Quotes of the day

posted at 8:21 pm on June 13, 2014 by Allahpundit

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), issued a rare audio message back on January 21 in which he flatly stated his group’s intention to march on Baghdad and move into “direct confrontation” with the United States.

“Our last message is to the Americans. Soon we will be in direct confrontation, and the sons of Islam have prepared for such a day,” Baghdadi said. “So watch, for we are with you, watching.”

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Florida’s Rubio delivered a lengthy floor speech on Thursday arguing that “the choice before us will be whether we take action now, or we take action later.” He warned that ignoring the chaos in the country, which U.S. troops withdrew from in 2011 after years of war, raised the risk that it would turn into a safe haven for terrorists who could threaten America and its allies…

Meanwhile, Kentucky’s Paul, a libertarian-leaning politician, expressed deep reservations about renewed American military involvement in Iraq, and outlined concerns that Congress wouldn’t be sufficiently consulted before action was taken.

“I hate that Mosul is falling, but I also think that for 10 years we have supplied the Iraqis and they can’t stand up and do anything to defend their country, and it is all up to us?” he said during questions to a panel before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

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Hillary Clinton said the United States should not provide military assistance – particularly airstrikes – to the Iraqi government “at this time” in response to the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and other militants…

“That is not a role for the United States,” Clinton said. “There needs to be a number of steps that [Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al] Maliki and his government must take to demonstrate that he is committed to an inclusive Iraq, something he has not done up to date.”

Clinton also said that the Iraqi Army – “which has not been able to hold territory” – needs “an injection of discipline and professionalism” before any help could be considered.

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The prime minister and his ruling party have behaved like thugs, excluding the Sunnis from power, using the army, police forces and militias to terrorize their opponents. The insurgency the Maliki government faces today was utterly predictable because, in fact, it happened before. From 2003 onward, Iraq faced a Sunni insurgency that was finally tamped down by Gen. David Petraeus, who said explicitly at the time that the core element of his strategy was political, bringing Sunni tribes and militias into the fold. The surge’s success, he often noted, bought time for a real power-sharing deal in Iraq that would bring the Sunnis into the structure of the government…

But how did Maliki come to be prime minister of Iraq? He was the product of a series of momentous decisions made by the Bush administration. Having invaded Iraq with a small force — what the expertTom Ricks called “the worst war plan in American history” — the administration needed to find local allies. It quickly decided to destroy Iraq’s Sunni ruling establishment and empower the hard-line Shiite religious parties that had opposed Saddam Hussein. This meant that a structure of Sunni power that had been in the area for centuries collapsed. These moves — to disband the army, dismantle the bureaucracy and purge Sunnis in general — might have been more consequential than the invasion itself…

Washington is debating whether airstrikes or training forces would be more effective, but its real problem is much larger and is a decade in the making. In Iraq, it is defending the indefensible.

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The Iraqi security forces don’t have troops capable of relaying detailed targeting information, which would likely require the Pentagon or the CIA to send small numbers of American personnel into Iraq to handle that difficult mission. Without adequate ground intelligence, the United States could run the risk of accidentally killing Iraqi security forces or, even worse, civilians.

“Airstrikes are tricky,” Matthew Henman, head of IHS Jane’s Terrorism and Insurgency Center, said. “In an urban environment, they can become indiscriminate, resulting in civilians killed and infrastructure damaged.”…

“The one thing the government and the West can’t do is further alienate the Sunni population in the north and west [by accidentally killing Sunnis in errant airstrikes],” Henman said. “Otherwise, any U.S. involvement would be easily construed and utilized for ISIS propaganda.”

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This situation makes me think I was wrong when I supported the idea of having a small “residual force” of perhaps 10,000 troops based near Baghdad to support the Iraqi government and to discourage coups. If we had troops there now, we would be facing the choice of pulling them out under fire or reinforcing them, two equally unpalatable choices.

No, I don’t think we should do airstrikes. The last thing we need is American pilots being held prisoner by the new guys. And where would you base your combat search & rescue helicopters, and what do you do when one of them gets show down? I don’t think Obama faces hard choices in Iraq.

The one interesting suggestion I’ve heard is that the U.S. government make military aid to Iraq dependent on Maliki stepping down. But I think Iran has more say in that than we do.

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I’ve long argued that the only thing that would force Maliki to change his ways would be his perception that his survival depended on it. When U.S. troops were fighting his war and securing his rule, he consistently refused to make the political accommodations that his U.S. advisers pushed upon him. After U.S. troops left, he enjoyed sufficient political strength and military security to strike the kind of political deal that could have consolidated a legitimate Iraqi order. Instead, he moved to consolidate his personal power and punish Sunni political opponents. When he went to Washington seeking military and political support in October 2013 amidst an escalating insurgency and political tensions, he could have taken the opportunity to change course before it was too late.

Maliki might now, for the first time, feel real pressure, which could force real concessions. His first instinct, naturally, has been to try to use the crisis to expand his power by calling an emergency session of parliament to pass a truly objectionable emergency law, which would give the prime minister virtually untrammeled dictatorial powers. Iraq’s parliament might be able to thwart that particular power grab (it could not muster a quorum in today’s first attempt). But it’s clear that his political instincts remain unchanged.

Maliki wants U.S. military aid, from helicopters to airstrikes, to fight the ISIS advance. Many in Washington will want to offer assistance to save Iraq from complete collapse. But at the same time, U.S. policymakers understand from painful experience that such military aid will simply enable Maliki’s autocratic sectarianism and allow him to avoid making any serious concessions. Yes, the United States should try to use this moment of leverage to attach political conditions to any military aid. But such leverage is going to face an obvious problem: It will be virtually impossible to force any meaningful political moves in the midst of an urgent crisis, and any promises made now will quickly be forgotten once the crisis has passed.

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Broadened tools, soft power, carrots and sticks in the form of sanctions, and international law are the means by which liberal internationalists such as Obama limit the range of forceful U.S. action on the world stage. They are the ingredients in the foreign-policy recipe that has brought chaos to the Middle East—including more than 150,000 Syrians dead and an empowered Iran—and has given us the Russian annexation of Crimea, guerrilla war in eastern Ukraine, a bullying China, a degraded U.S. military, and a disapproving American public.

But Obama does not disapprove. He sees his foreign policy as a success. “Standing with our allies on behalf of international order, working with international institutions, has given a chance for the Ukrainian people to choose their future—without us firing a shot,” Obama said at West Point. Yesterday Ukraine said that Russian tanks had crossed its border. “It is possible we are victims of our own leadership,” a senior administration official said of Iraq in an interview with the Wall Street Journal. That official is right: global security is the victim of our own leadership. Our elected leadership.

“We are winding down our war in Afghanistan,” Obama said in his “long speech about this.” Can he really look at the images coming from Iraq and not recognize that they are a preview of what is to come when America leaves Afghanistan? Obama has not only proposed the wrong solutions to the problem of a degrading international order. He fails to see the problem altogether. He is more concerned with the limits of American power than with its responsibilities.

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As Sunni terrorists make gains in Iraq, it’s triggered a political debate in the United States not only about what to do, but also over who is to blame for the country’s deterioration. Is it President George W. Bush for invading in the first place, or President Obama for mishandling the withdrawal? Whatever the merits of the case against Obama, conservatives should realize that no matter how bad things get, Americans are very unlikely to blame him for what’s happening.

The public isn’t focused, say, on the nuances of Obama’s negotiations on the status of forces agreement with Iraq. Most likely, they see the current violence in Iraq as totally expected, and are just glad American soldiers aren’t in the middle of it…

The only way this becomes a political problem for Obama is if he intervenes and things don’t improve or get dramatically worse. Which is likely another reason why he’s reluctant to get involved.

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But what makes his remarks especially galling is that we helped create this problem. We tore Iraq apart. And we coddled and supported the Maliki regime, which has worsened the country’s sectarianism. (Obama mentioned the small-mindedness of Iraq’s leaders, but not our decision to coddle them.) Thus, for Obama to say that this is an Iraqi problem and Iraq “as a sovereign nation” (whatever that now means) must solve it involves a gigantic shirking of responsibility.

Yes, even if this is our problem, it’s not clear what America can or should do, which is why remarks like those from John McCain, who called this “an existential threat” and seems to want some sort of huge response, are alarming. But that doesn’t let the United States off the hook, and certainly not at the rhetorical level. Would Obama say that the Cambodian genocide was ultimately up to the Cambodians to solve, after America bombed and destabilized the country? Was the genocide in the former Yugoslavia a Bosnian problem, even though the West kept an arms embargo on the Bosnians, essentially preventing them from defending themselves?

Perhaps America should choose to involve itself less in the quarrels of others. But once America does so, it cannot then exempt itself from responsibility on whatever timetable it pleases.

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The problem is not that these Iraqis weren’t well trained and equipped, it was they did not have a government worth fighting for. The Maliki government is Shiite, exclusionary and anti-Sunni. It is corrupt and inefficient. In sum, like most of these great freedom-fighting government we’ve backed over the decades—corrupt and inefficient. And certainly non-inclusive in its politics, certainly not welcoming of potential opponents, certainly ill-disposed to give non-Shiites a legitimate share of power. So the Iraqi troops throw down their arms and run away.

No amount of U.S. air and drone attacks will alter this situation. This kind of outcome was inevitable for Iraq given the political lay of the land in that country. It is almost certainly what’s going to happen in Afghanistan. There too, we’ve fought and died, equipped and trained hundreds of thousands of Afghan troops. The Kabul government is a corrupt mess not worth fighting for. There too, Americans should not be surprised if the Taliban soon regains the offensive and Afghan troops take off their uniforms, lay down their arms and run. Remember Vietnam? The South Vietnamese had a million and a half men under arms and despite the unconscionable Congressional cutoff of future aid, these armed forces had plenty to fight with. But they gave up too…

Why don’t our “good guys,” our plentiful men in arms, our decently to very well-equipped security forces fight as well as the jihadis in Syria or Iraq or as well as the Taliban in Afghanistan or the North Vietnamese in Vietnam? It’s that motivation that is central to victory. If our “good guys” can’t supply this motivation for themselves, Americans should have learned by now that we in our goodness and kindness and sacrifice cannot supply it for them. That’s the central lesson of warfare for more than half a century. That’s the essential moral Americans can’t seem to learn.

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Ratso!

OmahaConservative on June 13, 2014 at 8:21 PM

SCOAMF!

PolAgnostic on June 13, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Earliest QOTD ever?

/Bishop!

As Obama jets off to the weekend, he once again demonstrates the infallible Democrat ability to grasp defeat from victory in war.

ConstantineXI on June 13, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Ratso!

OmahaConservative on June 13, 2014 at 8:21 PM


Dang nab ratz-fratzing OC!

PolAgnostic on June 13, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Dang nab ratz-fratzing OC!

PolAgnostic on June 13, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Heh…

OmahaConservative on June 13, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Earliest QOTD ever?

ConstantineXI on June 13, 2014 at 8:22 PM

No.

Has hagfish or lourdes been around?

I’m in a mood.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Ratso,Bishop,SCOAMF,Me.Am I 1st or late?

docflash on June 13, 2014 at 8:25 PM

ISIS = Islamic States of Iraq and Syria

ISIL = Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

The Levant region includes Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Cyprus, Hatay, Sinai, Iraq, Turkey, and Egypt.

We need to watch ISIL more-so than ISIS. They are linked with al-Qaeda. Some believe the goal is for al-Qaeda to develop their own country by overcoming the above countries.

Iran’s offer to help the Iraqi government is self-serving. (No surprise there.) A united Levant would be a tremendous threat to Iran.

It is a very serious situation which on the surface appears to have caught obama flatfooted. I don’t know with which group of islamists obama claims membership. I think different ones here have in the past mentioned it. The answer to that will determine his actions.

I am not wise enough to know what should be done. The ISIL is extremely brutal as we have seen. It is open season on non-muslims.

I am concerned about the Christians in those areas and, of course Israel. And we know what obama feels about both groups.

The Middle East is exploding. One aircraft carrier will maybe allow Americans to be evacuated, but so far the muslim in the white House is ignoring them.

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:07 PM

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:26 PM

SCOAMF!

PolAgnostic on June 13, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Seconded! And hopefully someone doesn’t come up with the wrong game of teacher.

Judge_Dredd on June 13, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Blah blah blah. It’s QOTD time!

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 13, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Has hagfish or lourdes been around?

I’m in a mood.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Not yet, but things got interesting with Hagfish last night after I left…

OmahaConservative on June 13, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Has hagfish or lourdes been around?

I’m in a mood.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:25 PM

I saw Meredith in the Walker gay thread. But she didn’t have the belly to fight. Just drop a trucon bomb and run.

Judge_Dredd on June 13, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Can somebody give me something to read on the Kurds? I’d like to learn more about why they seem to have their sh!t in one sock while Iran & Iraq don’t. Thanks in advance

Oh, and P.S. why didn’t we utilize their help from Day One?

8 weight on June 13, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Even Geraldo calling O’s response to the Iraq crisis wimpy. Why is he going to North Dakota in the middle of this crisis? This is the worse failing to date.

I was sure all of you were waiting breathlessly to hear what Geraldo had to say. Seriously, I was surprised to hear him so vehement.

esr1951 on June 13, 2014 at 8:28 PM

If only we had the wisdom of the modern democrat party leadership and removed MacArthur from Japan before he screwed up that country, and if only we had gotten our troops out of South Korea as quickly as possible we wouldn’t be facing a belligerent China right now.

Joseph OHenry on June 13, 2014 at 8:28 PM

OT, with all the craziness going on in Iraq, it would be easy to forget that Boehner et al is trying to rush through a vote to ensure that the liberal amnesty pusher and CA blue stater McCarthy (with 35% Latino in his district) is a shoe in for Majority Leader.

This is an excellent thread on the danger of McCarthy winning and pushing amnesty to the floor in August, as Paul Ryan is already saying there will be an August vote on “immigration reform”: http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/13/kevin-mccarthy-to-lobbyists-chamber-of-commerce-dont-worry-itll-be-business-as-usual-in-the-house/comment-page-1/

anotherJoe on June 13, 2014 at 8:29 PM

What now?

Come on, AP, The Destroyer has only one card left to play: Surrender (Peace at any cost)!

ShainS on June 13, 2014 at 8:29 PM

The carrier headed to the ME is the George H. W. Bush.

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:29 PM

I predicted the other day that President Obama will be appointed to the Supreme Court sometime in the 2020s, I stand by the prediction.

LaughterJones on June 13, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on June 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Oh, an interesting article from last year concerning McCarthy & the R leadership: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/house-gop-leaders-well-pass-gun-control-immigration-without-republican-support/

An excerpt:

McCarthy believes that “It is better if the House does their work. We should be sending bills to the Senate.”

McCarthy went on to say, “I would not underestimate the House’s ability to pass an immigration bill. I think we have plenty of ideas on that and I think that we can move the ball as well.”

CNN’s Candy Crowley pointed out that McCarthy would not give her a straight answer on whether he would uphold the Hastert rule.

anotherJoe on June 13, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Release the Kraken!
arm iran’s shia military and let them go after the sunnis.

athenadelphi on June 13, 2014 at 8:32 PM

The Democratic party is the American party of crooks and thieves.

Evening all.

Gingotts on June 13, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Blah blah blah. It’s QOTD time!

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 13, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Hmmm…

OmahaConservative on June 13, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Can somebody give me something to read on the Kurds? I’d like to learn more about why they seem to have their sh!t in one sock while Iran & Iraq don’t. Thanks in advance

Oh, and P.S. why didn’t we utilize their help from Day One?

8 weight on June 13, 2014 at 8:28 PM

From last October: http://kurdistanskyscrapers.com/topic/9257450/1/

Also note my comments above on the Levant.

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Hey Koch, that is copyright protected. :-) the bill will be sent soon.

coolrepublica on June 13, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Hmmm…

OmahaConservative on June 13, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Same group. Different people.

Judge_Dredd on June 13, 2014 at 8:34 PM

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:07 PM

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Yeah, but they are over extended with a long trek home.

Its one thing to hide something the size of a squad. Quite another thing to keep several thousand supplied.

al-qaeda-jihadists-will-stop-at-nothing/

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:27 PM

They will stop. And be destroyed. Unless every government in the area is as stupid as 0bama.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:34 PM

I predicted the other day that President Obama will be appointed to the Supreme Court sometime in the 2020s, I stand by the prediction.

LaughterJones on June 13, 2014 at 8:30 PM

obaME deserves to be in court waayyy before 2020………..

VegasRick on June 13, 2014 at 8:35 PM

From CNN iReport. Tried to link it but my comment didn’t go through:

I am writing from ballad Iraq as a employee of sallyport, ksillc..there are approx 500 US citizens on balad air base north of Baghdad trapped..we are part of a little known F16 iraq support mission here…The company has reportedly for the last 3 days to fly us out, we are now all herded into a central location on base..and being told nothing..The clint lockheed martin, DoS and most women have already been evacuated days ago but we are all still here. I hope this message is received by someone that can break this as headline news to bring attention to the situation for us..we are all worried and in dire straight as last security Intel reports Isis elements around us..

Obama doesn’t leave “his people” behind. All others pay cash?

Naturally Curly on June 13, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Not yet, but things got interesting with Hagfish last night after I left…

OmahaConservative on June 13, 2014 at 8:27 PM

More hand holding navel gazing with the trolls?

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I’m in a mood.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:25 PM

maybe this can cheer you up a bit..
it is a great time to be an idea man..

http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/13/5806104/nasas-warp-drive-spaceship-concept-enterprise

going2mars on June 13, 2014 at 8:36 PM

I predicted the other day that President Obama will be appointed to the Supreme Court sometime in the 2020s, I stand by the prediction.

LaughterJones on June 13, 2014 at 8:30 PM

would bill ayers write all of his opinions for him?

/wingnut

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 13, 2014 at 8:36 PM

They will stop. And be destroyed. Unless every government in the area is as stupid as 0bama.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:34 PM

I hope they do. Please understand that I do not claim to be anywhere near an authority on this.

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:36 PM

*splash*

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:36 PM

From CNN iReport. Tried to link it but my comment didn’t go through:

Naturally Curly on June 13, 2014 at 8:35 PM

HA doesn’t like CNN links.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Naturally Curly on June 13, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Hot Air mod won’t allow the c*n*n URL. I use http://tinyurl.com/

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:38 PM

coolrepublica on June 13, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Flagged.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 13, 2014 at 8:39 PM

In 2007, President George W. Bush warned that if America withdrew prematurely from Iraq, American troops would eventually have to return:

To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready … would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous. [EMPHASIS ADDED].

Well just an hour ago, the Washington Post reported:

President Obama said Thursday it is now clear Iraq will need help from the United States as the situation there deteriorates, adding that he wouldn’t “rule out anything,” including drone strikes and air strikes, but not ground troops.

“What we’ve seen over the last couple of days indicates the degree to which Iraq’s going to need more help,” Obama said during a meeting with Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott at the White House. “So my team is working around the clock to identify how we can provide the most effective assistance to them. I don’t rule out anything, because we do have a stake in making sure that these jihadists are not getting a permanent foothold in either Iraq or Syria, for that matter.”

He’s not ruling anything out, you see – except ground troops. He’s ruling that out.

Let’s recall that Obama inherited a pacified Iraq, where al Qaeda had been defeated — both militarily and ideologically.

Militarily, thanks to Bush’s surge, al Qaeda was driven from the strongholds it had established in Anbar and other Iraqi provinces. It controlled no major territory, and it’s top leader – Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi – had been killed.

Ideologically, al Qaeda had suffered a massive rejection by the Sunni masses. Iraq was supposed to be a place where al Qaeda rallied Sunnis to drive America out. Instead, the Sunnis joined with Americans to drive al Qaeda out. That was a major ideological defeat.

So al Qaeda in Iraq (now ISIS) had been beaten on the battlefield and rejected by the Sunnis it claimed to represent. In fact, the situation Obama inherited was so good that the Obama administration was actually trying to take credit for it. Joe Biden declared that Iraq “could be one of the great achievements of [the Obama] administration.”

Obama took that inheritance and squandered it. And – just as Bush predicted – we’re now talking about going back (at least in the air) to help the Iraqis to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.

Is this how wars end in the 21st century, Mr. President?

Resist We Much on June 13, 2014 at 8:40 PM

I think it’s critical that we stop McCarthy from becoming Majority Leader as Boehner wants. Or amnesty may very well pass this year, in August I predict, as Ryan says it will.

anotherJoe on June 13, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Release the Kraken!
arm iran’s shia military and let them go after the sunnis.

athenadelphi on June 13, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Is obama shia or sunni?

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Is obama shia or sunni?

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:41 PM

i heard he goes both ways

/wingnut

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 13, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Blah blah blah. It’s QOTD time!

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 13, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on June 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Resist We Much on June 13, 2014 at 8:42 PM

going2mars on June 13, 2014 at 8:36 PM

That is one sexy machine.

Alcubierre drive, I’m liking it even more.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:42 PM

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Thanks, I’ll try that next time. It was posted 15 hours ago. These guys might be out by now, or they might be dead. Hope it doesn’t throw off obama’s swing in palm beach. Spit.

Naturally Curly on June 13, 2014 at 8:43 PM

I’m in a mood.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Rut roh…
No chillin with my Coz tonight.

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:43 PM

HA doesn’t like CNN links.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:38 PM

I don’t why. But at least you can get the letter CNN in. Hmm, “CNN in,” that sounds like 3 Ns in a row, but it’s only 2.

anotherJoe on June 13, 2014 at 8:43 PM

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:36 PM

No problem, we are all speculating.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:43 PM

it is sunrise in
Turkmenistan / Afghanistan/ Pakistan

in an hour it will be sunrise in Iraq..
question
are there US jets on a flight line somewhere?

going2mars on June 13, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Resist We Much on June 13, 2014 at 8:42 PM

They bonded..ain’t it cute?

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM

For your perusal:

What requires understanding in this is Kenyans are Sunni Muslims who Obama is born from. Indonesians are Sunni Muslims who Obama was adopted into. Malcolm Little or X was a convert to Sunni Islam who Obama learned to be black from according to David Remnick. Louis Farrakhan or Louis Eugene Walcott, who Obama had Walcott’s followers intimidate reporters in Chicago moved the Nation of Islam Mooselums closer to Sunni theology.
Barack Obama Soetoro was financed by Saudi Sunni Islam, the same sects as Sheik bin Laden, for his schooling.
So to answer the question as to which branch of Islam that Obama’s loyalties lay, the answer is he is a Sunni Muslim.

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/08/is-obama-sunni-or-shia-muslim.html

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:45 PM

AUSTIN, Texas—Responding to the Texas border crisis, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott called on Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson to fund the state of Texas to secure the border. This request for immediate assistance comes on the heels of reports of a 92 percent increase in the crossing of the Texas border by minors.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/06/12/Abbott-Calls-For-Immediate-Response

So disappointed in Perry and Brewer. As far as I know, they have done nothing, although Brewer at least has fired off some angry letters.

cat_owner on June 13, 2014 at 8:45 PM

I’m in a mood.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:25 PM

and without pants

22044 on June 13, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Again:

Hypothesis: Obama is Sunni
Percent confident that I am correct: 80%

Proof:
1. His biological father is Sunni (the majority of Kenyan’s are Sunni)
2. His mom converted to Sunni
3. His biological brother Malik says he was raised Sunni
4. His grandmother is Sunni
5. His second dad, the indonesian oil exec, was Sunni
6. He employs Sunnis to work directly for him in DC.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080718191007AAvqToq

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:46 PM

So disappointed in Perry and Brewer. As far as I know, they have done nothing, although Brewer at least has fired off some angry letters.

cat_owner on June 13, 2014 at 8:45 PM

+100

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:48 PM

That is one sexy machine.

Alcubierre drive, I’m liking it even more.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:42 PM

a much better use of useless time than trolls my friend..
and it will lower your blood pressure.. :)

troll are WOT………(waste-o-time)
I have no idea how much time I have left…
I don’t want to WOT a single moment..

going2mars on June 13, 2014 at 8:49 PM

are there US jets on a flight line somewhere?

going2mars on June 13, 2014 at 8:43 PM

At least some Saudi and Kuwaiti aircraft.

It will be like the road to Basra all over again.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:49 PM

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Good evening! Wasn’t Tuesday night awesome?

cat_owner on June 13, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Amid Iraq Crisis, Kerry Recites Poetry

Jihadis are advancing on Baghdad, and yet the nation’s foreign policy chief today flew to London for the chance to recite a poem by Maya Angelou.

“Out of the huts of history’s shame / I rise / Up from a past that’s rooted in pain / I rise,” Secretary of State John Kerry intoned at the “Global Summit to End Sexual Violence in Conflict.”

Kerry’s poetic foray capped off his scheduled speech at the long-planned summit, where activists and diplomats met to push for new spending programs to curb rape in warfare.

“Thousands of years after rape was written into the lexicon of warfare, we know that it is time to write it out and to banish sexual violence to the dark ages and the history books where it belongs,” Kerry declared.

Meanwhile, back in Iraq, the advancing jihadis were forcing Iraqi women back into shrouds and chopping people’s heads’ off.

As if we are EVER going to write out and banish sexual violence to the dark ages and the history books!

Unfortunately, it is part of humanity and cultures that will likely never change.

I love people like Kerry. They, like those before them that actually believed that they could outlaw war (see: Kellogg–Briand Pact, 1928), believe that just wishing or willing something will make it so. They actually believe, for example, that greed can be regulated away. How ridiculous! Greed is part of humanity. Even in the most egalitarian, communistic societies, greed flourishes.

Resist We Much on June 13, 2014 at 8:50 PM

..ain’t it cute?

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM

No, but you are.

going2mars on June 13, 2014 at 8:49 PM

I’m easy to please. I like whack-A-troll.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:51 PM

If Governor Rick Perry really wants to leave a better Texas when his term ends this year, and if he wants to help bring the national government back to its legitimate role under the Constitution as he claims he does, then he should revisit a plan that was presented to him several years ago which he chose not to implement.

Using his power under the Texas Constitution, the Governor should declare a state of emergency and martial law along the Texas-Mexican border immediately.

http://thebullelephant.com/texas-invasion-coming-next/

cat_owner on June 13, 2014 at 8:51 PM

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Thanks for the links. I still don’t understand why we didn’t utilize their help? I was reading an article from Mike Totten and one of the Kurds said they wanted to be the 51st state (or Obama’s 58th state) in gratitude for killing Saddam. They like America + nobody F’s with them. I don’t get it…

8 weight on June 13, 2014 at 8:52 PM

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Good evening! Wasn’t Tuesday night awesome?

cat_owner on June 13, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Hey there CO, sure was! I was stunned as y’all reported in.
I was like..Is this real?!

I want MORE! :)

You also were on target days before!

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:53 PM

[Did I get everybody?]

Newtie and the Beauty on June 13, 2014 at 8:53 PM

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:49 PM

or anyone,,, know of a live web cam in Bagdad I could watch?
maybe we could see or hear what is flying above..
like outside the Bagdad Hilton cam or something??

going2mars on June 13, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Thanks for the links. I still don’t understand why we didn’t utilize their help? I was reading an article from Mike Totten and one of the Kurds said they wanted to be the 51st state (or Obama’s 58th state) in gratitude for killing Saddam. They like America + nobody F’s with them. I don’t get it…

8 weight on June 13, 2014 at 8:52 PM

obama – capisce?

VegasRick on June 13, 2014 at 8:54 PM

t is sunrise in Turkmenistan / Afghanistan/ Pakistan in an hour it will be sunrise in Iraq.. question are there US jets on a flight line somewhere? going2mars on June 13, 2014 at 8:43 PM

One will be. In CA.

wolly4321 on June 13, 2014 at 8:55 PM

If those trapped contractors are captured, will Obama empty Gitmo to ransom them. Releasing the Gitmo Five for Bowe may have frightening ramifications.

Tinker on June 13, 2014 at 8:56 PM

cops hit man on his porch for recoding him sends him to the hospital.

coolrepublica on June 13, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Cops or Soldiers? America’s Police Have Become Too Militarised

Feds tell local law enforcement to remain silent about cellphone surveillance

The federal government is putting pressure on local law enforcement to keep quiet about its use of Stingray and other surveillance technology used to gather data off of mobile phones.

The Associated Press reports that the Obama administration has taken the rare step of becoming actively involved with state records request cases and local criminal trials in an effort to keep details of its surveillance secret. As a result, the AP reports that police departments have either refused to turn over, or have heavily redacted, documents and materials relating to such surveillance.

One well-known piece of technology used by cops is Stingray. The device gathers information off a mobile phone by impersonating a cell tower and getting a phone to transmit data to it. According to the AP, Stingray allows police to obtain data off a mobile phone without having to get the cooperation of a user’s mobile carrier, like Verizon Wireless or AT&T.

Several civil liberties groups have tried to get state and federal agencies to release more information about what kind of information they are taking. “These extreme secrecy efforts are in relation to very controversial, local government surveillance practices using highly invasive technology,” said Nathan Freed Wessler, a staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, to the AP. “If public participation means anything, people should have the facts about what the government is doing to them.”

The FBI is contesting a lawsuit filed in Tucson, Ariz, that seeks to force it to give up its information by claiming that such disclosures would “result in the FBI’s inability to protect the public from terrorism and other criminal activity because through public disclosures, this technology has been rendered essentially useless for future investigations.”

Resist We Much on June 13, 2014 at 8:56 PM

[sets out "We Reserve The Right To Serve Whomever We Dang Well Please!" signage...activates wireless drink systems and drone delivery system...]
And the BAR is OPEN!!

Newtie and the Beauty on June 13, 2014 at 8:56 PM

And look at the intentions to extend the caliphate of ISIS are:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/isis-we-are-soldiers-of-islam-and-weve-taken-on-our-responsibility-to-bring-back-glory-of-the-islamic-caliphate

The brutal rules of the ISIS jihadists are no-nonsense.

onlineanalyst on June 13, 2014 at 8:56 PM

I don’t get it…

8 weight on June 13, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Syria, Turkey, Iran and Iraq are scared to death of them now they they have semi-autonomy and a supplied army.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:56 PM

If those trapped contractors are captured, will Obama empty Gitmo to ransom them. Releasing the Gitmo Five for Bowe may have frightening ramifications.

Tinker on June 13, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Obama thinks that it is still 2008. The majority of Americans, including Democrats, do NOT want Gitmo closed and disapprove of any more swaps.

Resist We Much on June 13, 2014 at 8:57 PM

No protracted war can fail to endanger the freedom of a democratic country. War does not always give over democratic communities to military government, but it must invariably and immeasurably increase the powers of civil government; it must almost compulsorily concentrate the direction of all men and the management of all things in the hands of the administration. If it does not lead to despotism by sudden violence, it prepares men for it more gently by their habits. All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and the shortest means to accomplish it. This is the first axiom of the science.- Alexis de Tocqueville

Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent (Iraq and Afghanistan), other chieftains (Russia and China) will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue. - Sun Tzu

1. The United States should not commit its forces to military action
overseas unless the cause is vital to our national interest.
2. If the decision is made to commit our forces to combat abroad, it must be
done with the clear intent and support needed to win. It should not be a
halfway or tentative commitment, and there must be clearly defined and
realistic objectives.
3. Before we commit our troops to combat, there must be reasonable assurance that the cause we are fighting for and the actions we take will have the support of the American people and Congress.
4. Even after all these other tests are met, our troops should be committed to combat abroad only as a last resort, when no other choice is available.
- Ronald Reagan

But don’t anyone listen to any of these men as what did they know? Just listen to McCain and Rubio and let the Republican party become the party of perpetual war and the Chamber of Commerce crony capitalists and their lobbyists.

VorDaj on June 13, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Using his power under the Texas Constitution, the Governor should declare a state of emergency and martial law along the Texas-Mexican border immediately.

http://thebullelephant.com/texas-invasion-coming-next/

cat_owner on June 13, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Go ahead. At worse case, Obama would have to sick the feds on Texas for the purpose of re-establishing “the stampede of illegal aliens from crossing into Texas.” Yeah, the stampeded needs to be stopped.

anotherJoe on June 13, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Jihadis are advancing on Baghdad, and yet the nation’s foreign policy chief today flew to London for the chance to recite a poem by Maya Angelou.

Resist We Much on June 13, 2014 at 8:50 PM

O.M.G

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:58 PM

cat_owner on June 13, 2014 at 8:51 PM

It sounds nice on paper. But, pretty much a logistical impossibility. They are crossing the border with the intention of getting caught.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 9:00 PM

VorDaj on June 13, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Do you think that Ronald Reagan would not see an Islamic state, ruled by people that even AQ leadership have excommunicated because of their barbarism and radicalism, as a national security threat to the United States?

Resist We Much on June 13, 2014 at 9:00 PM

O.M.G

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Yep. Amazing isn’t it.

VegasRick on June 13, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Shiites say the prophet’s cousin and son-in-law, Ali, was his rightful successor but he was cheated when authority went to those the Sunnis call the four “Rightfully Guided Caliphs” — Abu Bakr, Omar, Othman and, finally, Ali.

Sunnis are the majority across the Islamic world. In the Middle East, Shiites have strong majorities in Iran, Iraq and Bahrain, with significant communities in Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other parts of the Gulf.

http://news.msn.com/world/sunni-shiite-split-stems-from-dispute-over-prophet

davidk on June 13, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Hey there CO, sure was! I was stunned as y’all reported in.
I was like..Is this real?!

I want MORE! :)

You also were on target days before!

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Yes, we need a LOT more, as the country (and the world, for that matter) is in serious trouble.

It was one of the most exciting victories I can think of.

Thanks to Mark Levin and Laura Ingraham for putting Dave into the spotlight. Only reason any of us, outside of the district, even heard about him.

cat_owner on June 13, 2014 at 9:01 PM

VegasRick on June 13, 2014 at 8:54 PM

and GWB’s excuse for not engaging them?

Syria, Turkey, Iran and Iraq are scared to death of them now they they have semi-autonomy and a supplied army.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Sounds like a perfect group to wipe out all 800 ISIS that had 30,000 Iraqis shitting themselves in fear.

8 weight on June 13, 2014 at 9:01 PM

O.M.G

bazil9 on June 13, 2014 at 8:58 PM

S.O.P.

For this administration any way.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Syria, Turkey, Iran and Iraq are scared to death of them now they they have semi-autonomy and a supplied army.

cozmo on June 13, 2014 at 8:56 PM

And, now have a half of billion dollars.

Resist We Much on June 13, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Oh my gosh….. the Middle East is on fire, and Dear Leader is on his way to California for a Fundraiser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listening to Megyn right now.

cat_owner on June 13, 2014 at 9:03 PM

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