Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on June 14, 2014 by Allahpundit

Gen. Qassim Suleimani, the shadowy commander of Iran’s paramilitary Quds Force, flew to Iraq this week with dozens of his officers to advise the country’s beleaguered leadership about how to blunt the advance of militant forces on Baghdad, American officials said Friday.

In meeting with General Suleimani, the Iraqis are hosting the mastermind of Iran’s strategy in Iraq when Iraqi Shiite militias trained by Iran fought American troops. The general is also the current architect of Iranian military support in Syria for President Bashar al-Assad.

The contact suggests that the Iraqis see the possibility of significant aid from Iran as a means of pressuring the United States to come to Iraq’s defense with aid of its own. And it highlights the complex web of alliances brought to the fore in the current crisis; both the United States and Iran, traditional antagonists, see it in their interest to come to the aid of an embattled partner to repel the advance of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS…

“Everybody has an interest in checking ISIS,” said Amos Yadlin, a retired general and former head of Israeli military intelligence who is now executive director of Israel’s Institute of National Security Studies.

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“If we see that the United States takes action against terrorist groups in Iraq, then one can think about it,” Rouhani said at a press conference marking a year since he was elected president.

Both Iranian and American leaders have separately pledged support for the government of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki in fighting advancing fighters from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).

“We have said that all countries must unite in combating terrorism. But right now regarding Iraq we have not seen the Americans taking a decision yet,” Rouhani said, mentioning that problems in neighbouring Syria have been made worse by Western support for rebels there.

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The extremist group that is threatening the existence of the Iraqi state was built and grown for years with the help of elite donors from American supposed allies in the Persian Gulf region. There, the threat of Iran, Assad, and the Sunni-Shiite sectarian war trumps the U.S. goal of stability and moderation in the region…

[I]n the years they were getting started, a key component of ISIS’s support came from wealthy individuals in the Arab Gulf States of Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Sometimes the support came with the tacit nod of approval from those regimes; often, it took advantage of poor money laundering protections in those states, according to officials, experts, and leaders of the Syrian opposition, which is fighting ISIS as well as the regime…

When confronted with the problem, Gulf leaders often justify allowing their Salafi constituents to fund Syrian extremist groups by pointing back to what they see as a failed U.S. policy in Syria and a loss of credibility after President Obama reneged on his pledge to strike Assad if the regime used chemical weapons.

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The civil war in Syria would inevitably threaten the stability of Iraq, and potentially turn into a cataclysmic regional conflict. Hence, opponents of intervention in Syria should have realized that the only alternative to intervening in Syria was to send U.S. forces back into Iraq, in order to seal off the Iraq–Syria border and buttress the Iraqi security forces.

But instead of coopting the Syrian resistance, or — the next best thing — sealing the border between Syria and Iraq, we did nothing. By the start of 2013 we had abandoned both the Sunni resistance in Syria and the Sunni heartland in Iraq to Islamist networks, particularly ISIS. The Syrian civil war’s slide across the border into Iraq rapidly became a reality. Violence increased throughout the year until Maliki came begging for American help in November 2013. But Obama hadn’t done anything to stop the region from sliding back into chaos and there was no point in starting now. Maliki left empty-handed, with little choice but to throw himself at the mercy of the Iranians — and hope for survival in a revival of the Wahhabi-Iranian proxy war.

When Obama got to power, a tenuous peace held in the Middle East, and the U.S. stood at the height of its influence and prestige in the region. Of course, the Middle East is a devilishly tricky place; upheaval is always around the corner; and the U.S. can’t single-handedly control any region. But it should be obvious to anyone who takes an honest look at the events of the last five years that the Obama administration’s whole approach to foreign policy was bound to make the Middle East a much more dangerous place.

Obama’s skepticism of American power apparently blinded him to how vital that power was to the maintenance of peace and stability.

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It is hard to know for sure, but odds are Iraq would have continued making progress if at least 10,000 American military advisers were still present. They would not have had to take part in combat, but they would have allowed American diplomats and generals to exert pressure on Maliki to curb his sectarian tendencies, and they would have assisted the Iraqi forces to better find, fix, and finish the insurgents without causing lots of collateral damage.

So why aren’t U.S. troops still there? Obama’s supporters blame Maliki and other Iraqi politicians for not agreeing to give U.S. troops legal immunity from prosecution. They also blame George W. Bush for negotiating a previous Status of Forces Agreement in 2008 that expired at the end of 2011, even though there was a widespread expectation in both Iraq and the United States that a renewal would occur when the time came. But the truth is, as New York Times correspondent Michael Gordon and retired Marine general Bernard Trainor make clear in their definitive book, The Endgame, Obama did not try very hard to achieve a Status of Forces Agreement. He waited to start the negotiations until the middle of 2011 even though the last round of talks in 2008 took a year; he leaked word that, even if an agreement were reached, the United States would send only a tiny force of fewer than 5,000 soldiers that was hardly worth the trouble; he insisted that the Iraqi parliament would have to approve the accord even though Iraqi leaders told their American counterparts this was unlikely and unnecessary; he refused to get directly involved in the negotiations; and then he pulled the plug on the talks when they hit their first major obstacle. Obama’s heart just wasn’t in it. He had won the presidency largely because of his opposition to the Iraq war, and he saw no good reason to prolong America’s troop presence.

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Many of us on the right supported the toppling of Saddam Hussein. He was a terror supporter. In those post-9/11 days, there was reason to believe our government was serious about dealing with terror-supporting regimes as if they were terrorists. If Saddam was the next domino to fall after the Taliban, all to the good — it didn’t seem like he’d be the last.

But then the Bush doctrine morphed from a crackdown on the jihad into a reimagining of the Middle East. When democracy predictably didn’t take, the dreamers decided to define democracy down rather than admit failure. “Democracy” somehow became fully compatible with repressive sharia, and we fantasized that anti-Western Islamic supremacists were democratic allies and that Iran would play a constructive regional role.

It was absurd. Yet it was the unquestioned premise for concluding, in 2008, that a sharia state gravitating ever further into Iran’s orbit — an Iraqi state that was dependent on the loyalty of Shiite militias and was already in a simmering conflict with its restive Sunni minority — could be trusted in the imminent draw-down, then complete absence, of American troops to preserve the security gains hard won by American bravery and know-how…

That kind of insanity does not happen overnight. It happens after more than 20 years of willful blindness to the ideology of our enemies, and more than 20 years without a strategic vision of the global jihadist challenge.

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In 2006, it was Ralph Peters, the retired lieutenant colonel turned columnist, who sketched a map that subdivided Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and envisioned Kurdish, Sunni and Shiite republics emerging from a no-longer-united Iraq. Two years later, The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg imagined similar partings-of-the-ways, with new microstates — an Alawite Republic, an Islamic Emirate of Gaza — taking shape and Afghanistan splitting up as well. Last year, it was Robin Wright’s turn in this newspaper, in a map that (keeping up with events) subdivided Libya as well…

De facto, with the shocking advance of militants toward Baghdad, there are now three states in what we call Iraq: one Kurdish, one Shiite and one Sunni — with the last straddling the Iraq-Syria border and “governed” by jihadists.

This means that Iraq is now part of an arc, extending from Hezbollah’s fiefdom in Lebanon through war-torn Syria, in which official national borders are notional at best. And while full dissolution is not yet upon us, the facts on the ground in Iraq look more and more like Peters’s map than the country that so many Americans died to stabilize and secure.

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This week paints Biden’s judgment in a far different light.

Recent events in Iraq call attention to his prediction nearly a decade ago that the war-torn nation was heading towards a break-up along sectarian lines — and to a prescription he offered to try to manage that reality by granting Sunnis, Shia and Kurds greater autonomy over various parts of the country…

“It’s the only solution,” said Leslie Gelb, president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations. “The ship hasn’t sailed. It’s still a basis for doing something…I don’t know if it will work. But in terms of what could work, it’s the only thing.”…

”Biden was wrong because the only way Iraq can be partitioned is the way they are doing it now,” veteran national security journalist Tom Ricks wrote on Twitter Friday. “I think we will wind up with a partitioned Iraq — a Shiite south, a Sunni northwest, and a Kurdish northeast,” he added.

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The major reason using force to defend Iraq’s government is a bad idea is that it always was. Advocates of going into Iraq, like advocates of staying in Iraq in past years, tend to employ sunk costs logic, where the pursuit of a good idea before somehow makes it sensible now. Invocations of dead and wounded Americans’ sacrifice give such thinking added resonance but do not make it sensible…

The idea that we need to fight ISIS because of its potential to use terrorism against the United States suffers similar flaws. During the Iraq War, hawks constantly warned that leaving Iraq would allow terrorist havens to form there. Their mental model was 1990s Afghanistan. They ignored the fact that al Qaeda (the original group that attacked Americans) came from particular conflicts, rather than being some kind of plant that grew in failed states. And even in Afghanistan, the problem was more that the government – the Taliban – allied with al Qaeda, rather than the absence of government. And hawks forgot that U.S. gains in drones and surveillance technology since the 1990s had destroyed havens—now those were easy targets.

Today, we are repeatedly told that ISIS is more brutal than al Qaeda and thus a bigger danger to Americans. But that logic conflates a brutal insurgency with a group focused on attacking Americans. ISIS is a nasty group fond of terrorist violence, radical Islam, and Islamic caliphate, but not an obvious threat to Americans. Conflating morally noxious Islamists with groups bent on killing Americans is one of the errors keeping us at endless war.

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Whatever the U.S. might do, the president said, will make no difference in the absence of “a serious and sincere effort by Iraq’s leaders to set aside sectarian differences, to promote stability, and account for the legitimate interests of all of Iraq’s communities.”

The elephant in the room, unmentioned by Obama, is what happens if Iraq’s leaders — or the rebels — turn out to be uninterested in compromise. In particular, the president never said anything approaching this: “We will under no circumstances permit the terrorists to take control of Iraq.”

Barack Obama is a man who knows how to use words. It’s possible, then, that this omission was intended to prepare us for the worst.

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Without looking again, I somehow thought your Twitter icon was a military insignia of some sort… my bad. But whatever your physical challenges might be, I can tell your head is screwed on correctly…

Anyway, talking with another(who I thought was a) military man just now, I just thought I would share something with the room…

I have a little packet of jokes and one-liners I use all the time in my car… I call it “The Stand-up Act”. Just jokes and pat lines I use all the time that get people to engage in conversation. I have a standard line I use all the time whenever I encounter someone from our military, active or retired, something that happens a few times a week. I say, “Thank you for your service. I think you should hear that every damned day for the rest of your life, and your first beer should be free anywhere you go.”

They invariably thank me for my appreciation.

But in the last month or six weeks, I have added, “You are welcome Sir. I am a firm supporter of our military. We are gonna need you you guys when it comes time to overthrow the government…”, said in a deliberately exaggerated and joking tone…

But they never laugh. Not one. Most of them get really thoughtful and serious…

PointnClick on June 15, 2014 at 4:59 AM

Happy Father’s Day to all of you who are fathers. You probably don’t know how valuable you are. My father passed away in 1968 at age 60.

crankyoldlady on June 15, 2014 at 5:03 AM

Guitar Rag

Sylvester Weaver, 1927

novaculus on June 15, 2014 at 3:28 AM

That’s very good. 1927. Wow.

crankyoldlady on June 15, 2014 at 5:30 AM

But they never laugh. Not one. Most of them get really thoughtful and serious…

PointnClick on June 15, 2014 at 4:59 AM

That’s interesting. I’m sure those guys have a lot to think about.

Some of the lake people give free pontoon boat rides. One of them used to have a whole repertoir of jokes. He was very popular until he sold his boat.

crankyoldlady on June 15, 2014 at 5:35 AM

Secret State: Trevor Paglen Documents The Hidden World of Governmental Surveillance, From Drone Bases to Black Sites

thatsafactjack on June 15, 2014 at 5:13 AM

Is it safe to do what he’s doing? It wouldn’t be my idea of a fun thing to do.

crankyoldlady on June 15, 2014 at 5:43 AM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, …………..:

WikiLeaks suspect Pvt. Manning convicted
1h
Chelsea Manning writes op-ed piece in The New York Times on press freedom – @nytimes
Read more on nytimes.com
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The U.S. Military’s Campaign Against Media Freedom

By CHELSEA MANNINGJUNE 14, 2014

FORT LEAVENWORTH, Kan. — WHEN I chose to disclose classified information in 2010, I did so out of a love for my country and a sense of duty to others. I’m now serving a sentence of 35 years in prison for these unauthorized disclosures. I understand that my actions violated the law.

However, the concerns that motivated me have not been resolved. As Iraq erupts in civil war and America again contemplates intervention, that unfinished business should give new urgency to the question of how the United States military controlled the media coverage of its long involvement there and in Afghanistan. I believe that the current limits on press freedom and excessive government secrecy make it impossible for Americans to grasp fully what is happening in the wars we finance.

If you were following the news during the March 2010 elections in Iraq, you might remember that the American press was flooded with stories declaring the elections a success, complete with upbeat anecdotes and photographs of Iraqi women proudly displaying their ink-stained fingers. The subtext was that United States military operations had succeeded in creating a stable and democratic Iraq.

Those of us stationed there were acutely aware of a more complicated reality.
(More…)

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/opinion/sunday/chelsea-manning-the-us-militarys-campaign-against-media-freedom.html?_r=2

canopfor on June 15, 2014 at 6:00 AM

Voting in a Tolly-Bon Utopia is hazards to one health:

Taliban cuts off fingers of 11 Afghan voters
ANI | Kabul
June 15, 2014 Last Updated at 12:17 IST
****************************************

Taliban militants cut off the fingers of eleven Afghan male voters on Saturday to send out a chilling message to the rest of the populace that they should not have voted in the presidential elections that have been held in two phases on April 5 and June 14.

The incident took place in Herat’s Robat Singi District. The injured men were attended to at a local hospital and were seen with bandages and dressings on their bloodied hands before going for their operations to refix their fingers.

All of them said that they were in no doubt that the Taliban had done this to them.
(More…)

http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/taliban-cuts-off-fingers-of-11-afghan-voters-114061500202_1.html

canopfor on June 15, 2014 at 6:01 AM

Somebody Hacked into the Survey and Fudged the numbers up,
me thinks:
(sarc)

Bill Clinton
42m

Bill Clinton is the most admired president over the last 25 years, NBC News/WSJ/Annenberg Survey says – @NBCNews
Read more on nbcnews.com
=========================

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/poll-bill-clinton-most-admired-president-over-past-25-years-n130756

canopfor on June 15, 2014 at 6:04 AM

And,

GazaGoons are going to eventually get a ComeUppance from this KidNapping Stunt!

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/israeli-teenagers-missing-june-2014/

Israeli teenagers missing, June 2014
Israel

1h
Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu says at a government meeting that Hamas is behind kidnapping of 3 teens – @haaretzcom
Read more on haaretz.com

Israel
2h
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon releases statement condemning kidnapping, calls for teens’ immediate release – @haaretzcom
Read more on haaretz.com

Israel
3h
Israel’s President Peres says ‘All the branches of Israel’s security forces are doing everything to bring our dear boys home’ – @NBCNews
———-

https://twitter.com/IDFSpokesperson

IDF @IDFSpokesperson · 1h

BREAKING: #Hamas is behind the kidnapping of the three Israeli teenagers #EyalGiladNaftali

IDF @IDFSpokesperson · 2h

#IDF soldiers begin another day determined to find Gilad, Eyal & Naftali — kidnapped by #Palestinian terrorists

IDF @IDFSpokesperson · 3h

#LikeEveryChild Gilad, Eyal, & Naftali should be safe at home. Instead, they have been kidnapped by #Palestinian terrorists

IDF @IDFSpokesperson · 5h

#Palestinian terrorists will not be able to feel safe or hide. They will feel the heavy arm of #Israeli military capabilities

canopfor on June 15, 2014 at 6:10 AM

The Great Healer Strike’eth again(s):
=====================================

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/philadelphias-septa-union-talks-2014/

Philadelphia’s SEPTA strike 2014
Philadelphia, PA, US

3m
Official: Philly area commuter rail service restored after Obama intervenes in transit strike – @AP

Barack Obama
10h
More: SEPTA says it would take 8-10 hours to restore service after President Obama intervenes in strike – @AP
Read more on 6abc.com

Philadelphia, PA, US
10h
President Obama intervenes in Philadelphia transit strike, establishes board to investigate contract dispute – @AP
Read more on bigstory.ap.org

Pennsylvania, US
16h
Update: Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett asks President Obama to appoint emergency board to mediate dispute between SEPTA and unions – @AP

canopfor on June 15, 2014 at 6:13 AM

Going2Mars. Let us know you’re ok and haven’t been banned or anything.

crankyoldlady on June 15, 2014 at 7:11 AM

1. coolrepublica commented that they previously were very much against the policies and action of BHO. But over the 6 years he has systematically destroyed our country, coolrepublica has softened his animosity towards obama because of … comments by folks here at Hot Air?

Really, you can ignore his behavior and you started supporting the behavior of this tyrant because of comments here?

Bullshit.

2. Explains away the barbaric behavior of modern day Muslims by invoking … ta-da … The Crusades?

Are you f@cking kidding me? Really?

Give this disingenuous idiot one moment of credibility and you’re a bigger fool than them.

hawkdriver on June 15, 2014 at 7:32 AM

Going2Mars. Let us know you’re ok and haven’t been banned or anything.

crankyoldlady on June 15, 2014 at 7:11 AM

He commented on QOTD last night.

hawkdriver on June 15, 2014 at 7:48 AM

He commented on QOTD last night.

hawkdriver on June 15, 2014 at 7:48 AM

Oh. I went back and read but I must have missed it.

crankyoldlady on June 15, 2014 at 8:00 AM

In appreciation of my Dad

Happy Father’s Day!

lineholder on June 15, 2014 at 8:05 AM

Good evening, williamg. :)

A worthy cause, indeed.

thatsafactjack on June 15, 2014 at 3:29 AM

Sorry I missed you in the wee hours, Sweet, Sweet Jackie – here’s something for you within the bounds of the General Music Theme I perceived…….

williamg on June 15, 2014 at 8:05 AM

To Doc Holliday

In reference to this, you’ll find more info here

I don’t know of any other Conservative group on the ground who has worked the social networking chain as successfully as this group!

lineholder on June 15, 2014 at 8:11 AM

coolrepublica on June 15, 2014 at 1:46 AM

Thanks for making your priorities plain.

lineholder on June 15, 2014 at 8:15 AM

oscarwilde on June 15, 2014 at 1:51 AM

More things in common? Uncanny.

I owe you an apology. Yesterday was a long, rather emotional day and I was very tired. I should have let this comment pass entirely.

oscarwilde on June 15, 2014 at 1:05 AM

I am sorry, OW.

lineholder on June 15, 2014 at 8:23 AM

lineholder, my comment was not directed at any of your exchanges. I sent you an email also.

hawkdriver on June 15, 2014 at 8:25 AM

Happy Fathers Day!

Right now, in America, it is harder than ever to be a Dad. Any male, who is not impotent, can sire a child…as is being proven daily across our country. However, it takes a man to be a Daddy, a Papa, a Pop, a Pops, somebody’s Old Man, or, simply, Dad. – kingsjester

My take: Fathers Day 2014: A Wish For Fathers Day

kingsjester on June 15, 2014 at 8:33 AM

…..Even BETTER, Jackie…..

williamg on June 15, 2014 at 8:37 AM

Latest article on ISIS in Daily-Mail

Lots of pictures in context. Nothing too gruesome.

gh on June 15, 2014 at 8:39 AM

hawkdriver on June 15, 2014 at 8:25 AM

Thanks. Check your email, hawkdriver.

lineholder on June 15, 2014 at 8:41 AM

In the link I posted above there is a picture captioned:

A handout picture released by the US Navy shows aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush sailing in the Arabian Sea. The carrier has been redeployed to the Persian Gulf to provide air support to beleaguered Iraqi forces

On the deck men are standing to spell out in colored letters: 41 = 90

Took me a while to figure out what it meant ;-)

gh on June 15, 2014 at 8:45 AM

Took me a while to figure out what it meant ;-)

gh on June 15, 2014 at 8:45 AM

And that’s why the comments from twitter/twichy that MKH posted were important to see, although the liberals who post here would rather not acknowledge them. Also why idiots like ricky404 are such disgusting pigs. They’re clueless about him.

The man is a DFC recipient and once the youngest Navy combat pilot during WWII. The Navy has the deepest respect for him. So do I. Thanks for pointing out the picture.

hawkdriver on June 15, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Thanks for pointing out the picture.

hawkdriver on June 15, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Thanks for the explanation.

gh on June 15, 2014 at 9:09 AM

Happy Fathers’ Day, Hot Air!

Miss you Pops! We used to beg him to sing this to us at night. He would only sing it once in a great while because it was so long. His voice was much better than this guy’s (dad was a tenor) but this is the entire song. He used to sing us Americana hobo and cowboy songs, we just loved hearing him sing.

I’m a-layin’ around just spendin’ my time,
Out of a job and ain’t holdin’ a dime,
When a fellow steps up and says, “I suppose
That you’re a bronc fighter by the looks of your clothes.”
“You figures me right, I’m a good one,” I claim,
“Do you happen to have any bad ones to tame?”
He says he’s got one, a bad one to buck,
And for throwin’ good riders, he’s had lots of luck…

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Happy Father’s Day………How Do We Treat Out Fathers In This Country?

williamg on June 15, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Weird. I just went to your link and saw “hobo”. I seriously hadn’t seen that before I wrote my post. Strange.

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 9:10 AM

My daughter rides … I will send her the link … I listened to the whole thing while reading the lyrics. Educational and amusing though I suspect a younger singer might be tempted to substitute F for B in couple of places.

gh on June 15, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Yodelin’ Slim Clark – Strawberry Roan (1947).

This guy has a better voice.

gh on June 15, 2014 at 9:28 AM

gh on June 15, 2014 at 9:21 AM

There are a ton of versions of Strawberry Roan. It appeared it got cleaned up lyrically and shortened a number of times. If she likes old cowboy songs, Empty Saddles is a good one, too. Sorry, getting sentimental this morning.

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Another:
Yodelling Slim Clark – Yellow Rose Of Texas (1962).

gh on June 15, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Dad sang that one, too. Funny thing, dad could yodel but he’d tell us not to, “Yodeling ruins your voice” he’d say. Not a worry, I couldn’t yodel to save my life, I can barely carry a tune. My kids can all sing well but that talent skipped right over me. When asked if I sing, I tell people somebody has to sit in the audience and clap.

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 9:47 AM

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Got my ole yeller Ford stuck pretty dang good yesterday. Fixin to go get the tractor started up to pull it out. I’ll be whistlin that one all day. ; )

Bmore on June 15, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 9:42 AM

My daughter likes horses (and animals generally). She has her own taste in music … but I liked the story in the lyrics.

gh on June 15, 2014 at 9:51 AM

I tell people somebody has to sit in the audience and clap.

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 9:47 AM

Self-deprecating humor is important for a father. I’ll bet you’re a good one.

crankyoldlady on June 15, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Self-deprecating humor is important for a father. I’ll bet you’re a good one.

crankyoldlady on June 15, 2014 at 9:52 AM

I make a better mother. :-)

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 10:00 AM

I’ll be whistlin that one all day. ; )

Bmore on June 15, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Remember when people used to whistle? It’s a lost art. Hope you get your truck out, bmore.

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 10:02 AM

I make a better mother. :-)

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 10:00 AM

I’m sorry. I have to laugh. I’m trying to do 3 things at once and lost track of who I was posting to. I think I confused you with Bmore and his truck.

crankyoldlady on June 15, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Isn’t having multiple names a ban-worthy offense? And isn’t creating a new name after being banned previously also ban worthy?

bluegill on June 15, 2014 at 2:19 AM

So is lying. But you and lourdes are still here.

cozmo on June 15, 2014 at 10:13 AM

Sometimes people could try to show a little more discipline when it comes to how they use the comment section here. Try to keep things at least somewhat related to the article topics.

bluegill on June 15, 2014 at 2:26 AM

Take your own advice and stop lying you hypocrite.

cozmo on June 15, 2014 at 10:14 AM

I make a better mother. :-)

Fallon on June 15, 2014 at 10:00 AM

That’s what I remember … but it’s hard to keep track so I left it to you to make the correction.

gh on June 15, 2014 at 10:23 AM

The NY Republican chairman is on Fox pushing the establishment line. We’re going to take control of the senate and then win big in 2016. Clueless as to why Cantor lost.

crankyoldlady on June 15, 2014 at 10:29 AM

Sometimes people could try to show a little more discipline when it comes to how they use the comment section here. Try to keep things at least somewhat related to the article topics.

blueballs on June 15, 2014 at 2:26 AM

…yes…every thread should somehow reflect on an amnesty issue.

KOOLAID2 on June 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Let’s see the proof.

bluegill on June 15, 2014 at 2:36 AM

You are messing with these people’s heads. Some are quite obsessive and loony. Be careful.

bluegill on June 15, 2014 at 2:37 AM

And I say I be careful because you don’t know what one of the loonies will do to try to identify you. Some people on here take things very, very seriously. You seem pretty savvy about the whole commenting thing, so I’m sure this isnt news to you, though.

bluegill on June 15, 2014 at 2:40 AM

…I need some of those meds!….do you think the meds are legal?

KOOLAID2 on June 15, 2014 at 12:48 PM

KOOLAID2 on June 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Hehehe! Blueballs. Thanks for my daily chuckle KOOLAID! :-)

Judge_Dredd on June 15, 2014 at 1:24 PM

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