White House: Lindsey Graham won and Cantor lost because Graham really tried to sell immigration reform

posted at 5:31 pm on June 11, 2014 by Allahpundit

I was willing to give them a pass on this moronic theory last night because, like everyone else, they were caught off-guard by Dave Brat’s upset and needed to cook up some spin on the fly.

What’s the excuse for still pushing it 18 hours later?

“Majority Leader Cantor campaigned very aggressively against common sense, bipartisan immigration reform but yet in the analysis there are some who suggest that his election was a key to getting immigration reform done,” [White House press secretary Josh] Earnest said. “I am not quite sure how people have reached that conclusion. It is the view of the White House that there is support all across the country for common sense bipartisan immigration reform.”

Like Senate Democrats have, Earnest pointed out that a sponsor and advocate for the Senate bill, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, won his Republican primary on the same night Cantor lost his.

Graham made a “persuasive case why comprehensive immigration reform was the right thing for the country.”

So Grahamnesty, who hails from a deeply red state, won by … shilling outright for legalizing illegals whereas Cantor, whose home state is more moderate, got obliterated for pushing … something more moderate? Hello?

In fairness to Earnest, though, he’s smart to contrast Graham’s win with Cantor’s loss, even if no one takes the White House’s explanation seriously. It does seem odd at first blush that someone universally recognized as a RINO would win easily in a state that’s famously conservative while Cantor, a more reliable righty, would fall apart back home. How do you square that circle? Actually, pretty easily. Re-read this morning’s post about Cantor’s fatal disengagement from his home district, a perception among voters that Brat’s populist campaign fully exploited. Or better yet, don’t re-read it. Read Sean Trende’s elegant piece at RCP making the same point instead. He’s got firsthand experience with Cantor’s aloofness. So do many other voters in VA-7, no doubt.

Compare Richard Lugar and Orrin Hatch. Both came to the Senate in the same year, and both were moderately conservative members of that body, at least by present standards. But in his 2012 re-election race, Hatch fought from day one, corralled key endorsements from Mark Levin, discouraged quality challengers like Rep. Jason Chaffetz, and managed to clear a very conservative convention and win his primary election handily. He didn’t remake himself or his voting record entirely, but he did play like he was 10 points behind.

Lugar, on the other hand, ran a terrible Senate campaign, beset by allegations that he’d failed even to maintain a proper residence in the state. He looked like he’d “gone Washington.” He lost…

I have yet to read anything suggesting that Cantor had a good home style. His staff is consistently described as aloof, and his constituent service is lacking. This is consistent with my experience. Anecdotes are not data, but after passage of the Affordable Care Act, I called his office with a question about what autism therapies for my son would now be covered (I lived in Cantor’s district for six years). I never heard back. This surprised me, as constituent questions rarely go unanswered. I never once saw Cantor, not at county fairs, not at school board meetings, and not in the parades that would sometimes march past our house (we lived on a major thoroughfare). This isn’t to say that Cantor never did these things, only that they weren’t frequent enough to register; he wasn’t the stereotypical Southern politician whose face showed up at every event.

Backing amnesty, even a limited amnesty like DREAM, was damaging but being seen as having “gone Washington” at a populist moment when voters are seething with contempt for D.C. is fatal. What’s interesting about Cantor, though, is that he wasn’t caught napping by his challenger the way Bob Bennett, Lugar, and now Thad Cochran were. All three of those men campaigned lightly early in their primaries because they didn’t take the threat from a primary seriously. It wasn’t just a matter of having a poor “home style”; they were lazy in not moving forcefully to squash their opponent before he built up momentum. Cantor was forceful. He spent millions on ads, attacked Brat as a closet liberal, and even tried to reposition himself as a stalwart opponent of immigration reform to guard his right flank. Didn’t matter. The takeaway is that, at least in a small race like a House district, parachuting into your home district a few months before the election and kitchen-sinking the guy running against you might not be enough. Voters have long memories. Which is another reason to be happy about Brat’s win: Other House Republicans watching this will conclude that they need to spend more of their time back home and less time in Washington.

Cantor’s farewell press conference has just started as I’m writing this. While we wait for news, here’s Rush Limbaugh wondering whether amnesty’s as dead as the conventional wisdom would have you believe. Scott Brown’s big upset was supposed to have killed ObamaCare in the Senate, after all. How’d that work out?


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As opposed to shoving it down our throat like Cantor?

8 weight on June 11, 2014 at 5:35 PM

What’s the excuse for still pushing it 18 hours later?

They’re despicable, lying scumbags who have learned well under the tutelage of the malevolent retard in the White House and his imbecilic junta.

“Always double down on stupid!!” — King Admiral Emperor Barky, Dog Connoisseur

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 11, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Given the Sarah Palin-ness of Brat, I have a feeling the pro-immigration forces are going to do a lot better in the next 12 months than nativists believe. It’s not going to be pretty.

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Goebbels just wet his grave, all around.

Cool

Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Given the Sarah Palin-ness of Brat, I have a feeling the pro-immigration forces are going to do a lot better in the next 12 months than nativists believe. It’s not going to be pretty.

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Does everybody poop?

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 9:23 AM

Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 5:39 PM

While we wait for news, here’s Rush Limbaugh wondering whether amnesty’s as dead as the conventional wisdom would have you believe. Scott Brown’s big upset was supposed to have killed ObamaCare in the Senate, after all. How’d that work out?

As postulated by an HA poster early this morning, by the way.

Midas on June 11, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Baghdad WH Bob – ‘We are vinning”

Nevsky on June 11, 2014 at 5:40 PM

How it must hurt to be a DIABLO or the slave of HA.

Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 5:40 PM

So the establishment is playing down the loss by throwing Cantor under the bus. They just do not get it.

Given the Sarah Palin-ness of Brat, I have a feeling the pro-immigration forces are going to do a lot better in the next 12 months than nativists believe. It’s not going to be pretty.

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:38 PM

We are all “pro-immigration.” One of us just want immigrants to use legal means, not jump fences.

melle1228 on June 11, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Amnesty is NOT immigration reform, nor legal immigration.

Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Given the Sarah Palin-ness of Brat, I have a feeling the pro-illegal immigration forces are going to do a lot better in the next 12 months than pro-legal Immigration people believe. It’s not going to be pretty.

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:38 PM

It pays to be accurate.

ThePrez on June 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Comparing a senator to a representative is a bit silly. I believe the wisdom that that immigration was not as important to the loss as people believe. South Carolina is very conservative and they didn’t seem to care much. They saw the same drudge headlines, listened to the same Laura Ingram show and so forth. Overall the people of South Carolina were more happy with Lindsey than the people of cantor’d district.

coolrepublica on June 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Horse$hit.

BigWyo on June 11, 2014 at 5:42 PM

If Pro-drug-cartel crowndd manages tries to push Amnesty to rapists and murderers, what happened to Cantor will seem like a ‘thank you’ note from grateful constituents.

Nevsky on June 11, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Voters are strongly against amnesty. That’s why amnesty supporters have to lie to voters, hide their true intentions and pay a lot of money for many ads like this:

VIDEO: http://youtu.be/ecrUDjMlf5s. (Gives impression Graham and Rubio are for getting “tough” on illegal aliens!)

Their strategy is to claim that the illegal alien amnesty they’re pushing is not “amnesty.”

For anyone to claim that Graham won because of his amnesty support is absurd!

bluegill on June 11, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Amnesty is NOT immigration reform, nor legal immigration.
Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM

You are right but from I have read on hotair many people think they are one in the same. So you may be talking in the wind here. But good luck!

coolrepublica on June 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM

What’s the excuse for still pushing it 18 hours later?

They’re stupid? Incompetent?

Why can’t it be both?

Bigbullets on June 11, 2014 at 5:45 PM

While we wait for news, here’s Rush Limbaugh wondering whether amnesty’s as dead as the conventional wisdom would have you believe. Scott Brown’s big upset was supposed to have killed ObamaCare in the Senate, after all. How’d that work out?

I don’t trust the Vichy GOP as far as I can throw Chrispie Chreme … but let’s be straight about what happened with Scott brown’s election: BarkyCare certainly WAS killed int he Senate. That’s why the House had to pass the last Senate bill – which was never intended to be THE BILL – and that’s why they tried to go with DemonPass and all the other shenanigans so that the House didn’t have to put their signatures on that POS Senate bill (even the brain-dead lefties were embarrassed about the Senate bill).

The point, however, was that BarkyCare was supposed to be dead IN CONGRESS after Brown’s election. Pretty much everyone assumed it was. They didn’t count on the third-world Indonesian SackOS just giving America the finger and pushing ahead with it, anyway. It took someone with no American sensibilities and no connection to America to even think to push that POS ahead after Brown’s election … but, that’s the sort of thing that someone who’s not a natural born citizen and with no cultural connection to America would do – as was warned about back in 2008.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 11, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Wow, these liberals suck at lying, but they are good at reverse psychology.

Everybody knows it was about Amnesty.

sentinelrules on June 11, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Whoa. Listening to Rush. The border is being “flooded with illegal immigrant refugee children?” Is that so? What is “flooded?” How many people are we talking about. Thousands? The border is enormous.

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Also? is Rush saying that we have refugee camps in this country? Filled with minors? If so, why on earth is that not on the evening news?

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Given the Sarah Palin-ness of Brat, I have a feeling the pro-illegal immigration forces are going to do a lot better in the next 12 months than pro-legal Immigration people believe. It’s not going to be pretty.

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Brat is the right-wing Piketty except Brat doesn’t fudge his data and doesn’t beat up women.

sentinelrules on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

LOL, good old Mr. Limbaugh… still living in degressives’ heads rent free all these years.

Nevsky on June 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Also? is Rush saying that we have refugee camps in this country? Filled with minors? If so, why on earth is that not on the evening news?

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

You must be new. Welcome to America!

ThePrez on June 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM

SC had 6 run against 1. Can’t win much that way. Now, if all 6 would have united around one the picture would have been different. Plus, Miss Lindsey made peace with the conservatives and didn’t go to FL to support the GOPe’s efforts in making anti-TEA party videos, sticking a big finger into the eyes of good people.

The Senate has already passed the fiasco bill. It is known, by smart people, that the slightest passage of anything in the House will bring the two chambers together and then they shove a big turd down the throat of the legal American people, who have to support the others (they already do, but then the others would vote against the hands that feed them).

The danger lies in the House.

The political earthquake of last night was just a small 1.0 on the Richter scale, but it’s sweet to observe the usual rats, from both sides. The latrines are having slush throw against all walls.

Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Whoa. Listening to Rush. The border is being “flooded with illegal immigrant refugee children?” Is that so? What is “flooded?” How many people are we talking about. Thousands? The border is enormous.

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Border Sheriff Likens Influx Of Illegal Immigrants To Hurricane Katrina

sentinelrules on June 11, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Comparing a senator to a representative is a bit silly. I believe the wisdom that that immigration was not as important to the loss as people believe. South Carolina is very conservative and they didn’t seem to care much. They saw the same drudge headlines, listened to the same Laura Ingram show and so forth. Overall the people of South Carolina were more happy with Lindsey than the people of cantor’d district.

coolrepublica on June 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Graham simply benefitted from having six separate supposed TEA party candidates to run against. The base couldn’t coalesce around anyone. Cantor only had to contend with Brat. If there had been a single opponent then Graham might have been in trouble. He benefitted from TP disorganization.

Charlemagne on June 11, 2014 at 5:49 PM

It’s bs that Lindsey sold immigration reform. The truth is that the opposition was fragmented and didn’t have the resources to mount an attack on Lindsey, plus Lindsey was attractive to many low information voters for other reasons.

We know that SC Rs do not want amnesty. Neither does the country as a whole, I believe, and the supposed polls showing that are misleading. “Amnesty” vs “some form of immigration reform” are two different things.

Indeed, it’s not about selling amnesty “immigration reform,” it’s about selling the opposition to amnesty! My commment from the earlier thread:

Millions upon millions of Reagan Dems and independents are shocked by “our” country being inundated and soon merged with the Latino countries. We can appeal to these voters, AND WIN.

We either have to get loud about the outrage that is happening to our country, or forget it, we aren’t going to win.

Because we are not going to win in 2016 by making the election about “the economy, stupid.” Nor on Obamacare I’m afraid. Obamacare will help us, but it won’t be enough. We have to get a strong stomach and stop being so timid, and stand up and face down this unparallelled invasion of aliens that will literally destroy our country.

anotherJoe on June 11, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Scott Brown’s big upset was supposed to have killed ObamaCare in the Senate, after all.

.

I keep seeing this argument but the two aren’t synonymous. Brown’s win brought the Democrats to below the 60 vote threshold for cloture. All the Democrats did was use procedural chicanery to get the bill through. Support never changed, just the metrics for passage.

blammm on June 11, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Also? is Rush saying that we have refugee camps in this country? Filled with minors? If so, why on earth is that not on the evening news?

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

It was a story on CNN last night with Don Lemon.

sentinelrules on June 11, 2014 at 5:50 PM

The lib site whose door I occasionally darken is claiming that Cantor was a threat to Boehner moving ahead on “immigration” reform.
I have a hunch it’s in the first stage of grieving.

22044 on June 11, 2014 at 5:50 PM

I will say living here in upper SC – Graham did not talk about Immigration Reform in the past couple months.

Not at all.

jake-the-goose on June 11, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Seriously every damn thread today?

gophergirl on June 11, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Also? is Rush saying that we have refugee camps in this country? Filled with minors? If so, why on earth is that not on the evening news?

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

To be serious, this is how it would go. Seeing as the MSM tilts heavily left, it`ll be covered if there are deaths or disease outbreaks. But it won`t be the Obama administration that`s faulted but those darned Republicans who are blocking amnesty reform.

ThePrez on June 11, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Yep. Stick with that.

JellyToast on June 11, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Also? is Rush saying that we have refugee camps in this country? Filled with minors? If so, why on earth is that not on the evening news?

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Good question. Only Drudge and Fox point them out. We have illegal child abuse. AZ will sue obama over this any moment now.

We also have obama’s open support for slave-labor and total disregard for a series of US laws.

The Beast, the name of the train that brings the kids from the South of Mexico, based on ads in their papers on what obama said, has kids literally falling off of it, daily.

No regards for children and human life and I blame obama and Cantor and their cabals for it.

obama, with this, killed Cantor.

They deserve each other but the land deserves way better. The children deserve way more humanity than this.

Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Also – Graham is nothing like Eric Cantor – Lindsey Graham is home all the time and he meets with South Carolina residents ALL THE TIME.

Lindsey Graham is a great retail politician – maybe one of the best in the nation.

FYI – I voted for Bill Connor yesterday.

jake-the-goose on June 11, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Considering that the current chaos on the border benefits Drug Cartels and prior history of President and Attorney General supplying arms to and laundering money for Drug Cartels, one might wonder if both of them have been bought with blood money.

Nevsky on June 11, 2014 at 5:53 PM

The Beast, the name of the train that brings the kids from the South of Mexico, based on ads in their papers on what obama said, has kids literally falling off of it, daily, many of them dying, left for the vultures.

Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Liberal politicians talk to America with the notion that we’re all idiots – this spiel about Grahamnesty is case in point, but the only people buying it are…

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Your IQ test came back. It was negative.

AubieJon on June 11, 2014 at 5:54 PM

‘FREE PASS’…
Sheriff Likens Influx Of Illegals To Hurricane Katrina…
Arpaio Worries Of Disease Being Brought Into USA…
Illegals flagging down border patrol to gain entry…
Central American newspapers tout Obama amnesty…
DANGER: CONDITIONS DETERIORATE AT AZ SHELTER…
Widespread sexual activity…
Issa: ‘Flood Going To Mean Children Dying‘…
Border Agent Issues Plea for Help…
PAPER: Influx ‘threatens to transform nation’…
‘Vast swaths’ of border unprotected, cartels ‘in control’…
Homeland Security chief: ‘Problem’…

– Drudge

Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Cantor’s farewell press conference has just started as I’m writing this. While we wait for news, here’s Rush Limbaugh wondering whether amnesty’s as dead as the conventional wisdom would have you believe. Scott Brown’s big upset was supposed to have killed ObamaCare in the Senate, after all. How’d that work out?

Not saying Rush is wrong, but this is apples and oranges. Scott Brown’s special election win DID kill Obamacare….in the Senate. The problem is the Dems had already rammed a bill through on a party-line vote back in December 2009 which allowed them one last attempt at passage by forcing enough of their House members(*cough* Stupak *cough*) to take one for the team and vote in favor of the Senate bill.

With amnesty, the only way this happens between now and the next Congress is if Boehner brings the bill to the floor and allows it to pass with a majority of Dems and minority of Republicans. The GOP is in control here(well, one member of the GOP anyway) whereas with Obamacare they were still at the mercy of Obama and Pelosi.

Doughboy on June 11, 2014 at 5:56 PM

FYI – I voted for Bill Connor yesterday.
jake-the-goose on June 11, 2014 at 5:52 PM

FYI – you’re also an amnesty supporter who has a history of calling amnesty opponents “freaks.”

Also – Cantor lost because of his support for illegal alien amnesty, against voters’ wishes.

bluegill on June 11, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Seriously every damn thread today?

gophergirl on June 11, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Hot Brat Air!

22044 on June 11, 2014 at 5:56 PM

‘Flood Going To Mean Children Dying‘…
Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Somewhere [in the White House] the man who voted twice to murder children, who survived abortion, rejoices.

Nevsky on June 11, 2014 at 5:57 PM

You are right but from I have read on hotair many people think they are one in the same. So you may be talking in the wind here. But good luck!

coolrepublica on June 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Why libdie said that I’m hated by the left/him and the conservatives/RINOs.

Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Seriously every damn thread today?

gophergirl on June 11, 2014 at 5:51 PM

C’mon. You know that this is nothing new. We’ve seen threadapaloozas before for gay marriage, Rand Paul, the VA scandal, the Bergdahl/Taliban swap, etc.

Bitter Clinger on June 11, 2014 at 5:59 PM

FYI – you’re also an amnesty supporter who has a history of calling amnesty opponents “freaks.”

Also – Cantor lost because of his support for illegal alien amnesty, against voters’ wishes.

bluegill on June 11, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Well my my – always in a good humor aren’t you?

I think Cantor’s loss was partly attributable to his stance on amnesty – but not entirely – he really went missing from his district, and I think that his constituents may have found Mr. Brat an attractive person to vote for.

Bottom line – Brat may have won – every bit as much as Cantor lost.

Brat appears to be a very solid man with great policy positions.

jake-the-goose on June 11, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Here is a fun factoid: Of the six challengers to Lindsey Graham, 6 of them reside in District 6 of South Carolina. District 6 has the only Democrat to the House of Representatives from South Carolina.

Joel_The_Oneth on June 11, 2014 at 6:01 PM

If anyone had any doubt that amnesty sunk Cantor then this White House statement should put that to rest. Tim Scott voted against the Senate amnesty bill and crushed his primary opponent with 90% of the vote. I’d day that’s more of a mandate than Lindsey’s 56%.

Wigglesworth on June 11, 2014 at 6:01 PM

The Reagan Democrats watch all of you, charlatans from both sides. This is the best article on the Brat knockout of Goliath.


MM in action

Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Well.. according to wiki.. there was no other source I could find.. in 2008 Graham had one primary challenger. He won his primary with 67% of the vote.

This primary he had 6 challengers and won with 57%.

That’s a 10 point drop and an increase of 5 challengers.

Yeah.. he can celebrate his victory… but it just might be his last win.

The point is.. it’s not getting any easier for these guys to keep their seats. It’s getting harder. They have to spend more money and the percentage they win with is narrowing. If it keeps up.. eventually they are going to lose.

The hand writing is on the wall. It’s not going to be so easy breasy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_South_Carolina,_2008

JellyToast on June 11, 2014 at 6:02 PM

The White House is just trying to give Republicans good political advice because they want Republicans to be politically successful. They certainly wouldn’t want to steer Republicans into a harmful direction.

Buddahpundit on June 11, 2014 at 6:02 PM

C’mon. You know that this is nothing new. We’ve seen threadapaloozas before for gay marriage, Rand Paul, the VA scandal, the Bergdahl/Taliban swap, etc.

Bitter Clinger on June 11, 2014 at 5:59 PM

gophergirl on June 11, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Hot Brat Air!

22044 on June 11, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Actually I meant that every thread I’m in has a liberal troll in it. Not in the mood today.

However I wouldn’t mind a change in threads either.

This made me smile
http://twitchy.com/2014/06/11/like-a-boss-was-rick-perry-awesomely-taunting-california-you-be-the-judge-photo/

gophergirl on June 11, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Also? is Rush saying that we have refugee camps in this country? Filled with minors? If so, why on earth is that not on the evening news?

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Great question.

Missy on June 11, 2014 at 6:03 PM

If anyone had any doubt that amnesty sunk Cantor then this White House statement should put that to rest. Tim Scott voted against the Senate amnesty bill and crushed his primary opponent with 90% of the vote. I’d day that’s more of a mandate than Lindsey’s 56%.

Wigglesworth on June 11, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Good point.

jake-the-goose on June 11, 2014 at 6:03 PM

The point is.. it’s not getting any easier for these guys to keep their seats. It’s getting harder. They have to spend more money and the percentage they win with is narrowing. If it keeps up.. eventually they are going to lose.

JellyToast on June 11, 2014 at 6:02 PM

I think you may be right. November cannot come soon enough.

jake-the-goose on June 11, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Also? is Rush saying that we have refugee camps in this country? Filled with minors? If so, why on earth is that not on the evening news?

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

For the same reason that Benghazi has had all the national coverage of a Podunk, Iowa PTA meeting?

Bishop on June 11, 2014 at 6:04 PM

I’m kinda surprised the MSM isn’t covering the fact that minors from south of the border evidently have more facial hair than their northern counterparts.

CurtZHP on June 11, 2014 at 6:10 PM

I’m kinda surprised the MSM isn’t covering the fact that minors from south of the border evidently have more facial hair than their northern counterparts.

CurtZHP on June 11, 2014 at 6:10 PM

D’oh !!!

jake-the-goose on June 11, 2014 at 6:11 PM

I think you may be right. November cannot come soon enough.

jake-the-goose on June 11, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Just because a few of their high profile leaders have kept their seats.. they don’t have much to celebrate. Grahmnesty won.. but look at what he spent and look at how many challengers he had and the 10 point drop in his victory margin.

That means things are moving… there is a wave moving in a certain direction.. and that direction is against the establishment. It keeps building and building and shows no sign of waning.

They’re only hope is to pass amnesty and give full voting rights to a bunch of illegal migrants from central America. This is what it’s come to. But will that even work?

JellyToast on June 11, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Hey, someone finally found a use for Lindsey Graham! The trouble is that “someone” is Barack Obama, and the “use” is as a tool to advance the Democrat agenda. And we’re stuck with this idiot for another six years. Thanks, South Carolina.

*sigh*

alchemist19 on June 11, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Actually I meant that every thread I’m in has a liberal troll in it. Not in the mood today.

However I wouldn’t mind a change in threads either.

This made me smile
http://twitchy.com/2014/06/11/like-a-boss-was-rick-perry-awesomely-taunting-california-you-be-the-judge-photo/

gophergirl on June 11, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Oh, I see. :)

22044 on June 11, 2014 at 6:14 PM

That means things are moving… there is a wave moving in a certain direction.. and that direction is against the establishment. It keeps building and building and shows no sign of waning.

JellyToast on June 11, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Again – I think you are spot on.

The next couple/few of weeks are going to be filled with news

jake-the-goose on June 11, 2014 at 6:15 PM

And we’re stuck with this idiot for another six years. Thanks, South Carolina.

alchemist19 on June 11, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Fair enough – but we also gave the nation Tim Scott and Trey Gowdy.

On the whole, South Carolina is pretty well represented.

jake-the-goose on June 11, 2014 at 6:17 PM

One of the things I always liked about Charles Rangel was you knew where he stood on issues and he didn’t hide behind nuance. Graham took a position and articulated it. He didn’t have a lot of nuance and took some heat for it, but at least he was honest about his position. Cantor, on the other hand, would say one thing and then another. You really weren’t sure how he’d vote on the issue or how they would bring up the vote.

This House leadership has pulled some sneaky votes and that also could have had something to do with it. You’d have to think if Boehner pulled the votes on his own, without the support of the other leaders, there would have been hell to pay. So, it’s quite obvious there was agreement in leadership on the votes taken, without majority Republican support.

bflat879 on June 11, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Whoa. Listening to Rush. The border is being “flooded with illegal immigrant refugee children?” Is that so? What is “flooded?” How many people are we talking about. Thousands? The border is enormous.

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Yes it is thousands, fool. Don’t you read? Can’t you comprehend english?

Ta111 on June 11, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Whatever the White House says, the opposite is usually true.

supernova on June 11, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Anybody who thinks amnesty for illegal immigrants is dead is hopelessly naive. Its proponants will rest and watch and plot, but it will rise again.

And let us hope Dave Brat doesn’t think it will be so simple that he can stride into Congress like a conquering hero and everything will change, somehow.

One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its black gates are guarded by more than just orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume. Not with ten thousand men could you do this. It is folly.

Nomennovum on June 11, 2014 at 6:33 PM

It is the view of the White House that there is support all across the country for common sense bipartisan immigration reform.

The problem of course that at the White House, and in the Democrat leadership in Congress, common sense is a very rare bird. Their loose approximation of ‘common sense’ brought us Obamacare. We don’t need an immigration reform disaster to go along with that pile of doggie doo.

s1im on June 11, 2014 at 6:43 PM

More like graham won because his constituents are intensely stupid. Apologies to those constituents of his that voted otherwise, but you guys clearly did not do enough to vacate this fluffy amnesty shill from office.

Diluculo on June 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Does everybody poop?

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 9:23 AM

…I love how this sums up your time here!

KOOLAID2 on June 11, 2014 at 6:48 PM

libfreeordie on June 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Yes it is thousands, fool. Don’t you read? Can’t you comprehend english?

Ta111 on June 11, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Libfree can’t comprehend anything but his/her own bellybutton and welfare check. This creature should be one of the many liberal scumbags treated to a first hand view of a Marianas Trench volcanic cone, without so much as a bathing suit for protection.

Diluculo on June 11, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Seriously? This is all they’ve got? Sadly the LIVs will nod their heads and say yeah thats it.

neyney on June 11, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Sure is

Schadenfreude on June 11, 2014 at 6:50 PM

A spokesman for President Obama rushed to assure House Republicans that Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) didn’t actually lose because of his gestures toward Democrats on immigration reform.

“Cantor’s problem wasn’t his position on immigration reform, it was his lack of a position,” Obama advisor Dan Pfeiffer tweeted, citing the success of Senator Lindsay Graham (R., S.C.). “Graham wrote and passed a bill and is winning big.”
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Oh ya,…on that Position,

sure the h*ll,..wasn’t the Missionary Position, thats
for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on June 10, 2014 at 9:59 PM

canopfor on June 11, 2014 at 7:15 PM

McRINO’s ventriloquism dummy grahamnesty won because gop voters in SC are f-ing moron dumba$$es – just like those in KY who didn’t FLUSH self-serving establishment Repub-o-cRAT mcconnell.

MicahStone on June 11, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Cantor Places Onus of Immigration Rewrite on White House

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9jJZA96emw

Published on Feb 6, 2014
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The GOP talking point on why House Republicans will not move forward with an immigration overhaul this year has emerged: Republicans don’t trust President Barack Obama to implement a policy rewrite as intended.

The line was first delivered Thursday morning by Speaker John A. Boehner during his weekly press conference with reporters. “The American people, including many of my members, don’t trust that the reform that we’re talking about will be implemented as intended to be,” Boehner said.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor expanded upon that point Thursday afternoon with Minority Whip Steny H. Hoyer during their weekly colloquy.

Read the full story: http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/cantor-

canopfor on June 11, 2014 at 7:26 PM

They lost me at “White House said…”

Tard on June 11, 2014 at 7:53 PM

I will say living here in upper SC – Graham did not talk about Immigration Reform in the past couple months.

Not at all.

jake-the-goose on June 11, 2014 at 5:51 PM

The good ol’ Upstate really, really doesn’t like Graham. It would’ve been helpful if Lexington, Kershaw, Florence, and Sumter counties would’ve voted like the Upstate did. Oh, well. It’s unfortunate that the coastal counties were more concerned about deepening Charleston’s shipping lanes. Pandering works, and Graham is the ultimate Pander Bear.

SouthernGent on June 11, 2014 at 7:56 PM

The good ol’ Upstate really, really doesn’t like Graham. It would’ve been helpful if Lexington, Kershaw, Florence, and Sumter counties would’ve voted like the Upstate did. Oh, well. It’s unfortunate that the coastal counties were more concerned about deepening Charleston’s shipping lanes. Pandering works, and Graham is the ultimate Pander Bear.

SouthernGent on June 11, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Here is a fun factoid: Of the six challengers to Lindsey Graham, 6 of them reside in District 6 of South Carolina. District 6 has the only Democrat to the House of Representatives from South Carolina.

Joel_The_Oneth on June 11, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Then why didn’t any of your upstate brethren supply a viable candidate? All of your challengers were from one district.

Joel_The_Oneth on June 11, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Truth is life

Lies kill

Obama is a lie

Keep it simple

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 11, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Bids to replace Rep. Eric Cantor in House leadership
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Report: Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., is telling House members on floor he has half the GOP conference locked up for majority leader position, @jonward11 says
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https://twitter.com/jonward11

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Ryan Grim @ryangrim · 1m

Question is how much we should believe Kevin McCarthy’s whip count, given his track record of botching whip counts

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Justin Amash @repjustinamash · 12m

Secret ballot. Commitments mean 0. RT @costareports: McCarthy is moving FAST to wrap this up… Hensarling needs to make a decision soon…
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Jim Morrell @jimcmorrell · 15m

1st Rule of Ldrshp Race: Get in fast, or don’t run. MT”@costareports: Votes up for McCarthy – Hensarling/Sessions debate who should run.”
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Paul Kane @pkcapitol · 13m

@costareports Votes finish 12:30 pm Thurs for week, House won’t return until 6:30 pm Tues. Face-to-face time almost non-existent for races.
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Jon Ward @jonward11 · 3m

Knock on McCarthy is he can’t count votes. (https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/476894892170297344 …). But one GOPer said today: “he can count them better than Hensarling”

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Jon Ward @jonward11 · 6m

Am told McCarthy is telling members on floor he has half the GOP conference locked up

canopfor on June 11, 2014 at 9:27 PM

canopfor on June 11, 2014 at 9:29 PM

one race that nobody has written about, almost to the point of deliberately suppressing, is the OTHER SC Senator was in the primary as well, for the special election he will face.

And unlike Gramnacy, Sen Tim Scott is a true tea partier, and got 90,000 more votes than the senior, well financed Senator. On the same day.

Oh great wise men of politics, PLEASE tell me what that means?

gonnjos on June 11, 2014 at 9:58 PM

As a South Carolinian, the reason that Lindsey RINO Graham won is because people are just plain stupid. How can you expect different results when you keep doing the same thing over and over? I wanted him gone, but he has the uneducated voters of SC fooled. We need term limits so friggin bad.

F_This on June 11, 2014 at 9:59 PM

F U Lindsey…and all who support u…F.U!

OldWeaselKeeper on June 12, 2014 at 12:41 AM