Will Democrats support Obama if he authorizes Iraq strikes?

posted at 12:31 pm on June 12, 2014 by Noah Rothman

To say that asking congressional Democrats to support renewed American military engagement in Iraq is problematic would be a dramatic understatement. Nevertheless, with ISIS rebels rapidly capturing towns and cities across Iraq, and a siege on Baghdad possible if not imminent, President Barack Obama is facing increasing pressure to consent the an Iraqi government’s request to carry out airstrikes on Islamic militant positions.

Would congressional Democrats support such a move?

In an appearance on MSNBC on Thursday, Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) was asked what it would take for her to support airstrikes on rebel targets in Iraq. She said that she needs to review the details of how broad the scope of those airstrikes would be, what tools would be used, and how effective strikes might be at neutralizing the threat. That said, however, she seemed open to the prospect of new military action in Iraq.

“Lives were lost and, in part, to try and secure Iraq as a stable nation,” Speier said. “Restoring stability there, I think, is in our country’s best interest.

Appearing on CNN on Thursday, Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), a Democrat who voted in favor of the resolution which authorized the use of force in Iraq in 2002, expressed serious reservations about reengaging in military operations in Iraq.

“I would be very, very reluctant to dive back into that,” Smith said of renewed operations in Iraq. “Are the al-Qaeda militants in Iraq threatening the U.S. in some way? Otherwise, we’d be being dragged into a war in a very difficult to predict way.”

When CNN anchor Carol Costello said that the threat to Iraqi refineries will increase the pressure on global oil markets and, thus, harm American interests, Smith clarified his caveat.

“What I was referring to was whether or not we’re talking about al-Qaeda militants who would then be plotting and planning to directly attack western targets like even the homeland,” he said. “That’s the big threat that we have to be concerned about.”

Update: In an appearance on MSNBC with host Andrea Mitchell on Thursday, Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA) urged the president to “put a plan on the table” and allow Congress to vote on a proposal for what to do in Iraq. “I would strongly recommend that the administration come to Congress very, very soon, and put some options on the table of what we should be able to do,” he said.

While he did not say whether he would or would not support contingency operations in Iraq to suppress the ISIS insurgency, he stressed his interest in seeing how the president would like to approach this issue soon. Kaine added that this Iraq conflict is an offshoot of the Syrian civil war.


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obama will be in Palm Springs tomorrow and Sat., golfing, raking in dough, love-making, etc…

Die children, die, in Iraq and at the border, in the ghettos of the USA. He doesn’t care, the first billionaire president, ever.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:32 PM

That would require making a decision.

crankyoldlady on June 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM

How come those convoys are not bombed yet?

Because they are the obama/McCain brothers of Syria.

Even AlQaida has divorced itself from these Islamists.

Lots of heads will be chopped off, on the internet to see, very soon.

obama goes to Palm Springs tomorrow.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:34 PM

So long as the checks keep coming.

rogerb on June 12, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Who does Maliki think he is, a radical Muslim terrorist, like the ones Dear Liar gave air support in Libya?

rbj on June 12, 2014 at 12:35 PM

The Left’s concern for Iraqi civilians was always BS.

Ben Hur on June 12, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Why do you assume that Obama will do so?

He already declined Iraqi gov response. Considering that ISIS/ISIL is on a blitzkrieg to Baghdad, it will be too late before long.

Which is very convenient for Obama, since he armed ISIS/ISIL in the first place.

Nevsky on June 12, 2014 at 12:35 PM

“Lives were lost and, in part, to try and secure Iraq as a stable nation,” Speier said. “Restoring stability there, I think, is in our country’s best interest.

So lets lose more lives to restore stability, again, in a country that doesn’t want our kind of stability.

If the Iraqi people wanted “stability”, the mass beheading stories would be about jihadis getting the sword.

Didn’t happen. Won’t ever happen.

If BobMbx was prezzie, I would have already called whoever and said “you blew it, you’re on your own now”

BobMbx on June 12, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Democrats will support Obama just because he is a democrat. Any perceived loss of power is bad.

DAT60A3 on June 12, 2014 at 12:36 PM

obama’s bros are building their caliphate btw. Syria and Iraq. Maliki will soon join his Shiia bros in Iran.

obama is manna from heaven for the rug-fying Islamists. He has always enabled them and the results are paying off. They thank him and those who brung obama, twice, profusely.

The Arab Spring is a global nightmare, and you have only seen the 1%, yet.

obama/Hillary destroyed all which was advanced in the world. Now you experience the regression of humanity —–> 10th century.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Lots of heads will be chopped off, on the internet to see, very soon.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Already.

Nevsky on June 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Naahhh. The big O will not do anything, let Iraq fall, and then blame President Bush.

It is so convenient for him.

esr1951 on June 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Heh, what about Hillary?

cozmo on June 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

The Left is never liberal or progressive. Quit ever calling them such.

They are always only for thuggish terrorism, so long as they are in power and stuff their pockets.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

All the chickens are coming home Barry.

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 12:38 PM

New #hashtag?

JoeHanson on June 12, 2014 at 12:38 PM

obama’s bros are building their caliphate btw. Syria and Iraq. Maliki will soon join his Shiia bros in Iran.

obama is manna from heaven for the rug-fying Islamists. He has always enabled them and the results are paying off. They thank him and those who brung obama, twice, profusely.

The Arab Spring is a global nightmare, and you have only seen the 1%, yet.

obama/Hillary destroyed all which was advanced in the world. Now you experience the regression of humanity —–> 10th century.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Israel built a house.

Ben Hur on June 12, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Why is anyone suprised by what is happening? Traitor in chief is trying to build a caliphate. He takes Jihadis side every time.

- Yemen
- Libia
- Egypt
- Syria

Nevsky on June 12, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Heh, what about Hillary?

cozmo on June 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

In her shrilly voice

“These are not dangerous gentlemen”.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:39 PM

It boggles the mind that Iraq’s armed forces — trained, and armed by us — cannot repel, or even put up resistance against irregular infantry/terrorist forces in open combat.

We’re not talking about defending against terror attacks here. This is a conventional battle, the ISIS is advancing and taking ground. They should be outnumbered, less-well equipped, and not as well trained as the Iraqi army.

But seems that Iraq’s forces just can’t put up any resistance without air support (even if the other side doesn’t have any). What a farce.

Revenant on June 12, 2014 at 12:39 PM

False premise that King Obama needs to go to Congress–but he will so he can blame them eternally…

hillsoftx on June 12, 2014 at 12:40 PM

What difference, at this point, does it matter.

hawkeye54 on June 12, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Considering that ISIS/ISIL is on a blitzkrieg to Baghdad, it will be too late before long.

Which is very convenient for Obama, since he armed ISIS/ISIL in the first place.

Nevsky on June 12, 2014 at 12:35 PM

At least he can thank them for knocking Bergdahl out of the headlines. Having thanked Bergdahl for knocking the VA out of the headlines. Having thanked the VA for knocking… ad infinitum

de rigueur on June 12, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Hmmm, if killing US Ambassadors and veterans doesn’t instill general Dem opposition, I don’t see why something like this would …

ShainS on June 12, 2014 at 12:41 PM

- Yemen
- Libya
- Egypt
- Syria

Nevsky on June 12, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Afghanistan
Pakistan
Iran
Turkey

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:41 PM

After nearly nine years, America’s war in Iraq will be over.

Obama, Oct 21, 2011

Chuck Schick on June 12, 2014 at 12:42 PM

obama is manna from heaven for the rug-flying Islamists.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:42 PM

False premise that King Obama needs to go to Congress–but he will so he can blame them eternally…

hillsoftx on June 12, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Whether or not he goes to Congress, he can and will still blame them, or Bush, or Glowbull Warming, or the Koch brothers, or the TEA party. That is what they are all there for.

hawkeye54 on June 12, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Israel built a house.

Ben Hur on June 12, 2014 at 12:38 PM

What is your point?

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:43 PM

New #hashtag?

JoeHanson on June 12, 2014 at 12:38 PM

#WillTradeKerryForMosul

ShainS on June 12, 2014 at 12:43 PM

I can’t believe that McCain is not in Baghdad, yet.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:43 PM

#BringHomeOurEmbassyStaff

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Obama will do nothing. All of his actions in the middle east have assisted the spread of Islamic extremism. If the Sunni radicals get control of Iraq, there may eventually be a war with Iran – but that’s the subject of another thread.

TarheelBen on June 12, 2014 at 12:44 PM

#WillTradeKerryForMosul

ShainS on June 12, 2014 at 12:43 PM

That’s chock full of win!

ElectricPhase on June 12, 2014 at 12:45 PM

How come those convoys are not bombed yet?

This is unbelievable, have you seen pictures of those convoy’s???…

They are in Toyota Tundra Pick-up trucks!!!… and the Iraqi forces are fleeing…are you friggin’ kidding me???!!!…a citizen militia from this country could take on these guy’s and win handily… what a joke.

And we spent how many billions on the best equipment and “training” these morons…

geeeeesh…

PatriotRider on June 12, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Better question: Do democrats even know what is going on in Iraq? Thinking takes away from democrat leisures, abusing your EBT card, shagging and aborting babies, paid protesting of whatever, and blaming republicans for all ills.
Over, under on another Obama red line?

Cheese Wheel on June 12, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Just watching him on FOX News convinces me more than ever: This man has absolutely no clue as to what he is doing. At. All. He is the epitome of what we Texans call a ‘post turtle’.

bimmcorp on June 12, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Just tell him that poppy fields make for best golf. He’ll be all over the region in no time.

Rix on June 12, 2014 at 12:47 PM

I am conflicted on this. We can’t keep doing this. Countries that wish to be independent have to learn to take care of their Sh!t. America is not a safety valve. But on the other hand we did break Iraq. We broke Libya and we keep breaking more crap. We’ve have been breaking things on the china shop way before Obama came along. Do we have a moral obligation to patch things up a bit. But ironically with each patch, the situation gets worst.

The Middle East doesn’t need America. It needs Devine intervention. I think it is time for Buddha to give that region a look.

coolrepublica on June 12, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Obama will do nothing. He doesn’t give a crap. He and the media will just blame Bush.

Jack_Burton on June 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Why would we need to BOMB BOMB BOMB Iraq if POTUS Dumb@$$ says the world is less violent?

Pelosi Schmelosi on June 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM

obama is manna from heaven for the rug-flying Toyota driving Islamists.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Fixed it Schad…

PatriotRider on June 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM

ISIS rebels

Noah continues to be a useful idiot.

AlQaeda is not dead. AQ is invading Iraq and is headed toward Baghdad.

faraway on June 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Hey, how about if we round up all of obama’s new illegal “children”, and air-drop them in Iraq? I mean, they’re looking for somewhere nicer than Mexico to live, plus, once the muslims are engaged with “caring” for obama’s “kids”, they won’t have time to be violent “peaceful” any more. EVERYBODY wins!

Pork-Chop on June 12, 2014 at 12:50 PM

In an appearance on MSNBC on Thursday, Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) was asked what it would take for her to support airstrikes on rebel targets in Iraq. She said that she needs to review the details of how broad the scope of those airstrikes would be, what tools would be used, and how effective strikes might be at neutralizing the threat. That said, however, she seemed open to the prospect of new military action in Iraq.

“Lives were lost and, in part, to try and secure Iraq as a stable nation,” Speier said. “Restoring stability there, I think, is in our country’s best interest.

Isn’t this the ignorant sl*t who said the Taliban were not terrorists, just part of the Afghan fabric. Did she know we were talking about the country and not a throw blanket?

Cheese Wheel on June 12, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Leftie heads imploding or because its obama this is ok

cmsinaz on June 12, 2014 at 12:52 PM

#WillTradeKerryForMosul

ShainS on June 12, 2014 at 12:43 PM

#WillTradeKerryForNavelLint

the_nile on June 12, 2014 at 12:53 PM

#SaveIraq

There, that should fix things. Whew…I’m exhausted.

/Barry O

Wyznowski on June 12, 2014 at 12:54 PM

President Barack Obama is facing increasing pressure to consent the an Iraqi government’s request to carry out airstrikes on Islamic militant positions.

Akzed on June 12, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Keep in mind that Obama is in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood.
The Muslim Brotherhood is Sunni…the same as ISIS.
The current Iraqi government is Shia.

Obama is on the side of the Sunni…Muslim Brotherhood…ISIS.
Obama wants an Islamic Caliphate.
So no drones from Obama against ISIS…

albill on June 12, 2014 at 12:54 PM

ISIS rebels
Noah continues to be a useful idiot.
AlQaeda is not dead. AQ is invading Iraq and is headed toward Baghdad.
faraway on June 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Isis and alqaeda have diverged. Alqeada doesn’t see itself as Isis, and Isis does see itself as alqaeda. So why are you saying alqaeda is invading Iraq when Isis is the group taking over?

coolrepublica on June 12, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Just watching him on FOX News convinces me more than ever: This man has absolutely no clue as to what he is doing. At. All. He is the epitome of what we Texans call a ‘post turtle’.

bimmcorp on June 12, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Reporter: Mr. President, considering the dire situation in Iraq, do you think you would revisit your Iraq S.O.F.A?

Obama: Well actually, our sofa is American made, from a little shop up in Maine and yes, I plan on using it every night to watch Sportscenter. Next question?

WisRich on June 12, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Would congressional Democrats support such a move?

They made it possible.

Akzed on June 12, 2014 at 12:55 PM

The Iraqis are going to have figure out what to do with Sunnis in their army. They are the ones rolling over in all these places and why the Sunni jihadi forces are making such progress.

This is why I think this is the beginning of a Sunni vs. Shia war. It is hard to see right now how it won’t devolve into that no matter what we do. The only way this does not is if the Sunni Jihadist (ISIS, etc.) alienate the general sunni population in Iraq.

There is also evidence that some former Baathist commanders and soldiers are with the Sunni Jihadists. It might explain their success as well, and improved competence. If this is true it might also explain the roll over by some Iraqi forces.

William Eaton on June 12, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Isis and alqaeda have diverged. Alqeada doesn’t see itself as Isis, and Isis does see itself as alqaeda. So why are you saying alqaeda is invading Iraq when Isis is the group taking over?

coolrepublica on June 12, 2014 at 12:55 PM

So , it depends on what the meaning of the word isis isis?..

the_nile on June 12, 2014 at 12:58 PM

albill on June 12, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Yes.
If there’s any consistency to Obama’s actions in the middle east – he will let this play out in Iraq.

TarheelBen on June 12, 2014 at 12:59 PM

The Left is never liberal or progressive. Quit ever calling them such.

They are always only for thuggish terrorism, so long as they are in power and stuff their pockets.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

As I have stated for a long time, we should call them “Regressives” in all conversations. Although feel free to refer to them as “flat-earthers” when climate change comes up!

dominigan on June 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM

#FORE

the_nile on June 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM

What would you be worried about core Al Queada (1 group) or many groups? It is much easier to fight one enemy than many.

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Be back later folks! Off to graduate my twin boys today! Woo Hoo!

VegasRick on June 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Isis and alqaeda have diverged. Alqeada doesn’t see itself as Isis, and Isis does see itself as alqaeda. So why are you saying alqaeda is invading Iraq when Isis is the group taking over?

coolrepublica on June 12, 2014 at 12:55 PM

They are Sunni; they are Islamic radicals; they have the exact same ideology and the exact same goals. They are the same regardless of what label they are using.

TarheelBen on June 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM

“What I was referring to was whether or not we’re talking about al-Qaeda militants who would then be plotting and planning to directly attack western targets like even the homeland,” he said. “That’s the big threat that we have to be concerned about.”

…silly man!…al-Qaeda is dead…and GM is doing re-calls!

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Right now Bambi is hunkered down in the WH focusing like a laser on Iraq with his political advisers …

… his military and foreign policy advisers will have to wait until after his golf outing.

PackerBronco on June 12, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Isis and alqaeda have diverged. Alqeada doesn’t see itself as Isis, and Isis does see itself as alqaeda. So why are you saying alqaeda is invading Iraq when Isis is the group taking over?

coolrepublica on June 12, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Not to intervene in a question to someone else…but I view them all as Sunni Jihadist groups. Sometimes they bicker over who is charge, hence the AQ and ISIS, etc. split. They will kiss and makeup once this becomes a full fledged Sunni vs. Shia fight.

To me it is silly to differentiate between them. They all have the same goals, ideals, and are strict followers of the Sunni version of the Islamic faith.

William Eaton on June 12, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Be back later folks! Off to graduate my twin boys today! Woo Hoo!

VegasRick on June 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM

…enjoy yourself!

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Congrats Vegas :)

cmsinaz on June 12, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Why would Obama ask Congress? That would be a first.
The last thing democrats want is for him to go to them and ask, thus forcing them to make a decision their base will hate right before the midterms.
They would much rather he do as he has been doing- go it alone and take the heat without involving them directly. He has no more elections and has not been shy about doing as he pleases.
That said, the political optics of helicopters evacuating the Baghdad Embassy WILL hurt democrats and provide ample video evidence of their fecklessness in foreign affairs, if any were needed.
Obama sending in the Air Force would probably boost his numbers and avoid those pictures.

Curmudgeon on June 12, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Isis and alqaeda have diverged. Alqeada doesn’t see itself as Isis, and Isis does see itself as alqaeda. So why are you saying alqaeda is invading Iraq when Isis is the group taking over?

coolrepublica on June 12, 2014 at 12:55 PM

ISIS pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda in 2004.

ISIS began as al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

faraway on June 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Damn right they will, probably by reminding all you chickenhawks that Dog Eater won a Nobel Peace Prize for not being a warmongering thug like Dubya.

Bishop on June 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM

If Obozo does nothing to help Iraq, then they will most definitely look to Iran. Is that what Jugears wants? Because that is what he will get. That will be an even harder thing to address. And if Iran gets involved by protecting the leaders of Iraq, they will be their new “friends” with American having lost all of that blood and money for even less than we already thought.

The ineptitude of O is just appalling. That includes all of the people that work for/with him. Hands down pitiful.

Patriot Vet on June 12, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Right now Bambi is hunkered down in the WH focusing like a laser on Iraq with his political advisers …

… his military and foreign policy advisers will have to wait until after his golf outing.

PackerBronco on June 12, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Don’t forget.

Game 4 of the NBA Finals are tonight, so it’s heavy plate.

sentinelrules on June 12, 2014 at 1:13 PM

ISIS rebels

Huh. So they’re all natural born Iraqis?

Akzed on June 12, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Barack Obama, through his hatred of George W. Bush and the United States military, has succeeded in having wasted 4500 American lives and countless thousands of American limbs, by capitulating and shirking his DUTIES as POTUS & CIC. Pulling out of Iraq with no S.O.F.A. and no presence at all, simply gave the entire country over to the terrorists. Doesn’t matter what name you give the terrorists, Freedom , Liberty, and the United States have suffered a humiliating defeat. And if anyone is thinking that Vladimir Putin is not keenly observing this colossal display of incompetence, cowardice, and weakness, y’all are as blind as your Muslim President.

I would give all that I have just to hear what George W. Bush would have to say about this whole sordid business..

bimmcorp on June 12, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Don’t forget.

Game 4 of the NBA Finals are tonight, so it’s heavy plate.

sentinelrules on June 12, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Yep…and with the Heat down 2-1, you can beat that Barky has Lebron on speakerphone, absorbing all of that Presidential advice on how to up his game.

bimmcorp on June 12, 2014 at 1:17 PM

When CNN anchor Carol Costello said that the threat to Iraqi refineries will increase the pressure on global oil markets and, thus, harm American interests,

We are a net exporter of oil, Ms. Costello. Could you say what percentage of our oil comes from Iraq if you had a gun to your vacant skull?

“…That was Mrs. Obama back in 2010, when she signed the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act into law,” Carol Costello declared.

If she worked for an actual news organization and not a propaganda factory, should would have been fired when she said this.

Akzed on June 12, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Yep…and with the Heat down 2-1, you can beat that Barky has Lebron on speakerphone, absorbing all of that Presidential advice on how to up his game.

bimmcorp on June 12, 2014 at 1:17 PM

“So here’s how you drain a 3 pointer…hello? Helloooo? Shiite, we must have lost connection.”

Bishop on June 12, 2014 at 1:22 PM

So lets lose more lives to restore stability, again, in a country that doesn’t want our kind of stability.

If the Iraqi people wanted “stability”, the mass beheading stories would be about jihadis getting the sword.

Didn’t happen. Won’t ever happen.

If BobMbx was prezzie, I would have already called whoever and said “you blew it, you’re on your own now”

BobMbx on June 12, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Exactly.
Bombing Iraq only postpones the ISIS takeover. It may be weeks instead of days or a few months instead of weeks, but it will happen. Only boots on the ground would make a real difference but the U.S. cannot afford that financially/politically costly option. This is what I thought would happen since day 1 of the Iraq war: remove a dictator who would be replaced by an even worse government.

shubalstearns on June 12, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Quick…somebody produce a youtube video we can blame this on!

freedomfirst on June 12, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Will Democrats support Obama if he authorizes Iraq strikes?

Obama didn’t ask Congress about bombing in Libya, why does he need permission to do so in Iraqi? Oh right, would help a U.S. ally.

LouisianaLightning on June 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Truman allowed Korea to be divided in half and the result millions live in a POW camp.

Kennedy started the Vietnam war and American Fighting men won the war, then the Democrats (Truman a Democrat) in Congress cut off the money and millions died in Laos, Cambodia and S. Vietnam.

Democrats voted to go into Iraq in the House and Senate, but now like always they cut and run and let millions be killed by the worst monsters on the planet.

Democrats now lust for these wide open borders that Islamic ones of terror are now using to enter the heart lands.

They will get many more killed.

They lie.

Lies kill.

Truth is life.

Seek truth.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Have the American people woken up to the fact that GEORGE W. BUSH WAS RIGHT???

Steve Z on June 12, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Geroge Bush and Rick Perry are both hideing under their desk.

Well Rick Perry is out in Calif. testing his run for Pres. as the Texas border and the citizens of Texas are over run by illegals.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 12, 2014 at 1:38 PM

So, on the Bush’s and the R’s.

Why did they not push to win with McCain or Romney?

The biggest fight they ever put up is aginst conservatives in the Republican Primay elections.

When its the commie Democrats…. hands across the isle.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 12, 2014 at 1:40 PM

“Put a plan on the table”?

That would require that Obama put something in writing. In order to do that, he’d have to make some decisions.

Ain’t gonna happen. The golf links beckon.

GarandFan on June 12, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Anyone in the Obama administration going to ask the government of Iraq what they need or want us to do to help? Or are they going to ‘go it alone’ again like they did with the prisoner swap?

And why does anyone think Obama has to get congressional authorization to do anything, other than as political cover?

The past 5 and a half years have shown over and over that Obama and company can come up with a legal rationalization for whatever they want to do, and they will proceed if they believe it is good for them politically.

s1im on June 12, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Find the location of large groups of the ISIS rebels and drop a few daisy cutters on there asses!

MCGIRV on June 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

I will never understand Americans who want to get entangled militarily in other countries that have no system of beliefs as we do. The reason the Iraqi army is falling apart is that they are made up of Sunnis and Shiites. They can’t stand each other and therefore they won’t fight with each other.

Talk about ineptitude. Why, oh why, do we get involved in other people’s problems? We could have bombed Iraq after 9/11 and been done with it. No loss of life, no need for troops on the ground, no wounded veterans coming home and looking back wondering what the h*** all their efforts were for. And in the meantime we are paying for this war(s) with money we have to borrow from China. Wake up! We can’t afford to be the policeman of the world when no one is is paying their fair share (I’m looking at you, NATO.).

Geesh, people. Why can’t we just leave it be? It’s like a dog going back to its vomit. Disgusting.

Deckard BR on June 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

bimmcorp on June 12, 2014

With Father’s Day coming up, do you think Barky will be polishing up his golf game?

gonnjos on June 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Afganistan slipping back into the 7th Century.
Iraq slipping into hell.
Iran slipping into Iraq.
Syra slipping each which way AND into Iraq.
Libya slipping who knows where.
Egypt slipping back to oligarchy.
Califate getting ready to slip into EVERYWHERE.
Price of oil on the rise. A RECORD steady increase since 2006 when the Gimmedats took control of the government. Remember?
Must be time for King Putt to head for Vegas for a little fund raising and a few rounds of golf.
Stupid Americans.

Missilengr on June 12, 2014 at 3:50 PM

President Obama will vote “Present”.

patch on June 12, 2014 at 4:05 PM

When CNN anchor Carol Costello said that the threat to Iraqi refineries will increase the pressure on global oil markets and, thus, harm American interests, Smith clarified his caveat.

So….she’s advocating we go to war….for oil?

xblade on June 12, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Will Democrats support Obama if he authorizes Iraq strikes?

Most likely tepidly. A small caucus will object strenuously. The majority of the dems will go along because the president still holds great sway with them and they don’t want to let the right paint them as weak on terror.

Republicans will, of course, be schizophrenic- demanding the exact same things one day that they deem high crimes the next (see Bergdahl).

Que sera sera.

Tlaloc on June 12, 2014 at 4:15 PM

So….she’s advocating we go to war….for oil?

xblade on June 12, 2014 at 4:09 PM

I think she’s wondering why the republican war for oil ended up just costing us billions and got us nothing.

Tlaloc on June 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM

In reference to US air support, they will need air cover and air strikes IMHO to evacuate given the rate ISIS’s advance. There simply isn’t enough aerial capacity to evacuate Dept. of State personnel , and, contractors in a timely fashion. And, this is after Obama and Hillary squandered hundreds of millions on old helicopters in an attempt to build the Dept. of State a huge air force. Note: I was there last year as an aircraft contractor. Our personnel are in grave danger.

trollkiller on June 12, 2014 at 4:33 PM

This outcome was likely from day one back in 2003 when we decided to invade a country that had no direct connection to Al Qaeda. It became guaranteed when our leaders made the unfixable mistake of disbanding the entire Iraqi Army in 2003 after the invasion. That decision meant two things — rebuilding the army from scratch (which as we see did not work) and tens of thousands of newly unemployed, trained army officers joined the jihadists (the very ones leading the push to Baghdad now. Obama did nothing to fix the situation, but his efforts did hasten the inevitable collapse.

In sum, Bush & Co screwed up from 2003-2009, Obama screwed up even worse from 2009-2013. The entire situation has been a screw up from start to finish.

AngusMc on June 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM

So….she’s advocating we go to war….for oil?

xblade on June 12, 2014 at 4:09 PM

I would quite gladly go to war for oil if said war started in one of two scenarios:

1. Taking and holding enough only enough land to maintain control of the oil fields – including however much land was needed to maintain a sufficiently large dead-man’s zone.

2. Utter annihilation of the population of every hostile M.E. nation in a ‘rain of death with everything from appropriately-sized nukes to World War Two scale bombing raids.

LawfulGood on June 13, 2014 at 12:32 AM

Syria redux.

Obama threatens (incrediby tiny) force but Congress will not stomach it, now that everyone knows that proven incompetents will be toying with their military voters sons and daughters.

Maybe the night of civil war has to fall on Syria, Iraq and Iran: when they have had enough of the 7th century, there may be something we have in common.

virgo on June 13, 2014 at 1:50 AM

This is just the beginning. The stability of the whole mid east has been put in jeopardy by the policies of this president. Iran is now expanding it’s influence into Iraq.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/iran-deploys-forces-to-fight-al-qaeda-inspired-militants-in-iraq-iranian-security-sources-1402592470

pc253 on June 13, 2014 at 10:33 AM

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