Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on June 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

House Republicans will investigate President Barack Obama’s deal to exchange five Taliban prisoners for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, Wisconsin Republican Rep. Paul Ryan promised Virginia GOP members on the eve of their state convention Friday.

“I’m part of the IRS investigation,” Ryan said at an after-dinner speech, reports Politico. “We’ve got the Benghazi investigation, the Veterans Affairs investigation, and we’re going to do an investigation about this troop transfer with the Taliban. So we’ve got a lot on our plate.”

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No one buys the White House line on this, not even the Senate. The White House says they had to do this illegal thing – skipping the obligation to inform the Senate a month ago – because the terrorists said they’d kill the hostage. That’s not a description of a post-war prisoner swap at all. It’s one or the other. Americans aren’t angry about this deal because of the way the Afghan war is ending – they are angry because they see a president willing to illegally circumvent Congress to release five bad guys and put lives at risk in an attempt to keep a campaign promise. Even Democrats in the Senate agree. Talk about a messaging breakdown.

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Rice hadn’t just fueled suspicions that the White House had oversold the Bergdahl deal — she had once again made herself part of the story and rekindled smoldering embers of resentment over her Benghazi role. Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, one of Rice’s main antagonists during the Benghazi furor last fall, has now called for her resignation, saying “I can’t believe anything she tells me.”

The media has been quick to amplify the criticism. On Wednesday, FOX News White House reporter Ed Henry described a new “credibility problem for the Administration, in which Susan Rice was again pushing a false narrative.” On MSNBC’s Morning Joe the same day, co-host Mika Brzezinski marveled, “Why would Susan Rice be sent out, Susan Rice, be sent out repeatedly to say he served honorably and really push that as one the fundamental reasons behind this swap?” And with typical nuance, FOX’s Bill O’Reilly declared Rice “a moron.”

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The former administration official said the uproar over Rice is due in part to the politicization of senior posts in government like the national security advisor that were traditionally minimally political.

“What that results in is you now have a national security advisor going on shows carrying the president’s political water,” the ex-official said. “That’s fraught with peril because usually national security officials will get a lot of latitude on national security matters but when they start to politicize it all bets are off and you open yourself up to a lot of criticism.”

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[T]he White House’s political chops in this fiasco look about as sharp as Dom DeLuise’s forehead. That’s kind of weird when you consider that his foreign-policy shop is largely run by political hacks — as Kim Strassel notes in her excellent column from yesterday. “Obama’s Kissingers,” as Strassel calls them, should be better at the politics than the foreign policy, given their resumes. But it turns out they stink at both. When you run foreign policy like a domestic political operation, it turns out that both the policy and the politics can blow up on you. I think this is because over the long haul foreign policy doesn’t work like domestic politics. You can have the best political hacks in the world, but if you give them a job they’re not suited for, it will actually make things worse. If you want to see what I mean, ask your mechanic to do your prostate surgery…

This White House went a different way. They sent Susan Rice — Susan Rice! — out on the Sunday shows to beclown herself again. This woman was going to be secretary of state until she went out on the Sunday shows and read Ben Rhodes’s talking points verbatim. Apparently that’s sort of her thing. She reads what the hacks above — or below — give her. It’s like she’s the Ron Burgundy of foreign policy. But you’d think this time around she’d go over with her staff exactly what they know — and don’t know. You’d think she’d be like Roy Scheider in Jaws 2 telling the town council, “As God is my witness, I’m not going through that Hell again.” Instead she’s like Mikey from the Life cereal commercials and the White House political hacks are like the other kids. “Give these talking points to Susie, she’ll say anything.”

And now, to cover their mistakes, these guys are complaining anonymously to Chuck Todd that Bergdahl is being “swiftboated” by his former comrades. My friend Iowahawk called this one perfectly. Seriously, what’s the point of putting the hacks in charge if they can’t even hack right?

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In fact, while the Taliban stuck to its demands (freedom for the Taliban Five), the Obama administration abandoned all of its preconditions. Originally, the State Department said it would only talk to the Taliban on three conditions: if it laid down its arms, agreed to abide by the Afghan constitution, and renounced al Qaeda. The Taliban repeatedly and openly rejected these demands, and so the State Department abandoned them. As the New York Times reported, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton “first signaled the opening for talks by recasting the administration’s longstanding preconditions” as “necessary outcomes” in 2011.

Three years later, the Taliban has still shown no willingness to agree to any of these three preconditions-turned-outcomes. And releasing the Taliban Five will not help matters…

It is easy to see why the Taliban is confident in its ability to negotiate with Washington. The group secured the release of prominent leaders in U.S. custody under the terms it demanded. There is no good reason for Americans to be similarly confident in the Obama administration’s ability to negotiate with the Taliban.

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Thursday on Fox News Channel’s “The Kelly File” Sen Marco Rubio (R-FL) told host Megyn Kelly that if the story Fox News’ James Rosen broke today that U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl had converted to Islam during his captivity and even declared himself a warrior for Islam, he was directly lied to by the White House.

Rubio said, “Let me say the substance of this report that you reported, I’ve asked questions that are specifically on point and the answers I got directly contradict or dispute what you have been reporting this evening. So clearly, if this happens to be true, we’ve got a serious problem with the Administration that’s misleading members of congress because the question i asked was on point with what you’re reporting here tonight.”…

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Some Democrats are already unhappy. “It comes to us with some surprise and dismay that the transfers went ahead with no consultation, totally not following law,” Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Tuesday.

Then, after a Wednesday briefing in which the administration tried to sell lawmakers on the wisdom of the deal, other Democrats emerged with doubts undiminished. “That did not sell me at all,” said Sen. Joe Manchin. “I still have concerns,” said Sen. Mark Pryor. And Sen. Mark Begich — like Pryor facing a tough re-election battle this year — said some of his concerns had been allayed, but “there are still some questions.”…

Having relied on the U.S. obligation to take care of its troops as an explanation for the Bergdahl case, Democrats might have a difficult time falling in line the next time if there’s no American to be saved.

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According to multiple reliable sources, on Air Force One during President Barack Obama’s recent Asia trip, he spent some time talking with his traveling press corps about his approach to foreign policy. He was defensive and, by one account, “fuming.” He felt that the criticism of his approach was unfair. He had clear ideas about how to manage America’s global interests. In his own words, they centered on a single concept: “Don’t do stupid shit.”

Announcing the red line in Syria? Definitely stupid shit; he didn’t have to say anything and shouldn’t have if he didn’t mean to follow through. Letting it be crossed 12 times before acting? Stupid shit. Announcing a plan to take moderate action and then withdrawing it afterward? Also stupid. Announcing support for Syrian moderates and not giving it in a timely or adequate fashion? Same. Entering Libya without a long-term plan and letting it fall into chaos immediately after the U.S. departure? Given all we know from every other intervention the United States has ever been involved with overseas, ditto. Overly focusing on core al Qaeda as terrorist franchises spread around the world as never before? More of same, mainly because it involved willful self-delusion and valuing a political message over the ground truth. Being so indecisive on Egypt that the United States had two policies at once — one in the State Department and one in the White House? Appointing ambassadors without the credentials to do the job only because they donated money? Taunting Russian President Vladimir Putin into action with laughable sanctions? Yes, yes, yes. In each case, not only should we have known better, but there were actually people in the administration who did know better and were ignored.

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What happens when the world’s greatest spin doctor commits malpractice — on himself?…

From the Veterans Administration scandal to the jaw-dropping events surrounding the swap of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the man with the most remarkable intuitive grasp of how to preserve and enhance his own image the world has ever seen has now tarnished it almost beyond recognition…

You can only spin for so long before you start spinning yourself. Spin and spin and spin and soon you have a whirlwind to reap.

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Debate all you want over what motivated the White House to do the Bergdahl swap. What’s beyond debate is that politics drove its rollout, and that there was nobody with enough seriousness or clout in the White House to stop it.

It was a political desire to sweep the Veterans Administration scandal off the front pages that put President Obama in the Rose Garden with Sgt. Bergdahl’s parents—when Secretary of State John Kerry, or even a press release, would have given distance. It was a political desire to claim a foreign-policy victory that saw Ms. Rice again peddling a phony story, this time about how Sgt. Bergdahl had served with “honor and distinction”—when senior officials had to know that was questionable. Who failed to warn the president that Sgt. Bergdahl’s fellow soldiers would surely speak out? Who failed to walk him through the ABCs of the statute he signed requiring Congressional notification, or warn him of the bipartisan fury his cold shoulder would inspire?

Most remarkable is that despite the endless loop of foreign-policy fiascoes, this White House seems oblivious of the need for institutional change. It has had its share of experienced hands ( Bob Gates, Leon Panetta ) come and go, but shows no evidence it learned from them. In Obama world, there is only politics. And so the world will continue to burn.

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Beckel said that the White House had to have known some of the information about how Bergdahl was a deserter and found it “so incomprehensible” that the White House held the “tone-deaf” Rose Garden ceremony with all this knowledge. He surmised they have to have “smoked a bunch of dope” to actually think this all would be a good idea.

Greg Gutfeld, however, found it amusing Beckel was so shocked at how “such a competent White House” could get stuck up in all this, but Beckel said this just “adds to their incompetence.”



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Whoop, der it is !

pambi on June 7, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Blech…

cozmo on June 7, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Psychologist, Gina loudon, said she thinks Obungle has become irrational. Tomorrow she’ll find out the IRS is after her.

crankyoldlady on June 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM

“Don’t do stupid shit”.

Wise words to the American Electorate.

Who is John Galt on June 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Blech…

cozmo on June 7, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Pretty sick of all of this, myself, regardless of it’s importance.
Need to breathe !!

pambi on June 7, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Who is John Galt on June 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Even more important, “Don’t do stupid shit” in 2016. Because you KNOW they want to.

Who is John Galt on June 7, 2014 at 8:38 PM

US Army Sgt. Bergdahl freed
17m
FBI: Family of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl have received threats following his release – @*nnbrk
Read more on www.*nn.com

canopfor on June 7, 2014 at 8:29 PM

canopfor on June 7, 2014 at 8:39 PM

MeanWhile,..back at Team Cruz:

2016 US elections
2h
Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, wins presidential preference straw poll at the Texas GOP’s state convention – @TexasTribune
Read more on texastribune.org

http://www.texastribune.org/2014/06/07/cruz-runs-away-straw-poll-gop-convention/

canopfor on June 7, 2014 at 8:31 PM

canopfor on June 7, 2014 at 8:40 PM

MeanWhile Part Deux:

2014 election for Virginia Sen. Mark Warner’s seat
5h
Former presidential adviser and lobbyist Ed Gillespie wins Virginia Republican Senate nomination – @politico, @AP
End of alert

canopfor on June 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM

canopfor on June 7, 2014 at 8:40 PM

canopfor on June 7, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Unfortunate, but not unexpected.

pambi on June 7, 2014 at 8:40 PM

“Don’t do stupid shit”.

Wise words to the American Electorate.

Who is John Galt on June 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM

“Suck it up and salute.”

Wise words to American soldiers and veterans …

ShainS on June 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM

One thing this whole Bergdahl mess accomplished for Obama is it served as a distraction to the brutal CO2 regulations that Obama unleashed on I think the same day the idiotic terrorist swap was announced. Coincidence? I don’t know, but we got to refocus a lot of attention on Obama’s econony “climate change” regulations.

anotherJoe on June 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM

This is just insane how much this guy dominates the HA threads…

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM

“Don’t do stupid shit”.

Wise words to the American Electorate.

Who is John Galt on June 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM

I’m going to leave this here…

65 million people. In round 2 no less. Mostly people who have no business deciding how America is run.

Judge_Dredd on June 7, 2014 at 8:43 PM

They sent Susan Rice — Susan Rice! — out on the Sunday shows to beclown herself again. This woman was going to be secretary of state until she went out on the Sunday shows and read Ben Rhodes’s talking points verbatim.

. . . “He shall then slaughter the goat for the sin offering for the people and take its blood behind the curtain and do with it as he did with the bull’s blood: He shall sprinkle it on the atonement cover and in front of it. In this way he will make atonement for the Most Holy Place because of the uncleanness and rebellion of the Israelites, whatever their sins have been. He is to do the same for the tent of meeting, which is among them in the midst of their uncleanness. No one is to be in the tent of meeting from the time Aaron goes in to make atonement in the Most Holy Place until he comes out, having made atonement for himself, his household and the whole community of Israel.

“Then he shall come out to the altar that is before the Lord and make atonement for it. He shall take some of the bull’s blood and some of the goat’s blood and put it on all the horns of the altar. He shall sprinkle some of the blood on it with his finger seven times to cleanse it and to consecrate it from the uncleanness of the Israelites.

“When Aaron has finished making atonement for the Most Holy Place, the tent of meeting and the altar, he shall bring forward the live goat. He is to lay both hands on the head of the live goat and confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites—all their sins—and put them on the goat’s head. He shall send the goat away into the wilderness in the care of someone appointed for the task. The goat will carry on itself all their sins to a remote place; and the man shall release it in the wilderness.

http://biblehub.com/niv/leviticus/16.htm

Axe on June 7, 2014 at 8:44 PM

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Speak for yourself cornhusker.

I have vowed to ignore topics for the duration.

cozmo on June 7, 2014 at 8:44 PM

This is just insane how much this guy dominates the HA threads…

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Bergdahl or Obama?

It was the same with all the gay marriage stuff going on. Traffic driver.

gophergirl on June 7, 2014 at 8:46 PM

gophergirl on June 7, 2014 at 8:46 PM

All of it…

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Under reported here is the insanity going on in AZ and elsewhere.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Bowe Bergdahl was held by the Haqqani terrorist network which is probably the slickest in the region. Especially since they were trained and funded by the CIA in the 80′s while they fought the ruskies.(note the ruskies are gone and we will be soon, guess who is not gone)
Fast forward a generation and their founders son(these guys have legit business they run and shake down other smaller businesses just like the Chicago mobsters do) Sirajuddin Haqqani is now the defacto leader. These guys are well funded and obviously got millions for Bergdahl and the real story is their alliance with the Talibond which allows them pretty free reign in the area. They secured this even more by giving them five big time terror types fresh out the Club Gitmo resort ready for action in a year just when we pull out what a coincidence.
Anyway Bowe and his crazy ol’ man were never the story. The story was the Haqqani terrorists suckering our side into giving them huge bucks and the big terror leaders to help out their buddies the tallybond. Oh yeah the Haqqani also have funding sources in…. you guessed it Saudi Arabia and are friendly with pakkys ISI a pretty potent group in the region.
Our side was suckerd into a deal the Haqqani never dreamed they would get. YOU can bet they are doing high fives and cutting off infidel heads wherever they can in celebration.

rodguy911 on June 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Under reported here is the insanity going on in AZ and elsewhere.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 8:48 PM

If I were a Governor – I’d put the national guard at the border and tell Obama to come and arrest me.

gophergirl on June 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Waiting for more information about the disease carrying part.

Hell, what is known should be driving people into the streets.

cozmo on June 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM

If we were a sane, freedom loving country we’d be well past impeachment stage at the time. Looks like conservatives are stuck playing chess while their opponents switched to boxing.

Rix on June 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

cozmo on June 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Damn straight!

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

gophergirl on June 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Which border?

0bama is busing them between states.

cozmo on June 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 8:48 PM

If I were a Governor – I’d put the national guard at the border and tell Obama to come and arrest me.

gophergirl on June 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM

I personally like J’s idea.

Governor Brewer of Arizona should round up every single illegal alien being dumped in her states by DHS, load them on National Guard vehicles, drive them to Washington DC, and deposit them, each and every single one, on the White House lawn…

… with a message attached to each one reading ” President Obama, this belongs to you.”

thatsafactjack on June 7, 2014 at 3:31 PM

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Which border?

0bama is busing them between states.

cozmo on June 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

First of all the main border. Stop in the influx and then send the rest back. What the hell are we going to do with all these kids?

gophergirl on June 7, 2014 at 8:54 PM

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 8:53 PM

I like it.

gophergirl on June 7, 2014 at 8:55 PM

I personally like J’s idea.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 8:53 PM

That is very confusing.

The note oughta’ read:

Here you go, you made this…mess.

cozmo on June 7, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Valerie Jarrett and Ben Rhodes need to go…along with Susan Rice, and…….

d1carter on June 7, 2014 at 8:55 PM

On MSNBC’s Morning Joe the same day, co-host Mika Brzezinski marveled, “Why would Susan Rice be sent out, Susan Rice, be sent out repeatedly to say he served honorably and really push that as one the fundamental reasons behind this swap?”

Obama has problems when even Mika won’t cover for him.

Instead she’s like Mikey from the Life cereal commercials and the White House political hacks are like the other kids. “Give these talking points to Susie, she’ll say anything.”

Great analogy. That Mikey ad was a great TV commercial.

It is easy to see why the Taliban is confident in its ability to negotiate with Washington. The group secured the release of prominent leaders in U.S. custody under the terms it demanded.

Should Boehner and other GOP leadership in the House be calling the Taliban to engage the Taliban to provide training in negotiation techniques?

BuckeyeSam on June 7, 2014 at 8:57 PM

For some reason I would rather hear about heros.

I’ll follow what happens with d!ckwad, but he isn’t ruining my world.

Justice won’t happen.

wolly4321 on June 7, 2014 at 9:00 PM

the border thing must be coordinated. Women and children from CA just showing up at the US border..I don’t think so. Mexico in the past has been a harsh environment to pass thru. So are they expediting this?

the entire thing is well timed for the RINO promise of Amnesty for all. Yes, i just read the other day that a GOP lawmaker has said August is the time.

there’s something going on here…flooding the zone..make a crisis

r keller on June 7, 2014 at 9:05 PM

r keller on June 7, 2014 at 9:05 PM

I agree with you.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:06 PM

…RATSO…???

KOOLAID2 on June 7, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Mr Chill

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:10 PM

there’s something going on here…flooding the zone..make a crisis

r keller on June 7, 2014 at 9:05 PM

…where’s the politburo press?

KOOLAID2 on June 7, 2014 at 9:11 PM

If I were a Governor – I’d put the national guard at the border and tell Obama to come and arrest me.

gophergirl on June 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM

…it’s Brewer…lost trust in her a while ago.

KOOLAID2 on June 7, 2014 at 9:13 PM

tbere’s something going on here…flooding the zone..make a crisis r keller on June 7, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Yes,, I agree.

It will get worse.

wolly4321 on June 7, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Blah blah blah. It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on June 7, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Under reported here is the insanity going on in AZ and elsewhere.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Completely ignored here actually. Breitbart is doing a good job.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:16 PM

there’s something going on here…flooding the zone..make a crisis

r keller on June 7, 2014 at 9:05 PM

A crisis that the MSM is ignoring, and most conservative websites too.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:17 PM

No-oo you got the wrong game of teacher!
Now what does the teacher say?

Judge_Dredd on June 7, 2014 at 9:18 PM

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Completely ignored here actually. Breitbart is doing a good job.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:16 PM

I know CO- been following elsewhere. Yes they are.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:18 PM

“I’m part of the IRS investigation,” Ryan said at an after-dinner speech, reports Politico. “We’ve got the Benghazi investigation, the Veterans Affairs investigation, and we’re going to do an investigation about this troop transfer with the Taliban. So we’ve got a lot on our plate.”

Great. But no “investigation” of King Admiral Emperor Barky’s illegal granting of legalization by whim to his pet illegals. No “investigation”, there, since you treasonous weasel bastids are trying to join the King Admiral Emperor in that little bit of treason.

Dirtbags. The whole lot of you. You should all be shipped out to Indonesia to spend the rest of your pathetic lives as little Jakarta street kids. Lowlifes.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 7, 2014 at 9:19 PM

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:18 PM

I would have thought that Fox would cover it, but unless I’ve missed it, they are all in for the Bengdahl story too.

But then Fox is also establishment Republican. I get nearly all my news now online.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:20 PM

No-oo you got the wrong game of teacher!
Now what does the teacher say?

Judge_Dredd on June 7, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Teacher would ask Susie T. the question.

RickB on June 7, 2014 at 9:21 PM

’It’s Brewer…lost trust in her a while ago. KOOLAID2 on June 7, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Rightly so. She’s a union hack. “education”.
She isn’t much other than that.

wolly4321 on June 7, 2014 at 9:22 PM

This is just insane how much this guy dominates the HA threads…

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM

You don’t think a President compromising national security illegally, and putting the United State’s government’s neck on the line for a deserter who caused the death of at least 14 soldiers has traffic merit?

melle1228 on June 7, 2014 at 9:22 PM

In other news, I’m beginning to think Cantor may lose on Tuesday. Brat’s clearly got momentum.

It will be EPIC if Cantor loses.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:22 PM

I get nearly all my news now online.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:20 PM

Me too…

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Have there been any more bans in the last few days?

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Teacher would ask Susie T. the question.

RickB on June 7, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Has she been around much since the “unpleasantness”?

Judge_Dredd on June 7, 2014 at 9:23 PM

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:18 PM

I would have thought that Fox would cover it, but unless I’ve missed it, they are all in for the Bengdahl story too.

But then Fox is also establishment Republican. I get nearly all my news now online.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:20 PM

Why would they cover that? The media agrees with amnesty. I think we should just frickin invade Mexico and be done with it. At least we can get some of Mexican rescources like their oil.

melle1228 on June 7, 2014 at 9:24 PM

I get nearly all my news now online.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:20 PM

Yep, so do I…

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 9:24 PM

melle1228 on June 7, 2014 at 9:22 PM

But the problem is nothing else is being covered. There are thousands and thousands of illegals flooding into AZ and CA and creating a crisis.

But if you don’t read Breitbart, it’s almost impossible to know about it, unless you live in these areas and watch or read local news.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Unclassified Document Shows In 2011 Obama Argued In Court Taliban Commander He Freed In Exchange For Bergdahl Should Not Be Released…

Resist We Much on June 7, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Dudette, that was like three whole years ago! Get with it, man …

[Heh. Excellent find, RWM]

ShainS on June 7, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Have there been any more bans in the last few days?

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Some dude..forgot his name..
never seen him before.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Has she been around much since the “unpleasantness”?

Judge_Dredd on June 7, 2014 at 9:23 PM

I haven’t seen her.

RickB on June 7, 2014 at 9:25 PM

It is easy to see why the Taliban is confident in its ability to negotiate with Washington. The group secured the release of prominent leaders in U.S. custody under the terms it demanded.

Should Boehner and other GOP leadership in the House be calling the Taliban to engage the Taliban to provide training in negotiation techniques?

BuckeyeSam on June 7, 2014 at 8:57 PM
……………….
The Haqqani network is different from the Taliban. The Haqqanis are more money oriented and less ideological than the talibong. So they probably got some serious cash out of the deal.
They will of course take credit for getting the five big time terror types into Qatar and use it for further leverage with the Taliban since all these groups will eat each other if left alone. Each one need leverage with the other. Its a dog eat terrorist type of existence over there.

rodguy911 on June 7, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Whoah, man…! That Judge Jeanine (sp?) sure is a firecracker. Any of y’all see her opening remarks salvo tonight?

anuts on June 7, 2014 at 9:25 PM

I get nearly all my news now online.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:20 PM

I haven’t watched TV news in years. I stopped watching Fox a couple of years ago … maybe three … spent a little time looking for something else (Fox Business, Bloomberg, …) and then just gave up.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 7, 2014 at 9:26 PM

All branches of modem science, of true and disinterested science, concur in proclaiming this grand truth, fundamental and decisive: The social world, properly speaking, the human world – in short, humanity – is nothing other than the last and supreme development – at least on our planet and as far as we know – the highest manifestation of animality.

A reader might trip over “anmality” today, but Bakunin doesn’t mean anything more by “the highest manifestation of animality” than “the highest form of material life.” And since he believes all life is “material,” even “material life” can be shortened to unspecialized “life.”

His choice of words isn’t the interesting bit. What he has to say about us, we the highest form of life — at least on our planet and as far as we know — is the interesting bit.

He begins his list of synonyms for what he is calling “the highest manifestation of animality” with “the social world.” He equates “the human world” and “humanity” to that. When he is writing about humanity, he is not writing of some class of beings taken together because of a set of common traits that allow them to be classified together. He is writing about one thing, one entity, the “social world.”

Again, according to Bakunin: human beings are not the highest form of life. Human society is the highest form of life.

(Bakunin, God and the State, 1871)

Axe on June 7, 2014 at 9:26 PM

Some dude..forgot his name..
never seen him before.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:25 PM

What did he do for the hammer to fall?

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Hi Omaha.

crankyoldlady on June 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM

But if you don’t read Breitbart, it’s almost impossible to know about it, unless you live in these areas and watch or read local news.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Drudge has been on top of it.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 7, 2014 at 9:28 PM

Have there been any more bans in the last few days?

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Good question.

The commenter JFKY is arguing in this headline thread that Thomas Jefferson was NOT a Founding Father.

I wouldn’t ban him for stupidity though …

ShainS on June 7, 2014 at 9:28 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 7, 2014 at 9:26 PM

I do like Megyn and Greta, but that’s about it on Fox now. Used to watch it a lot more than I do. And of course other ‘news’ channels are a joke.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:28 PM

Illegals are bringing in diseases? This has been going on for years.

crankyoldlady on June 7, 2014 at 9:28 PM

But the problem is nothing else is being covered. There are thousands and thousands of illegals flooding into AZ and CA and creating a crisis.

But if you don’t read Breitbart, it’s almost impossible to know about it, unless you live in these areas and watch or read local news.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:24 PM

How long have you been reading Hot Air. Hot Air has always had one track when it comes to coverage. It is what it is..

The Bergdahl thing might have some teeth against the Obama administration. The illegal alien thing, not so much when even the “opposition” party is a sucker for an illegal and the “humanity of amnesty.”

melle1228 on June 7, 2014 at 9:28 PM

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:25 PM

What did he do for the hammer to fall?

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Made a veiled threat of psychical violence.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:29 PM

Hi Omaha.

crankyoldlady on June 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Hey Lady…

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 9:29 PM

This White House went a different way. They sent Susan Rice — Susan Rice! — out on the Sunday shows to beclown herself again. This woman was going to be secretary of state until she went out on the Sunday shows and read Ben Rhodes’s talking points verbatim.
Apparently that’s sort of her thing.

Apparently it’s been sort of her thing for a long time:

Rice’s actions in the wake of two terrorist attacks against American interests in 1998 are highly noteworthy. In the spring of that year, the U.S. ambassador to Kenya, Prudence Bushnell, sent an urgent letter to Secretary of State Madeleine Albright begging for additional security at the embassy, in light of growing terrorist threats and a warning that she (Bushnell) herself was the target of an assassination plot. The State Department denied this request, as well as a number of previous ones, on grounds that beefed-up security measures would be too costly. A few months later, on August 7, 1998, Islamic terrorists simultaneously blew up the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania with car bombs, killing more than 200 people.
Within 24 hours, Rice appeared on PBS as a Clinton administration spokesperson and falsely claimed that the administration had “maintain[ed] a high degree of security at all of our embassies at all times.” In addition, she stated that there had been “no telephone warning or call of any sort like that, that might have alerted either embassy just prior to the blast.”

Yeah, she’s a real piece of work:

In 1996 Rice helped persuade President Clinton to rebuff Sudan’s offer to turn Osama bin Laden, who was then living there, over to U.S. authorities. Rice reasoned that because Sudan had a poor human-rights record, the U.S. should have no dealings with that nation’s government — not even to obtain custody of the al Qaeda leader or to receive intelligence information on terrorists from Sudanese authorities. She viewed such intelligence as inherently untrustworthy. Bin Laden subsequently moved his terrorist operations to Afghanistan, from where he would mastermind the 9/11 attacks.

mrt721 on June 7, 2014 at 9:29 PM

bazil9

on June 7, 2014 at 9:01 PM

I’m fired up like you are B9. We have money to advertise illegal children to come up here, allow them to free load, and pay for legal fees, but not give our vets the healthcare they need. Strange how they come up with money for things they want, when they want it. All I can say is, this admin. has “the goods” on every politician to blackmail them into complying with their agenda. The politicians in place right now dems or pubs are either descendants or recipients of the fruits of the labor, of the generation we just honored yesterday. How they could turn their backs on them and hand this country over to the thug…AAAHHHHHHG! I really don’t want to fall into hopelessness, because that’s what they want…but it so dang hard.

31giddyup on June 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 7, 2014 at 9:28 PM

Yeah Drudge is really good at covering a lot of stories, but some times you really have to hunt through all his links to find them.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Made a veiled threat of psychical violence.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:29 PM

I remember.. He said that we were all POS for making assumptions about Bergdahl, and if we were in person he would “beat our azz” or something ( I am paraphrasing in my own words, but that was the jist, right?)

melle1228 on June 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM

ShainS on June 7, 2014 at 9:28 PM

davidk is an HA treasure, I tell ya.

pambi on June 7, 2014 at 9:31 PM

Whoah, man…! That Judge Jeanine (sp?) sure is a firecracker. Any of y’all see her opening remarks salvo tonight?

anuts on June 7, 2014 at 9:25 PM

I forget to watch her every week. They used to run it again on Sunday but they don’t do that anymore.

crankyoldlady on June 7, 2014 at 9:32 PM

31giddyup on June 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM

I hear you Rhonda.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:32 PM

I do like Megyn and Greta, but that’s about it on Fox now. Used to watch it a lot more than I do. And of course other ‘news’ channels are a joke.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:28 PM

I never really liked Megyn. Sure, she’s cute and all but her opinions used to annoy me. Greta was hit and miss. It depended on who her guest was – as Greata agreed with whatever woman she was focusing on, no matter the politics. Greta WAS the only person adequately covering the Honduras situation – fully – but she was brushed aside and nothing ever came of any of that, as insane, stupid and pathetic as it all was.

When Beck left Fox I had little reason to watch anything on the network. That is pretty much when I left.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 7, 2014 at 9:33 PM

davidk is an HA treasure, I tell ya.

pambi on June 7, 2014 at 9:31 PM

Agreed …

ShainS on June 7, 2014 at 9:33 PM

melle1228 on June 7, 2014 at 9:28 PM

I’ve lurked here for quite awhile, but only started posting recently.

And yes even most Rs want amnesty, but regardless,the crisis of thousands of illegals coming in to the country should be a MAJOR story everywhere.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:33 PM

I opened my local Lawton OK newspaper this morning and was faced with this headline: Officials (in OK) object to housing youths at Ft Sill.

Rep Cole Sen Inhofe and Gov Fallin are upset that Ft Sill is being asked to house and care for 600 and up to 1200 ILLEGAL children at the army base starting June 10th. This admin FAILED to notify about its plan to use our Mil. facilities to house these ILLEGAL children.

Cole called this approach “de facto amnesty”.

Another interesting piece to go along with this:
Americorps to provide LEGAL aid to these ILLEGALS!!

Atty Gen Holder has created a new arm of Americorps called ‘Justice Americorps’ and has enlisted the help of hundreds of lawyers and paralegals to assist these ILLEGALS once they arrive here. Holder said, and I quote, ” This new program represents a historic step to strengthen our justice system and protect the rights of the most vunerable members of OUR society.”

These ILLEGALS are NOT memebers of our society!!

The govt estimates that 60k to 90k CHILDREN TRAVELING ALONE could be apprehended at the US-Mexican border this year alone.

How is this happening you may ask?

The SA govts of various countries are running PSA’s on their local tvs, informing people that the US border is open and to send their kids, who will be housed and fed, and then they can follow on later once the kids are settled. Glenn Beck talked about this yesterday.

Wolly has been commenting on what has been happening down in TX and AZ, now it is drifting upwards, to here also.

WTF can we, anyone do about this INVASION!!

I guess it may come down to our southern states individually closing our state borders…

This is INSANITY!!

Scrumpy on June 7, 2014 at 9:33 PM

I never really liked Megyn. Sure, she’s cute and all but her opinions used to annoy me. Greta was hit and miss. It depended on who her guest was – as Greata agreed with whatever woman she was focusing on, no matter the politics. Greta WAS the only person adequately covering the Honduras situation – fully – but she was brushed aside and nothing ever came of any of that, as insane, stupid and pathetic as it all was.

When Beck left Fox I had little reason to watch anything on the network. That is pretty much when I left.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 7, 2014 at 9:33 PM

I think both Megyn and Greta are hit or miss. Beck has also become hit or miss. It gets on tangents, and I just have to turn him off. I like some of the radio personalities that don’t have an in in television, like Wilkow.

melle1228 on June 7, 2014 at 9:35 PM

melle1228 on June 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM

here is it-

I know it’s easy fighting the war from a keyboard but until this soldiers’ story is fully heard oiut I think you should shut your mouth.
if you w4ere standing in front of me I might have to shut you up the old fashioned way.
RockRib on June 2, 2014 at 9:17 AM

Take your own advice keyboard tough guy. FO

bazil9 on June 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:35 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 7, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Greta has covered stories that no one else does at times. I think both she and Megyn are good interviewers. But as I’ve said before, Fox is very establishment R, so I’ve really cut back on how much I watch there.

I can’t wait to watch it on Wednesday though if Cantor is defeated. :)

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:35 PM

I’ve lurked here for quite awhile, but only started posting recently.

And yes even most Rs want amnesty, but regardless,the crisis of thousands of illegals coming in to the country should be a MAJOR story everywhere.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:33 PM

I agree, but we are talking about Hot Air- the website know for giving gay marriage (SQUIRREL) and Sarah “probably never running again’ Palin too much play all for click bait.

melle1228 on June 7, 2014 at 9:36 PM

What people seem to miss is that incompetence, ineptitude, and stupidity tend to be self exponentiating when a complete incometent, inept, idiot is at the helm trying desperately to buff an image politically that is fictitious at the very best, treasonous at the worst.

This is also what you get when SOME in the media tell obama’s life story in 2007/8, full of communism, socialism, islamist CRAP, and general anti-American beliefs and sentiment, and not a soul on the left takes it into consideration, voting for the islamic racist simply because he’s black and they feel a tad guilty.

To hell with them all. We’re about 1/2″ away from the left once again begging the right to fix the problems so they can go about attacking the country all over again from a different angle. I say, let it all burn. When we rise from the ashes to rebuild, let’s make sure that liberals, socialists, and progressives make up a good chunk of those ashes.

Diluculo on June 7, 2014 at 9:36 PM

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Yep, I told him to come find me.. That I would be standing behind my soldier husband. I talk a big game behind him. :)

melle1228 on June 7, 2014 at 9:37 PM

Ratsoo!

Calling all Rude buffoons, trolls, wenches, and loons!

Why now?

Cause Omaha’s getting slack.

Doc Holliday on June 7, 2014 at 9:38 PM

we are finally getting the government we deserve, and we are getting it good and hard.

we complain on these boards, but the truth is words mean nothing.

Obama will do exactly what he wants and nobody will stop him. Get used to it.

Today’s fat, meek, lazy Americans prefer slavery to freedom.

Exninja on June 7, 2014 at 9:38 PM

Under reported here is the insanity going on in AZ and elsewhere.

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 8:48 PM

HA is no different than the MSM. It “embargos” news that doesn’t support its views. HA authors are overwhelmingly pro-amnesty pro- comprehensive immigration reform.

bw222 on June 7, 2014 at 9:38 PM

In other news, I’m beginning to think Cantor may lose on Tuesday. Brat’s clearly got momentum.

It will be EPIC if Cantor loses.

cat_owner on June 7, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Wouldn’t that be sumpin’?? Cantor and his boys are playing real dirty and ticking the Tea Party off ..kinda like what was happening in Mississippi with the Cochran people vs McDaniel. In VA 7th district it’s all about amnesty and Cantor has been disingenuous to say the least about what he’ll do this summer with it. I hope it’s Brat for the win by a point or two.

gracie on June 7, 2014 at 9:38 PM

melle1228 on June 7, 2014 at 9:37 PM

=)

bazil9 on June 7, 2014 at 9:38 PM

Cause Omaha’s getting slack.

Doc Holliday on June 7, 2014 at 9:38 PM

I’m a little under the weather today…

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2014 at 9:40 PM

This is for ME!!!!

Peeps who know me in real life will understand!!!!

ladyingray on June 7, 2014 at 9:40 PM

I forget to watch her every week. They used to run it again on Sunday but they don’t do that anymore.

crankyoldlady on June 7, 2014 at 9:32 PM

she might be on again later tinite.

gracie on June 7, 2014 at 9:40 PM

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