Iraqi Kurds seize Kirkuk as army flees

posted at 8:01 am on June 12, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

How bad has the situation in Iraq become? The city of Kirkuk has long been a point of contention between the Kurds and the Iraqi government. Saddam Hussein expelled the Kurds from the city, and ever since the Kurds have laid claim to it — and its oil resources. The new government in Iraq similarly refused to cede the territory to the Kurds, and for the same reason.

Now they’ve run away from Kirkuk, and the Kurds have it again by default as the Iraqi army collapses:

Iraqi Kurdish forces say they have taken full control of the northern oil city of Kirkuk as the army flees before an Islamist offensive nearby.

“The whole of Kirkuk has fallen into the hands of peshmerga,” Kurdish spokesman Jabbar Yawar told Reuters. “No Iraq army remains in Kirkuk now.”

Kurdish fighters are seen as a bulwark against Sunni Muslim insurgents. …

Under Saddam Hussein’s programme of “Arabisation”, Kurds were driven from Kirkuk and replaced with settlers from the south, and the Iraqi government continues to assert control over nearby oilfields, with the backing from the local Turkmen community.

That won’t last long now, as the Iraqis still fiddle while Anbar and Nineveh burn. The parliament has postponed a vote on Nouri al-Maliki’s declaration of emergency, which delays any cohesive response. They can’t delay for much longer before ISIS comes knocking on their doors in Baghdad:

Insurgents inspired by al-Qaeda rapidly pressed toward Baghdad on Wednesday, confronting little resistance from Iraq’s collapsing security forces and expanding an arc of control that now includes a wide swath of the country.

By nightfall, the militants had reached the flash-point city of Samarra, just 70 miles outside Baghdad, after having first seized Tikrit, Saddam Hussein’s home town, and other cities while pressing southward from Mosul. …

It appeared that the militants were facing more robust resistance as they moved south, where Iraq’s Shiites have a stronger presence. But several experts said it would be wrong to assume that heavily fortified Baghdad, with its large Shiite population and concentration of elite forces, could easily fend off an ISIS attack.

On Thursday, the militant group vowed to march on to Baghdad . A spokesman for the Islamic State of Iran and the Levant says the group has old scores to settle with the Shiite-led government in Baghdad, the Associated Press reported.

The spokesman, Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, also threatened that ISIL fighters will take the southern Iraqi Shiite cities of Karbala and Najaf, which hold two of the holiest shrines for Shiite Muslims. The statement, which could not be independently verified, came in an audio posting Thursday on militant Web sites commonly used by the group, the AP said.

The Peshmerga will hold off ISIS in the north, at least for a while. The BBC notes that ISIS has bypassed the Kurdish areas for fear of the well-seasoned Peshmerga, who aren’t going to run in the face of an inferior force of Sunni terrorists. The ISIS move toward the Shi’ite cities might end up backfiring, though, as it will encourage Iran to come to Maliki’s rescue and turn all of Iraq into a battlefield. In that scenario, the US will lose all influence and power in Iraq, and perhaps throughout the entire region as the other states start cutting deals with Tehran or lining up against it in the ground war.

This is turning into a rout, and Iraq is getting dismembered as we watch. Unless the West intervenes in a big way soon, it won’t be long before we have to start evacuating from that large, expensive US embassy — and we get another iconic image of the last chopper to leave Saigon, er, Baghdad.


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Biden 2010: “Iraq could Be One of the Great Achievements of This Administration”

kevinkristy on June 12, 2014 at 8:08 AM

I hope EVERYONE in the MSM KNOWS this is on OBAMA.

djl130 on June 12, 2014 at 8:08 AM

This is turning into a rout, and Iraq is getting dismembered as we watch. Unless the West intervenes in a big way soon, it won’t be long before we have to start evacuating from that large, expensive US embassy — and we get another iconic image of the last chopper to leave Saigon, er, Baghdad.

Or blindfolded diplomatic personnel.

Steve Eggleston on June 12, 2014 at 8:10 AM

This is turning into a rout, and Iraq is getting dismembered as we watch. Unless the West intervenes in a big way soon, it won’t be long before we have to start evacuating from that large, expensive US embassy — and we get another iconic image of the last chopper to leave Saigon, er, Baghdad.

Alas, the POTUS and Hagel are too busy pointing fingers at each other over five prisoners to be bothered with the fate of a whole country.

apostic on June 12, 2014 at 8:10 AM

This would be a good time for Allah to resurrect his old Photoshopped picture from the 2004 presidential election, which showed the Beirut embassy being evacuated and had the caption “Let American Be America Again”.

Physics Geek on June 12, 2014 at 8:10 AM

Barrack ‘I ended the war in Iraq ‘ obama

No blaming W on this one champ

cmsinaz on June 12, 2014 at 8:11 AM

Obama is such a fcukup!

LurkerDood on June 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM

Three State Biden 2010: “Iraq could Be One of the Great Achievements of This Administration”

kevinkristy on June 12, 2014 at 8:08 AM

This is the result Team SCOAMT wanted. After all, Maliki was a Bush ally, and the only constant in Team SCOAMT’s foreign policy is to <expletive deleted> over those who did not oppose Bush.

Steve Eggleston on June 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM

Just you wait, one of these days Obama’s going to read about this in the newspaper and then they’ll be in BIG trouble!!!

geojed on June 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM

Serious question. Did Obama in any way cause this by f’ing up the SOFA negotiation or was this inevitable?

Doughboy on June 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM

Is this the Biden Doctrine?

forest on June 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM

This AQ March to Baghdad, is all wrong,..heres how you do it!
(snark)

M1 tank footage into Baghdad
April 11 2007
*************

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Tanks+roll+into+Baghdad

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:14 AM

Serious question. Did Obama in any way cause this by f’ing up the SOFA negotiation or was this inevitable?

Doughboy on June 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM

It became inevitable the moment Teh SCOAMT <expletive deleted> up the SOFA negotiation…as planned.

Steve Eggleston on June 12, 2014 at 8:15 AM

Yet another “Mission Accomplished” moment for the 0 administration. Will the media notice. HeII no! Code pink smiles. leftist progressives smile.

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 8:16 AM

Is this the Biden Doctrine?

forest on June 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM


forest: NO,

its Obama’s Foreign Policy Doctrine of, “DontDoStupidSh*t”!!

https://twitter.com/hashtag/DontDoStupidShit

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:17 AM

*,

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 8:18 AM

You’ve got to love the tweet from our old friend Doc Zero:

John Hayward ‏@Doc_0 22m
This would be a great time for Obama and Kerry to tell the people of Iraq the biggest threat they face is global warming.

Rovin on June 12, 2014 at 8:18 AM

Djl the lsm will continue to blame W…guaranteed

cmsinaz on June 12, 2014 at 8:18 AM

Damn the world is just falling apart and we have no leader.

Fan freaking tastic

gophergirl on June 12, 2014 at 8:19 AM

+1 rovin

cmsinaz on June 12, 2014 at 8:21 AM

The only silver lining that I can see is the Kurds finally getting and independent nation out of this. Kurdish-Israeli alliance?

David Marcoe on June 12, 2014 at 8:21 AM

Is this the Biden Doctrine?

forest on June 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM

forest:
Your right,….yes!!:)
=================================

Biden Brings Long Foreign Policy Experience to Obama’s Presidential Bid
A veteran of the Senate, Biden will try to help Obama tie McCain to Bush’s troubled overseas legacy

By Thomas Omestad
August 25, 2008
***************

n the realm of foreign policy,

Joseph Biden brings to Barack Obama’s presidential bid

something it lacks at the top—long experience with a range of countries,

problems, and foreign leaders.

During his short-lived presidential nomination run—and before he was tapped this weekend to be Obama’s vice presidential running mate—the Delaware senator argued

that the failures in Bush administration foreign policy and troubling trends overseas mean

that foreign policy should be front-and-center in this year’s race for the White House.

Obama’s selection of Biden signals

that the Democrats will indeed try to turn disquiet over falling U.S. standing in the world,

Washington’s troubles in Iraq and Afghanistan,

and other anxiety-producing events

like Russia’s invasion of Georgia to their political advantage.
(More..)
========

http://www.usnews.com/news/campaign-2008/articles/2008/08/25/biden-brings-long-foreign-policy-experience-to-obamas-presidential-bid

canopfor on August 4, 2013 at 6:35 PM

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:21 AM

Valerie, this Iraq business isn’t going to interfere with my golf or fundraising is it?!?!
Whew!!!
-POTUS

MistyLane on June 12, 2014 at 8:22 AM

Or blindfolded diplomatic personnel.

Steve Eggleston on June 12, 2014 at 8:10 AM

Hubby just made the point: The diplomats in Bagdhad better get out now, because Obama will not send a plane for them if the going gets tough.

esr1951 on June 12, 2014 at 8:22 AM

Our borders are under assault.

Iraq’s borders have been overrun.

Ukraine’s borders have been overrun.

Where’s obama? Oh yeah, fundraising in Boston and Miami.

HumpBot Salvation on June 12, 2014 at 8:22 AM

I have this image of Obama as Nero…. Golfing instead of fiddling… and laughing like hell at the infidels who elected him king.

Tard on June 12, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Over 4,000 of our brave heroes gave their lives to defeat this nation. The al Qaeda influence had been driven out of the whole country, and yes, democracy had taken hold, albeit fragile. What did Barack Obama do? He “ended the war”—-big f-ing deal. By not DEMANDING that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki allow a moderate force to remain in the region, Harry Reid’s “the war is lost” has come to fruition. With Mr. Obama’s advanced announcement that we are leaving Afghanistan—on his political schedule—sadly, the same travesty will take place there. Nice job Mr. President—you sure know how to “end wars”. How’s that “al Qaeda is on the run” campaign speech working out?

Rovin on June 12, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Don’t get fooled again.

David Blue on June 12, 2014 at 8:24 AM

well now saddams gone he cannot use those non-existing wmds against the kurds….again.

dmacleo on June 12, 2014 at 8:25 AM

This situation is all on Obama and all the blood is on his hands.

The real problem here is that the people of Iraq seem to be incapable of governing themselves, defending their government or themselves.

They have had quite some time to step up to the task of building their nation, but either refuse or are not capable. What are we to do? Shall we stay there forever and protect them while they squabble like children?

Do we need to stay there until a generation of Iraqis emerges with sufficient spine and intelligence to manage their affairs?

dogsoldier on June 12, 2014 at 8:25 AM

Oh come on now. Don’t get your undies in a bunch folks. These insurgents are just a part of the fabric that makes up Iraq.

iceman1960 on June 12, 2014 at 8:25 AM

And a simple status of force agreement likely would have prevented all of this, yet Obama couldn’t even get something that easy right.

I’m sure all of those who sacrificed in Iraq thank this SCoaMF.

NotCoach on June 12, 2014 at 8:25 AM

There is no way Karbala and Najaf will fall to ISIS. Iraq, with Iran’s help, with not let that happen. Those cities are too important to the Shia.

SAZMD on June 12, 2014 at 8:26 AM

HumpBot Salvation on June 12, 2014 at 8:22 AM

It’s gotta be T time somewhere!

dogsoldier on June 12, 2014 at 8:26 AM

Hubby just made the point: The diplomats in Bagdhad better get out now, because Obama will not send a plane for them if the going gets tough.

esr1951 on June 12, 2014 at 8:22 AM

Ambassador Stevens was unavailable for comment, but if he were, he would agree.

Steve Eggleston on June 12, 2014 at 8:27 AM

So,…this is on Hopey’s Watch, and since Hopey has been
in Dereliction Of Duty Mode for over five years,.we see
the Fruitations of Progressive Do-Gooders!!!

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:27 AM

Djl the lsm will continue to blame W…guaranteed

cmsinaz on June 12, 2014 at 8:18 AM

That would be some impressive revisionist history on their part since the Iraq War was pretty much won thanks to the surge as Bush left office. It was hardly even an issue in the 2008 campaign.

Doughboy on June 12, 2014 at 8:28 AM

More AQ Goons:

Djibouti
24m

Somalia’s al-Qaida-linked Shabab insurgents planning further attacks in the Horn of Africa nation of Djibouti, Britain warns – @AFP
Read more on yahoo.com

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:28 AM

Unless the West intervenes in a big way soon, it won’t be long before we have to start evacuating from that large, expensive US embassy — and we get another iconic image of the last chopper to leave Saigon, er, Baghdad.

.
I’m sure Barack Hussein Obama has a red line for this event across which the insurgents must not pass, right?

ExpressoBold on June 12, 2014 at 8:28 AM

Where is coolrepublica to tell us that Obama is Awesome…?

Electrongod on June 12, 2014 at 8:28 AM

I have this image of Obama as Nero…. Golfing instead of fiddling… and laughing like hell at the infidels who elected him king.

Tard on June 12, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Well, he wouldn’t be “king” if the $##^$ Congress and media hadn’t sold their souls to elaborately feather their own nests. It’s the ME-class – Republic be damned!

MistyLane on June 12, 2014 at 8:28 AM

Rovin on June 12, 2014 at 8:23 AM

I am no fan of subZero, he is mainly to blame here along with Biden, but I still have to ask as I did upthread, are we supposed to go to the expense of protecting the adolescent people of Iraq indefinitely?

dogsoldier on June 12, 2014 at 8:30 AM

Results for #Iraq

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Iraq?src=hash

The Times of London ‏@thetimes 2h

Islamic insurgents push Baghdad to the brink | Map: the spread of Isis http://thetim.es/1oeKDCM #Iraq pic.twitter.com/qxliMjTUm4

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/476952319095877634/photo/1

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:30 AM

Obama doctrine
–support the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt
–arm AQ terrorists in Syria
–abandon the battlefields in Iraq and Afghanistan to the terrorists
–return the Taliban command structure
–allow Iran to go nuclear
–say nothing, do nothing, in response to Christian persecution in Nigeria, Sudan etc.

This isn’t incompetence. Obama is immensely competent at accomplishing his goals. He was aligned with Ayers and Alinsky, and now he is executing their evil tyrannical precepts.

cthemfly on June 12, 2014 at 8:30 AM

I hope EVERYONE in the MSM KNOWS this is on OBAMA.

djl130 on June 12, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Racist.

ConstantineXI on June 12, 2014 at 8:31 AM

#Bush’s fault
#AlQaeda on the run
Maybe #BringBackOurIraq ???

I noted the hashtag State and FLOTUS diplomacy worked out incredibly well for those Nigerian girls – they now have 20 new school chums f for company

MistyLane on June 12, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Al Qaeda truly is on the run; running as it is charging forward.

swamp_yankee on June 12, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Can we have a poll of the stupid sh!ts that voted for Obama to get that Nobel prize?

Just curious…

Electrongod on June 12, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Meanwhile, retail sales were unexpectedly weak.

Steve Eggleston on June 12, 2014 at 8:32 AM

I am no fan of subZero, he is mainly to blame here along with Biden, but I still have to ask as I did upthread, are we supposed to go to the expense of protecting the adolescent people of Iraq indefinitely?

dogsoldier on June 12, 2014 at 8:30 AM

It depends on what we mean by defense. We still have troops in Korea, Japan, and Germany, yet they aren’t in a shooting war. Something similar in Iraq most likely would have prevented this. Not saying it would have prevented violence entirely considering the regional situation, but the country would not be overrun by terrorists.

NotCoach on June 12, 2014 at 8:33 AM

John Hayward ‏@Doc_0 22m
This would be a great time for Obama and Kerry to tell the people of Iraq the biggest threat they face is global warming.

Rovin on June 12, 2014 at 8:18 AM

Rovin: Exactly:)

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:34 AM

Hubby just made the point: The diplomats in Bagdhad better get out now, because Obama will not send a plane for them if the going gets tough.

esr1951 on June 12, 2014 at 8:22 AM

What difference does it make?

Yes, the Ambassador and Embassy staff had better flee now.

ConstantineXI on June 12, 2014 at 8:34 AM

The One and his minions are getting the world they want. One in which the “mystically enlightened” primitivists rule.

Seen in this light, their refusal to even try to keep illegal invaders out of this country now makes perfect sense.

They want a situation in which America, friendless and beset on all sides, within and without, has no choice but to surrender their grand vision of Utopia.

Iraq and Afghanistan are lost, largely because with a few rare exceptions (namely the Kurds), the Islamic culture prefers primitivism, mysticism, and irrational violence. Just as The One and his minions do.

The mystics of the progressive movement have dreamed of turning out the lights of Western civilization for a century. In the belief that an enlightened, philosophical culture with no evil technology will replace it, and they will rule it forever.

Right now they are closer to part one of that goal than most people would believe.

They will never get to part two. Not because anyone opposed to them will stop them, but because those they see as their Janissaries will inevitably destroy them as well.

Of course, by that time, it won’t matter to the rest of us, as we’ll have gone to the block before them.

Query; How do the rational defeat, or even survive, the irrational…when the irrational hold the reins?

clear ether

eon

eon on June 12, 2014 at 8:34 AM

A preview of things to come in Afghanistan.

The people of Iraq and Afghanistan were given an opportunity for a better future at the great expense of our soldiers blood and our national treasure.

It’s a shame that they don’t value it enough to fight for it.

HumpBot Salvation on June 12, 2014 at 8:35 AM

I guess we should all just be thankful our fellow citizens had the great foresight to hire such a wonderful community organizer for CIC. It could all be spinning out of control had we not. As it is the relations in that troubled area are doing fine. Just fine.

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 8:35 AM

What Youtube video caused this mess? Islam is the religion of peace.

SC.Charlie on June 12, 2014 at 8:36 AM

They want a situation in which America, friendless and beset on all sides, within and without, has no choice but to surrender TO their grand vision of Utopia.

/corrected

clear ether

eon

eon on June 12, 2014 at 8:36 AM

Blame:

Bush

Obama

Congress

What a waste of American Blood and treasure this whole thing was. These people have been ruled by despots and tyrants for thousands of years. What vanity it was when Bush said in his inaugural that the goal of America was to spread Democracy to all the world. Grand idea, but who pays for it? See blood and treasure comment above.

And Obama actually did a WORSE job managing that war than Bush.

And Afghanistan? See blood and treasure comment again. A war we won’t win, because we’re interested in just jacking around against the dope farmers and goat herders over there. Pity the poor people that are actually just nice people that want to live their lives but are victims of centurties of tyranny.

And pity us, we’re just getting started on the road to tyranny.

Terrible.
Waste.
Blame D.C.

PappyD61 on June 12, 2014 at 8:36 AM

This isn’t incompetence. Obama is immensely competent at accomplishing his goals. He was aligned with Ayers and Alinsky, and now he is executing their evil tyrannical precepts.

cthemfly on June 12, 2014 at 8:30 AM

I call it Malevolent Incompetence.

Imagine how much WORSE things would be by now if Obama actually weren’t incompetent and incredibly lazy.

ConstantineXI on June 12, 2014 at 8:36 AM

Just curious…

Electrongod on June 12, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Time to honor 0 with a second prize?

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM

https://twitter.com/NATOSource

Retweeted by NATOSource
John Baird @HonJohnBaird · 14h

Canada demands release of Turkish diplomats kidnapped by ISIL & stands with our Turkish allies at this difficult time @A_Davutoglu_eng

NATOSource @NATOSource · 16h

Erdogan & Davutoglu consulted with top US leaders & NATO about hostages taken in Iraq by #ISIL http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/turkey-is-on-alert-after-al-qaeda-affiliate-seizes-turkish-hostages-in-iraq

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM

Putin chuckles in his Kremlin office.

SC.Charlie on June 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM

It will take us years and a lot of blood and treasure to fix the mega disasters that the incompetent fool Obama caused… If we left a force of 15-20 thousands troops in Iraq this would not have happened…

mnjg on June 12, 2014 at 8:38 AM

Electrongod on June 12, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Time to honor 0 with a second prize?

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM

Bmore: And I know exactly where that prize is going to go!!!

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:38 AM

Besides this is just a temporary distraction from the crying children that we need to see by the millions flooding across the Rio Grande.

Now THAT, the media will want to report on, and if they can blame Bush only for Iraq then it might get some coverage.

I can almost see the CNN headlines now.

“What went wrong?”

“Who’s to blame?”

“Bush’s Legacy?”

PappyD61 on June 12, 2014 at 8:39 AM

Looks like Mosul could use a community organizer…

Galtian on June 12, 2014 at 8:39 AM

It was a mistake to even attempt to democratize any islamic population. The Republic concept cannot work with them. They NEED brutal dictators who are not afraid to use violence to keep the islamists in line.

What we need over there are WESTERN friendly brutal dictators.

ConstantineXI on June 12, 2014 at 8:40 AM

AQ re-draws Iraq’s border:

Retweeted 678 times
Jenan Moussa ‏@jenanmoussa Jun 11

International border gone; start of caliphate RT @mutludc ISIS militants remove bordr line between #Iraq & #Syria pic.twitter.com/POF9zGo1yq

https://twitter.com/mutludc/status/476673029477785600/photo/1

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:40 AM

Obama: “The World Is Less Violent Than It Has Ever Been”

kevinkristy on June 12, 2014 at 8:30 AM

You just don’t understand the power that Obama possesses. All he has to do is say it and it becomes reality.

iceman1960 on June 12, 2014 at 8:40 AM

Looks like Mosul could use a community organizer…

Galtian on June 12, 2014 at 8:39 AM

Let’s drop Obama in there with a pistol with only one round in it.

ConstantineXI on June 12, 2014 at 8:41 AM

I hope EVERYONE in the MSM KNOWS this is on OBAMA.

djl130 on June 12, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Are you kidding? The MSM will be doing endzone dances over this. I guarantee we’re going to hear wall to wall coverage of gleeful leftists proclaiming “At last, Bushian foreign policy bears it’s bitter fruit!” Obama will not be blamed, and the left will take it as confirmation they were always right about Iraq.

Never mind that Bush has been gone for six years.

I am no fan of subZero, he is mainly to blame here along with Biden, but I still have to ask as I did upthread, are we supposed to go to the expense of protecting the adolescent people of Iraq indefinitely?

dogsoldier on June 12, 2014 at 8:30 AM

We had basically just broken the back of al-Qaida in Iraq when Obama pulled us out – the surge had been successful. It wouldn’t have cost us much more than what we pay to maintain bases in Korea and Japan in Iraq to stay. After a generation or so we could have considered a real pullout once the Iraqi army matured.

Doomberg on June 12, 2014 at 8:41 AM

You just don’t understand the power that Obama possesses. All he has to do is say it and it becomes reality.

iceman1960 on June 12, 2014 at 8:40 AM

Except the reality only exists between those enormous ears.

ConstantineXI on June 12, 2014 at 8:42 AM

The only silver lining that I can see is the Kurds finally getting and independent nation out of this. Kurdish-Israeli alliance?

David Marcoe on June 12, 2014 at 8:21 AM

I hope the Kurds can hold it. Some experts said Iraq should have been split up. I guess they were right.

crankyoldlady on June 12, 2014 at 8:43 AM

I am no fan of subZero, he is mainly to blame here along with Biden, but I still have to ask as I did upthread, are we supposed to go to the expense of protecting the adolescent people of Iraq indefinitely?

dogsoldier on June 12, 2014 at 8:30 AM

It depends on what we mean by defense. We still have troops in Korea, Japan, and Germany, yet they aren’t in a shooting war. Something similar in Iraq most likely would have prevented this. Not saying it would have prevented violence entirely considering the regional situation, but the country would not be overrun by terrorists.

NotCoach on June 12, 2014 at 8:33 AM

NotCoach pretty much covered what I would have said DS. I might add that, (whether Obama’s fault or not), we don’t seem to prosecute wars as we did in the past, where “WE” dictated policies that insured stability, as the examples NotCoach listed.

Rovin on June 12, 2014 at 8:43 AM

Oh come on now. Don’t get your undies in a bunch folks. These insurgents are just a part of the fabric that makes up Iraq.

iceman1960 on June 12, 2014 at 8:25 AM

“The touch, the feel of cotton, the fabric of our lives….”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upd9AtdeAoE

Sorry, I couldn’t help thinking of that 1990s ad campaign when I first heard that response.

BuckeyeSam on June 12, 2014 at 8:43 AM

What is Obama’s tee time today?

SC.Charlie on June 12, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Now the head choppers will have a nation rich in resources and can equip with all the shiny new military hardware we donated or left there. Carter’s hostage crisis was peanuts by comparison–this is Obama’s legacy. It would be fascinating to be a fly on the wall of the main conference room in the Saudi palace right now.

ElectricPhase on June 12, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Is Obama’s background Sunni or Shiite?

crankyoldlady on June 12, 2014 at 8:45 AM

“The world is less violent than it has ever been. It is healthier than it has ever been. It is more tolerant than it has ever been. It is better fed then it’s ever been. It is more educated than it’s ever been.”

Clueless.

pambi on June 12, 2014 at 8:45 AM

The only silver lining that I can see is the Kurds finally getting and independent nation out of this. Kurdish-Israeli alliance?

David Marcoe on June 12, 2014 at 8:21 AM

I agree.

Kurdistan should have been made independent and not shackled to Iraq, which became a failed state the moment we tried to replace a strong brutal dictator with a republic.

ConstantineXI on June 12, 2014 at 8:45 AM

Has Hillary had any comments to make about all this? She was Secretary of State when we tried to negotiate a status of forces agreement with Iraq and failed at doing so?

SC.Charlie on June 12, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Where is coolrepublica to tell us that Obama is Awesome…?

Electrongod on June 12, 2014 at 8:28 AM

He’s been too busy denigrating me for predicting Ed’s post.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/11/as-militants-advance-in-iraq-u-s-embassy-in-baghdad-readies-evacuation/comment-page-1/#comments

Obama’s Vietnam evacuation.

BuckeyeSam on June 11, 2014 at 9:33 PM

I know it’s fun to blame Obama and all, but may I remind you that Iraq is a sovereign nation, and they ask us to get the F$@@k out.

coolrepublica on June 11, 2014 at 9:38 PM

BuckeyeSam on June 12, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Is Obama’s background Sunni or Shiite?

crankyoldlady on June 12, 2014 at 8:45 AM

Mostly Sunni, but I don’t think one branch of the murdering death cult is any better than the other.

ConstantineXI on June 12, 2014 at 8:46 AM

So I guess those smart- alec bumper stickers that insufferable pinko jagoffs had on their hybrid cars circa 2004 reading “Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam” turned out to be prescient…

Dukeboy01 on June 12, 2014 at 8:48 AM

Sad situation, but I think I’d rather not have Obama leading troops into any more battles.

How about sending some troops to help protect our southern border?

BuckeyeSam on June 12, 2014 at 8:49 AM

BTW: do all the middle-of-the-road LIV SSM supporters voting for Obama enjoy all the chaos?

BuckeyeSam on June 12, 2014 at 8:50 AM

I don’t understand…don’t they have those COEXIST bumper stickers in Iraq?

Galtian on June 12, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Is Obama’s background Sunni or Shiite?

crankyoldlady on June 12, 2014 at 8:45 AM

Mostly Sunni, but I don’t think one branch of the murdering death cult is any better than the other.

ConstantineXI on June 12, 2014 at 8:46 AM

It doesn’t matter until the intramural war starts. Then Obama will have issues with Biden, who was the second-biggest US backer of Khomeini in the 1970s and still backs the Mad Mullahs today.

Steve Eggleston on June 12, 2014 at 8:51 AM

It’s a shame – the Iraqis and Afghans were given a golden opportunity to make their lives and countries better with the overthrow of Hussein and the Taliban. They wouldn’t have become a Westernized democracy. The best we could have hoped for would be a Turkish style democracy – not perfect, but something semi-okay.

I guess instead of nation building, the countries should have been invaded, the governments overthrown, and then left to decide on their own how to react and change.

mjk on June 12, 2014 at 8:52 AM

The only silver lining that I can see is the Kurds finally getting and independent nation out of this. Kurdish-Israeli alliance?

David Marcoe on June 12, 2014 at 8:21 AM

The Kurds want to be our 51st (or 58th) state. They said it in 1973 and in 2006. Maybe we should take them up on their offer.

Occams Stubble on June 12, 2014 at 8:53 AM

One thing democrats are good at is losing wars.

docflash on June 12, 2014 at 8:55 AM

Smart power baby!

Ellis on June 12, 2014 at 8:56 AM

AQ re-draws Iraq’s border:

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Jenan Moussa ‏@jenanmoussa Jun 11

International border gone; start of caliphate RT @mutludc ISIS militants remove bordr line between #Iraq & #Syria pic.twitter.com/POF9zGo1yq

https://twitter.com/mutludc/status/476673029477785600/photo/1

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:40 AM

Jeb Bush calls it an “act of love”…

the_nile on June 12, 2014 at 8:56 AM

The Kurds want to be our 51st (or 58th) state. They said it in 1973 and in 2006. Maybe we should take them up on their offer.

Occams Stubble on June 12, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Provocative, to say the least. If we accepted Kurdistan as a state we might end up going to war with Turkey, and definitely with Syria.

NotCoach on June 12, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Not to worry, folks.

John McCain assures us that we have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency!

AZCoyote on June 12, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Obama can’t be bothered with this, he’s got golf to play!

WisCon on June 12, 2014 at 8:57 AM

CBS/APJune 12, 2014, 6:02 AM
Iraq starts fighting back against militants

Last Updated Jun 12, 2014 7:24 AM EDT
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BAGHDAD — An al Qaeda splinter group has vowed to march on to Baghdad after seizing two key Sunni-dominated cities in Iraq, as the nation’s military launched its first airstrikes against the militants in one of the locations.

CBS News correspondent Holly Williams reports from the city of Irbil that Iraq’s government said it is carrying out military airstrikes against militant strongholds. The government released video Thursday showing an airstrike.

A spokesman for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) said the group had old scores to settle with the Shiite-led government in Baghdad.

The spokesman, Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, also threatened that ISIS (also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIL) fighters would take the southern Iraqi Shiite cities of Karbala and Najaf, which hold two of the holiest shrines for Shiite Muslims.

The statement, which could not be independently verified, came in an audio posting Thursday on militant websites commonly used by the group.

In response to reports suggesting Iraq was “open” to U.S. drone or jet strikes on ISIS positions, the U.S. National Security Council
(NSC) spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan released a statement saying the Obama administration was “not going to get into details of our diplomatic discussions,” but added that the U.S. had “expedited shipments of military equipment since the beginning of the year, ramped up training of Iraqi Security Forces, and worked intensively to help Iraq implement a holistic approach to counter this terrorist threat. Our assistance has been comprehensive, is continuing, and will increase.”

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/iraq-attacks-isis-tikrit-mosul-group-vows-to-march-on-baghdad/

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:58 AM

the U.S. had “expedited shipments of military equipment since the beginning of the year

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Oh frickin’ perfect. Even more toys for the head choppers.

ElectricPhase on June 12, 2014 at 9:01 AM

Al Qaeda is on the run…straight to Baghdad!

Wigglesworth on June 12, 2014 at 9:03 AM

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