. Obama gets away with it, the next President probably will too.

But Congress may yet have a way to challenge this usurpation in court. The Washington constitutional litigator David Rivkin and Florida International University law professor Elizabeth Price Foley have developed a legal theory that would allow for judicial review to resolve this dispute between the political branches on the merits. Members of Congress as individuals cannot sue as individuals over passing political disputes. But when the President is usurping core legislative powers, Congress as an institution can sue to vindicate this constitutional injury.

Short of impeachment, there is no other way for Congress to defend its rights, and the Rivkin-Foley case is narrow and limited—and should survive judicial scrutiny. The idea has secured the interest of the GOP leadership, which may soon authorize a House-led lawsuit.

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 10:41 PM

RATSO-BISHBOP!

Resist We Much on June 16, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Not a smidgen of corruption… yea… right…

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:43 PM

2 late

Fred

jrsrigmvr on June 16, 2014 at 10:43 PM

…blah blah blah is QOTD time!

JugEarsButtHurt on June 16, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Senior DHS Official: Why, Yes, The Caliphate Is Returning And We Should Treat It Like A Muslim Version Of The EU…Or Something.

Resist We Much on June 16, 2014 at 10:41 PM


Dang Nab It!!!!

I shoulda known that extra million electrons would slow me down and let you sneak by me, Sophie!

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Should have strafed them. Fore!!!

Bmore on June 16, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Dang Nab It!!!!

I shoulda known that extra million electrons would slow me down and let you sneak by me, Sophie!

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 10:44 PM

:p

Resist We Much on June 16, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Hey OC.. you okay, buddy?

You ain’t first and those were some nasty clouds that went by.

wolly4321 on June 16, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Evenin’.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 16, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Hey everybody. Late one tonight…

Democrats are the American party of crooks and thieves.

Gingotts on June 16, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Bad tornadoes in Nebraska and Iowa. One town was devastated.

crankyoldlady on June 16, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Immediately sending air support and Special Forces to Mosul might shock ISIS and embolden the population enough to rout the jihadis from the city.

Or it will result in the deaths of every SF dude sent over there considering how trustworthy anyone is in that blighted land.

How about this: During the night drop an old dumpster in the desert, surround it with some barbed-wire, plant an Israeli flag on top and then spread the word that it’s a Zionist facility that converts muslim women to Judaism.

Wait for the hordes to arrive from every direction…and start dropping MOAB’s.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Political Class Ignore Strength Of Feeling On Immigration ‘At Their Peril’

The ‘liberal political class’ dominating Britain is out of step with the mass of the electorate on immigration, major study warns.

Resist We Much on June 16, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Hey OC.. you okay, buddy?

You ain’t first and those were some nasty clouds that went by.

wolly4321 on June 16, 2014 at 10:46 PM

It looks like it was north of him but that doesn’t mean his power isn’t out.

crankyoldlady on June 16, 2014 at 10:51 PM

One town was devastated.

crankyoldlady on June 16, 2014 at 10:49 PM

What town?

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 10:51 PM

I trust nothing this administration says or does…..nothing.

KCB on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Immediately sending air support and Special Forces to Mosul might shock ISIS and embolden the population enough to rout the jihadis from the city.

Or it will result in the deaths of every SF dude sent over there considering how trustworthy anyone is in that blighted land.

How about this: During the night drop an old dumpster in the desert, surround it with some barbed-wire, plant an Israeli flag on top and then spread the word that it’s a Zionist facility that converts muslim women to Judaism.

Wait for the hordes to arrive from every direction…and start dropping MOAB’s.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 10:50 PM

I like that plan…

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 PM

What town?

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Pilger.

crankyoldlady on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 PM

I know what a Twerp is but what’s a Bishbop?

Parmenides on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 PM

I like that plan…

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 PM

It does have merit, doesn’t it?

KCB on June 16, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, and to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is also an occasion to remember that Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has benefited mankind. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It’s a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It’s a faith based upon love, not hate. Mohammad’s word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements. The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur’an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace.

VorDaj on June 16, 2014 at 10:53 PM

evening’. annoyinglittletwerp on June 16, 2014 at 10:46 PM

How’s he enjoying it so far?

wolly4321 on June 16, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Wait for the hordes to arrive from every direction…and start dropping MOAB’s.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 10:50 PM


Or “daisy cutters”
… if you like the color red.

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 10:54 PM

I know what a Twerp is but what’s a Bishbop?

Parmenides on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Not a question we normally ask….newbie.

KCB on June 16, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Pilger

crankyoldlady on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Okay, prayers for them.

Don’t scare me like that though.

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 10:54 PM

I like that plan…

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 PM

It does have merit, doesn’t it?

KCB on June 16, 2014 at 10:53 PM

The only part of that plan that bothers me… Is, do we have enough MOAB’s???

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:55 PM

What town?

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 10:51 PM

.
Pilger, Nebraska struck by massive twin tornados

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 10:56 PM

I would say that Obama and his hand-picked administration is totally incompetent and we all are in one hell of screwed up situation. This country can not live peacefully with a region, a country ruled by ISIS. May God help us all.

SC.Charlie on June 16, 2014 at 10:56 PM

I would like to do that to my truck.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 10:57 PM

I know what a Twerp is but what’s a Bishbop?

Parmenides on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 PM


Jimmy Hoffa style fatal

One second you’re there, next second they can’t even find your shoes.

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Plop a camel wearing a burkha next to a latrine. When they all fight over it to make it one of their wives drop a MOAB.

Parmenides on June 16, 2014 at 10:58 PM

I know what a Twerp is but what’s a Bishbop? Parmenides on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 PM</blockquote.

I think it's an exotic type of wood.

wolly4321 on June 16, 2014 at 10:58 PM

How about this: During the night drop an old dumpster in the desert, surround it with some barbed-wire, plant an Israeli flag on top and then spread the word that it’s a Zionist facility that converts muslim women to Judaism.

Wait for the hordes to arrive from every direction…and start dropping MOAB’s.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Have’t you heard how attractive Jewish women are, compared to local breeding machines? The goat abusers will be herding in their females, starting with 9 year old girls, hoping for a conversion. Do we want to drop MOAB’s on them?

PS: On second thought, the plan is pure gold.

Rix on June 16, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Or “daisy cutters” … if you like the color red.

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 10:54 PM

FAE.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Pilger, Nebraska struck by massive twin tornados

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Somebody got a beautiful video.

crankyoldlady on June 16, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Everything Gives Me The Blues…..

williamg on June 16, 2014 at 10:59 PM

The only part of that plan that bothers me… Is, do we have enough MOAB’s???

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:55 PM


Good point.
We should just nuke them from orbit – it’s the only way to be sure.

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 10:59 PM

I’m here and I am OK but the storm has wreaked havoc with my internet and power…

OmahaConservative on June 16, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, and to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is also an occasion to remember that Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has benefited mankind. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It’s a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It’s a faith based upon love, not hate. Mohammad’s word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements. The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur’an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace.

VorDaj on June 16, 2014 at 10:53 PM

If you like your plan you can keep your plan.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 11:01 PM

remember when

Fred

jrsrigmvr on June 16, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Or “daisy cutters” … if you like the color red.

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 10:54 PM

FAE.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 10:59 PM

BLU-82

Drop one for each of Ogabe’s Taliban friends.

viking01 on June 16, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Somebody got a beautiful video.

crankyoldlady on June 16, 2014 at 10:59 PM

I would call that many things, but beautiful ain’t one of them.

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 11:03 PM

FAE.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 10:59 PM

.
Then they just look like ballons dropped from a height; like crappy abstract art.

“Daisy cutters” will give you more of sunflower look (well, red sunflower) the satellite after action photos.

[This proves I have a sensitive, artistic soul]

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 11:03 PM

wolly4321 on June 16, 2014 at 10:53 PM

He’s homesick and isn’t eating much because everything costs so much.
We told him we’d send $$ because he’s already too thin.
He took photos of Sachenhausen Concentration Camp.
While I know that the majority of Sachenhausen’s victims weren’t Jews-the photos took my breath away.
Now I want to move to Israel and be around people sort of like me.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 16, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Ok Vordaj. Is thatMohammed the caravan robber or Mohammed the pedophile? Just askin’?

DemetriusPhalerum on June 16, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Daisy cutter, FAE, BLU-82, whatever works.

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 11:04 PM

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Haha. Good line from alien.

Parmenides on June 16, 2014 at 11:04 PM

We lost one of the good guys in Illinois. Three hour wait at the visitation.

Fallon on June 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Is, do we have enough MOAB’s???

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:55 PM

no… last I read maybe a couple dozen..

wiki says 15..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast_bomb

going2mars on June 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Good to hear from you OC. Whew!
Parm, thanks for the tune the other night.
Luv it.
Hugs from your Sweet Soul Sister.

31giddyup on June 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Obama-Hillary foreign policy has failed miserably.

Thousands of Americans sacrificed their lives, and inept, engaged Obama is wanting to throw it all away.

bluegill on June 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM

I’m here and I am OK but the storm has wreaked havoc with my internet and power…

OmahaConservative on June 16, 2014 at 11:00 PM

.
You can live without internet … and even power (though I heartily recommend at least a 5 Kw generator and a wired in transfer panel) …

… family, friends & yourself are what’s important.

PolAgnostic on June 16, 2014 at 11:06 PM

*unengaged Obama, that is

bluegill on June 16, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Ok Vordaj. Is thatMohammed the caravan robber or Mohammed the pedophile? Just askin’?

DemetriusPhalerum on June 16, 2014 at 11:03 PM

You forgot “Mohammed the camel abuser”. Oh, come on bro, I bet it was satire. It’s VorDaj you’re talking about. :)

Rix on June 16, 2014 at 11:06 PM

I’m here and I am OK but the storm has wreaked havoc with my internet and power…
OmahaConservative on June 16, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Well done, OC! Puddy-tats OK? And Dear Mrs OC?

Newtie and the Beauty on June 16, 2014 at 11:06 PM

OmahaConservative on June 16, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Glad you are ok.

KCB on June 16, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Fallon on June 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Damn.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 16, 2014 at 11:06 PM

I know what a Twerp is but what is a xenomorph?

Parmenides on June 16, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Evening All

I’m here and I am OK but the storm has wreaked havoc with my internet and power…

OmahaConservative on June 16, 2014 at 11:00 PM

So glad to see you OC. I was hoping it was farther away from you.

I trust nothing this administration says or does…..nothing.

KCB on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 PM

DITTO

CoffeeLover on June 16, 2014 at 11:07 PM

going2mars on June 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM

I got to look at this one up close.

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 11:07 PM

here and I am OK but the storm has wreaked havoc with my internet and power… OmahaConservative on June 16, 2014 at 11:00 PM

We weren’t worried about you. We were worried about the cat. ;)

wolly4321 on June 16, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Is, do we have enough MOAB’s???

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:55 PM

no… last I read maybe a couple dozen..

wiki says 15..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast_bomb

going2mars on June 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM

That could be a problem… On a count of Bishops plan has a certain, turn the kitchen light’s on at midnight and find the kitchen over run with cockroaches aspect to it. We’re going to need a bigger boat bomb…

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 11:08 PM

I missed the sarc tag.

DemetriusPhalerum on June 16, 2014 at 11:08 PM

so the Russians made the “father of all bombs”

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/moab.htm

going2mars on June 16, 2014 at 11:08 PM

CoffeeLover on June 16, 2014 at 11:07 PM

A yawn is a silent scream for more coffee.

Parmenides on June 16, 2014 at 11:08 PM

*unengaged Obama, that is

bluegill on June 16, 2014 at 11:06 PM

And so are you. No asterisk necessary.

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Apparently there was some bad weather down in Dayton. We got nothing here.

crankyoldlady on June 16, 2014 at 11:09 PM

This Al Qaeda Army murdered around 1,700 captured soldiers and others. When is the World Court located in the Hague going to declare that this is a war crime and indict those who were responsible?

SC.Charlie on June 16, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Alright then, plain old 2,000 lb. dumb bombs dropped by waves of B-52′s, Lancers, and Spirits. Fly back to Diego Garcia, fill up the bays, head back and do it again; repeat as necessary.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Is thatMohammed the caravan robber or Mohammed the pedophile? Just askin’?

DemetriusPhalerum on June 16, 2014 at 11:03 PM

The “Harry Reid” of I-rabia ?

viking01 on June 16, 2014 at 11:10 PM

going2mars on June 16, 2014 at 11:08 PM

I understand they have had some problems with theirs.

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 11:11 PM

here is what global security says about the ISIL group..
(and some good maps)

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/aqi.htm

going2mars on June 16, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Damn.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 16, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Yup. He was one of the speakers at the April 15 Tax Day Tea Party this year at ninety years old.

Fallon on June 16, 2014 at 11:12 PM

CoffeeLover on June 16, 2014 at 11:07 PM

A yawn is a silent scream for more coffee.

Parmenides on June 16, 2014 at 11:08 PM

;) :) (Waving) Hugs Should pass you over a cup?

CoffeeLover on June 16, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Or kinetic weapons launched from satellites.

Don’t start yelling that such things don’t exist, I saw them when I was on the international space station.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 11:12 PM

I think it is time to point out who is exactly responsible for all of this…

Benghazi attack could have been prevented if US hadn’t ‘switched sides in the War on Terror’ and allowed $500 MILLION of weapons to reach al-Qaeda militants, reveals damning report

Arms to Libya, then to Syria, now in Iraq…

… What messed up Faculty Lounge Naïve American Hating Failed Ideological Political Incompetence.

And while thousands die from his actions…

… he golfs and fundraises, and the “media” still covers.

No doubt, those beheaded are OK with it…

… because he’s black,… or something.

Seven Percent Solution on June 16, 2014 at 11:12 PM

I believe that there could be no greater legacy for America than to help to bring into being a Palestinian state for a people who have suffered too long, who have been humiliated too long, who have not reached their potential for too long, and who have so much to give to the international community and to all of us.

VorDaj on June 16, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Alright then, plain old 2,000 lb. dumb bombs dropped by waves of B-52′s, Lancers, and Spirits. Fly back to Diego Garcia, fill up the bays, head back and do it again; repeat as necessary.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 11:10 PM

On the other hand, Obama did say that he wanted to eliminate a significant portion of America’s nuclear stockpiles…

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 11:13 PM

He’s homesick and isn’t eating much because everything costs so much.
We told him we’d send $$ because he’s already too thin.
He took photos of Sachenhausen Concentration Camp.
While I know that the majority of Sachenhausen’s victims weren’t Jews-the photos took my breath away.
Now I want to move to Israel and be around people sort of like me.
annoyinglittletwerp on June 16, 2014 at 11:03 PM

ALT, I just did a quick check: 1 DM = about 70¢ American (or, if you prefer, 1 Euro = about $1.35 American). Very urine-deficient, even by MY standards–and I survived Carter’s nonsense with the economy when I was in West Germany. Good luck!

Newtie and the Beauty on June 16, 2014 at 11:13 PM

going2mars on June 16, 2014 at 11:08 PM

I understand they have had some problems with theirs.

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Probably something to do with borscht and vodka.

viking01 on June 16, 2014 at 11:14 PM

going2mars on June 16, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Pay special attention to the map with the oil fields overlay.

All but one of those is really in Kurdish territory.

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 11:14 PM

cozmo on June 16, 2014 at 11:07 PM

I got a VERY up close look at the waffle cone fins.. :)

going2mars on June 16, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Meanwhile, over the weekend Obama and his family jet off to Palm Springs to play a round or two of golf, with all the world looking on. He does not know how to fight the foreign enemies of this country and the free world. The man is an utter disgrace.

SC.Charlie on June 16, 2014 at 11:14 PM

This Al Qaeda Army murdered around 1,700 captured soldiers and others. When is the World Court located in the Hague going to declare that this is a war crime and indict those who were responsible?

SC.Charlie on June 16, 2014 at 11:10 PM

They can’t indict the USA’s first black President now, can they? ;-)

ShainS on June 16, 2014 at 11:15 PM

On the other hand, Obama did say that he wanted to eliminate a significant portion of America’s nuclear stockpiles…
oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Carpet bombing is a lost art. We should practice it more

Newtie and the Beauty on June 16, 2014 at 11:15 PM

I believe that there could be no greater legacy for America than to help to bring into being a Palestinian state for a people who have suffered too long, who have been humiliated too long, who have not reached their potential for too long, and who have so much to give to the international community and to all of us.

VorDaj on June 16, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Eureka! I finally figured where you quote this diarrhea from. Yeah, that’s one of the reasons why I don’t want her as President.

Rix on June 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Carpet bombing is a lost art. We should practice it more

Newtie and the Beauty on June 16, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Yes, in the Middle East we should… With Nukes… Carpet bombing with Nukes…

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Iran’s possible role has already evolved beyond Samarra. ISIS must be stopped, says Smyth. The U.S. may not be willing to intervene militarily, but it may not have a choice. The U.S., he says, cannot afford to let Iran take the lead in stopping ISIS. “Both [Iran and ISIS] are bad for American policy and American interests in the region.” Sectarian war, however, will be bad for all concerned.

Nonsense. It would be in our interests to stay out. We have two choices, we can either commit ourselves to occupying Iraq for a long time..in fact probably long enough that everyone reading this will be dead by the time we get out, or we can stay out.

I want America to stay out of this, because if we do get back involved, China and Russia will take advantage of this and hurt us far more than anything these fools could ever hope to do.

Also not one more dead American for the House of Saud…god it is like 2006 all over again. Do we ever learn?…read the Quran and Hadith…learn…Learn!

William Eaton on June 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Fallon on June 16, 2014 at 11:12 PM

No coffee in the mornings anymore?

Bmore on June 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Bye the bye, Bishop. Anything currently in orbit is a potential kinetic weapon. See; Heinlein, R. A. ‘The moon is a harsh mistress’.

DemetriusPhalerum on June 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM

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