Fun, fun, fun: Hillary clashes with NPR host about why she opposed gay marriage for so long

posted at 4:31 pm on June 12, 2014 by Allahpundit

America Rising has a transcript but I recommend listening to the clip. The last minute or two, when Hillary gets verrrrry defensive towards Terry Gross for exposing this vulnerability on her left flank, is pure pleasure. It’s hard to keep track of when big-name Democrats “evolved” on gay marriage, and by “evolved” I of course mean “decided it was politically safe to state their true opinions,” so let me help you out. For Hillary, the evolution didn’t come until March 2013, nearly a year after Obama dropped the pretense that he opposed SSM. Remember, too, that it was her would-be rival Joe Biden blabbing to the press about his own support for gay marriage in May 2012 that nudged Obama to step up, so Biden’s got bragging rights over her among liberals on this point. (And don’t think lefties have forgotten that it was Hillary’s husband who signed DOMA into law.) Her excuse for the long delay is that she was Secretary of State and therefore loath to wade into domestic policy disputes, but c’mon: If she was asked in 2011 whether she supports ending the Bush tax cuts, no one would have blinked had she said, “Of course.” She’s a Democrat. She’s married to a former Democratic president. She ran for the Democratic nomination herself and likely will again. Her sympathies are not a secret. Nobody would have faulted her for politely signaling her support.

What’s weird about her answer is how reluctant she is to commit to a clear explanation. She could have just said, “Yep, changed my mind. Like lots of people, I grew up in an era when it was taken for granted that gays couldn’t marry. I assumed bad things would happen if they did. But the more gay couples I met and the more arguments for it that I listened to, the more persuaded I was that it was the right thing. And then, when gay marriages started happening over the last few years with no ill effects, I was finally convinced. But I felt duty-bound to stay out of it so long as I was at State.” I think she’s trying to say something like that, but by emphasizing repeatedly how quickly American society changed, Gross takes her as meaning that she actually changed her mind earlier but didn’t feel politically safe in announcing it until recently. Which is a cardinal sin in American politics: Better to maintain a bald-faced lie, even if everyone knows it’s a lie, than admit to political cowardice. The left will tolerate the former, as we all saw when they pretended Obama was anti-SSM in 2008. They won’t tolerate the latter, which is why Hillary gets so testy at Gross for badgering her near the end.

Exit quotation: “One of my big problems right now is that too many people believe they have a direct line to the divine and they never want to change their mind about anything.”


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Everything is political. This should come as no surprise.

antisense on June 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM

HiLarry/Booker, for the black and gay duo, in more than one way!

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Her head was hurting…

d1carter on June 12, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Why did obama oppose it?

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Hillary needs to get a sun tan…

Then the world will love her and believe her crap…

Electrongod on June 12, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Did you know that Hillary was not responsible for security in Benghazi..?

d1carter on June 12, 2014 at 4:35 PM

If there’s one voice that is more grating than obama’s, it’s HiLarry’s.

God, she lies good.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 4:35 PM

The Left opposed it until popular opinion was as such that is was no longer beneficial to oppose it.

This is called… listening to your constituents.

antisense on June 12, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Bill Clinton was the first black president.

obama is the first gay president.

HiLarry wants to be the first….fill in the blanks.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 4:36 PM

de rigueur on June 12, 2014 at 4:36 PM

er… correction. Leave it alone, George. Leave it alone.

de rigueur on June 12, 2014 at 4:38 PM

I can’t imagine that Hillary is loving the news out of Iraq…… what with her fingerprints all over the “let’s leave Iraq in the lurch!”

This gay thing might be a problem for her, unless she divorces Bill and openly takes Huma as her lover. But then, her only appeal is “Vote for me to get around not being able to vote for Bill!”

Vanceone on June 12, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Mao, dancing

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 4:40 PM

This is why it’s stupid to oppose true marriage equality. Because someday, the social stigmas will erode, and popular opinion will be such that it is no longer beneficial to oppose it.

blink on June 12, 2014 at 4:38 PM

And at that moment, political stances can change, but not a second sooner.

antisense on June 12, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Everything is political. This should come as no surprise.

antisense on June 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Yup, when you have no real morals, convictions or beliefs but feel the need to keep in the spotlight, stay in government provided housing and bathe in the glow of paid sychophants, you follow the wind on every issue.

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 4:41 PM

And the hits just keep on coming…

Message to Hillary — even the left doesn’t want you… they want Senator Lie-a-watha…

dpduq on June 12, 2014 at 4:41 PM

“I think you are trying to say that I used to be opposed and now I am in favor and I did it for political reasons. And that’s just flat wrong.”

because you’ve never done that before right? how about the iraq war?

phatfawzi on June 12, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Did you know that Hillary was not responsible for security in Benghazi..?

d1carter on June 12, 2014 at 4:35 PM

At least not for the blast walls…

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Wrong, this interview makes a perfect case why political stances need to change SOONER.

Are you completely unable to learn?

blink on June 12, 2014 at 4:43 PM

I think that is for the free market to decide, comrade.

antisense on June 12, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Where were these snooty NPR hosts when DOMA passed with large bipartisan support?

Scalia revealed all these people for the frauds they are in his DOMA dissent – Kennedy claimed that the ONLY motivation for DOMA was gay animus and Scalia had to point out that this requires us to believe that Bill Clinton and a bipartisan Congress are all gay haters.

But it fun watching the left eat their own. The left comes up with some idea 5 minutes ago and starts running around hyperventilating wondering why people weren’t on board with it 20 years ago.

gwelf on June 12, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Huma changed her mind, if you know what I mean…

sentinelrules on June 12, 2014 at 4:47 PM

why she opposed gay marriage for so long

…she finally ran out of cigars?

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2014 at 4:47 PM

and since when did the media start doing their job,did i miss the memo?

phatfawzi on June 12, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Is it just me, or is every other question out of Terri Gross’s mouth about trangendered or gay issues?

limecat on June 12, 2014 at 4:49 PM

I don’t know why this would surprise anyone. Her husband lived and died by the polls during his administration. He wasn’t so much as a committed leftist, but a committed Billist..

Hilary is exactly the same way. She wants power not ideology, and she will run over everyone to get that.

melle1228 on June 12, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Yup, when you have no real morals, convictions or beliefs but feel the need to keep in the spotlight, stay in government provided housing and bathe in the glow of paid sychophants, you follow the wind on every issue.

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 4:41 PM

++++++++++

bazil9 on June 12, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Why would anyone think that Hilary makes decisions and statements based on anything else but politics? It’s all about her getting to be President. She and Slick Willie learned how to be greedy on a national scale when Slick was president. Just imagine the piles and piles of money to be made from a third and fourth presidential term for the Clintons. The mind boggles!

catsandbooks on June 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM

And Obama The Brave Crusader For Equality didn’t come out in favor of SSM – as allah says until 2012. When Biden forced his hand AND he the big money SSM donors were holding out. It was a grab for the campaign cash.

gwelf on June 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM

“One of my big problems right now is that too many people believe they have a direct line to the divine and they never want to change their mind about anything.”

This is Hillary’s “cling to guns or religion” quote.

bhj on June 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Mao, dancing

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Now we know where she was for the 3 a.m. call. But there should be a trigger warning with that.

de rigueur on June 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM

I think Hillary hates the MMS more than us. Obama’s love affair really turned her against them.

rubberneck on June 12, 2014 at 4:52 PM

And the hits just keep on coming…

Message to Hillary — even the left doesn’t want you… they want Senator Lie-a-watha…

dpduq on June 12, 2014 at 4:41 PM

that would be Lie-a-Woppa

gracie on June 12, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Why doesn’t Terry Gross get ahead of the curve here and start pushing everyone she interviews on True Marriage Equality and wondering why we still criminalize polygamy as well as deny them and especially their children the human dignity of their relationships by not granting them state marriage protections?

gwelf on June 12, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Notice the giddy camaraderie and jocular joviality from a fawning Terry Gross.
Will she be this way when she interviews Ted Cruz ?

Hahahahahahahaha!! ‘interviews Ted Cruz’…I crack myself up.

birdhurd on June 12, 2014 at 4:54 PM

“I think you are trying to say that I used to be opposed and now I am in favor and I did it for political reasons. And that’s just flat wrong.”

EVERYTHING Hillary does is political.

It is kind of fun to watch her squirm in some of these interviews – even with Diane Sawyer. How come NOBODY will ever ask Obama a question like that?

TarheelBen on June 12, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Yup, when you have no real morals, convictions or beliefs but feel the need to keep in the spotlight, stay in government provided housing and bathe in the glow of paid sychophants, you follow the wind on every issue.

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 4:41 PM

…I like that!… ^…that was quite a breeze!

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2014 at 4:55 PM

And the hits just keep on coming…

Message to Hillary — even the left doesn’t want you… they want Senator Lie-a-watha…

dpduq on June 12, 2014 at 4:41 PM

I think even we’d prefer Fauxcahontas to Hillary.

I’d much rather have the Democrat candidate be a full throated statist rather than a mealy mouthed statist trying to pretend she isn’t.

gwelf on June 12, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Killary is a fatally flawed candidate.

John the Libertarian on June 12, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Hillary is not a True Liberal, a Trulib, if you will.

thebrokenrattle on June 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Exit quotation: “One of my big problems right now is that too many people believe they have a direct line to the divine and they never want to change their mind about anything.”

The Divine doesn’t change. “As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.” He has already spoken. The end.

Kraken on June 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM

If any Killary the Death Hag supporters (Ned Pajama Boy) are reading this thread, can you imagine having to tolerate her voice on the campaign trail all the time…you will have to be on some serious narcotics to deal with that.

22044 on June 12, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Killery is a red herring. It will be Julian Castro, Elizabeth Warren or any female or Hispanic or black person they can find. Dems like that teflon coating that minority status affords them.

neyney on June 12, 2014 at 5:01 PM

only when it became politically safe.
Anything else and she is lying through her teeth

weedisgood on June 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Apparently the stroke has affected her memory.

And her temper control – which wasn’t good to start with.

kcewa on June 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Fun, fun, fun: Hillary clashes with NPR host about why she opposed gay marriage for so long

Huma is showing.

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Everything Hillary Benghazi Lewinsky does is for political reasons. Her lying about it simply makes her seem like more of a power hungry witch.

Whitey Ford on June 12, 2014 at 5:03 PM

And the hits just keep on coming…

Message to Hillary — even the left doesn’t want you… they want Senator Lie-a-watha…

dpduq on June 12, 2014 at 4:41 PM

I’m really beginning to wonder how long Hillary will last as a viable candidate. She’s had a terrible week, a lot of her interviews seem bad and there’s been gaffe after gaffe. If she is like this for much longer her campaign will collapse before it even gets started. I had been pretty certain Hillary would be the Democrat candidate, but now I am not so sure.

To be honest, I feel a little sorry for her.

Doomberg on June 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM

She cannot admit she changed her mind because Democrats rely on “settled” science and issues. If she admits she may have been wrong about this she has to admit she may be wrong about many other things. For people who seek control, like Democrats do, that simply cannot be.

ojfltx on June 12, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Bill Clinton was the first black president.

obama is the first gay president.

HiLarry wants to be the first….fill in the blanks.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Nasty c…?

arnold ziffel on June 12, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Now she’s really had it.

Nothing like getting on the bad side of the Gaystapo.

(although it is payback for Willie cultivating their vote in ’92)

(I love the smell of schaudenfreude in the afternoon)

formwiz on June 12, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Evidence-free zone: sodomy is good for human beings.

BuckeyeSam on June 12, 2014 at 5:18 PM

I think I hear Hillary using a walker.

Kensington on June 12, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Exit quotation: “One of my big problems right now is that too many people believe they have a direct line to the divine and they never want to change their mind about anything.”

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We all know Obama doesn’t answer 3 AM phone calls.

blammm on June 12, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Exit quotation: “One of my big problems right now is that too many people believe they have a direct line to the divine and they never want to change their mind about anything.”

Translation: “I simply can’t stand having to admit I was wrong. I’d rather sing 3 complete verses of ‘Stand By Your Man’ than have to do that.”

LashRambo on June 12, 2014 at 5:21 PM

hildabeast is starting to get the vibe that people neither like nor trust her as much as she thought they did

clandestine on June 12, 2014 at 5:22 PM

I think we’re also going to see a lot of posturing from lefties in the years to come about having “always being for SSM” though even 20 years ago the majority of gays didn’t even want SSM as marriage was largely viewed as anachronistic, bourgeois and oppressive etc.

Gay super icon Harvey Milk didn’t think marriage had anything to do with gays and that was the common view until 5 minutes ago for most people.

gwelf on June 12, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Old news: the LSM finds its journalism mojo when dealing with Republicans or conservatives.

New hotness: the LSM finds its journalism mojo when dealing with Killary.

22044 on June 12, 2014 at 5:24 PM

When Hippies Attack

Kensington on June 12, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Exit quotation: “One of my big problems right now is that too many people believe they have a direct line to the divine and they never want to change their mind about anything.”

So is Pope Francis wrong?

monalisa on June 12, 2014 at 5:28 PM

“Conservatives” are just as bad & brainless as “liberals” (both terms as meaningless as L & R) re the bogus “gay” invention only accepted, much less embraced, by gullible ignorant bigots & fools, finely refuted by “The gay invention” at http://www.touchstonemag.com, the tactics perverts like Kinsey used to overthrow America’s morals jurisprudence finely exposed by http://www.DrJudithReisman.org “Conservatives” are as despicably and ignorantly treasonous as “liberals” here, even so stupid as to fail to realize the bait and switch propaganda of brainwashing the world into the useful idiocy of the oxymoron “homosex-” where “homo=same”+”sex=opposite by definintion” = the bogus assertion that such lunacy is actually a rational category.

Deluded evolutionist fascists who have destroyed true science for today’s fraud (global warming anyone!? promoted by the embarrassingly exposed East Anglia liars’ club) did the same thing to creation by overthrowing what was universally held by all the greats like Newton & Galileo & Copernicus & Kepler and Pasteur, etc to a bogus joke invented by an apostate Anglican clergyman Darwin who hated God for the death of his daughter and successfully conned the world into joining him in raising the middle finger in God’s face, and now they’re wondering why it’s not working to try to use the fact-free delusional fantasy of “dark matter” disguised as “science” to try to explain the universe’s origin without God. http://creation.com/dark-matter-and-a-cosmological-constant-in-a-creationist-cosmology

See creation.com if you want real science vs today’s sad revival of Stalin’s deranged lawless, fascist Lysenkoism lunatic idiocy that now controls and ruins modernity’s pseudo-science joke that has to control the microphone to silence the truth of real science (e.g. http://creation.com/uranus) to save their jobs, like they same bogus perverse evolutionist crowd did in Galileo’s day (http://creation.com/the-galileo-twist). Thankfully creationist Galileo didn’t buy today’s “consensus” nonsense for science or we’d still believe the bogus evolutionist error of his day that the sun revolved around the earth that he refuted by his true scientific research.

russedav on June 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM

“Exit quotation: “One of my big problems right now is that too many people believe they have a direct line to the divine and they never want to change their mind about anything.””
It’s called the Bible, and the vastly more educated & intelligent Founders knew it was true, unlike today’s laughable useful idiots who have bought the propaganda lies of “The gay invention” exposed at http://www.touchstonemag.com that “homo=same+sex=opposite” is a lunatic oxymoronic notion, not a rational view and only fools or cowards fail to oppose it as our vastly more educated Founders did when it was rightly called perversion. Then they had kids graduate from university at 15 and become professors, unlike today where at 18 they have a hard time graduating from high school, just ENTERING university, stupid little brats still on their parents insurance. And today’s stupid fools imagine we have the smarts or maturity to sit in judgment on our Founders! What a joke!

russedav on June 12, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Maybe Hillary wasn’t getting enough nookie from Bill, so she has turned to her gal-pal.

Steve Z on June 12, 2014 at 5:37 PM

I don’t think it has anything to do with feeling politically able to give their true opinion. Most Democrat politicians really could care less about any movement they expound – it’s all a means to an end for power. Hell, look at how incoherent their convention was, with arguing over whether to put G-d in the platform. They have no set compass.

Once the SSM thing is inconvenient to them (i.e. the muslim wing of the Democrats becomes more dominant), they will throw them under the bus pronto.

specialkayel on June 12, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Funny stuff. Libtards want to trip her up to open the door for their dream queen.

Southernblogger on June 12, 2014 at 5:41 PM

“One of my big problems right now is that too many people believe they have a direct line to the divine and they never want to change their mind about anything.”

Killery talking about muzzies, right ?

burrata on June 12, 2014 at 5:43 PM

I of course mean “decided it was politically safe to state their true opinions,” so let me help you out.

Allah

OK, so let me help you out: You don’t have one tiny little inkling about what Hillary actually believes. She’s a psychopathic politician who attempts to calculate every single utterance based on self-interest. And while it’s safe to assume she’s no evangelical Christian, who knows what she actually thinks about queers turning human history and genetic biology inside out?

You say she was always in favor of gay marriage, but the only reason anyone believes that is that her recent flip-flop. If the rest of her nutjob party still opposed men having anal sex and calling it “marriage”, she’d be right there with them. For all we know.

Jaibones on June 12, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Bill Clinton was the first black president.

obama is the first gay president.

HiLarry wants to be the first….fill in the blanks.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Butch President.

Jaibones on June 12, 2014 at 5:44 PM

That woman has no soul to her at all. No oomph whatsoever.

SouthernGent on June 12, 2014 at 5:47 PM

To be honest, I feel a little sorry for her.

Doomberg on June 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM

I do too…almost.

I sort of wonder if this isn’t all planned – either as setup for a Comeback Kid story later a la Slick, or because she really doesn’t want to run and this botched rollout plus pending grandchild will give her an out.

Missy on June 12, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Exit quotation: “One of my big problems right now is that too many people believe they have a direct line to the divine and they never want to change their mind about anything.”

Do you mean like all your ardent supporters who are still adamant that you should run for President?

Yeah, that is one of your big problems right now and you should ignore them and forget about running.

Dusty on June 12, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Pure horror: Killary-Mooch ’16

RavingLunatic on June 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM

and since when did the media start doing their job,did i miss the memo?

phatfawzi on June 12, 2014 at 4:48 PM

They do their job (as defined by themselves, naturally) when they feel that their Leftist ideologies are in jeopardy, or if they feel one of their own are being wishy washy on those issues.

Note that the big deal to NPR was Shrillary’s lack of support for gay marriage. Maybe they asked her for the real deal on Benghazi, or even Vince Foster, travelgate or Whitewater later on in the interview…but I doubt it.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 12, 2014 at 6:07 PM

To be honest, I feel a little sorry for her.

Doomberg on June 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM

I don’t. She a bossy bitch and I can’t think of anyone whose moral superiority nose struts higher than hers.

Never forget there are four dead Americans because of a combination of her negligence, incompetence, and narcissism which she continues to lie and obfuscate about. She’s by no means the greatest menace to the country but I’d count her among the top five and she deserves every setback she stumbles and bumbles into of her own free will.

Dusty on June 12, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Missy on June 12, 2014 at 5:55 PM

A third possibility is that she never intended to run and she is just absorbing all the negative attention that would otherwise go to Coumo, Warren and the other potential candidates.

Flange on June 12, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Bill Clinton was the first black president.

obama is the first gay president.

HiLarry wants to be the first….fill in the blanks.

Schadenfreude on June 12, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Butch President.

Jaibones on June 12, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Hillary wants to be the first: “President to kill their own Ambassador and their security staff.”

If this lying political whore gave obama two of her balls, they’d both have have one pair each.

a5minmajor on June 12, 2014 at 6:36 PM

hmm…those quotes came out kinda funny, but you get the idea.

a5minmajor on June 12, 2014 at 6:37 PM

A third possibility is that she never intended to run and she is just absorbing all the negative attention that would otherwise go to Coumo, Warren and the other potential candidates.

Flange on June 12, 2014 at 6:17 PM

No way on Earth a Clinton would ever be that selfless.

slickwillie2001 on June 12, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Shrillary can quote Vanilla Ice for her defence:

“It’s not where you are from, it’s where you’re at.”

FrankT on June 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM

No way on Earth a Clinton would ever be that selfless.

slickwillie2001 on June 12, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Who said it was selfless? If that’s what she is doing, she’s getting compensated somehow.

Flange on June 12, 2014 at 7:05 PM

It’s because of interviews like this that Terry Gross is my favorite leftist.

RayinVA on June 12, 2014 at 7:22 PM

At least not for the blast walls…
Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Is that some new ghey sex technique?

Nutstuyu on June 12, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Again, we see that Hillary is simply NOT a good candidate. She only wins when everyone else lays down and throws petals at her feet, as in New York. She lacks the basic political skill of Bill, who would have thanked Gross for the question and gave a meandering but engaging answer that would have left her wondering what the heck she asked in the first place.

Hillary hasn’t got that skill or charm. She’s just a haughty, mean, dishonest witch, and it comes through.

Adjoran on June 12, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Uh, I thought everyone knew that Hillary’s marriage is just a marriage in name only and she is gay.

SC.Charlie on June 12, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Politicians need to get ahead on this issue. Because their bigoted comments will definitely come back to haunt them in several years. Limiting support to only that which is popular now will definitely harm someone politically in the future.

How do you not see this?

blink on June 12, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Sure it would be like a Representative being in the past a KKK member… I mean he’d get booted once the KKK was no longer even close to mainstream, right?

Which I’m guessing must have happened after 2010 when Byrd died while still in office… weird that blatant abject racism in the past was 100% A-OK and not at all a problem; but past opposition to gay marriage would be.

Why precisely is personal opposition to gay marriage worse than being a Klansman?

I’m just trying to understand. I get that being in the KKK was ok, but opposing gay marriage is a death knell forever… but I’m not clear how to square that circle.

gekkobear on June 12, 2014 at 9:33 PM

I notice she keeps throwing out Bill’s name whenever she thinks it will help her and then gets mad when a reporter brings up an unpleasant policy position for liberals from his presidency.

HellCat on June 12, 2014 at 9:39 PM

Well, now we know that on the libbie list of priorities, Hillary comes in somewhere after Teh Gheys. Ouch, girl!

ncinca on June 12, 2014 at 10:35 PM

OK, so let me help you out: You don’t have one tiny little inkling about what Hillary actually believes. She’s a psychopathic politician who attempts to calculate every single utterance based on self-interest.

Jaibones on June 12, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Pretty much what I thought. It’s not a matter of Democrats deciding “it was politically safe to state their true opinions.” It’s about Democrats deciding that SSM support will gain them more votes than it will lose them at this point. Their political lives are about amassing as much wealth and influence as possible, and they will say whatever they need to in order to do it.

Sockpuppet Politic on June 13, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Hillary was expecting a free-ride from Radio Saigon but got into hot water for doing exactly what Obama did – wait for other free-thinkers (Joe Biden) to blurt out their support for pretend-gay-marriage, test for blow-back and then say they couldn’t be happier about it.

Of course, when Obama was campaigning the first time, he knew that revealing his inner-gay would have pushed his thug-supporters too far (not to mention plantation democrats, the white-guilt, momentous-and-historic-1st-half-black-president voters).

Of course, we are all in favor of pretend-gay-marriage now /sarc.

virgo on June 13, 2014 at 1:31 AM