Are Democrats giving up on Obama?

posted at 12:01 pm on June 9, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Not on the record they aren’t, although they’re not exactly enthusiastic about Barack Obama when it comes to hitching their wagons to his central legislative achievement. Off the record, it’s a different story entirely, Ron Fournier writes at National Journal today. His most critical columns of the White House have come with Democratic rather than Republican sourcing, Fournier reveals, which reminds him a lot of the post-Katrina Bush administration:

The email hit my in-box at 9:41 p.m. last Wednesday.  From one of the most powerful Democrats in Washington, a close adviser to the White House, the missive amounted to an electronic eye roll. “Even I have had enough.”

Another Democrat had quit on President Obama.

The tipping point for this person was the Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl case—not the soldier-for-Taliban swap itself as much as how the White House mishandled its obligation to communicate effectively and honestly to Congress and the public. More than that, Obama’s team had failed once again to acknowledge its mistakes, preferring to cast blame and seek cover behind talking points.

According to Fournier, this is not anything new:

“Dem Party is F****d,” wrote a Democratic consultant with strong ties to the White House and Capitol Hill during the botched rollout of the Affordable Care Act website.

A Democratic House member whose endorsement in 2008 helped lift the Obama candidacy told me in January, “He’s bored and tired of being president, and our party is paying the price.”

Talented guy but no leader,” said a Democratic lobbyist and former member of Congress in March. “If he could govern half as well as he campaigns, he’d be a good-to-great president.”

The Taliban 5 swap may be the last straw for more Democrats, including some who aren’t shy about going on the record. Dianne Feinstein, who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee, spent all last week torpedoing White House excuses for cutting a worse deal with the Taliban than the one Congress rejected in 2011. She wasn’t backing down much yesterday when asked by Bob Schieffer on Face the Nation, claiming that the White House still hasn’t fully briefed her and her committee on the swap, and haven’t been honest about it either:

Feinstein also said that Obama is “justifiably proud” of bringing Bowe Bergdahl home, but prefaced that by saying that she had no idea why Obama would have made the announcement into a Rose Garden photo op had he known all the circumstances of Bergdahl’s disappearance. It doesn’t appear that Feinstein has much confidence in Obama’s engagement on this issue, and other Democrats feel the same way in general about Obama’s abilities as an executive or a leader.

At the same time, CNN wonders whether the Taliban 5 swap will impose a price on Democrats in the midterms:

Will foreign policy play a factor in the 2014 midterms? It is unlikely that it will be a major issue but there are ways it could have an indirect effect on the ballot box and cause trouble for Democrats when Americans turn out to vote.

At the most immediate level, the foreign policy controversy has already distracted the news media from other kinds of stories upon which congressional Democrats were hoping to focus. The foreign policy controversy intensified just as there was evidence that the economy was picking up steam and that the Obama’s health care program was gaining strength. Both signs of accomplishment were put on the back burner, overshadowed by the Bergdahl debate.

The stories also feed the perception of some voters who feel that Democrats have not done a good job managing government. This is a White House that once prided itself on competence. Obama, a well-educated politician who surrounded himself with bright staff, vowed to avoid the kind of mismanagement that had been on display with Hurricane Katrina during President George W. Bush’s term. But that reputation has slowly been undercut, especially after the botched health care website rollout and the VA scandal.

Some of the coverage of the foreign policy, including recent reports on how the deal with the Taliban was handled, have played into these kinds of criticism. The New York Times published a lengthy piece about the diminishing returns that Obama was able to obtain over the past several years in exchange for the release of the Taliban 5 and evidence of how his team had mishandled the process.

The big risk is in the dispiriting impact this will have on the Democratic base, which turned out big for Obama in his two presidential elections but failed to energize in 2010 while Tea Party anger fueled Republicans’ big win. Democrats in the Beltway who give up on Obama will be a big problem for the White House, but if that’s representative of how Americans outside of the DC clique feel the same way, it will mean disaster again in the midterm elections. And it’s not just foreign policy, but also the VA scandal that has them wondering exactly what Barack Obama thinks he does for a living.


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Why did the TaliPa have so much access to the WH big security meetings, without clearance?

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 12:03 PM

The millstONE.

Flange on June 9, 2014 at 12:03 PM

It’s too late…they’ve already screwed the country over…

PatriotRider on June 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

This is what you get when you support a Marxist out to destroy America…..

Screw the democrats and Obama…..

redguy on June 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Love the picture…article by a D.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Dems will be fine… the media will never give up on them…

shinty on June 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

I’ll believe it when I see Joe Biden’s swearing in ceremony, hot on the heals of Obama’s conviction and removal in the Senate.

turfmann on June 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM

They voted for him…TWICE. Why would anyone care what they have to say now? It’s too late for buyer’s remorse. You don’t get to return your vote.

Elections have consequences. #DEALWITHIT. #SLEEPINTHEBEDYOUMADE.

xNavigator on June 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM

It’s too late…they’ve already screwed the country over…

PatriotRider on June 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Yes a good portion of it…..

Pockets still exist that never did support Obama and his Marxist destroying ways….

Of course – for the last few years of Obama – he will try and change that as well…..

Resist we much…..

redguy on June 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM

At home, the bungled rollout of the Obamacare website and the shocking revelations about an entrenched culture of incompetence and fraud in the VA have undercut faith in the President’s managerial competency.

Abroad, a surging Russia, an aggressive China, a war torn Middle East and a resurgent terror network are putting his foreign policy credentials to the test. With the GOP hoping to seize control of the Senate in November’s midterm elections, and the inevitable decline in presidential power that occurs as second term presidents move toward lame-duck status, Obama risks being sidelined and marginalized for the remaining two years of his term.

Russia just decided to trade in the Chinese currency.

obama knows this, and now does what the marxist thug pleases.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM

obama undermines the Ds, in his quest for “a legacy”.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Here’s a news flash for you liberals. Your messiah is a piece of excrement. If it took you this long to figure it out, you’re no better.

USNCVN on June 9, 2014 at 12:07 PM

The foreign policy controversy intensified just as there was evidence that the economy was picking up steam

Um… WHAT?

What f*cking evidence? All evidence says exactly the opposite.

Midas on June 9, 2014 at 12:09 PM

On the global stage, as vulgar as ever

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 12:09 PM

the VA scandal that has them wondering exactly what Barack Obama thinks he does for a living

FORE!!

tommyboy on June 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Obama likes the job for the benefits.

There for the fun, gone for the work.

portlandon on June 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

You forgot about Bill Richardson who I just read was on ABC this Sunday spouting “We don’t have one shred of evidence Bowe Bergdahl deserted.”

Marcus on June 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

They’re not disillusioned with Obama, they just recognize something called term limits. They’re moving on to Hillary, that’s it and that’s all.

BKeyser on June 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

The disaster Obama has created on the southern border hasn’t come home to roost for the dems yet, but it will.

dogsoldier on June 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

And, as hawkdriver wrote, never has there been more discontent among the troops, as there is now.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Dems will be fine… the media will never give up on them…

shinty on June 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Battered wife syndrome. And they like it. Like an addict.

VegasRick on June 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

You forgot about Bill Richardson who I just read was on ABC this Sunday spouting “We don’t have one shred of evidence Bowe Bergdahl deserted.”

Marcus on June 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Can we get some unemployed conservatives to simply dog these people everywhere they go and throw rotten vegetables at them and scream ‘liar’ at the top of their lungs?

Midas on June 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

BacaDog on June 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

The entire land is being sold, by both parties.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Per Ron Fournier:

‘We don’t do the small stuff well. And the small stuff is the important stuff.’

– A senior White House official

Obama has the vision thing down, but is incapable of competently implementing anything. He’s ‘bored’, as Valerie Jarrett would say, by the intricacies of actually governing.

Resist We Much on June 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM

The disaster Obama has created on the southern border hasn’t come home to roost for the dems yet, but it will.

dogsoldier on June 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Diseases will consume them.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 12:13 PM

OT: Florida Governor Scott signs bill to allow illegals to pay in state tuition.

BacaDog on June 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Man, don’t know what to think anymore. Didn’t FL just do something to the effect that welfare recipients were to be drug tested in order to continue receiving benefits? Fail and you don’t get any? Guy here at work (from Florida) was cheering that last week. Now they go and do something moronic like this? wtf.

Midas on June 9, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Just stay on that couch with cousin pookie dems

cmsinaz on June 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

What difference, at this point, does it make? The nation is toast, and so are we. Mark my words. Things will never get any better than they are right now, and they will be worse for us with each and every passing day. A year from now, y’all will be thinking back to today as the ‘good old days’.

The loudest amongst us will be the first to occupy the Dog Eater’s ‘re-education, shared sacrifice camps’… Hope they have A/C…

bimmcorp on June 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

The foreign policy controversy intensified just as there was evidence that the economy was picking up steam and that the Obama’s health care program was gaining strength.

1% contraction in last quarter equals “picking up steam”?

NotCoach on June 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

1% contraction in last quarter equals “picking up steam”?

NotCoach on June 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

I guess when the train jumps the track and starts plummeting over the cliff, it will ‘pick up steam’ as it ever more rapidly approaches that sudden stop at the bottom.

Midas on June 9, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Midas on June 9, 2014 at 12:09 PM

It’s all in their minds. Q1 GDP is really -3.6 (according to the consumer metrics institute, which uses REAL numbers ) but the propaganda elite are ready to proclaim +3 GDP in the next report. Woooo hooo! ( Nice swing there even from the “official” -1 GDP )

When the dems agree to convict subzero in the Senate, then these assertions will matter. Right now, all I can ask is,

“what difference does it make?”

dogsoldier on June 9, 2014 at 12:15 PM

The world and land deserve the crapweasel.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Are Democrats giving up on Obama?

Stupid question. Are they voting to Impeach him, then the answer is No, no they are not.

oscarwilde on June 9, 2014 at 12:15 PM

There are dozens of posts on Hot Air stretching back to 2009 that all say the same exact thing. Every time the Democrats appear to be backing away, Obama throws out a new scandal to unite the party against the Republican aggression. Just wait until next week and we’ll see it all again.

joekenha on June 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Dems may be dispirited, but the ace up their sleeve is the reflexive hatred for anything even slightly conservative that they have carefully nurtured in the population over a long period of time.

All that’s needed is for their robocalls and mailers to depict even the most centrist Republican as a hateful extremist, and the LIVs dutifully trot out and vote accordingly.

You KNOW Dems aren’t going to consider the possibility that all this time they may’ve been on the wrong track.

fatherspledge on June 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Diseases will consume them.

Schadenfreude on June 9, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Scary thought, that. Diseases don’t discriminate.

dogsoldier on June 9, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Yep, some “journalists” are trying to save their reputations before it is too late…well, it’s too late.

d1carter on June 9, 2014 at 12:19 PM

NO. A big, fat, hairy NO! The dems only other choice is death itself.

HiJack on June 9, 2014 at 12:19 PM

I think the Dem’s should run on tampons, birth control and Big Bird. Worked in 2012, right? Right?

Key West Reader on June 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Feinstein should just STFU unless she is going to do something about it. She and other Senate Democrats are responsible for protecting Obama. Shut up or put up, Diane. How about calling for articles of impeachment. THAT would be doing something. Going on Fleece the Nation to try and get a booger off your finger is hardly doing your job.

rhombus on June 9, 2014 at 12:21 PM

The United States can survive Barack HUSSEIN Obama. What it can’t survive are the people who VOTE for Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

The Republic is not best served when everyone votes. It’s best served when RESPONSIBLE people vote.

We need a Constitutional Amendment, call it the “Responsible Voter Amendment”. It needs to provide for the following criteria for voting in all Federal Elections (since the Constitution cannot impose conditions on state and local elections).

1. Raise the voting age to 21.
2. Require re-registering to vote in Federal Elections every 2 years (ie: each Congressional cycle you must re-register, in other words, the rolls are scrapped completely every 2 years).
3. A test must be administered and passed with a 100% score in order to register to vote. No written material may be taken into the test. The following questions must all be answered correctly:
1: The current President of the United States
2: The current Vice President of the United States
3: The current Speaker of the House
4: The current Senate Majority Leader
5: Your two current Senators
6: Your current Representative
(demonstration of the knowledge of these persons is the least competency anyone should have to demonstrate to be able to vote)
4. The IRS will issue a certification bi-annually to each taxpayer to certify that the individual has paid more in taxes that past 2 years than they were able to reclaim in credits and deductions. This certification must be presented at the time of registration.

Failure to be 21 years of age, to demonstrate competency on the above test, to prove that one is a US Citizen, and present certification of being a taxpayer would mean you are ineligible to vote for the next 2 years (unless you would turn 21 before the next election).

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM

You forgot about Bill Richardson who I just read was on ABC this Sunday spouting “We don’t have one shred of evidence Bowe Bergdahl deserted.”

Marcus on June 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

When I was in Arizona a couple of years ago it was striking to me how many locals viewed Richardson as the biggest crook in the history of the state.

HiJack on June 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Scary thought, that. Diseases don’t discriminate.

Actually, quite a few of them do and are almost completely avoidable through behavioral choices.

Not to quibble, but we have enough ‘victimization’ mentality running around. Even diseases being brought illegally across the border could be prevented, if we would actually secure the freaking border.

xNavigator on June 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM

HiJack on June 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM

You mean NM?

bazil9 on June 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Nixon’s ghost says:

“Atta boy, Barack…stonewall’em”

BobMbx on June 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Not to quibble, but we have enough ‘victimization’ mentality running around. Even diseases being brought illegally across the border could be prevented, if we would actually secure the freaking border.

xNavigator on June 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM

AIDS could be eradicated in a generation if gays would refrain from buggery.

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:25 PM

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Count me in, but really, good luck with that, you racist, freedom-hating teabagger. /

HiJack on June 9, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Think pieces when Cliven Bundy supporters are murdering police officers?

libfreeordie on June 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

He’s theirs (and unfortunately ours) for two plus long long years.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:29 PM

HiJack on June 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM

You mean NM?

bazil9 on June 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Yes, that’s correct. I did mean New Mexico. What an idiot (me, not you).

HiJack on June 9, 2014 at 12:29 PM

libfreeordie on June 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

When are you going to worry about crazy rather than p.r. for the Lefties?

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Think pieces when Cliven Bundy supporters are murdering police officers?

libfreeordie on June 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Are you still smoking Obama’s pole?

And do you have an answer for the following yet?

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

NotCoach on June 9, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Failure to be 21 years of age, to demonstrate competency on the above test, to prove that one is a US Citizen, and present certification of being a taxpayer would mean you are ineligible to vote for the next 2 years (unless you would turn 21 before the next election).

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Can they use EBT cards to prove competence in sucking the system dry? That’s the Jesse jackson Al Sharpton Barack Obama Hillary Clinton model…

/

Key West Reader on June 9, 2014 at 12:31 PM

He’s theirs (and unfortunately ours) for two plus long long years.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:29 PM

These are going to be two long and VERY scary years too. I lay the odds of us remaining a Republic in more than name only at the end of them at 50-50 at best. Mainly because the GOP is demonstrating an unwillingness to actually BE an opposition party.

Face it, the RINO Establishment is relishing wielding all this illegal and Unconstitutional Obamapower THEMSELVES. They won’t roll it back.

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Let’s see, things are looking bad for the Dems in the upcoming election. What to do, what to do?

::pause::

Wait a moment, I know: REPUBLICANS WANT TO ENSLAVE WOMEN’S VAGINAS!!!

You know it’s coming.

Physics Geek on June 9, 2014 at 12:32 PM

That horse has already escaped. The Dems own Obama, Obamacare, the economy, the disastrous state of foreign affaires, the disaster at the border, ignoring the Constitution, and the mess that is America. Unfortunately about half of this country would vote for him again.

neyney on June 9, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Think pieces when Cliven Bundy supporters are murdering police officers?

libfreeordie on June 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

What. Language. Do. You. Speak?

VegasRick on June 9, 2014 at 12:32 PM

The big 3 networks continue to carry Obama’s water and his liberal agenda

No, Democrats will never turn their back on their beloved leader

Redford on June 9, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Think pieces when Cliven Bundy supporters are murdering police officers?

libfreeordie on June 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Go to bed, you’re drunk.

Midas on June 9, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Can they use EBT cards to prove competence in sucking the system dry? That’s the Jesse jackson Al Sharpton Barack Obama Hillary Clinton model…

/

Key West Reader on June 9, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Heh. The EBT card is what IS sucking the United States dry… And they are going to cease to be regardless of the intentions of the Regime in DC because the reality of 100 trillion dollars in debt and unfunded liability, and devaluing the currency by printing nearly a trillion dollars a year will cause it to cease to be.

The day the EBT dies you will NOT want to be in any sizable city… The government is preparing for civil unrest. This is the most likely civil unrest scenario staring us down like a loaded gun.

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Are democrats giving up on Obama? Of course not. Don’t be ridiculous.

plumorchard on June 9, 2014 at 12:37 PM

That will never happen. Most agree with the destruction of the country.

alanstern on June 9, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Feinstein should just STFU unless she is going to do something about it. She and other Senate Democrats are responsible for protecting Obama. Shut up or put up, Diane. How about calling for articles of impeachment. THAT would be doing something. Going on Fleece the Nation to try and get a booger off your finger is hardly doing your job.

rhombus on June 9, 2014 at 12:21 PM

I agree with you. Feinstein is making noise only because she’s got her own interests to protect but she’s the equivalent of an Obama Parent at this point, or perhaps more like an Obama Supplier of Resources (husband, the equivalent of the DNC money manager).

Feinstein is covering for Feinstein. And the DNC. That’s all she’s doing, making theatre noises to try and get people to look the other way instead of what’s on the screen.

Lourdes on June 9, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Think pieces when Cliven Bundy supporters are murdering police officers?

libfreeordie on June 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Some police officers dishonor the uniform need killing just like some deserters who defect to the enemy need killing.

Didn’t the Left used to decry Police Brutality? Well, we now really HAVE police brutality happening en masse. Google “dog shot by police” and stories about people calling 911 and the SWAT team shows up and shoots the victim. Not to mention the GIGANTIC jump in use of “no knock” warrants that are “served” with explosives, grenades, and a hail of bullets at 3AM, Stasi style, and quite often at the WRONG ADDRESS… This did start rising under Bush post 9/11, and under the poorly named PATRIOT Act, but like everything bad under Bush, it’s been put on STEROIDS under Obama.

No, the left is all for the Police State now that their man is in control of the Police.

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Seriously??

“Dude, Obama’s like 2 weeks ago”

HILLARY, HILLARY, HILLARY!!!!

ToddPA on June 9, 2014 at 12:41 PM

FORE!!

tommyboy on June 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Exactly…

Obama is a typical country club ivy league educated white progressive.

William Eaton on June 9, 2014 at 12:41 PM

What. Language. Do. You. Speak?

VegasRick on June 9, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Ebonics??

bimmcorp on June 9, 2014 at 12:42 PM

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:40 PM

He’s referring to the Las Vegas shooting in an attempt to hijack the thread.

NotCoach on June 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Poor Dems. They’re just now realizing that Obama just isn’t that into them. He’s only into himself.

Bitter Clinger on June 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Feinstein also said that Obama is “justifiably proud” of bringing Bowe Bergdahl home, but prefaced that by saying that she had no idea why Obama would have made the announcement into a Rose Garden photo op had he known all the circumstances of Bergdahl’s disappearance.

Six years into an incompetency with three years of negotiating this deal, and then having a Rose Garden ceremony, you’d be asking questions beforehand.

Dear Liar is incompetently malevolent.

rbj on June 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM

So what did they expect? They dug up a “racially profitable” sock puppet, with zero history of accomplishment, from a school that hasn’t been able to produce political capital in ages, and they discovered he really was an empty vessel? How dumb are they? /rhetorical,duh.

Skip2014 on June 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM

That will never happen. Most agree with the destruction of the country.

alanstern on June 9, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Everyone on the Left lives under the delusion that when the destruction happens THEY will be part of the Nobility, or at the very least, the “rich” will be stripped of all their assets which will then be transferred to them.

Anyone with any sense knows how this story will actually play out:

The Nobility consists of only the highest of the high in the Democrat Party (with some select RINOS as well) and EVERYONE not of the Nobility will be stripped of all assets which will then be TRANSFERRED TO THE NOBILITY!

All socialist systems are two class societies: The Ruling Class, and Everyone Else.

The leaders on the Left knows that socialism cannot support everyone. But they know that socialism can support THEM.

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Think pieces when Cliven Bundy supporters are murdering police officers?

libfreeordie on June 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

He’s referring to the Las Vegas shooting in an attempt to hijack the thread.

NotCoach on June 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM

I know very little about this Vegas shooting but couldn’t those be Harry Reid supporters killing cops?

Bitter Clinger on June 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM

He’s referring to the Las Vegas shooting in an attempt to hijack the thread.

NotCoach on June 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM

I am referring to law enforcement in general. In this day and age amongst the dumbest things you can do is dial 911.

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM

I know very little about this Vegas shooting but couldn’t those be Harry Reid supporters killing cops?

Bitter Clinger on June 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM

From what I have read the people who did that were clearly Nutters, and Nutters are usually Democrats.

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:47 PM

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:31 PM

After the “financial meltdown” of 2008 (Thank you Mr. Soros) I do wonder what will happen this time. Plus they have to spin it in a way that Democrats look like the best option. Tough to see how that works, but I have confidence in those sleaze buckets.

Cindy Munford on June 9, 2014 at 12:47 PM

And it’s not just foreign policy, but also the VA scandal that has them wondering exactly what Barack Obama thinks he does for a living.

Silly dems. He exists to do as he pleases. You exist to do as he pleases. And like it.

Kind of slow on the uptake, ain’t they.

perries on June 9, 2014 at 12:49 PM

I know very little about this Vegas shooting but couldn’t those be Harry Reid supporters killing cops?

Bitter Clinger on June 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Nothing is known at this point and time, not even their identities. All we have is rumor. The police aren’t releasing any information.

I am referring to law enforcement in general. In this day and age amongst the dumbest things you can do is dial 911.

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM

That’s fine, but I don’t think any of us support two officers being ambushed while eating lunch.

NotCoach on June 9, 2014 at 12:49 PM

And it’s not just foreign policy, but also the VA scandal that has them wondering exactly what Barack Obama thinks he does for a living.

He plays golf, and makes speeches and writes books about how great he is. Is there anything more to this Easy Preezy gig?

Steve Z on June 9, 2014 at 12:50 PM

He’s referring to the Las Vegas shooting in an attempt to hijack the thread.

NotCoach on June 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Yeah, libfree does that a lot. Classic troll behavior.

DisneyFan on June 9, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Think pieces when Cliven Bundy supporters are murdering police officers?

libfreeordie on June 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Wait a minute! Weren’t you applauding Django Dorner during his murder spree last year? You remember, the dude that killed 3, including 1 police officer and the daughter of former LAPD Capt Randal Quan who had represented Dorner in the disciplinary case that resulted in latter’s termination from the LAPD in 2009, and tried to kill three other police officers?

But, look on the bright side, liveenslavedthendie. Both of the cops killed in Las Vegas yesterday were white. So, that’s two fewer white cops a/k/a ‘The Man’ to ‘racially profile and oppress you’ or something.

Resist We Much on June 9, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Think pieces when Cliven Bundy supporters are murdering police officers?

libfreeordie on June 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Race-baiter says what? The topic of the thread is Obama’s loss of support among Demoncrats, not what you want it to be instead. Stay on topic, stop trying to derail threads here, or remain silent.

non-nonpartisan on June 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM

That’s fine, but I don’t think any of us support two officers being ambushed while eating lunch.

NotCoach on June 9, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Of course not.

However, I also don’t support officers blowing down doors at 3AM in military assault gear and terrorizing citizens.

That kind of excessive force is justifiable only if you have probable cause that the target of the warrant is building a nuke or something…

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM

He’s referring to the Las Vegas shooting in an attempt to hijack the thread.

NotCoach on June 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Yeah, libfree does that a lot. Classic troll behavior.

DisneyFan on June 9, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Where was lib free when Obama nominated Debo Adegbile, for assistant attorney general for the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division?

Senate majority leader Harry Reid pleaded with the Democratic-controlled Senate to approve Adegbile’s nomination.

Adegbile’s nomination had been contested because of his history at the NAACP Legal Defense Fund defending notorious cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, who was found guilty of the 1981 murder of Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner.

redguy on June 9, 2014 at 1:06 PM

The dems sat back and did nothing as a madman set out to ruin our health care, lying over and over again about being able to keep our doctors and the plans we like.
They were complicit in every wicked plan Obama implemented to destroy our country.
And now they have doubts?
Screw every democrat and the lapdog media too.

bailey24 on June 9, 2014 at 1:29 PM

I bet Ron Fournier’s email box is overflowing these days. He’s one of the only journalists who has not been completely captured by the Obama crowd. It’s absolutely hilarious watching the Juicebox Mafia types going after him on Twitter.

rockmom on June 9, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Boehner and Cantor haven’t given up on Obama so I don’t see why democrats would.

Wigglesworth on June 9, 2014 at 1:54 PM

The foreign policy controversy intensified just as there was evidence that the economy was picking up steam and that the Obama’s health care program was gaining strength.

More proof that these people are living in an alternate universe.

NOMOBO on June 9, 2014 at 1:54 PM

ConstantineXI on June 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM

I like your test above but I don’t think it would be practical to administer.

The way democracy evolved in Britain was that it was initially property owners who got the vote and a simple way to restore that would be to restrict the vote to people who contribute to society. I.e. those who are net payers of taxes.

Of course the democrats would never agree but they would not agree to your proposal either.

gh on June 9, 2014 at 2:04 PM

The Dem candidates who successfully mislead the low info, ignorant voter and get re-elected will all be back on board with Augustus Disgustus in no time.

StubbornGreenBurros on June 9, 2014 at 2:19 PM

I was anti-Obama before it was cool.

307wolverine on June 9, 2014 at 2:20 PM

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