GOP establishment seeking revenge against Ted Cruz?

posted at 11:31 am on June 9, 2014 by Allahpundit

The question mark’s in the headline not because I doubt they’d like to take revenge but because I doubt they have the stones to do it.

Cruz hasn’t campaigned or raised money for GOP challengers, but he has forced a series of uncomfortable votes — the most prominent one being a debt-ceiling bill in February — that put imperiled incumbents on the spot. “After already forcing a strategic blunder on the conference, he stood up, looked his Republican colleagues in their eyes and said he wouldn’t work against them in the primaries.” says Kyle Downey, a former GOP Senate leadership aide. “Then he broke his word. Breaking your word, or lying, has consequences in the Senate, both seen and unseen. When it comes to the currency of relationships, he’s running up big debts.”

Not that Cruz needs much help. He remains enormously popular with a small but vocal part of the base. That has given him a powerful grassroots-fundraising platform. Even though he’s not up for re-election for another four years, Cruz has raised $1.8 million so far this cycle, $1.5 million of it coming from individual donations. He’ll need this kind of support and much more if he decides to run for President in 2016. By all accounts, Cruz’s push to shut down the government did not play well with business and corporate donors. “He’s the last person Wall Street would give money to,” says a big Republican donor. “They’re more interested in a Chris Christie or Jeb Bush. Even Rand Paul would be a preferable alternative to Cruz. How [Cruz] is going to run for President without big donors is beyond me.”…

“He’ll likely be a Jesse Helms, one of the lone conservative Senators who says outspoken and crazy things,” says a former GOP Senate leadership aide. “He’ll largely be marginalized.” Helms, who relished the title “Senator No,” was best known for his 16-day filibuster of a resolution declaring a public federal holiday for Martin Luther King Jr. “Like with Helms, there’ll be a certain amount of appeasement,” the Senate aide says. “But it’s like Star Wars: you don’t want to give in to the Dark Side.”

“If Cruz votes against McConnell and decides he’s not going to be caucusing with Republicans, kicking him off all his committees is an obvious move,” said GOP Hill aide John Feehery, who was last seen whining that Chris McDaniel’s strong primary showing would end up costing Mississippi lots of tasty federal pork. All of the above fits the basic fact pattern of the last nine months: The shutdown was the last straw for establishment Republicans and the business class that pays their rent, so now they’re going around clubbing tea partiers in the primaries as a warning to the sympathizers who are already in Congress. (McDaniel is the lone exception and he had lots of help from Thad Cochran’s listless campaigning.) This is all building, I think, towards a concerted push in 2016 to unseat Mike Lee, who helped lead the “defund” effort that led to the shutdown and whose defeat would be a symbolic triumph for the establishment. It was Lee, after all, who became the first tea-party challenger to beat a GOP incumbent. Replacing him with another establishmentarian would feel like an unwinding of the tea-party movement.

They can’t do that to Cruz, though. There’s a strong Republican establishment in Utah; in Texas, the Republican establishment is all but dead. Cruz naturally crushed the field in the Texas GOP’s presidential straw poll this weekend, held at the same convention where the party repealed its former pro-guest-worker agenda on immigration. Unless/until demographics shift to the point where Latinos are making the state competitive again, Cruz will hold the seat for as long as he wants it. The only establishment remedy, then, is to isolate him in Congress, which brings me back to the point up top. Do they dare? He’s no ordinary tea partier. He’s the face of the movement now. Strip him of his assignments and it’ll be seen, I think, as a more provocative bit of aggression against grassroots conservatives than the big anti-tea-party effort in the primaries this year was. And the more straw polls he wins — the one in Texas wasn’t the first — the harder it gets for McConnell et al. to banish him. In fact, I wonder if that’s not the real reason why Cruz might run for president in 2016. He’s a long shot in the primaries, notwithstanding the conservative enthusiasm for him; he’ll have no money from the donor class and, in most polls I’ve seen, his favorable numbers even among Republicans are no better than some of his competition. He’s a wild card because there’s a chance he’ll build a movement on the stump through the strength of his oratory, but in all likelihood his best showing is squashing Rand Paul on the right and then coming up short against the establishment champion. But that’s okay: As I say, maybe the real reason to run in 2016 is to flex his (and, by extension, the tea party’s) muscles nationally. If he does well, the Beltway GOP will think twice about crossing him in the foreseeable future. He might singlehandedly secure his, and the movement’s, claim to a share of power in Congress.

Fearless prediction: If we end up with a Republican president in 2017 (who, I’m assuming, won’t be Cruz), establishment Republicans will suddenly become warm to the idea of putting Cruz on the Supreme Court. That’s their best bet to get rid of him, and it has the virtue of earning them a little cred with conservative voters. Some Senate Democrats would resist, but presidential appointees drawn from Congress tend to get the collegial benefit of the doubt in confirmation hearings. Cruz, who’s seen as being not so collegial, wouldn’t get as much benefit, but between the fact that his professional record is clean and Democrats want to get him out of the Senate too, he might very well make it to 60. Much depends on what happens in Senate elections this year and 2016.


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How nice. They have nothing better to do I suppose. Not like someone else is taking a blowtorch to the nation or anything.

JellyToast on June 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM

No surprise – they won’t go to war with the Democrats, but wont blink an eye in going to war with the base of their own party.

Midas on June 9, 2014 at 11:34 AM

In a way the democrats aren’t the problem…it’s the establishment(stupid)!

b1jetmech on June 9, 2014 at 11:35 AM

“He’ll likely be a Jesse Helms, one of the lone conservative Senators who says outspoken and crazy things,” says a former GOP Senate leadership aide. “He’ll largely be marginalized.”

If Cruz is anywhere near the real deal the only marginalizing will be of the GOP if they stomp on the man.

Bishop on June 9, 2014 at 11:35 AM

I hate the establishment GOP so much.

Jim-Rose on June 9, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Yeah.. He could take over for Scalia. That is a win-win for all involved.

Illinidiva on June 9, 2014 at 11:36 AM

I shouldn’t have read “tasty federal pork” before EST lunch.

cbenoistd on June 9, 2014 at 11:37 AM

And my concern with Daniels is his neo-Confederate ties not the pork thing. That is all the Republican party needs is a Southern Senator with a longing for the Confederacy and the Old South.

Illinidiva on June 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

This should be fun. :-)

tommy71 on June 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Bring it on!

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

It’s ‘Time Magazine’ people – not exactly an objective source of information.

This is BS

jake-the-goose on June 9, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Ted Cruz Country

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Meanwhile Hillary “schtruggles”.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 11:40 AM

So they get Cruz out of the Senate. Then what? Texas is just as liable to put up another staunch conservative (hmmm. Perry? AG Greg Abbott? Dan Patrick?), and the GOPe is no better off than they were before.

As much as I’d love to see Cruz on the SCOTUS, I don’t see how doing so would net the GOPe any benefit, other than as a “warning” (if being nominated to the SCOTUS can even be called such) to others.

Mohonri on June 9, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Ted Cruz threatens the GOPe’s money train, he must be stopped at all costs. By all costs, I mean ALL COSTS. Boehner wants his amnesty, he will do anything he needs to get it. Cruz is in the way. Cruz thinks that the United States Constitution still is, and still should be the supreme law of the land, this does not fit in with the agenda of the GOPe.

oscarwilde on June 9, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Fearless prediction: If we end up with a Republican president in 2017 (who, I’m assuming, won’t be Cruz), establishment Republicans will suddenly become warm to the idea of putting Cruz on the Supreme Court. That’s their best bet to get rid of him, and it has the virtue of earning them a little cred with conservative voters. Some Senate Democrats would resist, but presidential appointees drawn from Congress tend to get the collegial benefit of the doubt in confirmation hearings. Cruz, who’s seen as being not so collegial, wouldn’t get as much benefit, but between the fact that his professional record is clean and Democrats want to get him out of the Senate too, he might very well make it to 60. Much depends on what happens in Senate elections this year and 2016.

Keeper in the “HA classics” folder

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Well, Bless their Hearts….Go for it Sh*tbags…

He’ll give you a good Azz beating…..

..then turn you over to Palin, who’ll do the same….

ToddPA on June 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Hmmm, I’ve been against him running in 2016, along with any other new senators. Lessons learned from eight years of the current dumb ass. AP, I think you are smarter than the average politician in D.C. (what kind of compliment is that), I’m not sure they care about how they are viewed by the great unwashed. SCOTUS is interesting. Hard not to like that.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Progressives, wherever they are, are the problem.

faraway on June 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Cruz on the Supreme Court would be awesome.

GOPRanknFile on June 9, 2014 at 11:44 AM

I do not want to go third party. I simply want to go second party.

rbj on June 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Imagine how incredibly impertinent the GOPe is, just like obama and his D-latrine rats.

Both have forgotten who pays for them, whom they’re supposed to represent and serve.

I so hope you both get yours, and you will. I loathe the GOPe way more than obama and his rats. The latter are at least sincere in their thuggery. The former lie to you, to get elected, and then they enable or are the same latrine rats.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Cruz on the Supreme Court would be awesome.

GOPRanknFile on June 9, 2014 at 11:44 AM

That is an idea that only a beta male metrosexual could love.

oscarwilde on June 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM

This is why we need an Article V CoS. Power must be stripped from DC not just to defeat the collectivist Left but also to defeat the crony capitalists who feed off the system and fund the Establishment.

Charlemagne on June 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM

This is a replay of what the “establishment” tried to do to Reagan.
Two landslides later and pulling an economy from the brink – Reagan was one of the greatest Presidents
ever……

You have to look at what Ted has been doing lately to understand that the man is a genius and does not fear the “establishment”…..

Ted will be able to raise as much money as he needs without the “establishment” power brokers.

redguy on June 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM

I hate the establishment GOP so much.

Jim-Rose on June 9, 2014 at 11:35 AM

I hate to say it.. but Obama and the Democrats would be fools to not take advantage of these Republicans. We have no opposition in the GOP leadership.

I think it was Churchill who said about the British fighters of WWII… “Never has so much been owed to so few.”

As for the Republican establishment.. you can say “Never has so much been given away by so few.”

JellyToast on June 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM

God Bless Texas.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Cruz on the Supreme Court?

A wise Latino, to balance out the wise Latina?

portlandon on June 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Cruz on the Supreme Court would be awesome.

GOPRanknFile on June 9, 2014 at 11:44 AM

That is an idea that only a beta male metrosexual could love.

oscarwilde on June 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Yeah, control of a Supreme Court in a dictatorship would be nothing.

redguy on June 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Well the inside crowd of Wall Street, Chamber of Commerce etal are for sure good at picking ways to lose.

McCain, Romney,

Now they go for a Bush who came in with 1% of the Texas R’s at their convention last week, the fat frat boy Christie did even worse with less than 1%.

Heck even Rick Perry came in under Dr. Ben Carson.

Now Texas conservatives are going to suprise the commies and the R elite as we try to put a freshman State Rep. in as Speaker of the Texas House to get rid of the RINO Strauss who uses Democrats to get elected Speaker.

Scott Turner,, x Washington Red Skins def. back, preacher, member of the huge Preston Wood Baptist Church in Plano Texas and a real smart, black guy who is very much like Ted Cruz. He to is not afraid of these piss ant RINO’s who slink around in the dark with the commie Democrats for pork and 30 little silver trinkets.

Just vote out the RINO’s is the only solution.

No Amnesty and Scott Turner gets that as the illegals are forceing wages down on all blacks and for sure young blacks.

fight, no not back down to the cult of money.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM

It’s ‘Time Magazine’ people – not exactly an objective source of information.

This is BS

jake-the-goose on June 9, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Yeah, the socialists rags will be lying until they are out of business…..

Ted Cruz is the one…..if my enemies fear him the most – then that is who I am supporting.

redguy on June 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Ted will be able to raise as much money as he needs without the “establishment” power brokers.

redguy on June 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM

I’ll give as much as I can.

VegasRick on June 9, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Of course they are. They hate everything that is not them. Everything that is “other”. Ted Cruz is one of The Others.

Texas Zombie on June 9, 2014 at 11:50 AM

And my concern with Daniels is his neo-Confederate ties not the pork thing. That is all the Republican party needs is a Southern Senator with a longing for the Confederacy and the Old South.

Illinidiva on June 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Ummm… what?

He doesn’t have neo-confederate ties.

dforston on June 9, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Funny how the trolls are not out but the DIABLOs are.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

That is an idea that only a beta male metrosexual could love.

oscarwilde on June 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Yeah, having him on the Supreme Court wouldn’t be as awesome as having him in the Senate, where people keep distancing themselves from the Tea Party. Latest example being Ron Johnson.

Cruz is a brilliant legal scholar. He would be an asset on the Supreme Court.

GOPRanknFile on June 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Illinidiva on June 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

We Mississippians appreciate your concern.

Clean up Chicago, first.

We’re doin’ just fine.

Vichy Republicans are threatened by the honesty of Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Sarah Palin.

kingsjester on June 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Latest example being Ron Johnson.

GOPRanknFile on June 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Another beta male metrosexual you can love…

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Illinidiva on June 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Who’s Daniels?

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Ted Cruz is the one…..if my enemies fear him the most – then that is who I am supporting.

redguy on June 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM

There is no denying the passion Cruz supporters have. It’s awesome.

jake-the-goose on June 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Chris McDaniel, whose in a run-off with old RINO Thad Cochran for his MS Senate Seat

kingsjester on June 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

ps

By the by, Rick Perry lovers, where is he as the Texas border is over run by thousand up on thousands of illegal children sent by Obama to over run the state. He is hiding under his desk it seems.

They bus thousands across Texas now “by illegal means” into Az, Ok, and soon La. as these states have stood up to King Obama.

Perry can not even get voters in Texas to back him, little chance any one else will do so.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM

But no one received a reception quite like the one enjoyed by the junior senator from Texas.

“I’m certainly encouraged by the enthusiasm and the support,” Cruz said as he walked through the convention hall, hugging, shaking hands and posing for pictures at practically every step.

“The men and women here are why I’m in the U.S. Senate…it was the men and women here at this convention, tens of thousand of grassroots activists, of Republican women and tea party leaders and business leaders and Hispanics and young people who stood up and said, ‘We’ve got to change the direction this country is going in.’”

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Let’s hear some common sense from a Conservative American Leader, shall we?

[Senator Ted] Cruz (R-TX) said of the skyrocketing number of children crossers, “When I was down at the border, Border Patrol agents were telling me with horror that roughly 10 percent of apprehended people were unaccompanied minors.”

He continued, “The people who are bringing men, women, and children in illegally are not pleasant, happy, placid coyotes. These are criminal cartels. These are ruthless, brutal, nasty criminals. The idea that you have parents handing their teenage daughter or son over to a global criminal cartel is a humanitarian crisis. Untold numbers of these teens are facing assault, are facing a life of hell being turned over to drug kingpins.”

“It is a direct consequence of the presidents illegal actions,” he said. “The parents think, ‘If I send my child [to the U.S.], my child will have amnesty.’ That’s what the president of the U.S. has said. It is the exact opposite of a humane approach to immigration or to securing our borders.”

Ultimately, Cruz said there are many areas where the left and right can find common ground.

“There is overwhelming bipartisan support outside of Washington that we need to finally secure our borders, enforce our laws, and stop the problem of illegal immigration,” he concluded. “But that’s not going to happen as long as the president is ordering Border Patrol officers not to enforce the law.”

kingsjester on June 9, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Let’s keep all senators from running for office
because of one horses ass ?
I’d rather keep the field wide open . Truly smart
people surround themselves competent individuals .
Egocentric jerks choose thugs and incompetents .
Honesty also counts , a trait that’s missing in the
current administration . Oh , and leadership !
I won’t allow o to limit my choices and I really
want to see this play out without restrictions .
So……..GO TED !

Lucano on June 9, 2014 at 12:00 PM

kingsjester on June 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

I figured that’s who she meant but I was being a pain in the butt.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Illinidiva on June 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Emmanuel or Preckwinkle?

Fallon on June 9, 2014 at 12:01 PM

And my concern with Daniels is his neo-Confederate ties not the pork thing. That is all the Republican party needs is a Southern Senator with a longing for the Confederacy and the Old South.
Illinidiva on June 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Leave it to GOPe operatives to spread unfounded rumors. Good luck on your fight to preserve Obamacare

Brock Robamney on June 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM

I figured that’s who she meant but I was being a pain in the butt.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:01 PM

lol..I knew you were.

bazil9 on June 9, 2014 at 12:03 PM

“He remains enormously popular with a small but vocal part of the base.”

We shall see just how “small” that “vocal” part of the base actually is. I have a feeling that it’s larger than you think and growing.

ncjetsfan on June 9, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Brock Robamney on June 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM

I call them the Dale Carnegie Branch, subtle are they not?

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Yeah, having him on the Supreme Court wouldn’t be as awesome as having him in the Senate, where people keep distancing themselves from the Tea Party.

GOPRanknFile on June 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Nope, having on the SC would top any position in the Senate – especially if he were that 5th vote we’re always in danger of losing.

rhombus on June 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:01 PM

You could never be a pain in the butt, ma’am…except to trolls.

kingsjester on June 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

“He’ll likely be a Jesse Helms, one of the lone conservative Senators who says outspoken and crazy things,” says a former GOP Senate leadership aide. “He’ll largely be marginalized.”

If Cruz is anywhere near the real deal the only marginalizing will be of the GOP if they stomp on the man.

Bishop on June 9, 2014 at 11:35 AM

DITTO, what Bishop wrote ^^.

And, to add more, this…

“He’ll likely be a Jesse Helms, one of the lone conservative Senators who says outspoken and crazy things,” says a former GOP Senate leadership aide. “He’ll largely be marginalized.”

…is just wasted nothingness. It’s not necessary, it’s ugly, it’s destructive and ridiculing of the very people who that “former GOP Senate leadership aide” expects to assist him and his (or her and hers).

Did that “aid” work for Jeb Bush?

Lourdes on June 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Sure there’s a rivalry, but this “article” is nothing but a thinly disguised hit piece against Ted Cruz.

JannyMae on June 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM

I was told repeatedly by various GOP apologists on this site that there is no such thing as a GOP establishment.

What gives?

Monkeytoe on June 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Monkeytoe on June 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM

LOL!

kingsjester on June 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM

some Senate Democrats would resist, but presidential appointees drawn from Congress tend to get the collegial benefit of the doubt in confirmation hearings

Defense Secretary Tower would disagree. The left-wing base would absolutely set their hair on fire over a Cruz Supreme Court nomination and not a single Democrat would vote for cloture.

motionview on June 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Lucano on June 9, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Forgot ‘ integrity ‘ .

Lucano on June 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM

“If Cruz votes against McConnell and decides he’s not going to be caucusing with Republicans, kicking him off all his committees is an obvious move,” said GOP Hill aide John Feehery, who was last seen whining that Chris McDaniel’s strong primary showing would end up costing Mississippi lots of tasty federal pork.

It’s losers like this that make Allison Grimes such an attractive option

Brock Robamney on June 9, 2014 at 12:07 PM

It’s ‘Time Magazine’ people – not exactly an objective source of information.

This is BS

jake-the-goose on June 9, 2014 at 11:39 AM

I’d like to second or third that opinion… but you know what Time does very well?Find and exploit GOP rifts. I’m not saying those rifts aren’t there, but consider who wants them opened wider. Why help?

rhombus on June 9, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Breaking your word, or lying, has consequences in the Senate

I got that far, laughed and quit reading.

Aplombed on June 9, 2014 at 12:09 PM

kingsjester on June 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

I’m pretty excited about your run off, are you feeling pretty confident? Should I send money?

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:09 PM

rhombus on June 9, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Bingo

I suspect the GOP will come together at a later time – get around our nominee and work hard to win the WH.

jake-the-goose on June 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Nope, having on the SC would top any position in the Senate – especially if he were that 5th vote we’re always in danger of losing.

rhombus on June 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Yup! Thank you. Glad there are some sensible people in here. If you didn’t realize, I was being sarcastic in my statement that you quoted.

GOPRanknFile on June 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Ted Cruz is one of the very few in Congress who is making any sense. Apparently, that’s a huge threat to the GOP of today, at least to this “former GOP Senate aide” speaking in such a ghastly fashion about Cruz.

Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy, Jeff Sessions, those three are the ones in the GOP who ARE making sense. The GOP better wake up and smell the coffee because the Jeb-Graham-McCain-Cantor-wing isn’t at all well liked and supported, or supportable.

Lourdes on June 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Then he broke his word. Breaking your word, or lying, has consequences in the Senate,

These political hacks are a disgrace. They are the ones doing all the lying. How about Rubio and Ayotte breaking their words on amnesty?

Wigglesworth on June 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Cruz is a brilliant legal scholar. He would be an asset on the Supreme Court.

GOPRanknFile on June 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Hmmmm…hadn’t thought of that but it has strong appeal now that you mention it. Cruz is important in the Senate but, wow, on the SC, that’d be something.

Lourdes on June 9, 2014 at 12:16 PM

I suspect the GOP will come together at a later time – get around our nominee and work hard to win the WH.

jake-the-goose on June 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

I think it truly matters who it is. I’m not voting for Christie or Jeb. And I like Jeb.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM

So glad the GOP leadership is encouraging a “big-tent” approach…

/s

cs89 on June 9, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:09 PM

If is looking pretty God. The GOP is spending beau coup money and airing dirty campaign ads, trying to stop McDaniel’s momentum.

However, just as we proved when we instituted student-led school prayer, after those idiots from the FFRF came down, we don’t tolerate garbage very well.

The momentum is still with McDaniels.

kingsjester on June 9, 2014 at 12:18 PM

” pretty Good” and pretty God (subconsciousness taking over.

kingsjester on June 9, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Do not back down to RINO’s or commie Democrats.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM

I tend not to be a RINO, Establishment, or TruCon, but much more in the libertarian conservative camp and I see this food fight from a different perspective.

First there is no such thing as a RINO, Establishment, or TruCon, just varying degrees of conservatism within each camp (yes, even some TruCon’s like big government when it suits them). What I care about first and foremost is stopping Obama and his big government ways, so getting someone with a “R” besides their name is the most important thing we should worry about.

Tater Salad on June 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM

kingsjester on June 9, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Both work.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Hmmm, I’ve been against him running in 2016, along with any other new senators. Lessons learned from eight years of the current dumb ass.

Cindy Munford

It boggles the mind that people still insist on making this argument. Obama isn’t a bad president because he was just a new senator when he was elected.

xblade on June 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM

We voted for Perry. Governors should run for president-not senators.
Cruz for senate majority leader.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Palin and Cruz are reviled by the GOPe because they oppose crony capitalism and they still believe in the constitution. I love how the establishment spends millions to smear another republican but want to make friends with the democrats. When are people going to realize the at the GOPe and the Dems are one in the same? Thank God for Cruz and Palin and Lee. They are the few who speak for us. We must support them.

fight like a girl on June 9, 2014 at 12:25 PM

presidential appointees drawn from Congress tend to get the collegial benefit of the doubt in confirmation hearings

Unless that president is a Republican. I direct your attention to the Senate SCOTUS votes these last 28 years.

Physics Geek on June 9, 2014 at 12:28 PM

because I doubt they have the stones to do it.

I suppose there is some wisdom in this. If they had any stones, the GOP establishment would have whacked Obama and crew a long time ago and Cruz would be an non-issue and may not have even made it to the Senate.

But craven cowards tend to have the ability to turn on one of their own who is showing how cowardly they are. Sort of a kill-the-messenger denial strategy.

Cruz needs to watch his back and just keep pushing. The American people will get behind him if he is true to his calling.

bartbeast on June 9, 2014 at 12:34 PM

xblade on June 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM

That’s fine, I want someone who has had some executive experience. I realize that this just the beginning of Obama’s problems but it sure didn’t help.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:34 PM

The minute Ted goes up against one of these establishment numbskulls and smokes him like a sausage you will start to see momentum. That is why they can’t stand him.

neyney on June 9, 2014 at 12:35 PM

“If Cruz votes against McConnell and decides he’s not going to be caucusing with Republicans, kicking him off all his committees is an obvious move,” said GOP Hill aide John Feehery,

Maybe I’m missing some inside baseball here, but why would Cruz decide not to caucus with Republicans?

I think he intends to participate in the party, try to move it to the right, and the Tea Party republicans are trying to help the GOP become more conservative. There is little true interest in a 3rd party, or “Independent Republican” caucus IMO…

cs89 on June 9, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Great idea to attack the most popular Senator from the largest Republican state

TexasJew on June 9, 2014 at 12:37 PM

What I care about first and foremost is stopping Obama and his big government ways, so getting someone with a “R” besides their name is the most important thing we should worry about.

Tater Salad

Hopefully you forgot the sarc tag. If not, seek help.

xblade on June 9, 2014 at 12:38 PM

cs89 on June 9, 2014 at 12:37 PM

I agree. I can see him, maybe, not voting for McConnell but I can’t imagine him not caucusing with Republicans. Maybe he could trade his vote for McConnell for calling the dogs off Sen. Lee.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:43 PM

He’s the last person Wall Street would give money to,” says a big Republican donor. “They’re more interested in a Chris Christie or Jeb Bush. Even Rand Paul would be a preferable alternative to Cruz. How [Cruz] is going to run for President without big donors is beyond me.”…

Does Wall Street run this party? Do they even understand how much they are despised by the average American? They are right up there with politicians, and reporters.

They just don’t understand human nature at all…

William Eaton on June 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM

What I care about first and foremost is stopping Obama and his big government ways, so getting someone with a “R” besides their name is the most important thing we should worry about.

Tater Salad

Hopefully you forgot the sarc tag. If not, seek help.

xblade on June 9, 2014 at 12:38 PM

No sarc tag needed. Declaring some sort of political purity and losing does nothing for me or my country.

Tater Salad on June 9, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Cruz can count on at least one vote.

Bmore on June 9, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Actually I am told by Miss Lamar, two.

Bmore on June 9, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Tater Salad on June 9, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Neither does voting for some pseudo-Republican.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:51 PM

“presidential appointees drawn from Congress tend to get the collegial benefit of the doubt in confirmation hearings”

Secretary of Defense John Tower could not be reached for comment.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on June 9, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Tater Salad on June 9, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Electing a Republican who wants continue all the country-destroying policies of Barack Hussein Obama, makes no sense whatsoever.

kingsjester on June 9, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Moral relativism? The lesser of two evils? If both the Progressive Socialist Democrats and the establishment GOP(which clearly controls the Republican Party) are obstacles to the advancement of a conservative agenda then why on earth would and should principled conservatives support either party.To save America both must be defeated.

redware on June 9, 2014 at 12:53 PM

I think it truly matters who it is. I’m not voting for Christie or Jeb. And I like Jeb.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Stop talking like that.

jake-the-goose on June 9, 2014 at 12:54 PM

jake-the-goose on June 9, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Sorry but that’s the way it is. I’ll vote down ticket but not for either of those men. All possibilities considered, I think I’m still being pretty flexible.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Wall Street wants a candidate that practices the political version of Sitzkrieg.

William Eaton on June 9, 2014 at 12:59 PM

I will contribute as much as I can to make up the difference. As far as I’m concerned, Cruz is already one of the last folks standing that I would bother walking to my polling place for whom to cast my ballot.

hollygolightly on June 9, 2014 at 1:01 PM

I think it truly matters who it is. I’m not voting for Christie or Jeb. And I like Jeb.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Stop talking like that.

jake-the-goose on June 9, 2014 at 12:54 PM

*chortle*

What’s the matter, jake? You still having trouble understanding that we conservatives aren’t just going to blindly vote ‘R’ and think that solves our problems?

Bitter Clinger on June 9, 2014 at 1:02 PM

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