9 quotes from Obama’s 2011 “Remarks on the End of the War in Iraq” that show his total lack of foresight

posted at 10:01 pm on June 16, 2014 by Mary Katharine Ham

I had occasion to rewatch this speech today before I went on “The O’Reilly Factor.” Given Dec. 14, 2011 at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, its contents are gut-wrenching.

1. This one, in which Obama concedes that you’d take post-surge 2011 Iraq over pretty much any other major country in the Middle East post Arab Spring and Obama presidency:

“It’s harder to end a war than begin one. Indeed, everything that American troops have done in Iraq -– all the fighting and all the dying, the bleeding and the building, and the training and the partnering -– all of it has led to this moment of success. Now, Iraq is not a perfect place. It has many challenges ahead. But we’re leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people. We’re building a new partnership between our nations.”

2. This one where Obama describes just how much we’ve lost.

“This is an extraordinary achievement, nearly nine years in the making.”

3. Then, he enumerated our victories, which our withdrawal swiftly turned into losses, one by one, starting with the insurgency.

“We remember the grind of the insurgency -– the roadside bombs, the sniper fire, the suicide attacks. From the ‘triangle of death’ to the fight for Ramadi; from Mosul in the north to Basra in the south -– your will proved stronger than the terror of those who tried to break it.”

4. The sectarian violence.

“We remember the specter of sectarian violence -– al Qaeda’s attacks on mosques and pilgrims, militias that carried out campaigns of intimidation and campaigns of assassination. And in the face of ancient divisions, you stood firm to help those Iraqis who put their faith in the future.”

Sure, sectarian divides would not have disappeared entirely, and Maliki is to blame for alienating Sunnis, but this was not inevitable. A residual force would have ameliorated the divides, kept Maliki in check to some extent, and given moderates breathing room to make the political compromises Obama is now demanding they make in the middle of chaos.

5. The Surge

“We remember the surge and we remember the Awakening -– when the abyss of chaos turned toward the promise of reconciliation. By battling and building block by block in Baghdad, by bringing tribes into the fold and partnering with the Iraqi army and police, you helped turn the tide toward peace.”

6. The vanquising of al Qaeda in Iraq and the preservation of our hard-fought gains

“And we remember the end of our combat mission and the emergence of a new dawn -– the precision of our efforts against al Qaeda in Iraq, the professionalism of the training of Iraqi security forces, and the steady drawdown of our forces. In handing over responsibility to the Iraqis, you preserved the gains of the last four years and made this day possible.”

7. This whole part where the President waxes poetic about honoring our warriors when they come home from the war—with, wait for it— great VA care.

“Part of ending a war responsibly is standing by those who fought it. It’s not enough to honor you with words. Words are cheap. We must do it with deeds. You stood up for America; America needs to stand up for you.

That’s why, as your Commander-in Chief, I am committed to making sure that you get the care and the benefits and the opportunities that you’ve earned. For those of you who remain in uniform, we will do whatever it takes to ensure the health of our force –- including your families. We will keep faith with you.

We will help our wounded warriors heal, and we will stand by those who’ve suffered the unseen wounds of war. And make no mistake — as we go forward as a nation, we are going to keep America’s armed forces the strongest fighting force the world has ever seen. That will not stop.

That will not stop. But our commitment doesn’t end when you take off the uniform.”

8. The part where he trumpets the breaking of the Taliban and the fact that terrorists will now have no safe haven.

“Because of you, in Afghanistan we’ve broken the momentum of the Taliban. Because of you, we’ve begun a transition to the Afghans that will allow us to bring our troops home from there. And around the globe, as we draw down in Iraq, we have gone after al Qaeda so that terrorists who threaten America will have no safe haven, and Osama bin Laden will never again walk the face of this Earth.”

9. The part where America is stronger and the world more secure.

“So here’s what I want you to know, and here’s what I want all our men and women in uniform to know: Because of you, we are ending these wars in a way that will make America stronger and the world more secure. Because of you.”

Here’s the thing. I’m quite aware that the American appetite for interventionism is close to nil. Some of that is a justified backlash to 10+ years of war and the understandable weariness of our people of the deaths of our fellow Americans in those conflicts. While I think it’s important to learn lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan, I also think it’s a fool’s move to become entirely disengaged from the region. As I noted up top, if you had a choice, you’d choose 2011 Iraq over pretty much every other major Middle Eastern country post-Arab Spring when you’re considering the security of Americans and American interests. Given the low tolerance of Americans for interventionism, wouldn’t it have been smarter to try to preserve the residual force in relatively stable (by Obama’s own admission) Iraq, which had the bonus of being a Congressionally authorized endeavor, instead of wasting that tiny bit of good will on airstrikes in Libya, which was both unauthorized and basically useless? We could have preserved the hard-fought and very real victories we had established in Iraq, earned at the cost of friends’ life and limb. We didn’t. It was forseeable. And, now it’s utterly gut-wrenching to watch it all fall apart.

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‘You might not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.’

- Leon Trotsky

Resist We Much on June 16, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Yeah, zero–about that *ahem!* Midoesn’t touch you have…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 16, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Question: Are we still in Korea? In Germany?

Second Question: When did the Korean conflict end? WWII end?

Third Question: Why is Iraq any different from those two countries?

right2bright on June 16, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Ogabe was hiding in Palm Springs. I honestly think he’s about to have a mental breakdown.

8 weight on June 16, 2014 at 10:08 PM

But wait! We have a puppet in the works:

“I don’t believe Baghdad will fall,” he told reporters Monday evening, explaining that the ISIS can still wage a terrorist campaign in Iraq. “What they can do is orchestrate bombings, assassinations, create turmoil, shelling in different places. But I am pretty confident that they won’t take Baghdad.” ~John McCain

And there’s no emails lost, no health care policies cancelled, and no smidgen of scandals. All is well.

Rovin on June 16, 2014 at 10:08 PM

Great post, Ms. Ham. Not nearly enough attention has been given to that speech.

Of course, Obama would rather we forget it. And the ones we’re supposed to remember– Cairo (now

that

would be an embarrassing one for you to parse for him), Berlin, “A More Perfect Union”– who can remember a single line? Besides “typical white person.”

de rigueur on June 16, 2014 at 10:08 PM

I despise him.

rlwo2008 on June 16, 2014 at 10:08 PM

Not our problem, right?

thebrokenrattle on June 16, 2014 at 10:09 PM

When Obama told us these things, some of us knew what they meant, we are not surprised. It’s kind of like when he said their wasn’t even a smidgen of corruption in the IRS. To him, the fact that they are doing exactly what he told them to do does in fact means that there is not even a smidgen of corruption in the IRS.

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Obama: “as we draw down in Iraq, we have gone after al Qaeda so that terrorists who threaten America will have no safe haven”

Of course, Obama surrendered northern Iraq to Al Qaeda.

Hello, is anyone listening to this frequency?

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Lack of foresight? How about cutting the guts out the ABM (anti-ballistic missile) program, and when a rogue nation or groups flings a nuke into your city we won’t be able to defend ourselves. This video starkly show Obama ranting about cutting “investments” in ABM technologies. Insane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COl4soeox6Y

anotherJoe on June 16, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Hello, is anyone listening to this frequency?

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Just give us the fact pattern.

de rigueur on June 16, 2014 at 10:11 PM

Hello, is anyone listening to this frequency?

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:09 PM

You keep bleating this kind of crap in virtually every thread, as though you are the lone voice in the wilderness, crying out and no one sees the incredibly insightful things you see.

Um, get over yourself, you’re sort of preaching to the choir, m’kay?

Midas on June 16, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Can anyone assure us that we are going to survive this Marxist community organizer with severe NPD…?

d1carter on June 16, 2014 at 10:13 PM

I’m about ready to start crying. How the fuk did it come down between Hillary, Barry and John? Then, 2012 was just even more pleasant.

arnold ziffel on June 16, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Of course, Obama surrendered northern Iraq to such a brutal, barbaric terrorist organisation that even Al Qaeda has disavowed it.

Hello, is anyone listening to this frequency?

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:09 PM

FIFY.

Resist We Much on June 16, 2014 at 10:16 PM

You keep bleating this kind of crap in virtually every thread, as though you are the lone voice in the wilderness, crying out and no one sees the incredibly insightful things you see.

Um, get over yourself, you’re sort of preaching to the choir, m’kay?

Midas on June 16, 2014 at 10:13 PM

I’m afraid that we’re not in the same choir, brother.

Our side should be talking about nothing – nada, zip, nada – except that…

Obama surrendered Iraq to Al Qaeda.

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:18 PM

Just words

rob verdi on June 16, 2014 at 10:19 PM

Question: Are we still in Korea? In Germany?

Second Question: When did the Korean conflict end? WWII end?

Third Question: Why is Iraq any different from those two countries?

right2bright on June 16, 2014 at 10:06 PM

The propriety of subsidizing the Korean and German welfare states by providing a big chunk of the cost of their defense aside for the moment;

In both Germany and SoKo, our troops were/are there to protect those sovereign nations from a legitimate external threat. In Iraq, our troops were there to protect the citizenry from themselves.

And that makes all the difference in the world…

JohnGalt23 on June 16, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Here’s the thing. I’m quite aware that the American appetite for interventionism is close to nil. Some of that is a justified backlash to 10+ years of war and the understandable weariness of our people of the deaths of our fellow Americans in those conflicts. While I think it’s important to learn lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan, I also think it’s a fool’s move to become entirely disengaged from the region.

Nuke the site from orbit…

Midas on June 16, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Great post, very telling. i’ll say it again…the man in the whitehouse is insane. and he is despicable.

scalleywag on June 16, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Lack of foresight? No I think not. 0 loves this. This is leftists utopia. Bathe in it all you righteous leftist progressives. Bathe in it. It ain’t water fools!

Bmore on June 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Its like a script to a bad b movie that never ends.

Ellis on June 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM

The average man on the street has no idea that Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq.

And our side is silent.

We’re ‘bleating’ about immigration, emails, and freaking bananas.

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Hello, is anyone listening to this frequency?

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:09 PM

The fact that Iraq is being lost to Sunni militants – related to al Qaeda – is what ALL these threads are about.

TarheelBen on June 16, 2014 at 10:23 PM

I’m afraid that we’re not in the same choir, brother.

Our side should be talking about nothing – nada, zip, nada – except that…

Obama surrendered Iraq to Al Qaeda.

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:18 PM

I’m also very po’d about the floods of illegal children pouring over our Southern border at Obama’s instigation. That would seem to be equally important to the US people, although not the world.

talkingpoints on June 16, 2014 at 10:25 PM

I’m afraid that we’re not in the same choir, brother.

Our side should be talking about nothing – nada, zip, nada – except that…

Obama surrendered Iraq to Al Qaeda.

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:18 PM

OMGZ, you’re right – because a) nothing else is going on, and b) that’s just the *cutest* way to re-express that which is a topic of conversation in several threads per day. OMGZ, look at *you*!

Midas on June 16, 2014 at 10:25 PM

Ogabe doesn’t merely lack foresight.

He’s lazy and doesn’t care and expects shills like Brian Williams and Gwen Ifill to cover his ass.

viking01 on June 16, 2014 at 10:26 PM

The average man on the street has no idea that Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq.

And our side is silent.

We’re ‘bleating’ about immigration, emails, and freaking bananas.

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Hey, dipshit, do a quick count of the topics of the various threads from today, the last few days, etc. You *might* notice a common theme in a great f*cking many of them.

‘Silent’ my a$$ – wake the f*ck up.

Midas on June 16, 2014 at 10:27 PM

The fact that Iraq is being lost to Sunni militants – related to al Qaeda – is what ALL these threads are about.

TarheelBen on June 16, 2014 at 10:23 PM

This is rude but, the problem is that people like you are (unintentionally) useful idiots.

Our side lets the Dem memes win. Obama wants desperately to call these people ISIS, or militants, or freedom fighters, or anything but Al Qaeda. He wants to get our side bleating on about the “it’s Bush’s fault” debate.

These threads are all over the place.

We should be laser-focused on saying… well, you know… Obama surrendered Iraq to Al Qaeda.

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Lack of foresight? No I think not. 0 loves this. This is leftists utopia. Bathe in it all you righteous leftist progressives. Bathe in it. It ain’t water fools!

Bmore on June 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Wait till they not only find out that Soylent Green really is people, but the their Messiah has called the Scoops on them.

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Its like a script to a bad b movie that never ends.

Ellis on June 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM

And OMGZ, it’s a SILENT movie! *slaps both sides of face a la ‘Home Alone’*

Midas on June 16, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Barry has always talked a good game. But it’s always in the execution that HE SUCKS!

GarandFan on June 16, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Barry has always talked a good game. But it’s always in the execution that HE SUCKS!

GarandFan on June 16, 2014 at 10:29 PM

That’s only because he hasn’t actually got to the Bill Ayer’s execution of 25 million Americans yet.

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Question: Are we still in Korea? In Germany?

Second Question: When did the Korean conflict end? WWII end?

Third Question: Why is Iraq any different from those two countries?

right2bright on June 16, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Those two countries had advanced since the 7th century.

The conflict in those countries was not rooted in religion.

Dan_Yul on June 16, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Hey, dipshit, do a quick count of the topics of the various threads from today, the last few days, etc. You *might* notice a common theme in a great f*cking many of them.

‘Silent’ my a$$ – wake the f*ck up.

Midas on June 16, 2014 at 10:27 PM

There’s no need to be so emotional.

I’m sorry if you get so angry that I point out that the people that killed thousands of Americans have for the first time taken over most of a country – and our President has chosen to nothing about it.

Focus your anger on the Left.

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:32 PM

Dog Eater has drafted a message for ISIS: “Don’t do stupid shiit.”

This kerfuffle will be over soon after they read it.

Bishop on June 16, 2014 at 10:33 PM

how can any of you right wing loons not say this is the smartest president in the history of the universe?

jukin3 on June 16, 2014 at 10:36 PM

Obama: “Hey fellas, we’re buying shrimp here”. He’s making global warming speeches and the middle east is falling apart. Hello! Earth to Barry!

Rovin on June 16, 2014 at 10:36 PM

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Lolz! predator mention that flick here.

Bmore on June 16, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Midas, I’m just messing with you. I hear what you’re saying.

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:38 PM

I’m quite aware that the American appetite for interventionism is close to nil. Some of that is a justified backlash to 10+ years of war and the understandable weariness of our people of the deaths of our fellow Americans in those conflicts.

Mary Katharine Ham on June 16, 2014 at 10:01 PM

.
Until the next successful strike, inside the U.S. . . . : (

listens2glenn on June 16, 2014 at 10:39 PM

This is rude but, the problem is that people like you are (unintentionally) useful idiots.

Our side lets the Dem memes win. Obama wants desperately to call these people ISIS, or militants, or freedom fighters, or anything but Al Qaeda. He wants to get our side bleating on about the “it’s Bush’s fault” debate.

These threads are all over the place.

We should be laser-focused on saying… well, you know… Obama surrendered Iraq to Al Qaeda.

faraway on June 16, 2014 at 10:28 PM

A useful idiot? I don’t think so. The fact is, they DO call themselves ISIS. If you want to say al Qaeda, fine. They are the same people; the same ideology; the same goals. I think it’s pretty significant that they are now referring to themselves as an “Islamic State.”

TarheelBen on June 16, 2014 at 10:40 PM

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Lolz! predator mention that flick here.

Bmore on June 16, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Weird cult classic, or frighteningly accurate prophecy?

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Clearly the solution to the middle east problem is to let millions of invaders from Mexico into our county. Could also solve all of our unemployment problems too. Also make energy as expensive as possible. Oh and raise taxes and grow government exponentially.

jukin3 on June 16, 2014 at 10:42 PM

It’s a delicious sandwich. Guess what it’s filled with.

Mason on June 16, 2014 at 10:43 PM

oscarwilde on June 16, 2014 at 10:41 PM

I’m thinking it will remain a weird cult classic.

Bmore on June 16, 2014 at 10:43 PM

#10:

“When I meet with world leaders, what’s striking — whether it’s in Europe or here in Asia …”

Barack Obama, while holding a press conference outside Honolulu on Nov. 16, 2011

[Well, Obama probably thinks Iraq is in Asia -- so it counts -- amiright?]

ShainS on June 16, 2014 at 10:47 PM

I despise him.

rlwo2008 on June 16, 2014 at 10:08 PM

Me too.

V7_Sport on June 16, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Ignorance.

Incompetence.

Intention.

Which is it?

questionmark on June 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Ignorance.

Incompetence.

Intention.

Which is it?

questionmark on June 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Malice.

viking01 on June 16, 2014 at 11:24 PM

The next country we invade, absolutely no one inside will help or trust us if we leave Iraq to fall to these people. All that sacrifice from allied forces and Iraqi citizens to be for nothing is a shameful tragedy. We have to stay there for the long haul, or at the very least entertain the idea of breaking up the country.

Dongemaharu on June 16, 2014 at 11:28 PM

I hope Mary Katharine Ham continues to do this kind of post. It is so much better than, “hey, check out this video I saw” types or “look what so-and-so said” followed by a block of text. Breitbart writers have been doing a great job for a while, finding new ways of presenting the same information and influencing the debate, and I hope to see more posts like this from Mary Katharine Ham. It is a hopeful sign and I thank MKH for the work.

bluegill on June 16, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Obama is a knave. This is from his commencement speech recently.

This is a fight that America must lead. So I’m going to keep doing my part for as long as I hold this office and as long as I’m a citizen once out of office. But we’re going to need you, the next generation, to finish the job.
We need scientists to design new fuels. We need farmers to help grow them. We need engineers to invent new technologies. We need entrepreneurs to sell those technologies. (Applause.) We need workers to operate assembly lines that hum with high-tech, zero-carbon components. We need builders to hammer into place the foundations for a clean energy age. We need diplomats and businessmen and women, and Peace Corps volunteers to help developing nations skip past the dirty phase of development and transition to sustainable sources of energy.

these are not bright people. Where does the energy come from to make those assembly lines hum barry? Is farming the only source of new energy?

barry is an idiot…it is a disgrace that this county has devolved to this point.

Gut wrenching…the whole damn sing song speechifying…and yes, throw in some demagoguery on the way.

he just reads his teleprompter..thinking he is the smartest one in the room

r keller on June 16, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Typo alert: ‘vanquishing’ in the text is missing an h.

Great post. The first quote is especially germane, since the focus of a lot of commentators has been to try to blame Bush for everything, which completely lets Obama off the hook. But if Obama is claiming that Iraq is a success and “an extraordinary achievement,” then there’s no room left to blame Bush or anyone else for letting it dissolve into the current state.

You can’t take credit for Iraq as a success, then turn around and say it’s not your fault when there is a failure.

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 17, 2014 at 12:36 AM

All of this assumes he’s inept. I don’t believe he is.

Don L on June 17, 2014 at 4:14 AM

Good times

cmsinaz on June 17, 2014 at 6:04 AM

After wars, Americans always tend to become somewhat inward-looking, and they bought the right to do that with blood and treasure.

We don’t really need the strongest leaders in time of war. Men tend to stand up at the challenge, become better leaders than they were, as did Lincoln, FDR, Truman, and George W. Bush. The time we most need strong leaders is after the wars stop shooting, and the ensuing years of relative peace.

It is when complacency reigns that leadership is direly needed to ensure we do what we must, not follow the path of least resistance. A Ronald Reagan to insist we were the last best hope of mankind, and go about the tough work of doing it. Lead, and the people will follow.

When the call went out for leadership, Obama was playing video games. Or golf. Or fundraising. Or something.

Adjoran on June 17, 2014 at 6:09 AM

The people ( –cough–Hillary–cough– ) who are saying that this outcome could not have been foreseen must not do a lot of reading on the interwebs, or even engage in the application of common sense for that matter.

hillbillyjim on June 17, 2014 at 6:13 AM

Third Question: Why is Iraq any different from those two countries?
right2bright on June 16, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Obama, the closet Muslim Brotherhood loving Muslim, is President.

albill on June 17, 2014 at 6:45 AM

We remember;

President Obama promised his supporters our presence in Iraq wold be ended.

How President Obama campaigned against the war in Iraq.

How we was aloof and disinterested in negotiating the SOFA, which he turned over to VP Biden.

How he failed to ensure there were adequate forces and resources left behind to continue institution building and professionalizing the ISF. All because that presence did not fit with his political orientation.

We can disagree and have intellectual discussions about the need for a war in Iraq. But the inability to lead and secure the sacrifices previously made by our country is owned by Mr. Obama. His lack of leadership, foresight and desire to do what was right was trumped, once again, by what he believed what was politically expedient. His personal predilections won over what was best for the nation. That is the story of his presidency.

Marcus Traianus on June 17, 2014 at 7:04 AM

I remember the Carter years very well. He was an impotent ninny who unintentionally caused the country great harm that continues to this day.

Obama makes Carter look like Winston Churchill by comparison.
And the harm he is doing to this country is absolutely intentional and will endure beyond our lifespans.

justltl on June 17, 2014 at 7:49 AM

JohnGalt23 on June 16, 2014 at 10:20 PM

I would disagree.

ISIS is coming from all over – within and outside of Iraq. Leaving without a SOFA is an embarassment.

Zomcon JEM on June 17, 2014 at 8:42 AM

Clearly the solution to the middle east problem is to let millions of invaders from Mexico into our county.

jukin3 on June 16, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Just to clarify: the majority of them are not from Mexico right now – it’s Guatemala and Honduras and such.

GWB on June 17, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Democrats and Community Organizers are in love with their voices. Something needs fixin’? Give a speech and viola! It’s fixed.

Herb on June 17, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Question: Are we still in Korea? In Germany?

Second Question: When did the Korean conflict end? WWII end?

Third Question: Why is Iraq any different from those two countries?

right2bright on June 16, 2014 at 10:06 PM

What most people don’t want to hear, and I keep ringing this bell, is that there was no religious issue going on in Germany or Korea. Those were people who had a bit of a sense of morality and respected human life. Generally speaking. And modern Germany and Korea prove that point.

The Middle East? Not so much. Islam is here to stay. It only cares about: bringing back Islam to the Middle East, infiltrating every other country that isn’t Muslim, destroying Israel, making the capital of Islam in Jerusalem, and butchering everyone who doesn’t submit. Ishmael’s people are jealous, and jealousy is a ruthless master. The Iraqi people have no semblance of human rights because Islam trumps those rights we take for granted. Sharia law is everything. It’s been grounded into them for centuries. We don’t understand it because we think everyone wants what we have. Sure, the average Iraqi person might want to live in peace, but they still think that peace is somehow tied to Islam.

The Middle East is moving to Islam at a ferocious pace. There was nothing we could have done to prevent it with troops on the ground in Iraq. It’s real convenient for us to send troops to another country because we Americans are so naive into thinking we are giving people what they want, but that’s not the case when it comes to Islam. Being a Sunni, Shiite or a Kurd is more important to them. They kill each other over their tribal heritage, in fact. How in the world did we think we could overcome that belief system?

Deckard BR on June 17, 2014 at 10:08 AM

The Old Obama: “You can’t change Washington from the inside”
The New Obama: “You can’t change the world from the inside”

Here’s to Obama moving to the moon. I understand it’s made out of cheese.

LashRambo on June 17, 2014 at 10:40 AM

Obama — The one REALLY bragging “Mission Accomplished”? How come the mass media isn’t making hay out of THAT?

LashRambo on June 17, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Above his pay grade!

rjoco1 on June 17, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Great post MKH & especially the layout of it!!!

Here is a little more info on the SOPA and the withdrawal by B.O.
It explains how G.W. Bush was able to work with Maliki and the reasons why B.O. did not. He had a different agenda than Bush.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/we-must-be-as-careful-getting-out-of-iraq-as-we-were-careless-getting-in/

Bottom line is that what is happening in Iraq now was intentional by B.O. Reading this article leads to no other conclusion.

bluefox on June 17, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Six years in office and that bozo thinks his soaring rhetoric means anything. It’s all just verbal flatulence.

Chowderhead123 on June 17, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Here’s the thing. I’m quite aware that the American appetite for interventionism is close to nil. [But] we could have preserved the hard-fought and very real victories we had established in Iraq, earned at the cost of friends’ life and limb. We didn’t. It was forseeable. And, now it’s utterly gut-wrenching to watch it all fall apart.

Yes. Much is made of the lack of a Status of Forces Agreement – but when we had 100,000 soldiers around Maliki, it shouldn’t have been that hard to – ahem – convince him to sign something. Or his successor, after his unfortunate assasination. -)

And it’s not a matter of our “appetite for interventionism”. We’re not intervening in Germany, Japan, South Korea, etc. We’re just there as a garrison. We could have settled into pretty much the same role in Iraq. When we evacuate prematurely, without securing our victories; as we did in 1876, in the American South after our Civil War, and after WWI in Germany, we allow the rise of terrorist movements like the KKK or the Nazis who appear as patriotic counter-revolutionaries and wind up as new adversaries. See KKK, share-cropping, Jim Crow, and segregation as American examples.

Of course, we shouldn’t expect BHO to understand American History. After all, he wasn’t raised or educated here; and the government he grew up with was a corrupt dictatorship with some of the forms of a democracy – much like what he’s instituted here since 2009.

Look, the Brits “occupied” India for a century. If anything, they made money on the deal. And they left India (proper) a stable and prosperous unitary entity, rather than a thousand and one little principalities and potentateships. Given Iraq’s oil, ours for the taking, we could have stayed without much cost or pain.

ReggieA on June 17, 2014 at 5:12 PM