Six members of Bergdahl’s unit agree: The prisoner swap shouldn’t have happened

posted at 1:01 pm on June 9, 2014 by Allahpundit

Part two of Megyn Kelly’s interview with Evan Buetow, Justin Gerleve, Cody Full, and three other men who served with Bergdahl before he disappeared. If you don’t have time for the whole clip, carve out eight minutes for the first half. To be clear, they’re not saying he should have been left behind; a life sentence as a Taliban prisoner, which may have included torture, is stiff punishment for any crime. Their objection is to the price. Having spent years defending themselves and local civilians from degenerates like the Taliban Five, go figure that they’re not eager to see them back in Afghanistan.

The Democratic nominee-in-waiting, who’s going to have to defend this stinkbomb of a trade to some greater or lesser extent for the next two years, naturally sees the issue more simply.

CLINTON: If you look at what the factors were going into the decision, of course there are competing interests and values. I mean, one of our values is, we bring everybody home off the battlefield the best we can. It doesn’t matter how they ended up in a prisoner of war situation

SAWYER: It doesn’t matter?

CLINTON: it does not matter – we bring our people home!

We’ll revisit that if and when the most explosive accusations against Bergdahl are borne out. Meanwhile, thanks to this NYT story, we’re creeping closer to “phase three” of the official Bergdahl counterspin. We’re not there yet; I think the White House and its defenders would generally rather not attack members of Bergdahl’s unit if they don’t have to, just because the politics of scrapping with veterans who stayed put and did their jobs honorably are so fraught. If these guys keep up their criticism of Bergdahl once he’s back home, though, I think they’ll decide they have no choice. Until then, the media can bide its time by whitewashing the Taliban Five.


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Psh. Psychopaths, all of them.

- Obama administration

Good Lt on June 9, 2014 at 1:03 PM

What a bunch of wackobirds/teabaggers.

– obama azz-dwellers

HumpBot Salvation on June 9, 2014 at 1:04 PM

“But…Faux News!”
- Ned Pajama Boy

22044 on June 9, 2014 at 1:05 PM

CLINTON: If you look at what the factors were going into the decision, of course there are competing interests and values. I mean, one of our values is, we bring everybody home off the battlefield the best we can. It doesn’t matter how they ended up in a prisoner of war situation

SAWYER: It doesn’t matter?

CLINTON: it does not matter – we bring our people home!

No comment from a Marine languishing in Mexican prison.

hawkeye54 on June 9, 2014 at 1:05 PM

CLINTON: If you look at what the factors were going into the decision, of course there are competing interests and values. I mean, one of our values is, we bring everybody home off the battlefield the best we can. It doesn’t matter how they ended up in a prisoner of war situation

SAWYER: It doesn’t matter?

CLINTON: it does not matter – we bring our people home!

I didn’t really expect Hillary to make “What difference does it make?” a campaign slogan. But here we are.

Bitter Clinger on June 9, 2014 at 1:05 PM

The next line of defense to excuse Berghdal is going to be that he was experiencing some sort of Stockholm syndrome / twisted reality due to mental instability, therefore it’s fine for him to have done whatever, and his fellow soldiers need to be more understanding of PTSD. In fact, the media will probably proclaim that these guys themselves are experiencing some form of mental anguish and PTSD from their experience that’s coloring the way they view Berghdal. Mark it down.

Tacitus on June 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM

The next line of defense to excuse Berghdal is going to be that he was experiencing some sort of Stockholm syndrome / twisted reality due to mental instability, therefore it’s fine for him to have done whatever, and his fellow soldiers need to be more understanding of PTSD. In fact, the media will probably proclaim that these guys themselves are experiencing some form of mental anguish and PTSD from their experience that’s coloring the way they view Berghdal. Mark it down.

They can try, but the guy was only there for 3 months? PTSD in 3 months.?…. Don’t think so…

sandee on June 9, 2014 at 1:10 PM

The media was a little slow on the draw this time, but it is now in full spin mode, trying to support Obama and discredit the veterans speaking out against bergdahl.

bw222 on June 9, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Let’s get one thing clear:

Those aren’t 5 prisoners those are 5 terrorists.

viking01 on June 9, 2014 at 1:12 PM

They appear pretty normal, the “psychopaths”.

The leftists always hate the military, except ahead of elections.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 1:12 PM

I’m not sure Obama can wish this one away. I saw a Major who was in charge of special operations on TV and he said within a few hours they knew he had left on his own and that he had left a note. He was in charge of moving all their assets to try and find Tali-Bowe. All information was given to him on secure communications…

sandee on June 9, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Not much seems to matter to Hiliary.

Steve Eggleston on June 9, 2014 at 1:13 PM

I wonder how they (Obama admin) will retaliate against these guys. I saw that the border guards leaking the photos of the illegal kids are being threatened with their jobs.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 1:14 PM

CLINTON: If you look at what the factors were going into the decision, of course there are competing interests and values. I mean, one of our values is, we bring everybody home off the battlefield the best we can. It doesn’t matter how they ended up in a prisoner of war situation

SAWYER: It doesn’t matter?

CLINTON: it does not matter – we bring our people home!

Superb ad against Hillary. NO, you witch, you didn’t even try to “bring our people home”.

obama and Hillary have lots of blood on their hands, and more to come.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM

http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Breitbart-TV/2014/06/09/har.jpg

(smirk) “I don’t know where they think they’re getting the information they’re saying.” (smirk)

Marcus on June 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM

The LA Times carried an article claiming the five terror leaders released were not dangerous because they are getting older.

In 1945 Ike was 55 (and having an affair in addition to leading the troops), Patton was 60, MacArthur and Marshall were 65.

bw222 on June 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM

The Bergdhal swap was just cover for Obama to commit treason by releasing enemy generals back onto the battlefield and giving them millions of dollars so that they could continue fight in Afghanistan.

oscarwilde on June 9, 2014 at 1:17 PM

The LA Times carried an article claiming the five terror leaders released were not dangerous because they are getting older.

And they no longer have any useful information to give us… I guess they think this means they are gonna retire to a little homestead and grow tomatoes or something…

sandee on June 9, 2014 at 1:19 PM

The LA Times carried an article claiming the five terror leaders released were not dangerous because they are getting older.

In 1945 Ike was 55 (and having an affair in addition to leading the troops), Patton was 60, MacArthur and Marshall were 65.

bw222 on June 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM

The T5 range in age from 43 to 47.

Obama is 52.

Conclusion….the T5 has many years of terror left….

Electrongod on June 9, 2014 at 1:20 PM

I’m interested to hear from the other members of Bergdahl’s unit. You know full well that the administration/media is trying as hard as they can to find someone, anyone, from that unit to defend Bergdahl and muddy the waters.

LukeinNE on June 9, 2014 at 1:20 PM

The LA Times carried an article claiming the five terror leaders released were not dangerous because they are getting older.

In 1945 Ike was 55 (and having an affair in addition to leading the troops), Patton was 60, MacArthur and Marshall were 65.

bw222 on June 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Meh, 55 is the new 35 and 60, the new 40. But aren’t these guys just going to be directing the youngsters as did the generals you mention, and not likely to be on the front lines themselves?

hawkeye54 on June 9, 2014 at 1:20 PM

CLINTON: If you look at what the factors were going into the decision, of course there are competing interests and values. I mean, one of our values is, we bring everybody home off the battlefield the best we can. It doesn’t matter how they ended up in a prisoner of war situation

Which in itself is fine. But you do not then hold a Rose Garden ceremony to announce it with dad giving an Islamic blessing, and then sending your ventriloquist dummy back to the Sunday talk shows to announce he served with honor & distinction. And to do that a few days before the 70th anniversary of D-Day, when thousand made the ultimate sacrifice.

Just send your spokesfool out to say you’ve made a crappy deal to bring back someone who has questions to answer, and you’re only doing it because he is an American.

rbj on June 9, 2014 at 1:21 PM

I’m interested to hear from the other members of Bergdahl’s unit. You know full well that the administration/media is trying as hard as they can to find someone, anyone, from that unit to defend Bergdahl and muddy the waters.

LukeinNE on June 9, 2014 at 1:20 PM

I fully expect this..

sandee on June 9, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Thanks, Barack & Hillary! The Taliban Now Has Modern U.S. Stinger Missiles!

Resist We Much on June 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Meh, just their method of dealing with weapons inequality. It isn’t fair for us to keep all the shiny new stuff for ourselves.

hawkeye54 on June 9, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Why does the one guy look like the Taliban?

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 1:24 PM

The LA Times carried an article claiming the five terror leaders released were not dangerous because they are getting older.

And they no longer have any useful information to give us… I guess they think this means they are gonna retire to a little homestead and grow tomatoes or something…

sandee on June 9, 2014 at 1:19 PM

They seem to be forgetting that their darling Hillary is old enough to be their mother.

VorDaj on June 9, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Seems they’ve tried everything. He was “troubled.” His unit was lax in security. His fellow Soldiers are psychopaths… His Parents are getting death threats. And he was tortured…. Not working as planned.

It sort of dropped off the radar now so they can cover the “tea bagger” white supremacists that killed the Cops in Nevada…. Gadsden flag and all…

sandee on June 9, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Obama’s Bergdahl Debacle

In the town of Pocatello, Idaho, last Tuesday, Jason Carey stood waving a yellow sign that read: “BOWE IS NOT AS HERO. He Deserted America.” It struck a chord. “People were honking their horns, giving me the thumbs-up,” Carey said. “I only had one guy giving me the middle finger.”

Until last weekend Carey, a burly, goateed veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, had been a staunch supporter of Bowe Bergdahl. He gave money to the “Bring Bowe home” campaign. “He was included in my prayers every night.”

His first reaction to Bergdahl’s release after nearly five years in captivity was that of many Americans: “Hell, yeah — Bowe’s coming back.”

But within hours, soldiers who had served with Bergdahl were dismissing any notion that he was an all-American hero. They recounted how Bergdahl, then a 23-year-old private, had finished his guard shift at Outpost Mest, a remote base in Paktika province, southeastern Afghanistan, and simply slipped away into the night.

In a final email to his father, published in Roling Stone, he had said: “I am ashamed to be an American. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools.”

Carey made a YouTube video of himself burning his Bergdahl POW-MIA (missing in action) T-shirt and telling the freed soldier: “You better pray to Allah I don’t catch you on the streets of Idaho, punk.” A photograph of him with his sign went viral after being posted on a “Bowe Bergdahl is a Traitor” Facebook page.

He was particularly incensed that Bergdahl was automatically promoted to sergeant during his captivity: “I had to work to get my sergeant’s rank. All he did was sit in a cave and chill out with his Taliban buddies.”

Carey’s change of heart reflected a sharp swing in public opinion last week against President Barack Obama’s decision to secure Bergdahl’s release in exchange for five Taliban leaders who had each spent well over a decade in Guantanamo Bay prison. US intelligence judged them almost certain to “return to the fight” against America.

On a balmy evening last Saturday Obama had walked into the White House rose garden, holding hands with Bergdahl’s beaming mother Jani, apparently expecting a surge of patriotic gratitude that America’s last military captive in Afghanistan had been returned.

“We’re committed to winding down the war in Afghanistan and we are committed to closing Gitmo,” he said, using the military abbreviation for Guantanamo Bay. “But we also made an ironclad commitment to bring our prisoners of war home.”

Standing beside him with Jani was Bergdahl’s father Bob, sporting a ponytail and a long, Afghan-style beard. Obama grinned as Bob broke into Pashto, using words from the Koran — “In the name of Allah the most gracious and most merciful” — to address his son.

The president then kissed and hugged Jani before going back into the White House with his arms around the couple, who were said to be in Washington, 2,300 miles from their Idaho home, by chance. It was a ceremony so schmaltzy it might have been sponsored by Hallmark.

Television clips of Bob speaking Pashto at the White House, followed by the disclosure that Obama had not told Congress about the release of the Guantanamo prisoners, as he was required by law to do, fuelled a political firestorm.

Far from being a tale of sacrifice reminiscent of Saving Private Ryan, Bergdahl’s story was compared to the television series Homeland, in which Sergeant Nicholas Brody converts to Islam in captivity and emerges as an al-Qaeda operative. Was Bergdahl a naive young man overwhelmed by the experience of war or was he more conspirator than captive?

As for Obama, what consequences will his misjudgment of America’s mood have for his plans to end the war in Afghanistan and close Guantanamo?

Resist We Much on June 9, 2014 at 1:31 PM

I watched the entire video. I was very impressed by all 6 of them. Gives me hope for the US.

gh on June 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM

These guys don’t get to make that call. If they wanted to make that call, they’d better themselves and become President or General.

antisense on June 9, 2014 at 1:39 PM

These guys don’t get to make that call. If they wanted to make that call, they’d better themselves and become President or General.

antisense on June 9, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Ok, who forgot to flush the toilet?

oscarwilde on June 9, 2014 at 1:40 PM

CLINTON: it does not matter – we bring our people home!

even if they are in caskets on a direct flight from Benghazi—RIGHT HILLS?

hillsoftx on June 9, 2014 at 1:42 PM

These guys don’t get to make that call. If they wanted to make that call, they’d better themselves and become President or General.

antisense on June 9, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Oh, lookie! One of the Blabbering, Bloody Bowe-rons 4 Bergdahl is back!

Resist We Much on June 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM

It sort of dropped off the radar now so they can cover the “tea bagger” white supremacists that killed the Cops in Nevada…. Gadsden flag and all…

sandee on June 9, 2014 at 1:24 PM

I can see what they’ll say: “In what must be the most white trash mass shooting in history, two Patriot Movement white supremacists ambushed and shot two police officers in CiCi’s pizza, before taking their weapons and invading a Wal-Mart. Surprisingly, Wal-Mart not being a gun-free zone did not prevent the pair from killing an innocent bystander. The incident concluded when the woman shot her male accomplice in the head before turning the gun on herself. People who lived in the apartment complex say they talked of defending Liberty and bragged about being at Clive Bundy’s ranch. Film at 11.”

Dastardly media.

antisense on June 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM

People who lived in the apartment complex say they talked of defending Liberty and bragged about being at Clive Bundy’s ranch. Film at 11.”

Dastardly media.

Good try. They were thrown off of Bundys ranch because they were S “skin head” types. You know OWS’ers..

sandee on June 9, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Dems love scraping with veterans; those who served and those serving now.

It starts with “baby-killer” accusations, and spitting on returning vets coming home from Vietnam. It continues with military down-sizing, shutting down veteran memorials (unless illegal, then esta abierto), challenging or mostly dismissing their votes, altering and/or distorting thus compromising their ROE, increased negligence in the VA, embracing our enemies, failing to assist them when defending an insecure compound, and white-washing those who dare challenge the progressive narrative.

The Dem/Proglodyte feels their service is not needed, because they’re trained, heartless killers with limited to no education according to our current SOS.
However if their their body count can be exploited: then these gentle, intelligent and largely pacifistic soldiers died due to some misguided imperialistic pursuit. They now become useful to the Prog and their cause(s).

Their absolute disdain and disgust for our military has been progressively working for them up to this day – why change what seemingly works?

StubbornGreenBurros on June 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM

The LA Times carried an article claiming the five terror leaders released were not dangerous because they are getting older.

bw222 on June 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM

The T5 range in age from 43 to 47.

Electrongod

Osama bin Laden was 44 when 9/11 happened. So yeah, clearly these guys are too old.

xblade on June 9, 2014 at 2:24 PM

I watched the entire video. I was very impressed by all 6 of them. Gives me hope for the US.

gh on June 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM

But where are the officers in their chain of command? All hiding under their beds or busy getting their noses even browner?

VorDaj on June 9, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Here’s a question for you just on the merit of the act: If these six members of the military had decided to release these five members of the Taliban from a jail in Afghanistan in return for the release of Bergdahl would President Obama have approved of it and rewarded them with a WH visit to clap them on the back for their initiative?

If not these members, then how about six anonymous soldiers at Guantanamo if they arranged to send them to Qatar?

If not these anonymous soldiers, how about the Joint Chiefs of staff if they arranged things with Qatar to be jurisdictionally responsible for them, all under Obama’s radar? Do you think Obama would approve of it then?

Dusty on June 9, 2014 at 3:19 PM

CLINTON: If you look at what the factors were going into the decision, of course there are competing interests and values. I mean, one of our values is, we bring everybody home off the battlefield the best we can. It doesn’t matter how they ended up in a prisoner of war situation

SAWYER: It doesn’t matter?

CLINTON: it does not matter – we bring our people home!

Wow, how do you think this interview would have gone if GWB had made this kind of swap?

The term ‘dereliction of duty’ and ‘deserter’ would no doubt have figured prominently, as well as ‘bad deal’ for swapping 5 high-value enemy prisoners for one soldier who was captured due to his abandoning his post.

Not to say he should have been left to rot, but a decent negotiator should have been able to get a decent deal that doesn’t make the US look like morons.

s1im on June 9, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Geez, I hope the Administration doesn’t retaliate against these men by, oh, I don’t know, giving them really really crappy health care through the VA, making them wait in line behind 57,000 others who are waiting, and then deleting their names from the waiting list to make the VA’s records look better.

Basically I’m saying D.C. now stands for “doesn’t care”

Lance Corvette on June 9, 2014 at 4:57 PM

The LA Times carried an article claiming the five terror leaders released were not dangerous because they are getting older.

In 1945 Ike was 55 (and having an affair in addition to leading the troops), Patton was 60, MacArthur and Marshall were 65.

bw222 on June 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM

The T5 range in age from 43 to 47.

Obama is 52.

Conclusion….the T5 has many years of terror left….

Electrongod on June 9, 2014 at 1:20 PM

We have seen how dangerous Barry is at 52, so…

slickwillie2001 on June 9, 2014 at 4:58 PM

CLINTON: it does not matter – we bring our people home!

even if they are in caskets on a direct flight from Benghazi—RIGHT HILLS?

hillsoftx on June 9, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Amb. Stevens and others agree.

Why does the one guy look like the Taliban?

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 1:24 PM

He told Jake Tapper that he’d shaved every day for 9 years while in the Army – and was sick of it.

…But you do not then hold a Rose Garden ceremony to announce it with dad giving an Islamic blessing, and then sending your ventriloquist dummy back to the Sunday talk shows to announce he served with honor & distinction. And to do that a few days before the 70th anniversary of D-Day, when thousand made the ultimate sacrifice.

Just send your spokesfool out to say you’ve made a crappy deal to bring back someone who has questions to answer, and you’re only doing it because he is an American.

rbj on June 9, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Perfect on so many levels.

Hill60 on June 9, 2014 at 5:36 PM

It doesn’t matter how they ended up in a prisoner of war situation

Exit question: Does Hillary! actually believe her own BULLSHIT?

GarandFan on June 9, 2014 at 5:46 PM