And the first person to blame Bush for the crisis in Iraq is…

posted at 5:01 pm on June 12, 2014 by Noah Rothman

The explosion of bloodshed in Iraq has created the temptation for many to revisit their support for or opposition to the 2003 invasion of Iraq and to ascribe blame for the recent surge in violence to their preferred boogieman.

Not all have succumbed to the enticing lure of nostalgia. Not even consistent Iraq War and George W. Bush critic Fareed Zakaria allowed himself himself to take a swipe at the former commander-in-chief for looming over the present crisis.

Appearing on CNN on Thursday, Zakaria blamed Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki for undoing what he said was the good accomplished by Gen. David Petraeus following the 2007 Iraq surge. The CNN analyst said that, in the wake of U.S withdrawal, the Iraqi prime minister fostered the resentments among average Iraqis which have created the conditions in which a surge can flourish.

That’s significant for a number of reasons. Zakaria opposed the surge in 2007 for the same reasons he opposed Barack Obama’s surge into Afghanistan – it was a military operation when it should have been a political and economic one. Today, however, Zakaria appears to have moderated his position on the Iraq War in light of the last seven years.

Zakaria is owed some credit. Not everyone can shed a once favored but clearly defunct political narrative as gracefully as he has. Take, for instance, MSNBC host Joy Reid who educated her audience on the origins of the ISIS threat on Thursday.

“And now to the events in Iraq, which actually began with the invasion of Iraq,” she said. “The dissolution of its army later in 2003, a subsequent civil war, a surge that was supposed to give Iraq time to form a stable government and become a modern state, and the internecine political process that resulted instead.”

“Now, it’s this unpleasant recent history that helped set the stage for the bloody events that we’re seeing in Iraq right now,” Reid said. The MSNBC host conveniently forgot to include the fact that the ISIS rebellion was incubated in Syria – a civil war characterized by the use of chemical weapons on civilians and which the United States world failed to do anything about. The very name of the organization rampaging across Iraq today pays homage to its origins in that Mediterranean state.

Instead, Reid prefers to go back in history to the very roots of the modern Democratic Party, forged in opposition to the Iraq War. She might as well have gone back to the British Mandate of Mesopotamia or Iraq’s 1958 coup to “set the stage” for present events.

But even Reid did not go so far as to blame Bush by name for crisis in Iraq. No, that dubious distinction must be awarded to Republican-turned-independent-turned-Democratic governor of Rhode Island, Lincoln Chafee.

Seeing a moment of political opportunism, Chafee jumped at the chance to remind his state’s liberal voters that he opposed the Iraq Ware while serving in the U.S. Senate.

“I never understood the original push for war in Iraq, never understood the logic of regime change,” Chafee said. “These neocons [neo-conservatives] all through the ’90s were talking the importance of regime change in Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein, the strongman. I just didn’t understand stirring up the hornets’ nest that is the Middle East. It just never made any sense to me, and now we’re seeing some of the ramifications of having deviated from our Cold War containment strategy.”

Channeling George Kennan, Chafee insisted that the United States could have and should have contained Iraq 11 years ago. “It worked in Russia,” he said. “It worked in China.” Maybe he forgets that the West functionally abandoned containment in the 1950s in favor of a policy advocating the “rollback” of the Communist world. That shift in tactics eventually resulted in the liberation of Eastern Europe.

But, anyway, back to Chafee’s melancholy romp through events in the distant past:

“I always thought our Cold War strategy depended on strong alliances,” the Ocean State’s governor said, vividly recounting the heated cable news segments of 2002. “Those have been fractured through this misadventure.”

*Obviously, it’s happening in Syria. I just believe in multinational approaches that are respectful of everybody’s positions. We deviated from that respect. We’ve got to try rebuilding those alliances with the Saudis, the Turks, the Jordanians — that’s going to be the key.”

And that project has been going swimmingly.

Credit where credit is due; more than a handful of political commentators have been able to take into account that Barack Obama has been president for nearly six years while commenting on the renewed violence in Iraq. For some, though, it will always be those heady 22 months leading up to the Iraq War.


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…Jihadist JugEars…OWNS it!

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Zak is an utterly predictable leftist political hack masquerading as a journalist.

Whitey Ford on June 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM

That republica chic?

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 5:05 PM

I guessed Harry Reid. Oh well.

SoulGlo on June 12, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Actually, it all started with Saddam’s invasion of Kuwait.

John the Libertarian on June 12, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Joy Reid?

kcewa on June 12, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Obama was handed victory in Iraq and like everything else he has touched it has all turned to crap.There is NOTHING this bumbler in chief has done well except screw up.

HotAirian on June 12, 2014 at 5:06 PM

What I want to know is why they all have new Toyota Tundras for their drive to Iraq.

Probably not what Toyota wanted was pictures of these jihadists driving around in the desert. Their slogan “Let’s Go Places” is really a hit, I guess…

Washington Fancy on June 12, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Lolz!

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Damn! My money was on Peloseri.

trader67 on June 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Signing off. Watching The Five on Fox.

SC.Charlie on June 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM

That republica chic?

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 5:05 PM

We might have finally found out who “she” is.

Steve Eggleston on June 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM

I think Col Mustard did it with the candelabra in the study room.e

307wolverine on June 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM

I blame mohammad.

Ronnie on June 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM

That republica chic?

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 5:05 PM

LOL– That’s what I thought too.

Certainly the first Hotair troll to blame Bush!

melle1228 on June 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM

So, Obama drops the ball handed to him by Bush, and it’s Bush’s fault when he loses the game?

Yeah, that’s pretty typical, isn’t it?

JannyMae on June 12, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Obama was handed victory in Iraq and like everything else he has touched it has all turned to crap.There is NOTHING this bumbler in chief has done well except screw up.

HotAirian on June 12, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Whacha talkin’ about? He healed the planet and stopped the oceans from rising. What more do you want?

307wolverine on June 12, 2014 at 5:09 PM

“These neocons [neo-conservatives] all through the ’90s were talking the importance of regime change in Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein, the strongman.

Who knew Bill Clinton, Madeline Albright, Al Gore, John Kerry, etc, were ‘neo-cons’?

Hypocrisy Alert! Clinton, Kerry, Gore & Other Democrats Talk About Saddam’s WMD BEFORE AND AFTER Bush Is President and Call for War Against Iraq

Resist We Much on June 12, 2014 at 5:10 PM

That republica chic?

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Racist! Are you from Alabama by any chance? ;)

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 5:11 PM

4 terms of GWB might just put him in the poor house when he leaves in 2016… – Killary Clinton

Electrongod on June 12, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Looks like “Blame BUSH!” was the topic of choice at today’s left-winger propaganda machine meeting!

Jesse Jackson blames guess who?

JannyMae on June 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM

LET’S GO PLACES

http://tinypic.com/r/c5agj/8

Washington Fancy on June 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM

We might have finally found out who “she” is.

Steve Eggleston on June 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM

I’m guessing rogue OFA/MediaMatters troll.

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM

The funny thing is that Obama took credit for getting us out of Iraq. He had no problem doing that when Bush had already set it up.. Now that it has gone to $hit; he is going to completely blame the whole thing on BOOOOOOSH!

melle1228 on June 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Don’t worry, it’s just a warmup for Barry.

formwiz on June 12, 2014 at 5:13 PM

“I blame Reagan” – Elizabeth Warren

TarheelBen on June 12, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Zakaria is a buffoon.

Bush had a new SOFA deal worked out with a sizable ongoing troop presence and two bases. We would have been able to snuff out any flare-ups from the west or east, and had a nice position to keep an eye on the whole region.

All Obama had to do was allow the theater commander to sign it and finish the minor details. He did nothing.

Adjoran on June 12, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Dude…blaming Bush is so last year.

Yankee Doodle on June 12, 2014 at 5:14 PM

I opposed the invasion of Iraq in 2003 for a variety of reasons. But we invaded anyway.

Once we invaded the “Pottery Barn” rule took effect. (“You break it, you own it.”) We had a moral and strategic obligation to ensure there would be peace and stability when we left. We did not meet that obligation.

BTW – One of the reasons I opposed the original invasion was just this scenario.

myiq2xu on June 12, 2014 at 5:14 PM

I think Col Mustard did it with the candelabra in the study room.e

307wolverine on June 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Haven’t our vets taken enough hits lately ;}

LarryinLA on June 12, 2014 at 5:15 PM

I opposed the invasion of Iraq in 2003 for a variety of reasons. But we invaded anyway.

Once we invaded the “Pottery Barn” rule took effect. (“You break it, you own it.”) We had a moral and strategic obligation to ensure there would be peace and stability when we left. We did not meet that obligation.

BTW – One of the reasons I opposed the original invasion was just this scenario.

myiq2xu on June 12, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Bingo!

melle1228 on June 12, 2014 at 5:16 PM

The funny thing is that Obama took credit for getting us out of Iraq. He had no problem doing that when Bush had already set it up.. Now that it has gone to $hit; he is going to completely blame the whole thing on BOOOOOOSH!

melle1228 on June 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Yeah, no kidding. Obama declared that HE had won the war in Iraq – when he had opposed the surge every step of the way – and Biden declared that it was the administration’s “greatest achievement.”

TarheelBen on June 12, 2014 at 5:16 PM

I opposed the invasion of Iraq in 2003 for a variety of reasons. But we invaded anyway.

Once we invaded the “Pottery Barn” rule took effect. (“You break it, you own it.”) We had a moral and strategic obligation to ensure there would be peace and stability when we left. We did not meet that obligation.

BTW – One of the reasons I opposed the original invasion was just this scenario.

myiq2xu on June 12, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Agree with ya.

bazil9 on June 12, 2014 at 5:17 PM

When will they start blaming Kennedy for Viet Nam?

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Well without Iraq there wouldn’t be Obama.
So yes Bush owns Iraq and the destruction of America begin accelerated by Obama.

weedisgood on June 12, 2014 at 5:21 PM

I don’t think we’ll make it to the end of the Obama Administration before the real crap hits the fan. These are just the preliminaries. The main event is coming right up!

Deano1952 on June 12, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Wow, I guess Talibama shouldn’t have armed those Al Qaeda “rebels” in Libya, huh?

The power vacuum in Iraq is DIRECTLY the result of Talibama, his weakness, telling Al Qaeda when we were pulling out, and tucking tail and running like a DOG from Iraq.

Seriously, if Talibama is so dumb as to have not seen this, he should be impeached for criminal stupidity.

If he did see it coming, and refused to do anything to stop it, or even contributed to it by giving these people arms, should be impeached for criminal negligence and/or treason.

Meople on June 12, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Well without Iraq there wouldn’t be Obama.
So yes Bush owns Iraq and the destruction of America begin accelerated by Obama.

weedisgood on June 12, 2014 at 5:21 PM

And there wouldn’t have been a Bush if it wasn’t for Clinton!! Now how far back are you willing to go?? Go smoke your weed!!

Deano1952 on June 12, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Well without Iraq there wouldn’t be Obama.

weedisgood on June 12, 2014 at 5:21 PM

LOL…

Electrongod on June 12, 2014 at 5:23 PM

This Cat0strophic Superiority Super StateCraft Fire-Power,
is on Hopey The Changeys Watch!

Five long years of Dereliction of Duty, on the
“WARS”!!!

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 5:23 PM

I blame mohammad.

Ronnie on June 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Spot on. Keeping the prospective.

Oil Can on June 12, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Speaking of Afghanistan:

US Army Sgt. Bergdahl freed
15m
Pentagon confirms Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is aboard a US military aircraft en route San Antonio, Texas – @NBCNews
End of alert

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 5:24 PM

I opposed the invasion of Iraq in 2003 for a variety of reasons. But we invaded anyway.

Once we invaded the “Pottery Barn” rule took effect. (“You break it, you own it.”) We had a moral and strategic obligation to ensure there would be peace and stability when we left. We did not meet that obligation.

BTW – One of the reasons I opposed the original invasion was just this scenario.

myiq2xu on June 12, 2014 at 5:14 PM

I agree. I was against the original invasion of Iraq because I was concerned it would make Iran stronger. Iran, in my opinion, was and is a bigger threat. But once we were there – with the support of Congress and the American people – I supported doing what was necessary to win – and also win the peace – which Obama has failed to do.

TarheelBen on June 12, 2014 at 5:24 PM

I am very optimistic about Iraq. I think it’s gonna be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re gonna see 90,000 troops come marching home by the end of the summer. You’re gonna see a stable Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government…I’ve been impressed by how they’ve been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences.

- Joe Biden, 11 February 2010

Resist We Much on June 12, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Chafee – just another of the lite intelligentsia who rewrites history to support liberal ideology. Note: if often requires a certain amount of self-imposed amnesia.

GarandFan on June 12, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Certainly the first Hotair troll to blame Bush!

melle1228 on June 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Nope. Our good friend weedisgood blamed Bush several hours ago on one of the first Iraq threads.

I’m too lazy to dig it up.

Alien on June 12, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Actually, it all started with Saddam’s invasion of Kuwait.

John the Libertarian on June 12, 2014 at 5:06 PM

That certainly let the world know Saddam wasn’t running some bystander country that would live peacefully with it’s neighbors, and it flaunted his determination to not follow any UN mandates. Which he did when he was required to hand over all documents related to WMD that even Ray Charles could clearly see he had and used numerous time in the past.

Saddam refused the document…until his 11th hour pile of nonsense he finally sent, but was worthless, and also booted UN weapons inspectors on more than one occasion. That alone violated the UN mandate. France and Germany bailed on enforcing that mandate like the weasels they were, and after quite a bit of back and forth, Bush got the congressional support for the Iraq invasion.

That the Democrats lay the war on Bush’s lap alone is petty, and downright cowardly. And it’s only a matter of time before the calls of “Bush’s fault” creep out of the Democrat side of the aisle in the Capitol. And it’s foul stank will, in short order,permeate every corner.

JetBoy on June 12, 2014 at 5:25 PM

The only thing worse than entering a war of debatable value (I supported it, but run poorly and too much $), is entering, paying the price in lives, achieving many of your goals, then throwing it away to your adversaries.

Heckuva job, Barry. The Hard Left must be SO proud.

orangemtl on June 12, 2014 at 5:26 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WANTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CONTACT THE STATE DEPARTMENT if you have seen POTUSA!

MIA….COMMANDER IN CHIEF

MIA…LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD

DERILICTION OF DUTY

TREASON

IF you know the where abouts,please….contact
FBI,CIA,ICE,or your State Local Authorities!!!
(snark).

canopfor on September 23, 2010 at 8:59 AM

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM

I’m too lazy to dig it up.

Alien on June 12, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Contact High?

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM

This has to be some of the worst analysis I’ve ever read on HA.

1) Bush was a moron. He got tons of our guys killed for nothing. This could never have worked.

2) Zakaria is a media jihadist. Unindicated by Rothman.

3) Screw Iraq. Let all the Muslims kill each other.

4) Who’s bright idea was it to hire Noah Rothman? The guy makes Bill Kristol look smart.

WhatSlushfund on June 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Bush-bashing is legitimate; not just on the wars. The only reason Bush didn’t sign a nation-killing amnesty is that Kennedy and McCain couldn’t get one to his desk. That’s not a President to love.

But nobody could have less excuse than Obama does to hide behind Bush.

The liberal media bashed Bush continually for eight years, Obama ran against Bush twice and won twice (despite the fact that Bush wasn’t on the ticket either time), and the media still keeps bashing Bush.

So there is nothing Bush did that Obama could not ditch, to wild liberal cheering, if he really wanted to. If he escalated in Afghanistan, that was his choice. If he did not close Gitmo after promising his supporters he would, that was his choice. And so on. Any Bush policy Obama keeps, he chose to keep.

It’s all on him. His hands were not tied, if he wanted to go another way.

David Blue on June 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Racist! Are you from Alabama by any chance? ;)

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Nope, from the uber-racist Chicagoland area. Home of that Illinidiva dude and various other elitist parvenus.

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 5:30 PM

And the first person to blame Bush for the crisis in Iraq is…

Bush has an ex-wife?

Nomennovum on June 12, 2014 at 5:30 PM

And the world in unison still said, “Lincoln Who?” They probably called everyone on their contact list before they got this dummy who would say anything.

Cindy Munford on June 12, 2014 at 5:30 PM

‘I am very optimistic about Iraq. I think it’s gonna be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re gonna see 90,000 troops come marching home by the end of the summer. You’re gonna see a stable Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government…I’ve been impressed by how they’ve been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences.‘

- Joe Biden, 11 February 2010

Resist We Much on June 12, 2014 at 5:24 PM

…now they’re firing shotguns…trough the front door!

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2014 at 5:30 PM

I don’t think we’ll make it to the end of the Obama Administration before the real crap hits the fan. These are just the preliminaries. The main event is coming right up!

Deano1952 on June 12, 2014 at 5:21 PM

I’m tending to agree with you about the upcoming main event…but not by 2016. This will come to fruition around one or two years after The One is out. But I’m confident the wheels of whatever is coming have started to turn.

May God help us.

JetBoy on June 12, 2014 at 5:31 PM

WhatSlushfund on June 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Yeah, you’re right. I have nothing else to say in this thread. It’s not worth it.

David Blue on June 12, 2014 at 5:31 PM

We really need to be more careful who we let into the country.

The media circles the wagons for Obama for the 4,762,916th time.

bw222 on June 12, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Barry O told us that Al Qaeda was on the run in 2012.

They’re running forward, and our soldiers and the civilized people of Iraq are running backward.

Heck of a job, Barackward!

Steve Z on June 12, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Who said this about Iraq in 2011:

“Yeah. A couple of things. One, you probably know that it is my view that the withdrawal of all of our troops from Iraq by the end of this year is an enormous mistake and a failing by the Obama administration. Secretary Panetta and others had indicated they were working to put in place a Status of Forces Agreement to maintain our presence there, so that we could most effectively transition to the Iraqi military and Iraqi security forces providing security for their country.

“The precipitous withdrawal is unfortunate. It’s more than unfortunate. I think it’s tragic. It puts at risk many of the victories that were hard-won by the men and women who have served there. I hope the risk is not realized. I hope instead that the Iraqis are able to pick up the baton, and despite the fact that we will have walked away on a too-rapid basis.”

. . . .

“President Obama’s astonishing failure to secure an orderly transition in Iraq has unnecessarily put at risk the victories that were won through the blood and sacrifice of thousands of American men and women. The unavoidable question is whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude in negotiations with the Iraqi government.”

If you guessed Mitt Romney, the guy who Obama said was too naive and inexperienced to competently manage U.S. foreign policy, you are correct.

AZCoyote on June 12, 2014 at 5:34 PM

All I know is that we owe Jimmy Carter a big apology.

John the Libertarian on June 12, 2014 at 5:34 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WANTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CONTACT THE STATE DEPARTMENT if you have seen POTUSA!

MIA….COMMANDER IN CHIEF

MIA…LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD

DERILICTION OF DUTY

TREASON

IF you know the where abouts,please….contact
FBI,CIA,ICE,or your State Local Authorities!!!
(snark).

canopfor on September 23, 2010 at 8:59 AM

No, no…change that to:

UNWANTED!!! IF YOU KNOW WHEREABOUTS OF POTUS, DON’T TELL ANYONE AND JUST LEAVE HIM UNDER WHATEVER ROCK YOU FOUND HIM COWERING BEHIND.

;)

JetBoy on June 12, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Yes. It’s Bush’s fault the electorate was so stupid as to elect an uneducated unqualified black guy to the presidency based on pop culture and white guilt. Didn’t see that coming. Where can I get some of weedisgood’s choom? Maybe I can finish out this nightmare stoned to the, uh, gills…

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Darn, I would have bet my job that the first person was going to be Pelosi. Maybe tomorrow.

scalleywag on June 12, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Whacha talkin’ about? He healed the planet and stopped the oceans from rising. What more do you want?

Not so much. Just ask the people of NJ and NY after Hurricane Sandy if he kept the f’n ocean from rising. LOL

txdoc on June 12, 2014 at 5:37 PM

AZ:

From al-Qaeda to Russia to Iraq, Mitt Romney has not demonstrated that he meets the threshold to be Commander in Chief: OFA.BO/Kg1puj—

OFA TruthTeam (@OFATruthTeam) October 22, 2012

A Hat-Trick of FAIL!

Resist We Much on June 12, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Chafee insisted that the United States could have and should have contained Iraq 11 years ago

well we tried that for 8 or so years and hussein continuously
violated the un rules.
I agree we should not have gone in the way we did, we should have just killed hussein covertly and let the iraqis deal with their own crap.

dmacleo on June 12, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Zakaria blamed Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki

Zakaria is owed some credit.

Noah continues to be a useful idiot.

faraway on June 12, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Nope. Our good friend weedisgood blamed Bush several hours ago on one of the first Iraq threads.

I’m too lazy to dig it up.

Alien on June 12, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Did he beat this?

Could this have been avoided? Yes! By not f$@@king invading Iraq in the first place.

coolrepublica on June 12, 2014 at 1:35 PM

I think we still have a winner in republica…

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Washington Fancy on June 12, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Well, you’ll be happy to know those guys don’t need to ride around in Toyotas anymore. Now they can ride around in American-made up-armored HMMWVs.

GWB on June 12, 2014 at 5:43 PM

I knew it. I was thinking that when I first heard about it.

Blame Bush.

Axeman on June 12, 2014 at 5:44 PM

I think we still have a winner in republica…

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 5:41 PM

This whole troll racing thingy might have a future. I’m calling yours the winner Fallon. Allow me to present you with these for a fine race run.

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.

I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM

I get so tired of everything being politicized. We no longer have leaders who spring to action and work together to try and come up with a plan to deal with deadly conflicts, we have no leadership. Not in the House, not in the Senate, not in the State Department, the Pentagon, and certainly not in the White House. These idiots would rather sit around and point fingers while a nation is besieged by mad men. And journalists should put the blame where it belongs…on militant jihadists and brutal dictators.

scalleywag on June 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM

When will they start blaming Kennedy for Viet Nam?

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 5:17 PM

You mean Ike. Kennedy’s a Dem.

Axeman on June 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Allow me to present you with these for a fine race run.

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Turn that thing upside down and you’d have a beautiful funeral spray. (hint hint)

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM

You mean Ike. Kennedy’s a Dem.

Axeman on June 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Not really!

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM

canopfor on September 23, 2010 at 8:59 AM

No, no…change that to:

UNWANTED!!! IF YOU KNOW WHEREABOUTS OF POTUS, DON’T TELL ANYONE AND JUST LEAVE HIM UNDER WHATEVER ROCK YOU FOUND HIM COWERING BEHIND.

;)

JetBoy on June 12, 2014 at 5:34 PM

JetBoy: Good to see you,..Lmao,..yes,..better!!:)

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM

You mean Ike. Kennedy’s a Dem.

Axeman on June 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Not really!

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Not talking about some military advisors. I’m speaking of the escalation by Kennedy and Johnson. And let us not forget that Nixon ended it.

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 6:00 PM

When will they start blaming Kennedy for Viet Nam?

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 5:17 PM

You mean Ike. Kennedy’s a Dem.

Axeman on June 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM

I guess you folks don’t realize that the Vietnam War did not really take off until August 1964 with the Gulf of Tonkin resolution. Before then we only supplied South Vietnam with advisors. The anti-Vietnam chant used to go be, “LBJ how many boys did you kill today”. He said he would not run for reelection in March 1968. He was a broken man. He died in January 1973. He was only 62 years of age and had let hair grow long.

SC.Charlie on June 12, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Blame Bush for the catastrophic events in Iraq.
Wow that didn’t take long now did it?
Doesn’t matter though, HISTORY will put the blame SQUARELY where it belongs.
President 44.
Ya know, we need to cut James Earl Carter a little expo facto slack.

Missilengr on June 12, 2014 at 6:06 PM

I know and Kennedy was for lower taxes!

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Bush is partly responsible for this:

1. A few days after 9/11 he call islam a religion of peace…proving he is delusional

2. When the al sadr killed the American contractors, burned their bodies, and hung them from bridge in Iraq, Bush let him get away

3. Bush allowed Iraq to have an islamist constitution.

4. Bush continued to pander to the Saudi’s, Kuwait…et al.

5. Bush told Israel to let the islamists build a 23rd arab/islamist state in the middle of Israel.

Bush was not as bad as Obama…but he also is an islamist stooge

georgealbert on June 12, 2014 at 6:07 PM

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/iraq-violence/

Iraq
1h
Obama administration pledges $12.8 million more to help internally displaced people and conflict victims in Iraq – @peterbakernyt
see original on twitter.com

Iraq
1h
Stocks hit by Iraq and oil; S&P 500 off for 3rd day – @CNBC
End of alert

Iraq
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US Vice President Joe Biden spoke with Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki by phone and expressed US solidarity with Iraq in its fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – via @NBCNews

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Top UN official in Iraq tells UN Security Council there is no immediate danger of violence spreading to Baghdad, diplomats say – @Reuters
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Secretary of State John Kerry says he is ‘deeply concerned’ about what is happening in Iraq – @Reuters
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White House says oil refinery in Baiji, Iraq, remains in control of government – @Reuters

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 6:07 PM

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Not talking about some military advisors. I’m speaking of the escalation by Kennedy and Johnson. And let us not forget that Nixon ended it. – Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 6:00 PM

The Democrat Congress ended it when they forced Nixon to resign over nothing and then pulled all funding for the South Vietnamese.

SC.Charlie on June 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Obama is clearly responsible for allowing the situation in Iraq to turn into a complete disaster. He owns it. Take a dose of reality, progressives. Obama owns this mess. He’s had six years in office. It’s his, a result of his policies which, if he had acted differently, might well have mitigated the situation to a salvageable one.

Now, for the rabid conservatives, the other side from progressives on the loony coin: Bush’s biggest mistake, of his entire presidency, was invading Iraq. He owns that decision. Others from both parties were complicit in supporting it, but he was the one who, as Commander in Chief, made the call. We’re going to pay a price for that decision for decades to come, in dead and injured Americans from the war, in a country that rather than ruled by a stable strongman (an evil man, but a stable nation nonetheless) may end up turning into a haven for terrorists, and in dead civilians by the tens of thousands. Bush owns the decision to go to war in Iraq, and even he doesn’t deny it. It will be his forever.

Blame. There’s lots of it around. Now, we need an actual leader to implement policies that improve things on the ground. Too bad we don’t have one. At least Bush had the balls to grab a tough decision by the horns and wrestle it to the ground by making a choice.

xNavigator on June 12, 2014 at 6:10 PM

I know and Kennedy was for lower taxes!

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 6:07 PM

People are always going on about how JFK couldn’t be a democrat today. I call BS. He would have been exactly what his fat useless brother became. Jeb Bush was a great governor. However I wouldn’t vote for him for dog-eater catcher now.

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 6:10 PM

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/iraq-violence/

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State Department confirms US contractors in Balad, Iraq, are ‘being temporarily relocated by their companies’; embassy, consulate staffing hasn’t changed – @attackerman

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 6:11 PM

canopfor on June 12, 2014 at 6:12 PM

The Democrat Congress ended it when they forced Nixon to resign over nothing and then pulled all funding for the South Vietnamese.

SC.Charlie on June 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Look Charlie I’m not here to split hairs with you. I am speaking like a democrat voter. The economy was supposedly going gangbusters in the 1990′s so it was obviously due to Bill Clinton’s leadership and acumen.

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Allow me to present you with these for a fine race run.

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Wow. My first troll race win AND flowers. Wow.

After seeing the Kentucky Derby, granddaughter wants a pony… These flowers would go well with a pony.

Fallon on June 12, 2014 at 6:13 PM

I know and Kennedy was for lower taxes!

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 6:07 PM
People are always going on about how JFK couldn’t be a democrat today. I call BS. He would have been exactly what his fat useless brother became. Jeb Bush was a great governor. However I wouldn’t vote for him for dog-eater catcher now.

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 6:10 PM

At least he defended his country.

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 6:16 PM

At least he defended his country.

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 6:16 PM

So did Jimmy Carter.

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.

I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.
Sven on June 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Any takers?

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Any takers?

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Sounds like Slick Willie.

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Did anyone blame General George Washington yet?

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Bmore on June 12, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Well he owned slaves so it is probably his fault.

Cindy Munford on June 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM

At least he defended his country.

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 6:16 PM
So did Jimmy Carter.

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 6:18 PM

They had a little different experiences lol.

Sven on June 12, 2014 at 6:29 PM

I’m going to blame General Brickwall Jackson.

Judge_Dredd on June 12, 2014 at 6:30 PM

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