America’s rising “progressive clerisy,” and the march toward McCarthyism

posted at 12:31 pm on June 8, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Is there anything more intolerant than the Tolerance Brigade? At the Daily Beast, Joel Kotkin agrees with Bloomberg’s Stephen Carter on the rise of a new McCarthyism, this time imposing penalties for dissent from progressive orthodoxy rather than tolerating debate on a broad range of issues. Both use attempts to silence argument in academia as the flash point that exposes this thought-police mentality. Carter recently wrote about the attempts to intimidate Douglas Laycock, an opponent of same-sex marriage [see update], and explicitly invokes McCarthyism as the dynamic in play:

A law student and a recent graduate, spurred on by the advocacy group GetEqual, have filed freedom-of-information requests for his telephone and travel records, in what they describe as an effort at dialogue about what they consider the harmful effects of his views.

This description is implausible. If they wanted to talk to him, they could knock on his door. The effort is aimed at intimidation. They want him to shut up.

Laycock’s wrong is to have taken the position that there may be cases in which individual religious freedom should trump compliance with law — a view that, during Bill Clinton’s administration, was considered the liberal position in our politics. In particular, he has filed a brief in favor of Hobby Lobby Stores Inc., in the case challenging the federal government’s rule that employers with religious objections must nevertheless comply with the mandate to pay for birth control, and he wrote a blog post in the Washington Post defending, in part, the controversial Arizona legislation, vetoed by the governor of the state, that would have expanded somewhat the protection of the state’s religious freedom laws. (News reports insisted that the changes would have meant that a caterer, for example, could refuse to work the wedding of a same-sex couple; Laycock wrote that this wasn’t what the law said.)

Laycock’s approach to the constitutional issue may be right or wrong, but it’s well within the mainstream conversation of legal scholarship. The late Ronald Dworkin, often tagged as the greatest defender of liberal theory in the legal academy, argued last year in his final bookthat Catholic adoption agencies with religious objections to adoption by same-sex couples should have a constitutional right to disobey laws requiring them to violate their convictions.

But even when a professor holds opinions off at the far margin, to target him or her for intimidation is an affront to the freedom that makes the academy worth cherishing.

Kotkin blames this on a rising “progressive clerisy” that has formed at the highest levels of government bureaucracy, the entertainment industry, and academia:

In ways not seen since at least the McCarthy era, Americans are finding themselves increasingly constrained by a rising class—what I call the progressive Clerisy—that accepts no dissent from its basic tenets. Like the First Estate in pre-revolutionary France, the Clerisy increasingly exercises its power to constrain dissenting views, whether on politics, social attitudes or science.

An alliance of upper level bureaucrats and cultural elites, the Clerisy, for for all their concerns about inequality, have thrived, unlike most Americans, in recent years. They also enjoy strong relations with the power structure in Washington, Silicon Valley, Hollywood and Wall Street. …

Today’s Clerisy attempts to distill today’s distinctly secular “truths”—on issues ranging from the nature of justice, race and gender to the environment—and decide what is acceptable and that which is not. Those who dissent from the accepted point of view can expect their work to be simply ignored, or in some cases vilified. In the Clerical bastion of San Francisco, an actress with heretical views, in this case supporting a Tea Party candidate, who was pilloried, and lost work for her offense.

The pattern of intolerance has been particularly notable in the area of climate change, where serious debate would seem prudent not only on the root causes and effects, but also what may present the best solutions. Climate scientists who diverge from the warming party line, even in a matter of degree, are routinely excoriated by the Clerisy as “deniers” of “settled” science even in the face of 15 years of relatively stable temperatures. The media also participates in this defense of orthodoxy. The Los Angeles Times as well as the website Reddit have chosen to exclude contributions from skeptics.

The stifling orthodoxy from the technocrats and media elite is benign compared to the inquisitional behavior can be seen in institutions of higher education. It is nothing short of tragic, notes civil libertarian Nat Hentoff, that a 2010 survey of 24,000 college students found that barely a third thought it “safe to hold unpopular views on campus.”

In an interview Friday with Sheila Liaugminas, I pointed this same dynamic out on the issue of same-sex marriage. What had been the consensus view of the definition of marriage for thousands of years up to less than a decade ago has now become not just a minority view, but according to the “Clerisy” prima facie evidence of pure bigotry itself. The traditional view of marriage is not merely wrong, according to those who support same-sex marriage, but entirely illegitimate. Debate on government policy gets squelched by threatening those who dare to dissent with either character assassination or career suicide merely for having a difference of opinion, and even when that difference of opinion does not threaten the current cultural consensus.

This is not tolerance, and it is not the impulse of people who value freedom and open debate. It’s the Robespierre impulse, not the Jeffersonian impulse. It’s the eventual end point of moral relativism, where consensus in and of itself is the ultimate and sole validation for a point of view, and enforced by those in power for their own ends. Orwell noted that in 1984 when the government kept changing the enemy: “Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia,” and “Oceania has never been at war with Eastasia.”

If we want to see where this model leads, Argentina’s Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner gives us a sneak peek, via Fausta:

Argentina’s President Cristina Kirchner has created a new post: secretary for strategic co-ordination of national thought.

Opposition leaders immediately derided the initiative, with some bristling over what they see as the post’s fascist overtones. …

“It’s pathetic and deplorable to designate a strategic secretary for national thought, as if those who aren’t Kichneristas are not national,” said Federico Pinedo, head of a conservative bloc in the lower house. “That’s old-style fascism.”

Even the idea of “national thought,” let alone a government ministry of it, steps down the well-traveled road of fascism and tyranny. This is what happens when dissent is punished and silenced because of its heterodoxy from “the consensus,” regardless of what context in which it takes place.

Update: Greg Scott of Alliance Defending Freedom points out to me via e-mail that Laycock is actually a supporter of same-sex marriage, which makes his persecution even more inexplicable — and makes the point even more strongly that any dissent from the Clerisy’s agenda will be suppressed.


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GetEqual, have filed freedom-of-information requests for his telephone and travel records,

Is this government santioned stalking? How are these records any ones business? I also thought the FOIA was set up so we (the people) could kep track of what our gevernment was doing. Not so advocacy groups could track the movments of private citizens. I would say this is scary stuff, but as Obama proves almost every day. Laws that liberals don’t like are just not enforced.

MrsGsBoyTommy on June 8, 2014 at 12:38 PM

and the march toward McCarthyism

Er … McCarthy was correct and pro-American. Leftists are incorrect and anti-American. Bit of a difference, there. We even get to see the effects of unleashed commies throughout society, now. The death of the US.

Weird that anyone would use “McCarthyism” in describing a group that is actively pro-Commie (though they seem to be more Maoists, now, than Leninists or Stalinists, and more race-based than class-based) and trying to “fundamentally deform” this nation rather than defend its Constitutional architecture.

I think “the march toward Retarded, All-Encompassing Totalitarianism” would be much more accurate. McCarthy wasn’t acting as the thought police any more than any idea of treason does. These leftists, however, want to be nothing but the thought police and to do with respect to every little thing.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 8, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Laycock, whom I know only slightly but whose work I have taught for decades, is on the merits a supporter of same-sex marriage.

Sometimes, it helps to read what’s on your own site.

corona79 on June 8, 2014 at 12:41 PM

new McCarthyism

?

Where has he been the last 50 years?

Think about the anti-war movement. They shouted down and hounded out of public life anybody who dared disagree.

Same with the Gaystapo going back to Anita Bryant.

Now they’re older and in a better position to impose their will is all.

formwiz on June 8, 2014 at 12:41 PM

If the USA goes for Hillary, then the USA goes for being Argentina.

If that happens, the USA deserves the same economic and political devastation as now possesses Argentina.

Schadenfreude on June 8, 2014 at 12:42 PM

on a rising “progressive clerisy” that has formed at the highest levels of government bureaucracy, the entertainment industry, and academia

…a rising?…hell!…it took of like a spacecraft… the last 10 years!

KOOLAID2 on June 8, 2014 at 12:42 PM

The same husband-wife band which ruined Argentina will finish off the USA, if the Clinton-machine takes over from the obama marxist move.

Schadenfreude on June 8, 2014 at 12:42 PM

If that happens, the USA deserves the same economic and political devastation as now possesses Argentina.

Schadenfreude on June 8, 2014 at 12:42 PM

The USA may deserve it, but I sure don’t”

MrsGsBoyTommy on June 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM

It’s time to read Mill’s On Liberty again. If we aren’t free to express our thoughts or even to think certain thoughts with impunity, then we aren’t free. The left doesn’t understand this because it has rejected true liberalism in favor of illiberal ideologies that constrain thought and free speech.

Baerwulf on June 8, 2014 at 12:45 PM

We have never been at war with the Taliban.

BobMbx on June 8, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Climate scientists who diverge from the warming party line, even in a matter of degree, are routinely excoriated by the Clerisy as “deniers” of “settled” science even in the face of 15 years of relatively stable temperatures.

“Right now, the House of Representatives is considering a bill to override science by mandating that white potatoes be included on the list of foods that women can purchase using WIC dollars. Now, there is nothing wrong with potatoes. The problem is that many women and children already consume enough potatoes and not enough of the nutrient-dense fruits and vegetables they need. That’s why the Institute of Medicine – the nonpartisan, scientific body that advises on the standards for WIC – has said that potatoes should not be part of the WIC program.” -Michael (that’s what Barry calls “her”) 0b00ba

“You’ve had enough potatoes you science denier!!!!1!”
~
Recent work on conservatism has pointed out that conservatives have several symptoms in common with people who are mentally ill, including:

- Delusional thinking
- Paranoia
- Disconnection from others/lack of empathy
- Mental rigidity/closed-mindedness
- Uncertainty avoidance, intolerance for ambiguity, dichotomous thinking
- Compartmentalized thinking

~

It’s all right there in the science.

Akzed on June 8, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Why fight them, Ed? You plan on eventually giving up to them, anyway.

Pincher Martin on June 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Yes, but remember what happened to Robespierre in the end.

Tinker on June 8, 2014 at 12:48 PM

We already have a Ministry of Thought between the NSA and DHS.

ConstantineXI on June 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Ed, take a page out of Alinsky and give these people a label, something that all of us can use to property identify them as a target.

We could have a poll, readers pick appropriately nasty enough names until we find one that sticks. I personally like ROHMS (named after Ernst Rohm) but it doesn’t really sing.

Also, if they’re religious in their methodology, and I mean religious in the bad, inquisition and jihad sort of way, then by all means use that and keep using that against them. Make it clear that they are hypocrites of the highest order.

EVA-04 on June 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Yes, but remember what happened to Robespierre in the end.

Tinker on June 8, 2014 at 12:48 PM

True, but France remained a ridiculous sh!tpile for the rest of its pathetic existence, anyway. France is on its 5th Republic, already. That’s a strikeout even in pee-wee tee-ball league. I can’t figure out why they keep calling it France.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

The late Allan Bloom saw this coming decades ago. In his seminal book, The Closing of the American Mind, he described exactly the same phenomenon we’re seeing now. Once the university was radicalized, the rest of society would follow suit.

His book is now out of print, but you can still get it from a good local library. That is, if they haven’t burned all of the copies.

Such a book could probably never get published today.

Conservative Mischief on June 8, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Of all the many examples of America’s moral decline over the past 50 years, this rocket-speed trajectory toward approved “National Thought” is what makes me the most sad for our country.

KS Rex on June 8, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Kirchner’s term ends a year and a half from now. She’s not allowed to run for re-election again.

Watch this as a test bed for Obama’s own crisis of power coming in 2016… Kirchner will almost certainly pull off a coup and overstay her term. Obama’s reaction will be telling.

ConstantineXI on June 8, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Make it clear that they are hypocrites of the highest order. EVA-04 on June 8, 2014 at 12:51 PMEVA-04 on June 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

For conservatives to use Alinsky tactics would be hypocrisy.

He dedicated his book to Lucifer (a mistaken moniker for Satan).

Alinsky’s method depends on the stupidity of his followers’ followers. It’s about brainwashing, not the dissemination of truth.

It is ignoble at its core. We shouldn’t do evil hoping that good may come of it.

Akzed on June 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM

So…can we start calling them fascists now?

joekenha on June 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM

True, but France remained a ridiculous sh!tpile for the rest of its pathetic existence, anyway. France is on its 5th Republic, already. That’s a strikeout even in pee-wee tee-ball league. I can’t figure out why they keep calling it France.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

It will be called Francistan in 50 years given the birthrate of the muslim cockroaches they keep importing.

ConstantineXI on June 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Another softball post by Ed -I’ve been writing for The Week and influenced by their liberal editors so often that I can no longer muster the appropriate level of outrage for our country’s impending demise- Morrissey.

The passion truly seems to be gone.

BKeyser on June 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM

The passion truly seems to be gone.
BKeyser on June 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM

There are other blogs, you know.

Akzed on June 8, 2014 at 12:59 PM

The USA may deserve it, but I sure don’t”

MrsGsBoyTommy on June 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Yes, I know, but the USA is still a constitutional republic. If the majority are that dumb, we get to live with the results too, unless our leaders grow a pair and fight the rats with the same audacity they do.

Schadenfreude on June 8, 2014 at 1:01 PM

We need a Constitutional Amendment that should be called the “Voter Competency Amendment”. It should require demonstrating baseline competency to be registered and eligible to vote, and I believe it should raise the voting age from 18 to 21.

Baseline competency: You must answer ALL of these questions correctly or be ineligible to vote for 2 years. This test must be taken every 2 years at your county clerk’s office where you must re-register to vote.

1. The current President of the United States.
2. The current Vice President of the United States.
3. The current Speaker of the House.
4. The current Senate Majority Leader.
5. Both of your Senators.
6. Your Representative.

If you cannot answer all 6 of those questions you have no business voting whatsoever. Of course Democrats will call this RAAAAACIST!!!!

ConstantineXI on June 8, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Yes, I know, but the USA is still a constitutional republic. If the majority are that dumb, we get to live with the results too, unless our leaders grow a pair and fight the rats with the same audacity they do.

Schadenfreude on June 8, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Or we separate. Let the Left have it’s country but we are going to insist we have one of our own separate from them.

ConstantineXI on June 8, 2014 at 1:05 PM

They want to control what we eat, drink, read, study, worship, visit, breathe, etc.

There’s a time coming when the human trash who are equivalent to Sharia scum go too far, and then all bets are off.

Bishop on June 8, 2014 at 1:05 PM

At the Daily Beast

The link you provided redirects to a different article, likely because there is a “#” at the end of it.

Correct link without “#”:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/07/watch-what-you-say-the-new-liberal-power-elite-won-t-tolerate-dissent.html

Mark Boabaca on June 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM

“Are you now, or have you ever been, a conservative?”

It’s coming at us real hard now, and there’s very little time left to effectively resist. There are a lot of people who will have to go, one way or another, if this constitutional republic is to be salvaged.

Harbingeing on June 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM

They want to control what we eat, drink, read, study, worship, visit, breathe, etc.

There’s a time coming when the human trash who are equivalent to Sharia scum go too far, and then all bets are off.

Bishop on June 8, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Control freak Leftists cannot tolerate there being ANYONE beyond their meddling, outside their control, free and independent…

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. -CS Lewis

ConstantineXI on June 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM

This story has already been told in the Bible, folks. If one has a curious nature and wishes to know how it all ends, may I recommend the Book of Revelation?

bimmcorp on June 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM

This happens when sentiment triumphs over rule of law. See also, Obama.

LashRambo on June 8, 2014 at 1:09 PM

It’s coming at us real hard now, and there’s very little time left to effectively resist. There are a lot of people who will have to go, one way or another, if this constitutional republic is to be salvaged.

Harbingeing on June 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM

A rifle behind every blade of grass.

A confrontation with the State is inevitable because as long as the above is true, the People will always outgun the government by many multiples, so they will have to at some point attempt to disarm us.

ConstantineXI on June 8, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Akzed on June 8, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Ah yes. One cannot criticize less he be banished from the community. Perfect thread for that comment.

Hopefully it was sarcasm.

BKeyser on June 8, 2014 at 1:10 PM

That, my friend, is what the Texas Nationalist Movement is all about. And why I support it. I long for the day when I can wash my hands of all the progressive slime that has rendered the United States filthy.

bimmcorp on June 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Ah yes. One cannot criticize less he be banished from the community. Perfect thread for that comment.

Hopefully it was sarcasm.

BKeyser on June 8, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Touche.

VegasRick on June 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM

More like a march to borg fascism.

VorDaj on June 8, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Even the idea of “national thought,” let alone a government ministry of it, steps down the well-traveled road of fascism and tyranny.

Exactly. The tyranny isn’t limited to gays, it also applies to global warming and creationism vs. evolutionism. Progressives are out there everywhere calling people with religious beliefs or people who question the science of global warming “idiots”. And of course, they’re making it political too, making generalizations about the GOP not believing in evolution or climate change. The “religious right” are fanatics. If you don’t like the president, and I don’t, you’re a racist. If you don’t believe in gay marriage, you’re a homophobic. If you don’t want Hillary to be president, you’re part of the war on women progressives invented. These are the most divisive times ever.

scalleywag on June 8, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Ed –

It’s not just liberals that are pulling this crap. Conservative group demands emails, phone records of UNC anti-poverty crusader after critical newspaper column

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM

A confrontation with the State is inevitable because as long as the above is true, the People will always outgun the government by many multiples, so they will have to at some point attempt to disarm us.

ConstantineXI on June 8, 2014 at 1:10 PM

It is coming. The final straw will be the release of even more filthy murderers from Gitmo and obaME thumbing his nose at us and the press dutifully fluffing him. I am surprised it hasn’t started already.

VegasRick on June 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Universities are leftist indoctrination centers. I’m very glad that 90% of my courses were in math and science. No time for delusional rants about the patriarchy when you’re working with proofs.

DisneyFan on June 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM

It’s all right there in the science.

Akzed on June 8, 2014 at 12:46 PM

This is written by a gay man who is NOT a scientist. He calls himself a “Killer of Sacred Cows.” He is full of the cow manure he steps. He doesn’t know jacksh*t about psychiatry or mental illness. He is just a self-perceived victim and self-appointed hater of conservatives.

rlwo2008 on June 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Kirchner’s term ends a year and a half from now. She’s not allowed to run for re-election again.

Watch this as a test bed for Obama’s own crisis of power coming in 2016… Kirchner will almost certainly pull off a coup and overstay her term. Obama’s reaction will be telling.

ConstantineXI on June 8, 2014 at 12:54 PM

IIRC in Honduras, Manuel Zelaya was at the end of his Constitutionally allowed limits and balked at leaving office.

The Honduran military had to force him to leave, and obama and the MSM called it a coup. He snuck back into the country trying to usurp power from President Porfirio Lobo Sosa.

obama refused to admit that Zelaya was illegally trying to stay in office. The United States under SecState Clinton signed an agreement to let Zelaya to remain in office for the “remainder of his term” three more months, although, again IIRC he was at the end of his term limits.

I said back then that obama would try to use this as a precedent to remain in office after his term expires.

davidk on June 8, 2014 at 1:21 PM

It is virtually impossible for political correctness not to go complete totalitarian (Communist, Fascist, Islamic, 1984, whatever). It does not grow to a moderate level and then stop, as like cancer, that is not in it’s nature, nor in the nature of the inquisition conducting, self-appointed arbiters of proper speech and proper thought, who promote it. It is a bondage of the mind; a chaining of the intellect; a leash for those to be made mental slaves; a stifling, and ultimately a decapitation, of human liberty itself; a regression back to the Inquisitions of the Dark Ages.

In plain and clear fact, political correctness is an attempt to commit genocide against free speech and even free thought to the degree at all possible. Left alive, it will continue to feed on the human mind and spirit until there is nothing left but some kind of mindless and obedient serf drone ant level collective. To the human mind it is the plague.

VorDaj on June 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM Money Quote from your link:


“A nasty attack of this sort on a governor might be ignored if Gene Nichol were a fringe figure. But he is not. He is a law professor who receives $205,400 per year from North Carolina taxpayers.”

Sorry, there muppet – The a$$wipe is being paid with TAXPAYER DOLLARS. You’re damn right an FOIA request should apply to him.

Harbingeing on June 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Ken Cuccinelli has used similar tactics as well.

Among the documents Cuccinelli demands are any and all emailed or written correspondence between or relating to Mann and more than 40 climate scientists, documents supporting any of five applications for the $484,875 in grants, and evidence of any documents that no longer exist along with proof of why, when, and how they were destroyed or disappeared.

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM

“A nasty attack of this sort on a governor might be ignored if Gene Nichol were a fringe figure. But he is not. He is a law professor who receives $205,400 per year from North Carolina taxpayers.”

Sorry, there muppet – The a$$wipe is being paid with TAXPAYER DOLLARS. You’re damn right an FOIA request should apply to him.

Harbingeing on June 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM

So is Laycock!

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Ah yes. One cannot criticize less he be banished from the community. Perfect thread for that comment.

Hopefully it was sarcasm.

BKeyser on June 8, 2014 at 1:10 PM

BOO YAH!!!

I love when folks call out the establishment defenders for not really being conservatives and it riles up the defenders. Do not let them silence you.

reddevil on June 8, 2014 at 1:27 PM

It may, MAY come when amnesty appears in the fall simply because the economic lower classes are going to collide while the middle class tries to protect themselves. The upper class will flee.

They can’t get blood from a stone so they’ll have to go somewhere else; your savings, 401k, retirement plans, you name it.

Bishop on June 8, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Ah yes. One cannot criticize less he be banished from the community. Perfect thread for that comment.

Hopefully it was sarcasm.

BKeyser on June 8, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Touche.

VegasRick on June 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM

IOW, don’t criticize my criticism. Tolerance.

davidk on June 8, 2014 at 1:29 PM

No thread about Argentina is complete without the official Cristina Fernández de Kirchner rap video.

steebo77 on May 10, 2012 at 8:05 AM

steebo77 on June 8, 2014 at 1:29 PM

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Look, ANYONE paid with taxpayer dollars, whether in salaries or gov’t grants, or gov’t contracts – should be subject to intensive scrutiny and have no expectation of privacy whatsoever. They are our stinking employees FFS, and doing a damn lousy job for us, wouldn’t you say?

Harbingeing on June 8, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Please… Stop calling these things the token, trendy, & cliche’ ‘McCarthyism,’ be it in going after 1 side of the political spectrum or another. That was terminology made up for something going on in another, far different era, in the 1950s, & there was a multitude of other political & cultural factors & dynamics involved. This is now 2014. Whatever Joe McCarthy’s mistakes in that bygone era, he was right, right, right about lots of things, as it is- sadly & tragically- plain to see lots & lots & lots of leftists in & throughout our government, politics, citizenry, media, religion, science, education, & on & on, today, from the top on down & from the bottom on up. It is now past time for the lazy, poser thinkers to keep reflexively getting a cheap thrill out of calling things ‘McCarthyism,’ so let’s all resolve to use other, more appropriate terminology to observe, call out, & show whatever’s going on in this era.

ABLOGMAN on June 8, 2014 at 1:32 PM

It may, MAY come when amnesty appears in the fall simply because the economic lower classes are going to collide while the middle class tries to protect themselves. The upper class will flee.

They can’t get blood from a stone so they’ll have to go somewhere else; your savings, 401k, retirement plans, you name it.

Bishop on June 8, 2014 at 1:28 PM

One EU country (France?) is proposing negative interest on savings accounts. They want that money in circulation where it can prop up their dismal economies, AND generate more sales tax monies.

davidk on June 8, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Look, ANYONE paid with taxpayer dollars, whether in salaries or gov’t grants, or gov’t contracts – should be subject to intensive scrutiny and have no expectation of privacy whatsoever. They are our stinking employees FFS, and doing a damn lousy job for us, wouldn’t you say?

Harbingeing on June 8, 2014 at 1:30 PM

You realize that Laycock is paid with taxpayer dollars. I think we can all agree that the tactics used against him are despicable.

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Why fight them, Ed? You plan on eventually giving up to them, anyway.

Pincher Martin on June 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM

I’m guessing HotAir’s Hillary endorsement can’t be far away. HA! (even though that’s pure sarcasm, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility anymore)

reddevil on June 8, 2014 at 1:36 PM

IOW, don’t criticize my criticism. Tolerance.

davidk on June 8, 2014 at 1:29 PM

I have never told a poster on HA that they should leave because I don’t agree with them, that’s a tactic of the left. I probably agree with Akzed way more often than not. I’ll leave it at that.

VegasRick on June 8, 2014 at 1:36 PM

We have laws that protect against religious discrimination.. but it’s like they don’t exist.

This is why law of itself is meaningless if the leaders are corrupt and there is only one party rule. Which we seem to be heading. If a Democrat wins the Presidency in 2016.. I think the country will be finished. I truly believe America will fall into such a barbaric state that people will begin fleeing the nation. Unless the left shuts the doors to leaving.. which is what I suspect at some point they will want to do.

JellyToast on June 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I tell myself, naively I suppose, given how far off the rails the left has gone, that the day will come when no one wants to be associated with it, that the words “liberal,” “progressive,” and “democrat” will go the way of “Nazi” and “McCarthyism.” But then I also assume a lot of bad stuff will have to happen to a lot of good Americans before that finally comes to pass. They’re beginning to eat themselves now, but perhaps not fast enough.

Rational Thought on June 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Taxpayer funded anyones s/b open books and should Never receive bonuses. They Never produce any profits and thus deserve nothing extra. The deserve average salaries but are now superior to private employees and have better benefits packages.

Above all, they are impertinent thugs, their unions should all be forbidden.

They all, from obama on down, have forgotten that we are their benefactors and customers.

If anyone can’t internalize this, go to Hades, with them. YOU are then not any different.

Schadenfreude on June 8, 2014 at 1:39 PM

The Closing of the American Mind is very much in print and available from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Closing-American-Mind-Education-Impoverished/dp/1451683200/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402249080&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=clossing+of+the+american+mind
Required reading for where we are now.

Rumpole of the Bailey on June 8, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Look, ANYONE paid with taxpayer dollars, whether in salaries or gov’t grants, or gov’t contracts – should be subject to intensive scrutiny and have no expectation of privacy whatsoever. They are our stinking employees FFS, and doing a damn lousy job for us, wouldn’t you say?

Harbingeing on June 8, 2014 at 1:30 PM

In academia, their body of work, including public statements, should be open to public scrutiny, not their travel records, phone calls, etc. To do so because they are paid with tax dollars is to use the same tactics of those after this law professor.

rlwo2008 on June 8, 2014 at 1:41 PM

My favorite writer, Kevin D. Williamson, calls it an emerging junta:

The question here is nothing less than the legitimacy of the United States government. When law-enforcement agencies and federal regulators with extraordinary coercive powers are subordinated to political interests rather than their official obligations — to the Party rather than to the law — then the law itself becomes meaningless, and the delicate constitutional order we have enjoyed for more than two centuries is reduced to a brutal might-makes-right proposition. Elected officials and public servants of both parties take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States and to faithfully discharge the duties of their office. That oath is now being tested.

RushBaby on June 8, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Bloom was a prophet. A colleague complimented him on his book and said that being in the hard sciences he would never have to worry about this. Bloom’s response was “Just wait”.

Rumpole of the Bailey on June 8, 2014 at 1:42 PM

We need to take back the term “McCarthyism” and promote it for what is was: an honest and valid effort to identify Soviet spies who had infiltrated the U.S. Government (especially the State Dept.), resulting in the deaths of a multitude of U.S. soldiers, diplomats, and intelligence personnel… while send our technology to the Communists left and right.

Even the Socialists over a PBS now concede that McCarthy was correct all along:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/venona/intercepts.html

VastRightWingConspirator on June 8, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Ed, according to PowerLine you are incorrect. Prof. Laycock is both pro-same sex marriage but the right for people to decline service on religious grounds.

Cindy Munford on June 8, 2014 at 1:43 PM

This is why law of itself is meaningless if the leaders are corrupt and there is only one party rule. Which we seem to be heading. If a Democrat wins the Presidency in 2016.. I think the country will be finished. I truly believe America will fall into such a barbaric state that people will begin fleeing the nation. Unless the left shuts the doors to leaving.. which is what I suspect at some point they will want to do.

JellyToast on June 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I use to think that was silly talk but………….closer everyday.

VegasRick on June 8, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Why fight them, Ed? You plan on eventually giving up to them, anyway.

We have our winner.

FrankT on June 8, 2014 at 1:44 PM

That oath is now being tested.

RushBaby on June 8, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Tested? More like Destroyed.

VegasRick on June 8, 2014 at 1:46 PM

In ways not seen since at least the McCarthy era, Americans are finding themselves increasingly constrained by a rising class—what I call the progressive Clerisy—that accepts no dissent from its basic tenets. Like the First Estate in pre-revolutionary France, the Clerisy increasingly exercises its power to constrain dissenting views, whether on politics, social attitudes or science.

BTW, liberals have made the same accusations against the Tea party.

Like the Stalinists and the Jacobins, today’s tea party zealots have purified their movement — not by executing but by driving away those Republicans who don’t share their enthusiasm for wrecking their country if they can’t compel the majority to embrace their notions. Today, there are fewer but “better” Republicans — if “better” means adhering to the tea party view that a United States not adhering to tea party values deserves to be brought to a clangorous halt. NBC News-Wall Street Journal polling last week turned up a bare 24 percent of Americans who have a favorable impression of the Republican Party — a share almost as low as the 21 percent who have a favorable impression of the tea party.

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Dear Leader smiles….

d1carter on June 8, 2014 at 1:50 PM

What were such actions called before McCarthy hit the scene?

Too many people are disguising this behavior with window dressing and far far too many people are staring through the glass with glazed-eyed and drooling mouths.

Bishop on June 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM

a share almost as low as the 21 percent who have a favorable impression of the tea party.

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Yep, the “Taxed Enough Already” party is the cause of all of our problems. Cause everybody knows that raising all of our taxes would solve all of our problems…………………..

VegasRick on June 8, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Anecdotally, I spent some time at the Legion yesterday to participate in an “unofficial” roundtable about Bergdahl and the VA, standing room only; there is disgust, dismay, and supreme anger from a cross-section of our members.

Bishop on June 8, 2014 at 1:54 PM

This story has already been told in the Bible, folks. If one has a curious nature and wishes to know how it all ends, may I recommend the Book of Revelation?

bimmcorp on June 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Here’s a music video that tells where we’re headed. The thought police are coming and Christianity is one of the main targets. (Every totalitarian regime must marginalize Christianity before it can take over.)

Christian Conservative on June 8, 2014 at 1:57 PM

In academia, their body of work, including public statements, should be open to public scrutiny, not their travel records, phone calls, etc. To do so because they are paid with tax dollars is to use the same tactics of those after this law professor.

rlwo2008 on June 8, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Bull. When their travel and phone calls are also being paid for with taxpayer dollars, they deserve no quarter, no refuge from public scrutiny. They use their taxpayer-funded pulpit to attack people they disagree with, indoctrinate leftist political positions into the student minds, and then expect tenure-level immunity for their words and actions. I’ve had enough of it. Haven’t you?

Harbingeing on June 8, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Anecdotally, I spent some time at the Legion yesterday to participate in an “unofficial” roundtable about Bergdahl and the VA, standing room only; there is disgust, dismay, and supreme anger from a cross-section of our members.

Bishop on June 8, 2014 at 1:54 PM

I’m glad they are staying engaged. The outrage over this should NEVER end.

VegasRick on June 8, 2014 at 1:58 PM

BTW, liberals have made the same accusations against the Tea party.

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Your accusations don’t make it a reality.

sharrukin on June 8, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Yep, the “Taxed Enough Already” party is the cause of all of our problems. Cause everybody knows that raising all of our taxes would solve all of our problems…………………..

VegasRick on June 8, 2014 at 1:53 PM

My point was merely that it’s pretty ironic that a group obsessed with purifying its party is outraged about another group not accepting dissent.

Remember when Marco Rubio was a tea party god until he supported amnesty?

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:58 PM

I’m guessing HotAir’s Hillary endorsement can’t be far away. HA! (even though that’s pure sarcasm, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility anymore)

Don’t be surprised. If ‘ol Cruz or someone like him were to get the nom there would be fallout.

HA endorsed McCain back in ’08. The same McCain who has said he’d advocate for Hillary if Cruz or Paul was on the ballot two years from now. McCain would probably show up at the Democratic nominating convention. What would HA do then? Go Charles Johnson?

FrankT on June 8, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Remember when Marco Rubio was a tea party god until he supported amnesty?

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:58 PM

So the Tea Party choosing to stand on principles that they believe in, rather than worship a particular politician is something to be condemned?

sharrukin on June 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM

No thread about Argentina is complete without the official Cristina Fernández de Kirchner rap video.

steebo77 on May 10, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Argentina is what happens when a politician rises to the top based on a the hotness factor. Eventually, they ain’t so hot looking and everyone wonders “how did she ever get elected to office?”

The same dynamic works with skin color, too.

BobMbx on June 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Your accusations don’t make it a reality.

sharrukin on June 8, 2014 at 1:58 PM

You honestly think that the Tea Party is tolerant of dissent within its ranks?

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM

“Climate scientists who diverge from the warming party line, even in a matter of degree, are routinely excoriated by the Clerisy as “deniers” of “settled” science even in the face of 15 years of relatively stable temperatures.”

I am Jewish and this drives me up the wall. Global warming fascists are trying to compare anyone who dissents from their BS to Holocaust deniers. That’s why they use the word “deniers” instead of “skeptics”.

FOAF on June 8, 2014 at 2:03 PM

So the Tea Party choosing to stand on principles that they believe in, rather than worship a particular politician is something to be condemned?

sharrukin on June 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Can’t the same be said about liberals? They’re standing for their principles (pro ssm, global warming, etc.) and won’t tolerate dissent.

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 2:03 PM

You honestly think that the Tea Party is tolerant of dissent within its ranks?

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM

I guess that would depend on your definition of dissent.

sharrukin on June 8, 2014 at 2:03 PM

They’re standing for their principles (pro ssm, global warming, etc.) and won’t tolerate dissent.

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Fighting for what they believe in isn’t the problem. Attempting to silence anyone who disagrees is.

sharrukin on June 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM

necdotally, I spent some time at the Legion yesterday to participate in an “unofficial” roundtable about Bergdahl and the VA, standing room only; there is disgust, dismay, and supreme anger from a cross-section of our members. Bishop on June 8, 2014 at 1:54 PM

I can only imagine.

Did they say what I’m thinking?

We can’t write it on here.

Just nod your head.

wolly4321 on June 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Ed, according to PowerLine you are incorrect. Prof. Laycock is both pro-same sex marriage but the right for people to decline service on religious grounds.

Cindy Munford on June 8, 2014 at 1:43 PM

You mean….the right for someone to do something doesn’t levy a requirement on me to support and/or enable it?

What radical thinking…..

BobMbx on June 8, 2014 at 2:06 PM

The Closing of the American Mind is very much in print and available from Amazon

It’s also on the Pirate Bay if it’s not being sold anywhere.

FrankT on June 8, 2014 at 2:06 PM

I guess that would depend on your definition of dissent.

sharrukin on June 8, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Believing in man made global warming or amnesty would constitute dissent.

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 2:06 PM

themuppet

Don’t debate the liberal trolls. They aren’t changing their minds and just want to get you tied up in ideological defenses. We are past the tipping point and scholastic debate is a thing of the past.

FrankT on June 8, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Remember when Marco Rubio was a tea party god until he supported amnesty?

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:58 PM

You clearly have no conception of what the ‘tea party’ is all about. It is an acronym for “Taxed Enough Already”…Nothing to do with immigration, gay rights, abortion or any other issue of the day. It was all about taxes and an out of control government. It is idiots like you who have attempted to broaden their scope and redefine them in your feeble effort to marginalize them. Conservatives, on the other hand, have a great deal to say about immigration, abortion and the gays. And the GOP lacks the cojones to stand firm on any principle or issue at all, save pandering for votes…just like the dems.

bimmcorp on June 8, 2014 at 2:10 PM

We’re pissed off out here but my district is an island of red surrounded by a filthy, disease-ridden, sea of blue; my vote is almost worthless beyond the mayor.

I figure I have just enough distance from the Twin Cities to be able to see it coming but not to be affected right away.

Bishop on June 8, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Believing in man made global warming or amnesty would constitute dissent.

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Well that isn’t conservative because we believe in actual science which requires proof, and we believe in the rule of law. And even at that there are those who believe such things and are not ‘crushed’.

Having principles that define what a group is about and excluding those who do not believe those things is not the same thing as crushing dissent. Progressives want to force everyone to believe as they do, which is VERY different than simply requiring like-minded individuals in their organization.

sharrukin on June 8, 2014 at 2:13 PM

BTW, liberals have made the same accusations against the Tea party.

Like the Stalinists and the Jacobins, today’s tea party zealots have purified their movement — not by executing but by driving away those Republicans who don’t share their enthusiasm for wrecking their country if they can’t compel the majority to embrace their notions. Today, there are fewer but “better” Republicans — if “better” means adhering to the tea party view that a United States not adhering to tea party values deserves to be brought to a clangorous halt. NBC News-Wall Street Journal polling last week turned up a bare 24 percent of Americans who have a favorable impression of the Republican Party — a share almost as low as the 21 percent who have a favorable impression of the tea party.

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Who care what looney LA Socialist Harold Meyerson says abouth anything, other than you?

Del Dolemonte on June 8, 2014 at 2:13 PM

So the Tea Party choosing to stand on principles that they believe in, rather than worship a particular politician is something to be condemned?

sharrukin on June 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Can’t the same be said about liberals? They’re standing for their principles (pro ssm, global warming, etc.) and won’t tolerate dissent.

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Yep, the liberals would never worship a particular politician. Never!!!!

VegasRick on June 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM

You honestly think that the Tea Party is tolerant of dissent within its ranks?

themuppet on June 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM

There are no ‘ranks’ among the ‘tea party’, because the TP is NOT a political party in the context you believe it to be. The ‘tea party’ is a concept. A concept of limited government and even more limited taxation.

bimmcorp on June 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM

The GOPe, in supporting amnesty, is helping to usher in single-party, authoritarian rule (or some flavor of it).

In my opinion, we are already past the point of no return in this regard. The 11 million illegal alien figure is a complete lie. The actual number is 30+ million. 70% or more of these folks will vote (D) when they are allowed to vote.

The trend is rapidly moving to a single-party system. And there are not enough politicians in Washington, that care, or aren’t paid off by special interests, to prevent it.

The fascism of the left stems from the very top, and it will only get worse.

Meople on June 8, 2014 at 2:15 PM

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